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Philosophy of sex

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What are some of the most interesting philosophical views on sexuality in your opinion? Also share interesting anecdotes.

>Kant died virgin, and believed sex was immoral, for it being the act of two people using each other
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>>10000437
unironically zizek on sexual phantasy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtWJVcOPz7M
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Sex is good.
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>>10000437
Sex is weird. I do it but I don't really like it. I'd rather sit in a chair and pace my breaths.
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Michel Foucault

Inb4 Petersonians asking me to sort myself out
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>>10000510
Are you a man or a woman?
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The Christian view on sex is the most interesting, true, and good for your soul.
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>>10000515
Man
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>>10000521
>we have to control everything and everyone, how do we control this part of it?
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Should be embraced. Not like a total degenerate but you shouldn't hold off on some cutie teen just because you aren't married.

Life's to short to not please humanly pleasures.
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>>10000000
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>>10000533
Kill yourself
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>>10000528

>freedom means being ruled by your passions
>self-discipline is oppression
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Kant was a great example of IYI (Intellectual Yet Idiot)
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>>10000561
it isn't self discipline if you're doing it because your concept of a higher entity forbids you
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>>10000561
yeah that's what christian leadership has always said right, 'have self discipline, its your choice to be free'
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>>10000450
>those fucking crowd shots showing their reactions

kek do they even understand what he's saying?
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>>10000566

it is because you want to please the higher entity and understand that his rules are good for you.
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>>10000581
hahahah fuck off, it's because you don't want to go to hell. that's your concept of 'understanding that his rules are good for you'
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>>10000587

> it's because you don't want to go to hell. that's your concept of 'understanding that his rules are good for you'
you have it backwards.

we don't live virtuously in order to be saved, we live virtuously because we are being saved. Salvation is by faith and good deeds are an expression of faith. If you love God you want to keep his commandments. The bible says we are made in his image so we should live with dignity and follow his example.

But some may have your understanding, the novices, yet even they are engaging in self-discipline, just like someone decides not to smoke because he wants to avoid getting cancer.
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>>10000615
keep fooling yourself if you want but it's the age old question. Do people follow the law because they don't want to get caught or do they follow the law because they're good people?
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>>10000627

>do people sometimes do good stuff?

the question is too vague, different people operate on different levels; rather you should question your own motivations and goals.
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>>10000635
no you're just denying the obvious. it is precisely because it is a law in the first place that people do not commit crimes, the act would be commonplace if it were not forbidden by a perceived higher order with attached consequences. this is analogous to the concept of sin wherein it is avoided out of perceived consequences enacted by a higher order or it is avoided in order to maintain the status quo and is often masked by the concept of self virtue
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>>10000437
>the most interesting philosophical views on sexuality in your opinion?
>Also share interesting anecdotes

lmao

this is like asking a beggar what he thinks about foie gras
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>>10000651
further, this mask is employed as a defence mechanism to cover up the underlying egoism of the self
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>>10000661
anecdotes about philosphers.
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>>10000437
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>>10000651

are you saying that the only reason people don't rape or torture each other is because they're illegal? Not because they might actually have a personal aversion and moral repulsion to those practices?
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>>10000688
what exactly do you think it was like before we had laws?
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>>10000651
>>10000662
>how much nonsense can i fit into one post
>oh, not nearly enough
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>>10000521
This desu
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>>10000696
if you had a point you would make it
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>>10000615
If you wanted to keep God's commandments you'd be following all of them, the entirety of the old Testament laws, to the letter. If you wanted to be a Christian you would love neighbour as you love thyself, and love your neighbours as the disciples loved jesus. Promiscuity is not denounced by jesus, nor is premarital sex, and as long as you're keeping yourself clean and healthy, there's no reason to think the Christian, by which I assume you mean puritanical, view on sex is useful

>>10000521
>interesting
>dude never have sex unless you marry early and then have a shit marriage since you were guided by your loins, or marry late and waste the best parts of your life not enjoying yourself and learning about your body

>true
How is it true?

>good for your soul
It's easy to be good for something that doesn't exist
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>>10000802
>implying the purpose of life is to enjoy yourself
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>>10000810
I didn't say that, but the enjoyment of you get from sex will enhance other parts of your life, thanks to the exercise, stress release, bonding and self-improvement in general. It's a good thing and to not do it is a terrible idea

Nice non-response though
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>>10000712
>it is precisely because it is a law in the first place that people do not commit crimes, the act would be commonplace if it were not forbidden by a perceived higher order with attached consequences

You say crimes would be "commonplace" without the law, which suggests you believe crimes can exist without a legal system. Fine.

But what crimes exactly would be commonplace, and who would be guilty of them? Everyone? A minority of people? A majority?
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>>10000528
>managing the wild and dangerous human sexuality by channelling it through pure love and devotion to another is bad.
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>>10000802
>Promiscuity is not denounced by jesus, nor is premarital sex

Jesus is even stricter when he says that if you look upon a woman with lust you commit adultery.
He also restates the command from the beginning about a man leaving his father and mother and clinging to his wife to become one flesh. He also makes divorce harder.

Also Christianity doesn't just function of Jesus' quotes alone, not sure why you even tried this angle since you are a disbeliever. Paul and the apostles and the Old Testament speaks of the dangers of promiscuity, fornication and adultery...

>If you wanted to keep God's commandments you'd be following all of them, the entirety of the old Testament laws

We are to keep the timeless moral law, which is summed up by the golden rule, the 10 commandments, etc.
The ceremonial/sacrificial/dietary laws have been fulfilled, Jesus was their fulfillment. They were all preludes to the real sacrifice anyway.

>if you aren't a promiscuous degenerate you will either marry too early or too late!!! go have sex asap!!

nice false dichotomy, who taught you this stuff, MTV?

>soul doesn't exist

if you believe this then you're not really conscious but still asleep.
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>>10000837
And adultery is only against the law based on the tenets of the OT.
And the making divorce harder and describing marriage as making one flesh from two is fine, and I agree with them, but marriage requires finding the right person, not just the closest person in your little Jewish village so you can make more Jewish babies as the ot was built around. And no premarital sex is a barrier to finding that right person
Jesus is the only one who's always correct, everybody else's teachings are largely opinions and culturally influenced.

>muh ceremonial/sacrificial/dietary laws
Fuck off aquinas you can't pick and choose which laws you want to follow, they come as one

Degenerate is just a useless buzzword for "things I don't like", but yes, that is what will happen at far higher rates. Your sex life will suffer for it if you marry too late, and your marriage will suffer if you marry too early.

>everyone who isn't #redpilled like me and doesn't believe in nonsensical concepts without evidence isn't #woke #realchristcuckhours
Not an argument
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>>10000437
probably bataille, yah
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>>10000874
what he says?
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>>10000694
That people who had penchant to do bad things did bad things more often. It does nothing to prove that there did not exist people who wished to live in an upright manner, and that people only chose to live uprightly in response to some form of law. People organized themselves in mutually beneficial (see: non-malicious) communities long before written law or nation or government was developed to prescribe them not to.
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>>10000865
>promiscuity is okay, trust me....

Firstly, why are you ignoring the verse where Jesus says any man who looks upon a woman with lust is committing adultery? How can someone go around being promiscuous/fornicating without lusting after the women he fancies? You aren't making sense.

Secondly, after Jesus tightened the rules on divorce his apostles were worried and asked why even marry if it's so risky? And Jesus replied not everyone can accept such a ruling and reminded the apostles that some make themselves eunuchs (celibate) for the sake of heaven and some are made eunuchs (celibate) by circumstance. So if strict divorce rules makes marriage seem risky Jesus' alternative wasn't "just be promiscuous instead" his alternative was "become eunuchs/celibate".

>And the making divorce harder and describing marriage as making one flesh from two is fine, and I agree with them

Jesus says [porneias] fornication or any kind of sexual immorality (i.e pre-marital sex) gives the man grounds for divorcing his wife. Matthew 5:32, and that a divorced woman who remarries is committing adultery. Why would Jesus not allow remarriage, but allow women to be promiscuous? Again I don't think you've read the scriptures carefully about this topic.

And why are you saying we should also follow the OT laws, and then turn around and make an exception for fornication/promiscuity which is unambiguously forbidden in the OT and NT? And then you say the apostles who quoted Jesus shouldn't be taken seriously, that they are culturally influenced, but when they quote Jesus' they are correct and trustworthy. You aren't making any sense.

>Degenerate is just a useless buzzword for "things I don't like", but yes, that is what will happen at far higher rates.

Degenerate is a word that signifies man or woman's literal degeneration as a person, instead of aspiring to higher virtues and self-discipline he or she becomes a slave to passions, lusts, gluttony, egoism, greed, and all manner of vile affections. They start small and gradually become worse and worse.

>Your sex life will suffer for it if you marry too late, and your marriage will suffer if you marry too early.

No such thing as marrying too late or too early, except in terms of biological programming/mental maturity. Having pre-marital sex does not benefit you except to satisfy lusts.
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>>10000651
t. Leviathan
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>>10000437
>What are some of the most interesting philosophical views on sexuality in your opinion?

Here is what is interesting to me: the theory that sex drives absolutely everything we do.
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>>10000934
I didn't ignore that verse, I addressed it and how it's not relevant unless you maintain all the ot laws.
That seems like a factual observation rather than a recommendation, might be my translation though

How do you know "sexual immorality" means pre-marital sex? And extra-marital sex was grounds for divorce and worse anyway
Again, adultery is only significant if you maintain the rules of the ot

Your reading comprehension is terrible, I said if you want to take a puritanical view of sex that's supported by the ot, you have to take all the ot laws. If you want to be like christ you have to follow what christ says

>higher virtues
Nice spook. It's entirely possible to have self discipline and pursue pleasure without having to escalate it. That may be difficult to consider since Christianity is a book of guides for weak minded people, but it can and does happen.

If you marry before you have sexual experience and can know if you're sexually compatible, then you've married too early. If you've abstained from sex and wasted time you could have spent having sex, getting to know your body and what you like and getting to know what women like, then you've married too late. And pre-marital sex has the aforementioned benefits.
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>>10000521

I want to fuck that girl.
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>>10000521

Which Christian view? There isn't one singular viewpoint, many Christians interpret sex in different ways.
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>>10000963
>I addressed it and how it's not relevant unless you maintain all the ot laws.

Initially you said only what Jesus says matters and is correct and he never outlawed promiscuity/fornication so its okay to do it; but if we want to accept the "puritanical view of sex" then we have to accept all the hebrew laws of the OT.

Now you're saying if you want to accept even what Jesus says then you have to also accept all the OT??

I don't get it.

>How do you know "sexual immorality" means pre-marital sex?

The best translations are fornication (which means pre-marital sex) and general sexual immorality which could include fornication and adultery and other acts...either way fornication falls under the sexual immorality umbrella that would be familiar to israelites and Jesus' audience.

>Nice spooks
>virtues are spooks, chastity is harmful
>christianity is for weak minded people

neat insults.


>If you've abstained from sex and wasted time you could have spent having sex, getting to know your body and what you like and getting to know what women like, then you've married too late.

sexual compatibility is created by caring and patient people.
you learn your body with your wife, not with random strangers.

Jesus said if marriage is too hard for you be a eunuch.
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>>10000998

>what Christian view

That Catholic-Orthodox view, is essentially the same for 1.5 billion Christians.
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>>10001025

what i mean is even if individuals differ, their churches teach essentially the same thing
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>>10000437
Fucking Kant ruined sex for me. Whenever I'm fucking just before I finish I think of the categorical imperative. Everytime without fail it makes me feel terrible for doing this to some poor girl. Even though we're both just looking to have some fun. I feel awful at using them as a means to an end even if they're doing the same to me.

I want to get off this ride.
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>>10000557
why
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I always found it illogical to say that sexual interest have no bearing on the actual personality of a person. I don't think I could ever respect a woman who acts chaste and respectable normally but gets rammed up the ass in bed and likes to be choked or whatever.
Something about that idea really irks me. It's just disgusting.
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>>10001180
why praise logic?
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>>10001019
Your reading comprehension is getting worse with each post, I'm going to ignore your first bit of whitetext and if you actually read my posts you'll realise what you think I've said entirely contradicts what I've actually said ITT

I'd like some additional verses used in the same way to confirm the best translation is premarital sex, ideally. And if jesus was privy to the infinite knowledge of God, his preaching should be just as familiar to us now as it was to his audience at the time, tbqh.

Virtue is a spook, quite obviously. I didn't say chastity is harmful, but if you don't plan on being celibate for the entirety of your life, it can be
Christianity is very much a doctrine for (among other things) the avoidance of weak minded people who can't think for themselves making themselves useless to those in power. That's not a bad thing or an insult, it's am observation and Tbf it's a good and useful thing.


Not really some people just have different libidos and are just incompatible, and you often can't fix those differences, especially different libidos. And that will cause long term resentment in the marriage

No, jesus observed that the people who don't want to get married can be celibate
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>>10000000
get
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>>10000437
humanae vitae
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>>10001180
You're being irrational

>>10001199
>e-everybody else is praising something, I'm not the only one who needs to prostrate myself before am external entity, right guys,
goaway
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>>10001459
lol i guess praise was the wrong word, why hold logic in such high esteem would be a better way to articulate my thoughts. why do you do such a greentext where you assume so much about what i meant with that question?
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>>10001491
Because it's quite a common argument for christcucks to turn around and say unbelievers worship logic, or science
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>>10000802
t. Reddit Christian
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i feel like we should fuck whenever we want to and recent media has overhyped the wrondoings of rapist
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>>10000437
Kant was like me. I refuse to have sex with anyone ever again, and my life became much better after I came to this decision.
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>>10001051
Seems like a mutually beneficial arrangement, there's not any reason to feel bad

>>10001501
Nice argument
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>>10001674
> mutually beneficial arrangement

mutually detrimental
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>>10000437
Just read Freud. After that you won't be able to take any other ''theory'' of sexuality seriously.
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>>10001692
>Just read Freud. After that you won't be able to take any other ''theory'' of sexuality seriously.
Including Freud's
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>>10001692
I remember reading Freud at age 13 and using him as justification for fapping to mother incest fantasies.
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>>10001722
Smart kid.
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>>10001712
I know you meant it as an insult but it's not untrue. Freud himself was not analysed and thus fell into the same traps at times that he so cleverly pointed out in others. A well-read student of psychoanalysis will learn to question certain aspects of Freud's theory, such as not having included the Electra complex after coining Oedipus, as telling of his own unresolved complexities.

>>10001722
Interesting, I stopped relying on my oedipal fantasies after reading him and being an analysand.
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>>10001658
why? and why is it better? are you sure?
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>>10001688
detrimental?
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>>10000651
it is precisely because it is a law in the first place that people do not commit crimes

People create the law in the first place because they come to understand that certain behavior is wrong.
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>tfw it's too late for me to ever get laid
>Good looking, /fit/, intelligent
>Horrible personality
What do , /lit/?
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>>10002101
Stop being autistic and understand people

And, I'll determine what's /fit/, post body
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>>10002009
You know your nonsense doesn't become any more valid the more you post it.
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>>10002124
>Post lewds
Nah, I'll post by weights instead
190 squat
280 deadlift
175 bench press

Well defined abs, about a 12:20 two mile. 5'11 175. Still skelly but you get the picture.

Anyways, I'm autistic af plz help
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>>10002150
>280 deadlift
*260
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>>10002150
>Good looking, /fit/, intelligent
>Anyways, I'm autistic af plz help

Feign a bit of modesty every now and then, huh?
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>>10002150
>5'11
Sorry bro, you'll never make it
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>>10002168
B-b-but I was promised we were all gonna make it
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>>10002166
>modesty
Just being honest.
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>>10000581

>it is because you want to please the higher entity and understand that his rules are good for you.

So you're basically just a sub in a chastity belt. That's way more degenerate than just banging some cute woman.
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>>10002193
Anon, these terms and practices you're describing only have any appeal because they are a perverted image of man's proper relationship to God.
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>>10002176
Only those of us who were gifted with non-childlike statues are going to make it. You have a good chance of making if you turn to pedophilia though
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>>10000802
>>10000837
>>10000865
>>10000934
>>10000963

> derailing the thread with arguments about a shitty religion

Plz leave
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>>10000680
What was his opinion though? Apart from the entry about waiting until an appropriate age I cannot recall much else. Other Stoics have said more, but maybe my translation of the Meditations was shit and excluded some allusions.
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I have this really fucked up guilt complex about sex, casual or otherwise, because it always feels so selfish. Sounds like Kant is right up my alley here. In what work are his sexual ethics explicated?
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It can only be moral if 1) It's between consenting adults and 2) Does not lead to procreation. Come at me natalists.
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>>10004524
Why don't you try reading something that will help you get over this stupid, neurotic and ideological gripe instead of intensifying it, anon? Kantian ethics are notoriously autistic, don't fall into that meme.
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>>10004524

Just read Groundworks of the Metaphysic of Morals, it can be derived from that.

Only do Critique of Practical Reason if you're willing to spend hundreds of hours in extreme tedium. Kant is the biggest chore to read.
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Evola attained vast spiritual power through tantric orgies with hot aryan babes
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I believe in one eternal marriage. I believe in not having casual sex and exposing yourself to disease, heartache, and selfish abuse. I know it is tempting while you are young and I myself lapsed when I was younger but premarital (and extramarital) sex is absolutely degenerate and morally wrong from an objective standpoint.

I would suggest the catechism of the catholic church and eros and the mysteries of love.
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>>10000510
Agree, though I only really enjoy it if I'm in love
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>>10004589
i enjoy it but not for all the trouble you have to go through
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>>10000651
ur pathetic
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>>10000450
slavboy says a whole lot of nothing in this one, desu
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>>10004545
Because then I would have to admit that my sexual guilt was unfounded which quickly shoots me into a rabbit hole of unfounded neuroses and self-punishing behaviors that I'm not ready to deal with.

>>10004555
Thanks.
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>>10003628
The Christian worldview of sex, particularly the puritanical view, is pernicious and influences a huge number of people. For example, this poor sod
>>10004584
Who thinks pre-marital sex is absolutely degenerate and morally wrong from an objective standpoint, yet would be hard pressed to substantiate such.

So, simply by the virtue of the numbers who believe it, it must be addressed

>>10000510
Are you circumcised?
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Modern dating/sexual behavior is laughably neurotic and damaging so I don't see any big issues with the old school way. In many cases it's actually preferable.
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>>10000450
YOOOOOOO

this is the first time i've seen someone actually address any of this, let alone the freud and his thought on child sexuality

and actually this helps explain something


"oh so donald is a racist? HILLARY IS A PEDOPHILE"
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>>10004524
It is selfish
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>>10004667
have you had sex before
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>>10004514
he said that you must remember that sex is basically just exchanging fluids and not much more, that things are really simple, but we give them unnecessary meaning. stoicism 101. what else did you think he said
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>>10004713
This this THIS. One of my guy friends (who I once hooked up with; thought I was bi, turns out I'm not) asked me a good 20 times over and over again to let him suck my dick because he's so frustrated because his gf is out of town. Eventually I let him do it and I swear it was the most boring experience of my life. Then I sucked him to be polite, it was also boring. Honestly I wish I was born in a different century.
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>>10005081
lol yep, its almost sad seeing what people reduce themselves to just to get a nut off.
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>>10005081
gay
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>>10000450
The way this guy does his hands and face when he talks is fascinating and horrifying.
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>>10000437
Did he believe that sex in general was immoral, or did he believe sex without the intent of procreation was immoral?

These are the tells pseuds can't spot in their thoughts
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>>10004713
this desu
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One of the reasons Schopenhauer is GOAT is that he was one of the first western philosophers to treat sexuality seriously. From his On the Metaphysics of Love:

>Every kind of love, however ethereal it may seem to be, springs entirely from the instinct of sex; indeed,it is absolutely this instinct, only in a more definite, specialised, and perhaps, strictly speaking, more individualised form. If, bearing this in mind, one considers the important rôle which love plays in all its phases
and degrees, not only in dramas and novels, but also in the real world, where next to one’s love of life it
shows itself as the strongest and most active of all motives; if one considers that it constantly occupies half
the capacities and thoughts of the younger part of humanity, and is the final goal of almost every human
effort; that it influences adversely the most important affairs; that it hourly disturbs the most earnest occupations;
that it sometimes deranges even the greatest intellects for a time; that it is not afraid of interrupting
the transactions of statesmen or the investigations of men of learning; that it knows how to leave
its love-letters and locks of hair in ministerial portfolios and philosophical manuscripts; that it knows
equally well how to plan the most complicated and wicked affairs, to dissolve the most important relations,
to break the strongest ties; that life, health, riches, rank, and happiness are sometimes sacrificed for its
sake; that it makes the otherwise honest, perfidious, and a man who has been hitherto faithful a betrayer,
and, altogether, appears as a hostile demon whose object is to overthrow, confuse, and upset everything
it comes across: if all this is taken into consideration one will have reason to ask—“Why is there all this
noise? Why all this crowding, blustering, anguish, and want? Why should such a trifle play so important a
part and create disturbance and confusion in the well-regulated life of mankind?”
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>>10005865
Apologies for the shitty formatting.
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>>10005643
cocaine
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>>10005865
Any more of this?
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>>10006026
Here are a few more excepts and a link to the text. It amazes me that he even discusses such VERBOTEN topics such as body dysmorphia and pederasty

Link: http://misterjung.com/love/schopenhauer.pdf

>Accordingly, every one in the first place will infinitely prefer and ardently desire those who are most
beautiful—in other words, those in whom the character of the species is most purely defined; and in the
second, every one will desire in the other individual those perfections which he himself lacks, and he
will consider imperfections, which are the reverse of his own, beautiful. This is why little men prefer big
women, and fair people like dark, and so on. The ecstasy with which a man is filled at the sight of a beautiful
woman, making him imagine that union with her will be the greatest happiness, is simply the sense of
the species. The preservation of the type of the species rests on this distinct preference for beauty, and this
is why beauty has such power.


>The great preponderance of brain in man accounts for his having fewer instincts than the lower order of
animals, and for even these few easily being led astray. For instance, the sense of beauty which instinctively
guides a man in his selection of a mate is misguided when it degenerates into the proneness to pederasty.
Similarly, the blue-bottle (Musca vomitoria), which instinctively ought to place its eggs in putrified flesh,
lays them in the blossom of the Arum dracunculus, because it is misled by the decaying odour of this plant.
That an absolutely generic instinct is the foundation of all love of sex may be confirmed by a closer analysis
of the subject—an analysis which can hardly be avoided

>Finally, every man tries to find the corrective of his own defects and aberrations in the particular parts of his body, and the more conspicuous the defect is the greater is his determination to correct it. This is why snub-nosed persons find an aquiline nose or a parrot-like face so indescribably pleasing; and the same
thing applies to every other part of the body. Men of immoderately long and attenuated build delight in
a stunted and short figure. Considerations of temperament also influence a man’s choice. Each prefers a
temperament the reverse of his own; but only in so far as his is a decided one
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>be 5 feet tall
>gremlin-tier facial aesthetics
>create a whole philosophical framework to justify the fact that you can't get laid
>'T-the reason I don't have sex is because it's immoral, t-that's right!'.
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My Twisted World will teach all you need to know about sex.
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>>10006703
That's good.
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>>10000437
as a kid i started as a far righter drifting towards the fascist/alt-right side of things - that was when i was a dumb ignorant kid
more i read and more erudite i became, i turned more and more reactionary until the point where i transcended the entire ideological paradigm into pure perennial wisdom while in the same time completely ignoring life in practice and remaining an antisocial neckbeard
i have let the abyss consume me willingly, laughing at neitzsche's hopeful childish worldview, i embraced the nature of being a fatalist in every practical sense of it
only one thing has remained and those are my sexual impulses which are like a mystical storm tearing apart the dark harmony of my mind
with each day i grow more obsessed - glorify and apotheosise the nature of femininity more and more, having long ago transcended merely physical dimension of desire

help me please
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>>10002150
Unless these are kg measurements I laugh at you, you fucking pretentious unreflected faggot.
I sqaut 225 for 25 reps atg, I deadlift 360 for 6 (fucked up lumbar) and I bench 225 for 6.
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>>10006811
Hahaha you utter loser, no one cares about what number of times you can lift some specific weight. If he's a little trim then he can get a little pussy if he's wise to it. That's all there is to it.
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>>10006811
nice wide as fuck waist lmao, barrelboy fag. you wish yu had my genes
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Does anyone know anywhere I can read about nofap? I've been reading some self-discipline books and it's gotten me into lifting more, reading, meditating etc. I've been clean 1 week now but it fucking sucks, although I do feel a little stronger mentally for refusing to release since I used to fap up to 5 times daily. I won't keep it up if there's no proof of it being helpful though

I want to live as independently from sexual thoughts as possible but nofap is just making me extremely horny so far
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>>10006902
force yourself never to fap and go even further
force yourself never to engage into sexual thoughs as much as humanly possible until you go insane - then start writing

it will make you patrician
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>>10006911
I want to be independent of sex so I can be free from impulsive behavior so I can be smarter, more productive and happier. If the latter doesn't improve then there's no point
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>>10006967
absence of sexual pleasure will make your mind crazy and agressive
your mind will function in different strange ways superior to sexually satisfied plebeians

you need to absolutely shelter yourself from sexuality and after raw masculinity bottles up inside you you need to release it in form of a novel
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>>10000521
but what about masturbation. if you never orgasm don't you get prostate cancer or ejaculate in your sleep or something
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>>10006902
Nofap increases your testosterone and makes you give off more pheremones to attract females and the masculinity to keep them coming for more. Once you get a gf you should ejaculate inside her nightly.

A secure traditional relationship is the ultimate freedom from the degeneracy of hookups and fapping.
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>>10007143
You people are fucking unbelievable.
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>>10006911
>>10006986
Terribly advice, your artistic creativity may be bolstered, or it may not be, but your quality of life will definitely be damaged

>>10006967
>>10006902
Don't do nofap, just don't be a weak minded faggot and exercise some self discipline so you fap in moderation (way less than quindaily). Don't go the other extreme and not fap at all and deprive yourself of the stress release, relaxation and easy way to clear your head of sexual urges so you can focus.
T-levels rise after the last emission, until 7 days after, at which point they start to drop. So, fap every 7 days ish. That's an attainable goal you can stick to

>>10007143
A source for basically all of your first sentence would be great, and one that isn't placebo testimonials

>getting a gf
>not getting a long-term monogamous fuckbuddy
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>>10007485
Pheromones don't exist?
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>>10008755
>>getting a gf
>>not getting a long-term monogamous fuckbuddy
same thing in this broken society
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>>10009883
>muh all people think relationships are purely for sex
I think you're the broken one, anon
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>>10009898
Not all people, but very much in the 18-25 age range. Only after going through people like a pack of cigarettes some years later do people think maybe its not all about getting fisted in the club.
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>>10009912
>he doesn't fuck milfs exclusively
Enjoy not being patrician, needy women and unplanned pregnancies
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>>10009801

they were a meme in fiction for a good two decades but im seeing them mentioned less now
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>>10001180
Oh, this.

>>10001658
This happened to me as well, I just decided not to have any more sex until I get married, cause giving away my body (I'm a woman) made me feel worthless; no matter what the guy says, I can just feel it that he respects me less. Not that I was promiscuous, I just thought it was normal to have sex with a guy you're "in a relationship" with. The whole concept of dating is just retarded. I've never in my life acted natural on a date. And meeting someone and "knowing" him for a couple of weeks or days, and then to just have sex with him....honestly, right now I can't even fathom how I could ever do it. It's disgusting. Oh and the "one night stand" concept, don't even get me started.

>>10000958
If you're talking about libido, then no. Sex doesn't drive everything we do. Libido or "sexual energy" is Freud's term for it. It is actually not just sexual energy, it's energy for life in general. Your body is full of it, and you can choose to empty it by sex, or by something more productive. It's a force of life. Which brings me to my anecdote for OP
>>10000437
Balzac supposedly masturbated a lot but never finished because he wanted to tank up that energy and refocus it all on writing
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