Does everyone have AGP to a certain degree?

>>8819779
no, why is this even a question.

>>8819779
no
>>8819783
op is an egg who doesn't want to admit she's trans, and wants to believe what she's feeling is what everyone feels

>>8819786
>referring to an AGP fetishist as "she"

You're just giving him what he wants.

>>8819779
AGP is a meme.

>>8819779
Unlikely or even more accurate: Hell no

>>8822196
Hmm, not sure that stand for everyone.

>>8822199
Why?

Yes I think so.
The idea that a man does not feel any sexual arousal/positive emotions from picturing himself or fantasising about being a women is ridiculous.
Obviously it comes with different degrees of strength/size but still.

>>8822243
I'm not being sarcastic here, it's unfathomable to me how the contrary could be true.
Also AGP can be conditioned into a boy, it's not something people don't 'have' and therefore having it doesn't really mean much.

>>8819779
Most men don't have AGP to such a degree that they want to be women. Among the ones who do, most don't have so much that they are dysphoric.

>>8822218
>The idea that a man does not feel any sexual arousal/positive emotions from picturing himself or fantasising about being a women is ridiculous.
I doubt that someone really believes in that.

>>8822253
doesn't the dysphoria from AGP generally increase over time though?

>>8822254
Oh god are you really that stupid?

>>8822262
Well I'm 21 so I certainly fucking hope not, I'm dissatisfied with my body enough now, I don't want dysphoria to add to that list.
>>8822255
That somebody believes it's not normal? Or that somebody believes it is?
>>8822254
You've literally never felt that way? Did you start fantasising about 'fucking the hot straight guys butts' after your first time having sex?

>>8822254
Gay men are less AGP than straight men.

>>8822262
It does.

>>8822206
its a meme cause its fairly common fantasy while transgenders are extremely rare like 100:1 ratio of AGP vs trans

>>8822262
>dysphoria from AGP
not a thing, most people who have AGP never experience dysphoria and have no desire to transition,

>>8822303
>>8822307
Just make wonder, why would "normal male" develop agp in the first place

>>8822307
are the ones that do just trans with agp?

>>8822350
Manga?
I got it after becoming obsessed with ranma 1/2 as a kid.
I also think there's a certain truth to the 'failed male' meme, granted you might not consider those typical of 'normal males'.

It is absolutely unfathomable to me that straight men don't have AGP to some extent. Having grown up with AGP it feels like the most innate and natural thing in the world.

>>8822360
Idk, I have had agp since first wank lol. I was kind of failed when underage, become great achiever and popular guy later in the uni. I mean like straight As, conferences, member of senate, everything.

>>8822373
Ok then, I just say that cause it seems to make sense although it doesn't really fit my own personal experience.
And yeah now that you mention, when I first discovered masturbation as a kid it was by rubbing my inverted penis with my finger which happened before I started reading manga.
Anyone else do this?
Did you feel like your agp ever wane during the period of popularity/success?

>>8822363
Same, been AGP since age 6
I like girls more than guys so why wouldn't I want to be a girl myself?

>>8822381
Never sadly. It is mandatory part of my sexuality. I also always more rub my penis in the begging i was lying and rubbing it to the bed

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>>8819779
I doubt it. If straight men do have agp, it's just for humiliation and the thrill of getting caught.

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>>8822350
why do people project desirable characteristics of others on themselves?
why does emasculation fetish exists?
why do a bunch of women watch yaoi and gay porn and selfinsert as gay bottoms? or have penis envy and imagine what its like to be a man in sex?

>>8822354
it shouldn't be surprising that many transgenders develop AGP, especially if we accept the theory about feminized brain region that is responsible for sexual behavior

>>8822363
I feel kinda similar. I have no idea why anyone would want to be a guy. I'm thankful that someone does though because otherwise I wouldn't have a bf, but the idea of being male just seems like nature being cruel to half of humans.

>>8822583
I wonder if cis women ask themselves the same things about men as we do.

>>8822583
>I feel kinda similar. I have no idea why anyone would want to be a guy.

I thought this was normal until a year or so ago, were you the same?

>>8822583
>>8822699
Why did being male seem so much worse to you?

Why did you think no-one spoke about it and everyone put up with it?

>>8822709
>Why did being male seem so much worse to you?
Not that anon but typical male appearence is ugly. I don't want to look ugly. .

>>8822709
Masculinity in general just feels like it never appealed to me at all. I never understood why someone would willingly go to the gym to make themselves look ugly and trick themselves into saying they liked it.

I thought nobody spoke about it because it was just part of learning to be a man and getting on with it. Men don't talk about their feelings remember :^)

>>8822720
>appearance

>>8822723
Masculinity in what sense? Getting ripped is a specific kind of masculinity.

>>8822196
AGP is still trans, OP is still a girl
Blanchardists like you annoy me because you don't even know what the classification means. It wasn't "two things that look like transsexuality but only one of them actually is", it was "two classifications of transsexuals". AGP and HSTS, even if we're taking them seriously, are both still varieties of transsexuals.

>>8822723
>I thought nobody spoke about it because it was just part of learning to be a man and getting on with it.
Wow, I used to think exactly same way.

>>8822730
>people who believe Blanchard
>people who call OP a male fetishist
Choose one.

>>8822728
masculinity in general really, guess you could just call me a huge beta cuck :^)

>>8822734
I'm glad I'm not the only one that was like that, it certainly makes me feel like less of an idiot anyway.

>>8822758
But beta male is still male, of a kind. It's not a full on rejection of all masculinity like the feelings that lead to identifying as a girl.

>>8822786
i wonder why not all beta males are agp/want to be girls

>>8822800
because the tranny agenda didnt get to them yet digus

>>8822819
>I think the world would be a lot better under a matriarchy.

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>>8822583
>>8822709
Same. I would get envious of the way girls get treated. Women are allowed to be more vulnerable than guys and I basically felt emotionally vulnerable my entire life. I would get envious seeing guys desire girls. I was also always submissive in personality and thankfully I'm a pseudohomosexual but otherwise I think being a submissive guy without being gay is a death sentence.
Unlike some other posters in this thread I see masculity as desirable in my partner but not something I would like in myself. Guys can look cool and also look mature and I'm attracted to it as well as to confidence in my partners.

>>8822853
>I see masculity as desirable in my partner but not something I would like in myself.
this so much

i know how bad being a guy is so i'd try to make it enjoyable for my bf and be the best gf for him.

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>>8822874
>>8822874
I try to be the same, anon. But at the same time this attitude usually lands me with the exact kind of non-confident vulnerable guys that I find unattractive as they tend to get clingy easily when you talk to them about their problems and acknowledge the stuff they have to put through.
Seeing this cycle makes me feel bad. I'm not a transgirl but instead a transition tier femboy on hrt but as silly as it may sound I to a degree feel like I took the easy way out by transitioning essentially. I know I would have a much harder time finding a partner who makes me happy otherwise.
Reworded to make the last part more clear.

>>8822903
you're a femboy who takes hrt? are you sure you're not a closeted transgirl?

>>8822926
What is the difference?

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>>8822926
That's what I meant by transition-tier, anon. Transitioning socially is maybe up for the course in the future but I don't see the need to do it right now. I mean, I'm already putting my effort into looking as femmy as possible except for doing voice training though I will get to that too but being a femboy is a nice excuse for the time being.

>>8822903

Looks like a radio station dial in Europe, Asia, Africa and Australia.

Imagine the radio clock woke you up with 666 MW. Playing a satanic metal song. The lyrics "you're gonna die".

>>8822253
>Most men don't have AGP to such a degree that they want to be women. Among the ones who do, most don't have so much that they are dysphoric.
this is me, but this alone doesn't make someone trans, right?

>>8822709
>4 or 5 years old
Asking mom why girls and guys are diferent. Tried to understand why I'm a guy (as though that's a thing that has a reason). Mostly just really curious, not really dysphoric or anything. Also notice huge differences in male and female sexuality even at that age. Sort of think that the male side is a garbage deal in the whole thing.

>10ish years old
Got into Ranma 1/2 because it was easy to find on the internet. Start thinking about what life would be like as a girl. Sort of hate my family for favoritism towards my sister. Lots of problems in school. Still no sexuality of my own (no crushes or attraction or anything)

>16ish years old
Puberty is ass. No male friends, only female friends. Really ultra jealous and upset that I can never actually fit into a female group. Learn what trans is at 17 and quickly identify with the idea but on the fence about if it's what I want for myself.

>20 years old
No longer on the fence. 10 months hrt.

>>8822819
I have a theory that one of the possible causes for AGP is internalized misandry. I know that it is for at least some people I've seen and I wonder how common it really is.

>>8823368
>misandry
Your assumption is true in my case. I hate most men for being ugly, aggressive and dangerous. Prefer not to deal with at all when possible.

>>8823392
Well I feel somewhat similar. I think that the Y chromosome has more or less outlived its usefulness in our species, and a society absent of it would be better for everyone. But I also love dicc so...

>>8823360
>Sort of hate my family for favoritism towards my sister.
What favoritism?

>>8825693
literally every time something couldn't be split evenly they would give her more. Sometimes they would just give it to her anuway just because. She had her own room and bed I literally slept in the living room on a cot for 2 years.

>>8825735
Wow. How could they be that biased without outright hating you?

The no room or proper bed is especially wtf. How old were you for those two years? Were there no other rooms in the house?

>>8823392
>>8823398
Men created everything good in society.

>>8829779
t misogynist