Dating

Sorry famo. I'm ftm and I've never dated either. It just seems too daunting as a trans person. I get the feeling that girls are suuuuuper picky and would never want me.

uhh, are you in therapy?

>>8858442
therapy can't do anything

>>8858389
>28
>about 50% passable after 4 years on T and top surgery
>extremely deviant sexual fantasies, but in actual practice sex makes me go into hysterics
>no friends. I'm not exaggerating. I have 0 people I can talk to. When not at work I stay home and do nothing
>live in low population rural area
>avoidant personality disorder

Congrats, you transitioned into the typical 4chan poster. You're a real man now, anon. Try watching anime and playing video games, they pass the time. Maybe buy an anthropomorphic pillow, pretend it's your SO, and cry into it periodically.

>>8858747
Read The Happiness Trap. Look into ACT (Acceptance and Commitment Therapy).

>>8858758
This anon's got it, honestly.
OP you're a man, my son. This is what it is. You're dying inside. Get an xbox and abottle of whiskey because it doesn't get easier from here on out

If you want to stop being isolated you should go back to being a pretty girl

>>8858389
If your pic is where you live and you like outdoors / camping / photography literally become my bf.

t. unlovable tranny.

>>8859875
>tfw when ugly as a girl
>tfw look like incelfag as a boy

There is no salvation sometimes. If you're ugly you're worthless as a person to most people. And I'm actually ugly. I didn't get any female privilege besides being expected to not do anything right.

>>8858389
>extremely deviant sexual fantasies
???

>>8858389
You have no friends to talk to? Family?
Not even coworkers you have bantz with?

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Im 20 but being a friendless loser in your teenage years really does a number on you. Having a hard time socializing on any level and everyone i think about meeting already has much more experience than me.

why do you feel like you need a relationship anon? cultivate your own personality and interests and set some goals for your life, relationships are a distraction for the years of youth

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>>8861023
>why do you have common instincts the vast majority of humans have

>>8860957
No one in my family has anything in common with me. Being around them is uncomfortable and unpleasant.

I do have coworkers but my job is done solitary and I rarely talk to anyone at work. Anyway, do you think a tranny with avoident personality disorder has social skills for bantz?

>>8859875
>pretty girl
>who goes into hysterics during sex
No one would want me still.

>>8858389
you know what OP, you are not the only fucked up person in the world. A lot of other people are fucked up too. Don't sell yourself short. A lot of people out there act picky, but at the end of the day, they have to take what they can get.

>>8861822
some people aren't made for other people. learn to live your life without others. you can be alone without being lonely, it just takes some time getting used to.

>>8858389
also, you may try fetlife.

>>8858389
try plenty of fish. Okcupid is garbage now in my opinion and full of literally the worst people.

>>8858389
>okcupid
Only good if you are into
>fatties
>uggos
>genderfluid male appearing college 18 year olds
>jailbait
>a man who owns a furby fursuit and wears it in all his pictures
>creepy messages

>>8861868
>genderfluid male appearing college 18 year olds
>a man who owns a furby fursuit and wears it in all his pictures
>creepy messages
Sounds like my kind of crowd. Sign me up.

>>8858389
Just find an Internet gf and ERP

>>8861878
I wish I had kept the picture it really was the strangest thing. All 3 pictures he had a furby fursuit. In one he was hugging some sort of stuffed monkey.

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>>8858389
Get a desperate MtF gf.
Like, if even a /r9k/ beta virgin can get a gf you can too.
They are so desperate for love they will probably let you do your fucked up fetishes on them.

t. chaser who fucked a lot of desperate cuties.

>>8861882
ERP involving "extremely deviant sexual fantasies" interests me.

>>8861892
>Get a world of warcraft free account.
>roll a character on moon guard
>download and install the addon "MyRolePlay
>get your character to the lions pride inn in elwynn forest
>fill out your myroleplay character sheet
>include a description of your character, 18+ details, list of kinks or things you want to try
>make note that you are a trial and people have to whisper you first
>enjoy erp

Like, how do you want to keep a close relationship if you can't even keep friends around?

Stop being delusional, my man.

>>8861822
>>pretty girl
>>who goes into hysterics during sex
>No one would want me still.

LMAO there are literally beta cucks out there who are desperate enough to date an ugly mtf hon who goes into hysterics after sex. Not saying go repressgen but come on now. Women won't put up with much unless you are rich and/or 8+/10, but there are plenty of men who are desperate enough.

Honestly if you only 50% pass and you like men, you can probably find a beta who would *still* date you, hysterics and all

>>8858389
Did you date when you were still female anon?

>>8861889

This is also a viable option, most mtfs are basically asexual anyway so she won't care if you don't want to have sex ever

>>8861952
>Honestly if you only 50% pass and you like men, you can probably find a beta who would *still* date you, hysterics and all

Without detransitioning I mean

>avoidant personality disorder

Yeah you're pretty much screwed unless you learn to stop being a weird shutin and actually make use of yourself.

>>8861957
>most mtfs are basically asexual anyway
explain this?!?!

>>8862234
i think he meant incel, not asexual

>>8858389
>ftm
>28
>no friends. I'm not exaggerating. I have 0 people I can talk to. When not at work I stay home and do nothing
>live in low population rural area
Oh fuck, me too. How I ended up to actually prefer the extreme isolation probably isn't right for you, so moving on.

The first thing you need to do is stop watching porn. I'm not a proponent of nofap in the long run, but from what I've heard people with fetishes lose most or all of them and have a sort of sexuality reset after a few months. So try that if you can't stop the deviant fantasies cold turkey. Not only do extreme fetishes reduce your quality of life in general, they'll make it way harder to find a compatible partner, basically impossible to find a healthy one, and you definitely won't be able to get started on fixing your sexual hangups. The freaking out at the prospect of actual sex is completely fixable though, and again, getting rid of the fetishes will get you way closer to that. They're probably a result of the hangups in the first place. Most partners would also be cool with working through your remaining hangups if you already had gotten partway over them, so don't feel like you need to be completely fixed before starting a relationship.

Try as hard as you can to get to higher pop areas around once a month whether via train, bus, whatever, not because cities don't suck but because of there being more things there. You should try to see a therapist for the avoidant personality disorder for example, hell there might even be one near where you live instead. What you should definitely do as soon as you're ready, maybe after therapy for the avoidance if absolutely necessary, is find a group that's relevant to your interests. Could be anything from vidya to ham radio to shooting (look for Pink Pistols if you're in the US and into the latter). Prioritize platonic relationships first. The most solid romances grow naturally out of genuine friendships anyway.
>tfw character limit

>>8858389
Are you gay bi or straight?

>>8861955
Not really. My only relationship was with someone I met on 4chan, around the same time I started HRT. It was a pretty good relationship, it didn't work out for reasons unrelated to me being trans, but the sexual issues were a huge source of anxiety and drama. I can't enjoy sex no matter what I do and I'd prefer to be with someone asexual but that's a needle in a haystack.

I've never really "presented female." I had facial hair and didn't shave in highschool. I mean I know that's just living as an ugly female, not a man, but still. I've never been cute and never had access to male attention is what I'm saying.

>>8862541
gay

>>8861847
How long? It's been about 3 years since I've had a friend. I was ok for the 2 years and now I'm slipping into insanity. I spend nearly every waking moment now pretending someone is with me. I don't have a waifu pillow but it's the same thing, just in my head, and it's not helping at all. I feel like one of those monkeys trying to cuddle a wire mother.

>>8862638
Tell us about your deviant sexuality OP. If we match we can ERP together and maybe be online friends too.

Tell me about the pretending someone is with you too.

Have you tried finding someone asexual? Don't say it's a needle in a haystack before looking.

>>8862676
Ok. I like humiliation, TG, transformation, rape/nonconsensual, slavery, chastity, long term orgasm denial. Some of my favorite fap fantasies are being turned into a female horse or centaur, or other animals. Or being the fulltime slave of a dominant man and kept in chastity forever.

>Have you tried finding someone asexual? Don't say it's a needle in a haystack before looking.
I haven't tried that hard. I've looked on okcupid and all the people with the keyword asexual on their profile that live within a 50 mile radius of me don't look like people I'd get along with.

>Tell me about the pretending someone is with you too.
I pretend this particular guy is holding me whenever I'm in bed, or walking beside me holding my hand. He's always petting me and telling me it'll be ok. It's pathetic.

>>8862792
I have very similar kinks but also from the sub side. But we can still share hot scenarios and fave fictions?

Instead of just looking for asexual as a keyword, consider just adding to your own profile that you aren't going to have sex and mentioning it to people you message.

Pretending a guy is with you isn't insane, just lonely.

>>8862792
So you're thoroughly submissive, attracted to men, but you transitioned to a man? Kind of shot yourself in the foot there. Being a submissive male is a special kind of hell, the worst combination possible to be honest.

>>8862861
>missing the MTF TG

>>8862861
>Being a submissive male is a special kind of hell, the worst combination possible to be honest.

If you're gay and cis it's fucking not.

>>8863017
It is. Gay cis subs are 90% of the population and they're competing constantly for doms. Why do you think there's an entire population of gays that go mtf just so they can get out of this shithole? I'd do it if I was lucky enough to look good and get out of this shithole too!

>>8858389
>about 50% passable after 4 years on T
what weak shit are you taking fuck me

Are you straight or gay, op? If you want, you can add me on skype if you're looking for friends.

>>8863043
you don't know anything about me. We'd talk twice and then one of us would block the other after realizing we have nothing in common

>>8863038
I have a very unfortunate facial structure

>>8863034
Sorry but I have no sympathy for cis problems. You could suck it up and be vers if you had to

>>8863053
Why do you assume there'd be nothing in common?

>>8858389
where do you live op?