>tfw you meet an early transitioner

>>8828734
>doesnt sniff her early transitioner feminine penis

>>8828734
suck it up

I hope this day never comes. Seeing them on the internet and in my dreams is bad enough.

>>8828734
i'm a boymode twinkhon and passers always give me weird looks for some reason, i only clocked two of them because they stared at me angrily at work

>it's a "I look like a Hulkman next to an early transitioner" episode
Not my favorite episode tbqh

How is it worse then meeting any cis girl? A bloo bloo bloo, why didn't my family not be shit? Worthless.

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>>8828734
TFW you are an early transitioner, but still 5' 11".

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>>8828734
If you're nervous around early transitioners, you probably just don't have that much in common with them.

If you're just whining about passing, I don't really know what to tell you.

>>8828802
When did you transition and do you pass? Height doesn't matter if you pass.
>>8828767
Why not, anon? What's so bad about seeing them on the Internet?

Meet one who started at 15. Something went wrong and she ended up 6'2 140 kg

>>8828781
>implying family is the difference between early and late transitions

>>8828813
I pass fine, I just don't like being so tall. I started transitioning around 15ish, but I didn't get put on anything until I was 17, although I had a naturally delayed puberty.

>>8828819
Nothing went wrong that's just genetics, my dude. It boggles my mind that retards still fall for the early transition meme.

>>8828839
>I started transitioning around 15ish, but I didn't get put on anything until I was 17
Then you started transitioning at 17 not 15, therefore you are not an early transitioner, therefore you are just another late transitioner who's envious of early transitioners. :^)

>>8828743
you're not an early transitioner, cara.

You're a late transitioning AGP stalker

>>8828859
No, I had a medically diagnosed late puberty.

>>8828888
Very well then. Most biological males are pretty much fucked beyond repair at 17: the shoulders are too wide and the midfaces too long as well.

>>8828901
This. They were probably just femgry because they had to reject thirsty men hitting on them all day long.

>>8828743
Why did you delete the picture, cara?

>>8828914
Not the same poster, but I didn't really look all that much different from 13-19 either. Like, I lost some baby fat, but otherwise not much change.

>>8828914
>tfw you just sort of stopped aging or growing in height at 15 and you fit into all your old suits flawlessly

>tfw still ended up 5'9" with 15" shoulders at age 15

>>8828992
>my little statistical exception
Good for you.

>>8829022
You mean actually enforcing the rules?

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>>8828734
>tfw met early transitioner

>>8829000
15" isnt wide dude

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>>8829004
Being a statistical exception is nice.

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>>8829022
haha told you it's going to happen. and you told me "nooo mods don't care what's going on in /lgbt/"

the day of the rope is here, shitlord

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>>8829022
You have been warned, Eliposter. Cease your autismal avatarfag activity at once or face the dire consequences, my man.

>>8829037
It is if it's biacromial. 15" is below female average if it's bideltoid, which I doubt the poster is.

Although biacromial is a shitty way to determine apparent shoulder width. It's more a measurement of ribcage width, really. Bideltoid is the way to go.

>>8829116
>41" bideltoid
How I am doing, funpai?
Not them btw.

>>8828813
Is it that hard to guess? They have everything I could have hoped for solely because they were born a decade later than me

>>8829148
Also this is supposed to be bideltoid circumference. I am unable to measure the bideltoid width.

>>8829116
I always measure by the deltoids. Didn't think it was "below female average", though.

>>8829160
different poster here, but what do they have that you hope for? also how do you define early transition and when did you transition?

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>>8828734
>tfw you meet an late transitioner

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>>8829187
>tfw you meet a 6'3 eunuchoid early transitioner who got on blockers at 12 and estrogen at 16

>>8829211
tbqhon I love your memes

>>8829211
Those are the best ones, though.

I met one at university.
Because of the whole jealousy thing I harassed her pretty bad.
She ended up dropping out even though she was pretty bright academically.

You need not worry about slagging me off though, karma is already coming for me. I'm sure at the end of the day she'll be fine as well.

>>8829277
I didn't know Nicole had dropped out.

>>8829277
i wouldnt recommend that desu
i was really mean to a colleague that transitioned young (like trying to get her to commit suicide kind of mean)
she ended up helping me out a bunch and becoming my gf
no matter how much she tries to reassure me i'm still full of guilt
sometimes i think that death would almost be too good for me

>>8829315
>>8829277
What's the story behind these? When did they transition?

>>8829181
Knowledge to avoid suffering as long as I did
Widened hips, narrower ribcage and shoulders, shorter height, smaller hands and feet, female face
Well early is 18 or under but there are tiers of early at 16 14 and before
I started just before I turned 25 because I only found out about anything trans when this board was founded when I was 23

>>8829315
wew, how does such a big turnaround happen?

>>8829320
she was lucky and her mother started to read up on stuff while she was still in primary school
i'm not sure the exact year that she started presenting but it was around the same time as high school, so ~11-12
they got her on estrogen at 16

>>8829331
apparently i was really fucking obvious
she invited me over for dinner which i saw as an opportunity to be more horrible but it was a trap
i broke down and cried and she provided the shoulder
after that i couldn't be mean to her anymore and we got on pretty good
i was just really super lucky
she was well in her rights to have cut me to pieces

>>8829357
>it was a trap
how so, anon? also, do you pass and are you still jealous of her now? regardless, i hope you're able to move past this. it looks like she's forgiven you, so maybe the next step is to forgive yourself

>>8829372
the whole night was planned to get me to come out
she caught me with the simple question just before we ate
"so anon, how long have you wanted to be a girl?"

i don't pass, maybe i will, i probably won't
it's still too early to tell
as for being jealous? i'm actually not at all
it sounds corny af but she feels like a part of me
it's hard to be jealous of someone you care about so dearly

and i don't think i could forgive myself either
i'm sorta using the guilt as a motivator
i really don't wanna transition but i feel that i owe it to my gf to try since she's worked pretty hard to help me

>tfw 19.5 inch shoulders
>tfw chin the size of a peach
>tfw you're the horror story closeted trans teens are terrified of becoming
I already had my infamous jawline at age 10 so I can't beat myself up over not starting HRT earlier like some people here but I almost feel bad for transitioning for how it might deter others from trying out of fear

>>8829428
You should feel fully bad. Also totally not necessary to barge in and try to make the thread about yourself, thank you.

>>8829402
Why did you treat her so bad?

>>8829428
*rocks*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcmvwFcfWmY

>>8829402
can you go into more detail? how were you nasty? how were you obvious? what did you say after she outed you to yourself? what did she say to comfort you?

>>8829469
>tfw that guy literally has a better jawline for transitioning than I do
HOW STATISTICALLY FUCKED DID I GET HOLY SHIT
and that's not even considering factoring in having a possibly-progressive neurological disorder on top of that

>>8829483
>pretending not to notice >>8829438 calling out your attention whoring

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>>8829530
For whatever reason hons like to brag about "how much of a man they were" as some sort of accomplishment. Most likely because they're heavily socialized into taking pride in their masculinity.

>>8829530
I noticed it, it's just weak bait
haha man hon intruding on female spaces etc. etc.
I get it
I'm a self-aware hon, it doesn't really work on me
mostly I just wade in and complain about how miserable my life is, it's not like I use the womens' toilets or anything

>>8829578
Being "self aware" and "jokey" still doesn't make you one of us.

You act weird, like you expect us to relate to man stuff and masculinity and that constantly never shutting about it is how you think you'll fit in.

>>8829601
*shutting up

>>8829601
I hope this is not Eliposter speaking.

>>8829614
who is eli poster

>>8829578
You seem to be confusing Cara's trolling >>8829553 8829601 with the real observation that instead of discussing early transitioners you decided to hijack the thread to post your own sob story >>8829438

>>8829617
He's the guy who's obsessed with Eli Erlick. A sick schizo guy you don't want to know about.

>>8829618
Eli's* trolling

>>8829614
>>8829601
it's cara
and she hates robin because she's essentially the same but more of a bitter creep whereas robin is just a bit naive

>>8829644
Robin's a shitposter and attention whore of a different kind.

>>8829644
Get with the times, grandpa, he's not stalking and obsessing over Cara Delevingne anymore.
Eli*

>>8829601
oh yes and you fit in with early transitioners so well that you were rejected in your own words by at least 10 of them and one got you a restraining order

sorry for the late replies
sleep and stuff

>>8829466
i don't know what came over me
the amount of hate i felt towards her was more than i've ever felt towards anything before
it was entirely illogical

>>8829474
an example of the sort of everyday petty shit i pulled was filling in some forms for compliance stuff for our staff
i needed to ask the details that i didn't know or couldn't assume
i made sure to ask "gender" as obviously as i could for her
but the real shit was the attempted emotional manipulation
i tried to lull her in with false politeness and then pick at her insecurities
at one point she took a week off, which i later found out was my fault

it was never really discussed what made me obvious
we both sorta accepted it as fact
there wasn't really much in the way of presentation, so it would have been how i behaved

i didn't say anything
i just froze up completely trying to come to terms with what had just been asked
she pulled my head onto her shoulder and i cried like i'd just lost a child
after that we seemed to get along pretty okay

>>8832208
can you detail the hate you felt? and other things you did to upset and manipulate her?

how do you think your behavior gave it away? what did you plan to do to upset her at the meal?

had you accepted to yourself that you wanted to be a girl before she asked? what happened after you finished crying?

>>8832229
i'd rather not flesh out the hate much further, sorry
and i'm not sure what gave it away
it was probably something like the fact that everything negative was someway linked to her being trans, and how it started only after she came out
she wasn't out for a while, but decided to for pride one year

i'm not even sure what my plan was for the meal
i probably knew what was coming subconciously

before she asked i probably knew, but i would never have admitted it
it was a massive weight on my shoulder at times

afterwards though, we sat at the floor of her couch and talked about stuff
she was sure to reassure me that i was still a normal person
i was sure to apologise profusely every time there was a break in conversation

>>8832468
do you have a throwaway email?

>Tfw I went drinking with a 60+ year old MtF who transitioned only a few years ago
>Tfw I'm 22 and 8 months on HRT
>Tfw hearing her talk about how lucky I am to have such a soft voice made me want to cry
>Tfw she implied she thought it was just a fetish for years and years before eventually transitioning
>Tfw realized it's tough for her to look at me the same way it's tough for me to look at an earlier transitioner
It's just a bad deal in life for us all around.

>>8832468
she's a very kind person.

>>8828819
She was on anti-androgens too long and basically has the physique of a Eunuch.

Estrogen need to start by 12-16.

>>8834405
she's the kindest person that i've ever known
and not just with this stuff but in general


>>8832504
i don't but like if you really really want one i could maybe get one
idk if there would be much i could talk about

>>8832468
thats so cute omg

>>8828819
>>8828849

Males are not far from their final height at 15, their growth needs to start slowing down at 14 to end up at a cis female height. And for growth to slow at 14, it may be necessary to start at 13. Growth in males starts slowing naturally at 16.

>>8828833

How is it not?

>>8829438
>>8829553

Fuck off.

>>8829700

Hoo boy. Ten early transitioners?

>>8832536

Did you at least reassure her that you know what it's like?

>>8836557
>How is it not?
some don't even know they're trans until late teens.

>>8836557
>Did you at least reassure her that you know what it's like?
She transitioned at 50+ and she passes. She doesn't seem to have it that rough. I've met tens of, if not a hundred at least, people who refer to her and honestly even though she doesn't do voice training I legitimately and seriously doubt people know that she's trans. She just comes across as an older woman with a husky voice and a hilariously dark sense of humor.

She's a real mystery. She can hold her alcohol insanely well and she has a resilient personality that really makes me admire her. She was surprised I was 8 months HRT and not presenting female which made me realize, given her experiences with the younger and older trans community in our area, /lgbt/ is the outlier for pushing boymode to it's limits. She helped me accept that I shouldn't be binding and I should at least, now, slowly get my documentation and affairs in order.

With the amount of trans people that come forward to her for guidance, she's like a mommy duck to a whole bunch of eggs. I hope one day I can be that useful to the community.

>>8828734
>early transitioner
you mean abused child

>>8836664
Some early transitioners are AGP.

>>8829428
you're also a degenerate that does drugs and has casual sex as well

kystbhon

>>8836001
please do and when you have just say and i'll post mine.

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>>8836557
>Hoo boy. Ten early transitioners?
No, I've only ever met two *actual* pre-pubertal early transitioners.

>>8828778
>I got violent with someone for not liking me.

Assuming this happened (spoiler: it didn't) then that would make you a total sociopath. Great job making everyone else look bad.

>>8828734
16 it early transition?

>>8836624

That's not most trans people though. I would bet at minimum, 2/3 of trans people would have transitioned early if they had had parents with positive views of LGBT people when they were growing up.

>>8836911

Clocking doesn't mean punching among trans people. For trans people, it means reading that someone is trans and not cis.

>>8836662

You're MtF, right? Why on Earth would you bind your breasts?

>>8836664

>Conservative parents and religious values

You mean delusional child abusers and a scapegoating, money-grubbing racket.

>>8837173
Not even close

>>8837641
they might bind if they are boymode

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>>8836897
Was this alleged "meeting" consensual or just like everything else involving your very person warranting yet another restraining order?

>>8837803
Binding damages breast tissue and interferes with growth though.

>>8828734
>tfw forced to watch people live the life you've dreamed of just by being born 5-10 years later

>>8838356
I know what you mean but elaborate?

>>8838406
>knows what anon means
>still asking for elaboration
what did xe mean by this?

>>8828734
Is 21-22 considered early or late?

>>8838317
hence why i dont bind and my boymode fails

>>8838670
'late' when you stop growing

but somehow I think people are convinced that has more to do than genetics. Really, the only time age can overwrite bad genetics is if you block/transition before puberty

>>8838666
Examples of times she feels that way, specific things she couldn't do or they could that remind her, things that emphasize just how short the time gap was between them and her, etc.

>>8838683
>'late' when you stop growing
When is that?

>>8829211
The funny thing is that hormones wont change the growth naturally so your stuck the way you are

>>8838674
just wear baggy clothes

i was so close to becoming one, it makes me feel horrible i'd make them uncomfortable for starting at 18

>>8848340
What do you mean?

>>8848340
what stopped you?

>>8848342
>>8851245
He wasn't feminine and didn't transition early.

https://www.gaystarnews.com/article/trans-teens-gender-reassignment-tweets-give-twitter-life/
JEALOUSY INTENSIFIES

>>8853539
>>8851245
>>8848342
mental health issues and anxiety
i couldn't talk to people in general let alone tell them i was trans
i tried several times but i couldn't get it out
my mental health is way better now though

>>8853652
Please shut up already.

>>8853539
i was always pretty feminine, i remember my parents constantly telling me to stop acting like i was so people wouldn't think i was "a poof" or "tranny"
they acted like this never happened when i came out at 17 though

>>8846101
Estradiol will change growth, but blockers can end up increasing growth. By age 16 you can be at or close to adult height, though the proportions should be better than with testosterone. Sixteen is really too late to start estradiol.

>>8838670

It's late. Early is like 14 or below. Really, before puberty starts, so the age limit for early is lower for FtMs than MtFs.

>>8848340

That you would make who feel horrible?

>>8853652

When did she start estrogen? Her face is kind of ugly/manly.