How do we heal the relationship between HSTS and AGP?

>>8837848
HSTS need to stop pretending they are trans and start dating transbians.

>>8837848
it's a false dichotomy, beyond the obvious extreme cases it's more than likely to have characteristics of both types

>>8837870
tbqhon this this this

>>8837848
Find a cure.
Don't worry about HSTS vs AGP, just find the cure for both and get out of this mess.

In the meantime, remember transition doesn't work.

>>8837848
We HSTS are only the trutrans™ and we suffer from being associated with disgusting, perverted, degenerate, predatory diaperfag AGPs.
That's why we hate them and as long as they keep pretending to actually be trans our hate will never seize.

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>>8840159
> said a delusional faggot who thinks tricking heterosexual men into fucking him is not gay

No, homophobic bigots. Stop pretending to be women. You are not TruTrans™. Those you call AGP actually want to be women, while you just want to rape straight guys.

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>>8840203
Posting LWA on my /polgbt/?
AGPs are diaper wearing freaks who fap to themselves in the mirror and perv on women in public toilets.
You're literally just living a fetish while we HSTS are actually women and live normal lives with normal romantic relationships.

>>8837848

Isn't the real split between crossdressers and transsexuals?

I mean HSTS and AGP transsexuals can at least compare wound depth or something. But they both despise the men who only get boobs or go around in wigs.

>>8840159
top kek
if anything AGPs are the trutrans because they aren't just effeminate gay men transitioning to get straight dick.

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>>8840221
Pic related is the face of AGP.
Enjoy being associated with this degenerate trash fire.

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>>8840218
> homosexual transsexual
> actually women

Wow. That is some very stunning mental gymnastics going on here. Why are you guys posting those slut threads about 'big daddy cocks' all over /tttt/ then? If you are women and you are homosexual, you should be attracted to women, no?

Easy, stop calling the group you don't like fake trans. Both HSTS and AGP are tru if they experience dysphoria. Blanchard thought both groups should transition.

>>8840227
Implying CWC is AGP and not a failed male.

>>8840234
he sure isn't HSTS ;^)

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>>8840231
>big daddy cock
>can't possibly be part of the AGP diaps faggotry
But sure... I'm the one pulling the mental gymnastics.

>>8840238
Implying there are no alternatives to either now that being a tranny is an internet craze. There are even people here who admit to transitioning because of being failed beta males who thought life as a qt gril would be easier.

>>8840242
Even if we suppose some out of those threads are not made by you HSTS, the question is still there. You claim to be homosexual and women, yet you are attracted to men. How could that possibly be?

>>8840243
See that's the type of person AGP and HSTS should be united in condemning

>>8840261
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>>8840261
Blanchardians seem to forget that his studies and the follow ups were all done 10 years ago or more. Since then being a tranny has undoubtedly become the cool thing for internet losers to do. It gives meaning to their lives. We should consider there are totally new kinds of tranny out there right now. The anime obsessed beta losers are definitely one.

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>>8840258
Now that's easy...
>homosexual male
>transitions to female
>becomes heterosexual female
We don't keep our label when we're done transitioning because we're women when we're done.

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>>8840275
So the fact that you are keeping your label now, means that you are a homosexual male.

>>8840275
personally I don't call my orientation straight or gay because what people call it seems to be up to their politics. Easier to just say which gender you're attracted to, easier still if you're bi.

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>>8840282
No that was just my starting point.
Since I'm almost done with my transition now I'm a female.

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>>8840296
> "almost done"
> not yet done

Are you implying that all HSTSes remaining here, including you, are unpassable hons? So this is why you do the "AGP hon shaming" thing so much. You are projecting your own hon-ness on us. That is something new I learned today.

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>>8840306
By almost done I meant that I'm still waiting on my SRS. That's all I'm missing to feel complete but nice try twisting it degenerate.

>>8840261
Or maybe you could just let people do what they want to do? I just came to this board a few days ago to learn more about myself. Why is it just several factions trying to hate each other? I don't understand.

>>8837848

> Creating debates on made up shit

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>>8840159
>diaperfag AGP
grrrr

>>8840602
this is real

>>8840582
Because this is 4chan. The asshole of the internet. The Final Boss. The PainBox. It's not a meme; this place destroys the weak and thin-skinned. Almost every single board.

Many if not most posts are trolls or bots. People shitpost as things they aren't, also. Then the Nazi's come in to stir things up, the christians come in to stir things up, when we get bored WE stir things up. It's the echo chamber of the broken, the forgotten, and the unwanted. In the old days most of us would have been aborted at birth or left to die.

Naturally, that makes us an incredibly resilient, if very damaged, group.

Welcome. Make sure you want to stay, because you're here forever.

>>8841312
Well put. I just feel like of all boards, there are more vulnerable people here. I just don't see this kind of blue vs red drama everywhere else. Even people on pol usually agree on things.

>>8837870
Trying to force HSTS to like women is conversion therapy.

>>8841912
Transitioning HSTS is conversion therapy.

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>>8837848
Old disgusting men who wear lingerie to get off are by definition AGP.
It's just an autistic fetish and yet these degenerates claim to be trutrans.
AGPs are making a mockery of gender dysphoria and other struggles of real trans people.
Also most of them don't pass since passing and actually putting effort into transition isn't part of their fucked up fetish.
As long as what they see in the mirror somewhat resembles a female they're satisfied and for some of them it's even the not passing and humiliation that gets the off the hardest.
And of course then there's also the diaper thing...

>>8837848
I guarantee this isn't an issue outside of 4chan lol, this board is pretty much a dumping ground for the most dysfunctional sociopathic transsexuals who chew each other out to feel more 'legit' or 'aware'. Not an accurate representation of the transsexual population, most trans ppl I've met irl don't give a rats ass about this semantic bullshit lol

>>8845091
Reminder that AGP crossdressers have always been the true transgenders. Anyone else is a transsexual.

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>>8845091
Here parroting this thing again, homosexual male samefag honey? It seems that your brain needs some urgent reassignment more than your penis, because you are behaving like a savage man ferociously defending his frail masculinity, but with your TruTrans-inity this time. Not really that surprising I guess?

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>>8845123
What a surprise... the degenerate is back for more.
Are you going to try and defend your fetish again?

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>>8845147
> implying you established yourself as TruTrans last time
> by identifying as a homosexual male

Oh. Wow. Okay. You can have that exact victory for as much times as you want. When are you shedding your label as you have said, though? I hope it's soon, because hearing the delusional speak for once is fun, but more than that and it gets quite annoying.

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>>8845205
I already got rid of it, see >>8840296
Is the spiro fucking with your memory again?
But nice that you didn't just fuck off again like last time.
Maybe you can explain now how AGPs are supposed to be legitimate and not just autistic perverts with a fetish.

>>8845205
If she wants to pretend to be a gay man instead of trans we should respect his self-identity.

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>>8845219
Now that is confusing. If you have really gotten rid of your trans label, then you are no longer associated with whatever negative images you decide to associate with what you call AGPs. Why are you still here throwing your manrage around then? You should no longer have a reason to do that, do you?

What you call AGPs are legitimate because they have gender dysphoria as opposed to homophobia.

>>8845227
Yes. I'm curious however how he decided to call himself a TruTrans™ despite that. A gay male assigned male at birth is not trans, but he seems to be oblivious to that.

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>>8845252
Well I'm not as active as I used to be but I'm still here because I'm aware that AGPs outnumber HSTS on /lgbt/ and I just can't let you perverts spread your degenerate narrative.
AGPs also don't have gender dysphoria they just have a fucking fetish. They're literally no better than someone who get's off by publicly masturbating. Maybe you should read up on Blanchards work.
Also pretty autistic to reply to your samefag.

>>8845252
If he wants to identify as a gay man who thinks he's a trans woman, what's the harm in letting him?

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>>8845275
Ray Blanchard believes you are born male, and will stay male whatever you do, though. That is why he calls you "homosexual" in the first place. If you are proposing Blanchard as an authority that need no further justification to be right, then you must also accept that even after your transition you are still a gay man with a (somewhat alleviated) mental illness.

> reply to your samefag
Not me.

>>8845391
That means he is being delusional, and it must be pointed out lest he memes any legitimate trans person.

>>8845418
True.

>>8845275
>has clearly never actually read what Blanchard (or anyone else) wrote on AGP

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>>8845400
According to Blanchard you're a guy with a fetish so there goes AGPs being legitimate...
Also it seems like you can't understand the concept of transitioning.
You transition from something into something else is that really so hard to understand?
And really... your samefagging needs to stop.

>>8845451
yes but the same applies to hsts
and anyway hes wrong because dysphoria exists outside of sexual orientation or fetishes
that's why nobody takes blanchardianism seriously in real life and it's not even a factor in gatekeeping anymore

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>>8845451
Maybe instead of me samefagging, it could be that your beliefs is not as universally held as you would like to believe?

>>8845451
Actually Blanchard says AGPs are women, uses female pronouns for them, etc.

I can't recall him ever doing the same for an HSTS.

>>8845481
Wouldn't surprise me. I already said that this board is flooded with AGPs who think they're legitimate.
But then again you're being really obvious about it.

>>8845495
You may keep believing that. After all, the more delusional you are, the less credible your statements will seem, and less legitimate people you can possibly hurt. Your mental health is not the point.

>>8845487
You aren't going to provide any proof for this right?

>>8845506
You keep saying that but still you haven't said anything that makes AGPs appear legitimate.
Other then saying that you have dysphoria which is just plain wrong.

>>8845508
The foreword to Lawrence's book.

Do you know any time he talked about an HSTS that way?

>>8845521
You mean men trapped in men's bodies? Love how you just call it Lawrence's book for obvious reasons.

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>>8845519
> plain wrong
Nice premise there! Surely you can write anything off if you can assume any premise you'd like. Just stack more delusions upon delusions honey.

>>8845530
>you can write anything off if you can assume any premise you'd like
You mean just like you?

>>8845527
Yes, MEN Trapped in MEN's Bodies. Her only book.

(Happy?)

I'll take that as a no on the HSTS thing.

>>8845537
I've never read it tbqh but I'm trying to find a download or something.

>>8845534
> assumes Ray Blanchard's authority
> assumes my samefaggotry
> assumes that others having dysphoria is "plain wrong"
> assumes that it is like me
Certainly.

>>8845561
So you only point is that AGPs suffer from gender dysphoria?
HSTS suffer from it as well and probably even worse so what makes AGPs legitimate and HSTS illegitimate?
Can't really figure out your autistic logic behind it...

I don't like this new shill, they're not nearly as entertaining as Cara

>>8845580
HSTS suffer from gender role dysphoria.

Fuck them in the ass until they cum

>>8845610
This is probably the dumbest thing I've ever seen on here. So all they want is to be treated like a female they're aren't suffering from looking male at all?

>>8845622
Why would they? They don't have a female inner identity like AGPs do
And they even like men

>>8845622
Female isn't a way of treating people. It's a sex. You know like trans women are dysphoric over.

HSTS are dysphoric over their social role.

>>8845629
They see themselves as a heterosexual female. Why would they even transition if they're okay with being male?

>>8845635
If I use female pronouns when talking to you I'm treating you like a female.

>>8845639
To have sex with masc straight guys, because gay men are femme like they are?

>>8845639
>They see themselves as a heterosexual female.
That's debatable.

>>8845652
Well that's how I see myself but I don't get any arousal from the feminization. I'm just happy about it.

>>8845661
>Well that's how I see myself
No offense but that's probably besides the point.

>>8845672
This whole trans thing is so fucking confusing.

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>>8845681
That's why the call it transfusing my friend

>>8845612

This is not unreasonable

Put the two in a pit and let them fight to the death

>>8845754
kys shitposter