Is it possible to be gay and conservative? Pic Unrelated

>>8827198
yes

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>>8827210
How exactly can you support people who would have you stripped of your rights and want nothing to do with you?

>>8827214
Pretty easily despite people's opinion on their opinion. Do you also ask 'is it possible to be black and a KKK member?' and 'is it possible to be trans but be transphobic?'

>>8827198
You can ask Ernst Rohm's ghost about that.

>>8827198
Depends on your definition of conservative. If you're like >>8827214 and think conservatism means fucking nazis or something then the answer is still yes but alot less.

>>8827221
He can ask Milo too.

>>8827275
Milo isn't dead.

>>8827219
Except conservatism isn't inherently anti-gay. That's leftism.

>>8827221
>nazism
>conservative

>>8827198
Yes American dad once did a episode about Conservative gays a few years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcFEIW8Ev7s

>>8827198
Since conservatism is not inherently anti gay, yes.

Christianity really did a flip flop a few decades ago, deciding to push love rather than fear.

Im speaking generally of-course, but all in all you will find the left to be more accepting and respectful of you as a person than the right.

Why not. Look at Dolce & Gabbana..openly gay, conservative, even against gay marriage

>>8827214
Not all conservatives were anti-gay even historically, see, Lolbertarians. The left didn't want gays to marry up until a few years ago themselves. There is an inherent incompatibility between being gay and conservative though, they're negatively correlated. Peoples identities are often more than their sexuality though /lgbt/.

Imagine a gay guy supported breeders because he was born by breeders, but didn't want to breed himself, and conservatives were promising to help out breeders, he might be "well shit if I can't breed I should help these guys breed". Not really that unimaginable, he's supporting a position that doesn't directly benefit him. It might benefit however benefit his genes, as it might help his breeding relevates breed, and it might be closer to their sense of personal ethics. Political allegiance isn't necessarily about personal self-interest.

Maybe they're just a rich billionaire faggot, don't care about other faggots, and want tax cuts, and the homosexuality stuff is unimportant to them. Especially given the left and the right increasingly have the same standpoints on the issue, the left often only haven been slightly ahead of the right on gay rights issues.

>>8828304
For me personally, if marriage didnt receive exclusive benefits i would not be in favor of gay marriage. Simply because the people who created marriage said no gays. But once you hand that shit to the gov, cant be picky you know what i mean?

>>8827219
The Klan takes all races provided they subscribe to the Klan's ideas.
You'd be very surprised at the amount of PoC in there.

>>8828361
Gay marriage doesn't stop it being picky. It still unfairly treats couples.

The exclusive benefits are the problem, not who can access them.

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Well every time i tried to walk with the conservatives they just autistically scream at me BC of the low IQ.

>>8828486
Nobody here said you could be trans and conservative.

>>8828486
Just tell them you won't be reproducing anyway.

>>8827198
yes. it's called internalized homophobia.

>>8828486
You are talking to someone who would be called conservative now and I would not scream at you.

>>8827198
bump

>>8827198
Since gay rights are now enshrined in law and widely accepted, yes. Conservative means you want to, y'know, conserve society as it currently exists. Anybody who wants to repeal LGBT rights is reactionary, not conservative. They would've been conservative 10 years ago, and they're still desperately trying to claim they still represent mainstream conservatism today, but the truth is they're a dying force in politics.

>>8831911
>enshrined in law and widely accepted
Only in a minority of countries.

>>8831911
Reactionism is a necessary response to revolutionism.

>>8827214
You mean old people?

>>8827198
Define conservative. Do you mean holding a majority conserative ideals? Lets go with mainstream ones. You are gay and you 1) support Israel 2) oppose abortion 3) support limited immigration 4) support a strong military 5) believe in the 2nd ammendment. 6) believe god should play a role in government. Vs.... believing gays should be able to marry and trans should use the bathroom of their choice, the idea that overall LGBT is not immoral.The world is not black and white dude. You can hold many different beliefs and in fact , many people do. Heck some gays dont even believe in gay marriage. Im not including what we on 4chan define as "conservative" like race realism and segregration, but you can even reason those out and be a conservative gay. Fucking look at pollgbt for an example.

>>8836329
>Heck some gays dont even believe in gay marriage.
I'm bi and I don't.

>>8836329
>Heck some gays dont even believe in gay marriage.

Hi

Marriage is a religious institution, and should stay that way. Civil unions are a perfectly adequate replacement for gays and atheists etc

Most faggots can't even do monogamy anyway, so they turn marriage even more into a sham than it currently is

We also shouldn't be allowed to adopt kids.

Yes. I'm gay but I think things were better back in the good old days, before all the degenerate innovations like
>Trans rights
>Gay rights
>Ethnic equality
>Gender equality
>Religious freedom
>Caste equality
>Multinationalism
>Written language
>Communication
>Walking on hind legs only
>Mammals
>Land
>Being multicellular
>Being eukaryotic
>Being alive
>Planets
>Stars
>Molecules
>Atoms
>The universe
Y'all are fucking sick in the head.

>>8836353
Marriage kind of... y'know... isn't religious.
It started off irreligious, then got hijacked by religion. We're just, y'know, taking it back for the atheists. "Cibiru partunaru" also sounds way worse than "waifu" and "husbando" so fuck that.

>>8836353
>Most faggots can't even do monogamy anyway, so they turn marriage even more into a sham than it currently is
If that was true I'd support gay marriage. They don't, they legitimize it.

What delegitimizes it is gay and straight couples switching to civil unions.

>>8836359
>>Ethnic equality
>>Gender equality
But those two actually are bad.

>>8836412
All of them are bad, fuckwit. Every time something new on that list came into place, it fucked over the initial establishment of order, which is bad. Tell me one way that anything on that list didn't fuck over the way everything was before said thing changed.

>>8836421
Written language and trans rights are good.

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>>8836353
Partners National Survey of Lesbian & Gay Couples 1988:

http://www.buddybuddy.com/survey.html

https://www.queerty.com/monogamy-making-comeback-among-younger-gay-couples-study-finds-20160922

http://archive.is/vobIA2

“The most striking finding of this study is younger gay men’s greater inclination toward monogamy,” the researchers report. “We see this in the overwhelming number of relationships that are monogamous (86 percent). In addition, 90 percent of the single younger gay men were seeking monogamy. This is a sea change compared to older generations of gay men.”

>>8836431
Writen language screwed over the culture of recitations and esoteric knowledge, while trans rights screwed over sacred public pee pee poo poo times and IVF laws.
We should take all efforts to destroy the universe.

>>8827198
depends on the flavour of conservative. right lolbertarians generally don't care

>>8827716
Living people can have ghosts

>>8836359
>calling the universe a degenerate invention
The void is strong in this one.

gay and fiscally conservative yes
gay and have a conservative foreign policy yes

gay and socially conservative? you probably fall more in the "moderate" category socially if you identify with conservatism, most of the "conservative" gays i know are actually very socially liberal.

>8827214
Failing to observe the difference between social/fiscal policy is what gives log cabin homos a bad rap

It's really unlikely for a gay person to be a religious fundamentalist or hold some sort of sex in the missionary position for the purpose of procreation world view. Cmon anon, you knew better. Admit it.

>>8827198
>2017
>still dealing in conservative vs liberal metrics
haha
there is only pro-white and anti-white

>>8841127
Which are you?

>>8827198
Interestingly the Faggots I've met up with around here all share conservative views. Myself included.

>>8841284
pro-white of course
pro-white is synonymous with pro-Earth and pro-Humanity, as both are fucked without whites
I shudder to think the state of the planet with the chinks running things, which is where we are headed, but at least it won't be the Jewish occupied USA calling the shots anymore

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>>8841000
>gay and fiscally conservative

so you're cheap and you like to sleep around
not that attractive tbqh

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>>8841348
>muh white race!

lol

>>8841373
the white race will prevail, as it always has, there is no doubt in my mind about it

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yes
but only if you pick up a rifle

>>8841366
??
ive been with the same guy going on 5 years now...

knowing i'm more conservative and not assuming i'm also monogamous.....
???
r u stupid?

>>8841397
why dose that book have a nazi logo???

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>>8841388
>1388

exactly.
the cream rises to the top.
all this sturm und drang about negros and muslims and jews (oh my!) is fake news.

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>>8841431
So White Christians are a minority now and you think non-Whites would hesitate to oppress them? Ever heard of a little place called Haiti?

>>8827198
You might as well ask:

>Is it possible to be gay and have free will?

>>8841437
All this shows me is that white people are turning away from religion faster than other groups.

>>8841431
is isn't fake news, it just won't matter in the end because whites are bound to wake up eventually if we keep spreading the truth
however, if we just sat around like you suggest, we would indeed go extinct

>>8841437
Are whites oppressed in Haiti?
No, they are the ruling class.

>>8841437
It's not non-whites the white christians have to be worried about friend. It's all the well educated white fedoras in science and technology doing more and more every day to demonstrate that religion is irrelevant to the needs of modern society.

>>8841476
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1804_Haiti_massacre

>>8841476
whites are genocided

>your gay rights are rendered to null

>>8841476
just like South Africa, amirite?

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>>8841505
South Africa is an interesting example because white's were the rulers for centuries until the -voluntarily- ceded control due to external pressures.
I'm surprised you didn't know that, or maybe you're just trolling.

>>8841567
that's my point faggot

>>8841615
Your point is that whites are inherently weaker due to peer pressure?

>>8841647
that's true too
>whites cede control to niggers
>country goes to shit and killing whites is now a national sport

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>>8841672
How does that make the white race superior?
Sounds like they are inferior if they willingly "turn the other cheek" and allow themselves to be dominated.
White race = Cucks

>>8836353
>Marriage is a religious institution, and should stay that way. Civil unions are a perfectly adequate replacement for gays and atheists etc
Yes

>Most faggots can't even do monogamy anyway, so they turn marriage even more into a sham than it currently is
Yes

>We also shouldn't be allowed to adopt kids.
Yeah instead of allowing those pesky homos to adopt kids we should leave them in abusive and overcrowded foster homes I'm sure that will be better for the child's development.

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>>8841724

http://religionnews.com/2017/08/04/britains-first-same-sex-marriage-celebrated-in-a-scottish-church/

http://archive.is/5p3DJ

http://news.abs-cbn.com/overseas/08/25/17/italian-protestant-church-says-i-do-to-gay-blessings

http://archive.is/qSJ0j

http://www.lep.co.uk/news/church-takes-its-first-gay-wedding-booking-1-8737310

>>8841730
If less religious congregations want to marry gays they have every right to do so as well.

>>8841747
Less religious?

>>8841757
More liberal, I should have said. In my community we refer to more liberal institutions and people as "less religious."

>>8841757
Less conservative.

>>8841708
I've had this same debate with you before, faggot. White people having empathy, believing that other races can be as generous as whites are, is not a flaw. It is the flaw of the other races that they repeatedly take advantage of whites trying to help them succeed. Despite this, whites are more advanced and have thriving societies when insulated.

>>8841476
How are leftists this retarded?

>>8841792
It's a flaw of whites that they fall for trying to help other races.

>>8841860
What is a 'white' and what are the other 'races'?

>>8841860
it's a flaw of other races that they hurt those trying to help them

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>>8841792
Isn't that the argument blacks use for affirmative action?
"I can't compete outside my safe space!"
That's not superior, dumbfuck, that's inferior, by definition.

>>8842080
What are you talking about, Tyrone? Whites are successful with every single thing they do, then other races come in and screw it up. Keep whining about wypipo tho, ghetto monkey.

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>>8827198
yes and no.

gays can have conservative opinions.

but the conservative movement has an issue with gays.

>>8841894
People of primarily European descent vs other.

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>>8842761

>>8836343
You don't get to say shit, breeder scum

>>8844598
>reddit filename
as expected

>>8836435
Saved, that's actually super uplifting to see

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>>8844619
I found it on google image search.
I saw it on /pol/ orginally and it fits the situation quite well you have to admit.
But I guess you have no argument so you have to go for the ad hominem "you're a stupid redditor!" response

Here's a pic with a tumblr filename.
I wonder how you'll respond?

>>8844672
>tumblr filename
as expected

>>8827198
Better question, is it possible to be TRANS and conservative?

>>8847829
I've talked to a bunch of right wing trannies but they were all NRx and other weird shit

>>8847829
Yes, it's normally called "self-loathing/repressing" though and not "trans"

>>8849241
I guess if you believe you are a gay male woman believing monarchy is imminently returning is not that huge a leap of faith.

>>8849251
Repressors are still trans.

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>>8849261
>a gay male woman

>>8849241
>NRx
?

>>8849312
Neo-monarchists.

>>8849321
How does that even make sense as a modern political ideology? Like, what are their policies?

>>8849370
Reactionary in general.

>>8849261
Zing.