/gaygen/ - Warcraft lore edition

>>8816621
>playing warcraft

>>8816628
xivfags please go away
those who 'dont play games' go back to playing candy crush

MMO's are shit you faggot

>>8816621
anduin is shit

I actually don't play WOW.

>>8816580
Despite being a messy kisser, he's like a blow job savant. When we were fooling around, I asked him what he wanted and he said he wanted to go down on me. I returned the favor obviously, but it was still cute that that was what popped in his mind.

>>8816621
VARIAN IS DADDY. RIP...

What should I do if I will always be alone?

>>8816621
It's pretty tragic but I probably relate to Illidan best, y'know with the whole societal rejection and seething resentment thing that he has going on.

The Warcraft series was fun, but sadly most of the characters were two dimensional in more ways than one.

>>8816808
>y'know with the whole societal rejection and seething resentment thing that he has going on.
Why do you feel that way?

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>>8816621
>warcraft

You should seriously consider suicide. It's clear that you will spend the entirety of your life alone and unloved.

>>8816817
Just the typical shoddy childhood and still not getting any appreciation or respect from people.

Nothing to write home about really.

I miss my boyfriend

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>>8816621

Can't decide between Zul'jin, Vol'jin, and Cairne. Also Warcraft Goblins are the best.

>>8816875
At least you've had a boyfriend.

No one could ever want to be with me.

>>8817069
you'd be surprised what some people find attractive.
if you want to feel better about yourself, just go to walmart and look at the people with kids.
if they managed to convince someone to breed with them, then there is definitely hope for you!

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AYO FAGS

so what is it?

>>8817122
It's not my hideous scar covered body that's the issue. It's who I am as a person.

I'm a worthless subhuman junkie with no redeeming qualities and I ruin everything around me.

>>8817191
You can still change

>>8817191
Well, I can't argue with that!

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>>8817191

>>8816621

Hey yaoi your editions are fucking trash, hope you enjoy it because it's the last one you will make dearie.

>befriend qt twunky guy
>chipper and outgoing
>also shares a mutual interest in fighting/martial arts
>mostly does grappling and similar stuff
>hang out a few times before I test the waters
>he's receptive
>spend the last couple weeks or so playing cat and mouse
>he's a little shit and has been purposefully teasing me this whole time
>fun because it's been like edging my brain
>despite that I think I'm finally ready to make my move

I want to do something that'll really mess him up as payback for all his shenanigans. Thoughts?

>>8817212
Not really. Even if I quit the dope I'm still a worthless piece of shit and a total parasite. I'm a complete fuck up and failure and fail horribly every time I try to do something because I'm stupid and incompetent. I flunked out of high school, have no money, no job, no employment opportunities or prospects, a criminal record, and basically no way to improve my life at all.

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>tfw my glorious husbandfu was outed as straight and now I have to imagine myself as a stupid gross woman to make him happy in my own retarded pathetic loser fantasies.

>>8816621
fuck off faggot

>>8817332
I saw a video about a guy pinning another, holding him by his wrists. He grinds his junk with the bottom's, and he made fun of the bottom when he felt a hardon.

>>8817420
thats beyond sad

>>8817256

Smartest thing I've read on this site in two weeks.

>>8816621
My favourite wow character is pilav, he's the greatest warrior. He's very strong too. Also 99% sure he's gay.

>>8817530

That would be sdbboy69

https://www.xtube.com/profile/sdbboy69-9009198#activities

Unfortunately he has been MIAfor years now

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>>8816621
Why do people go crazy over pics of guys like this when you don't even how good or bad his personality is?

>>8816621
I played it a bit because a friend did but could never really get into it

>>8817820
Cus he's fit

>>8817820
Because they're shallow retards.

The most attractive part of a guy is his personality. I can't even find pictures of guys attractive without knowing what their personalities like.

Being in a relationship with someone based solely on their physical appearance is fucking retarded.

>>8817810
Nice. I saw it on a different site randomly searching for gay porn.

>>8817350

You're me, just younger.

I wont say it gets better, but after a while you look around and just cant take it seriously anymore. You find a lot of people have it worse.

I "stuck around" for the cheap thrills. Sex, food, laughs. You get nowhere focusing on the negative, nowhere. I'll tell you how you get out of it. You'll see the words but it wont click cuz its not something you learn by reading:

Eventually you just get sick of it. Just plain fucking bored with self loathing, terror of the future. Straight up, outright, fed up disgusted bored as shit with going nowhere. You're self image doesn't change right away. You dont particularly feel any hope. You look around your shit life and notice, guess what, there are a ton of mes out there. Then you realize your problems aren't special. Whether you've succeeded or failed, people tend to live in the bullshit we make up in our heads to explain our situation, because we feel we have to have a story. Then one day you realize the story is pointless. It never had much to do with the reality you were making decisions about.

People feel trapped by their past. Its a huge cosmic joke, the way our human mind insists on making order out of chaos.

You live like it didnt happen and in time, the mind forgets, the story is scrapped like a cheap novel. In reality, it doesnt matter much today how you got here, because every day, rich or poor, we are all starting over. We just dont all know it. We think our success or failure is measured on yesterday. It isnt, and its hilarious if you think about it long enough.

Our mental habits become routines. Sometimes we need to change those. So I dont tell you to cheer up. But every day, you pick up a rock and chip at the wall. Eventually you dont even care whether you knock it down, you just realize its your job, its what you do. And you do it just because deep down, you know you can. Either it comes down or you die trying. At least you get some justice every time you knock at it...

>>8817834
being a good sucker > having a tight boipussy > being fit > good personality

>>8817350
You could always whore yourself out, if you've got the looks.

>>8817850

My desktop on my pc is a simple black background, and in grey letters, it has two sentences. At the top:

"You woke up this morning."

At the bottom:

"You will sleep tonight."

Its to remind me that anything that matters happens in between those two lines. Mourning the past, fretting the future, all pointless. You have to know the difference between a goal, a plan and a vision. A vision is the reason. A plan is a throwaway outline. But the goal, the goal matters, because any real goal is something you can really do today, and when you sleep at night, you can tell yourself "I did that."

Focus, attention, these are important. I have a funny little exercise I do sometimes, sort of a zen ritual.

I will decide to flip a penny over, and then I do it. Now this sounds ridiculously simple and pointless. Its harder than it sounds. Because it is so easy to make such a simple decision and fail to act. We simply forget to want anything or to keep wanting it. You can sit there staring at it, wondering why you are doing it, marveling at how distracted your mind can become.

Its to align a thought with action, to show you can change things around you. When you do it once, its actually hard to not do it again. Suddenly the mind will wake up while you were thinking of the fifty million things that can go wrong in your life that you have no control over. And yet there it is: a flipped penny. You decided to change something around you and did it because you chose to. We do it unconsciously a thousand times a day and never think about it. But when it gets to bigger things like 'how do I find peace? How do I succeed? What do I want?" you'd be surprised how often our mind goes into loops and we just sit there staring at the penny.

You just flip it. The mind snaps out of it and associates the accomplishment of a small wish with all the crap flying through your head about all the big stuff, and it starts to click...

>>8817893

The process, some call it 'getting in state'. Your focus is how you spend your time. If you spend your focus mourning the past and fretting the future, then thats where the days will go. You will accumulate an ungodly amount of memories of all the days you spent mourning the past and fretting the future. And thats what waits for you in the future if you dont stop, a memory of endless mourning. Its a trap, and you have to avoid it.

Hope this helps at all, at least something to add to the playlist of random thoughts. Here, try this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sDkDNiqQyU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wOnAWXr9bw

>>8817820

Visual aesthetics. Its been known for millenia that whatever you call us, homosexuals, we have a built in tendency for narcissism because we are attracted to our own form.

We have, as far as I can tell, a strange form of autoandrophilia. We want to be men even though we already are. We are more inclined as creatures to try to gain validation by seeking intimacy with males instead of actively becoming one. We tend to live our lives in the third person.

So the visual of whatever we consider attractive slightly entrances us. It doesnt matter who the person is as character, we fill that in inside our heads (this is why falling in love is the opposite of knowing the person).

>>8817069

You wont believe me, but a time may come when you'll be glad.

Find a bf, find a few. Its good for you, it really is. But it will hurt in the end, over and over. But yeah, its important to find out yourself.

And I will just submit that after enough, you will still like men, but you will have had enough of the 'bf' bit. Its ok to like and appreciate having someone to love. But its problematic if you *need* one. The one thing you dont want, that is dangerous, is when you feel you need the validation of one man to feel good about yourself. You need to wake up with that regardless of who is or isnt next to you. Otherwise every thing you do will be decided on someone else.

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>>8817332

>caught a twunk interested in fighting/martial arts

Teach me senpai.

>he wants to get "serious"
>after just 2 weeks
what does that means? marriage? adopting doggos? matching clothes??
He's younger than me, more mature & experienced too: I like him desu and I like how he's serious (and slutty in bed), and I don't mind that he's a bit clingy and care a lot about me, but I fear that he might be hurt by a certain lack of love from my part (also, I'm not even out…).
Is that normal in relationships that 2 partners don't love each other in the same way?

>>8817945
25-30yo chill guys seem like a good compromise

>>8817972
>Is that normal in relationships that 2 partners don't love each other in the same way?
Well they are different people for starters. I think the whole fun is learning about the other person and loving him in your own style.

>>8817945
So... w-why don't you tell us a bit about yourself?

>>8817850
>You find a lot of people have it worse.

Here's the problem with your little pep talk, what if I do have it worse than anyone else I've come across.

Only reason I ain't homeless is because of crime, gainful employment isn't an option with my combination of mental illness, criminal record, and complete lack of education.

I'm a parasite and I can't be anything else.

>>8818077

>your little pep talk

I wasnt trying to stoke optimism. I was conveying objective facts. If you spend every day focusing on self pity, you will have spent your life on self pity. Its math.

I told you that you wouldnt learn anything from just reading it. The reason you haven't come across the people who have it worse is because you are fortunate- so far- to not be forced into their environment or proximity. Or you are so focused on your misery that you dont notice when you are and they are just ghosts in your background.

I need these reminders that this site is a waste of time, so I should expect time I spend on it ever trying to help to be nothing different. Hopefully, you have aided in reinforcing my loose recognition of this so that I eventually just recognize the pointlessness of it and stop wasting my time also. Thank you.

As for you, where there is medicine, you wont take it. Thus far, dope isn't your most pernicious addiction. Self pity is. And only you can correct that. There is no visible evidence at this point that you wish to. You like complaining about it online, you like fetching (You)s. But actually doing anything about it would require the work of confronting reality with the mental courage to take the challenge that is your own existence.

You dont have it because you dont want it. Whether its you or me, when you pare away excuses, we all get what we really want from whats available. You are content with this. When you are sick of it, you will make new decisions.

Until then, its all just idle discussion. Good day.

Best character is obviously Garage heckscream but unfortunately Blizzard can't write their way out of a paper bag so we had to kill him while the undead queen of genocide and betrayal gets to lead the horde????

Also >playing wow in 2017

>>8817972

Love is a verb also. If you are not ready to do it, its not fair to con him into thinking you want to.

Love is something you do. More accurately, there is no love, only the feeling you get from doing the actual little things. People dont buy pets because they want to support some random animals existence. They want to care for it and share its company, and feel a little appreciated when they do.

Most people dont keep pets. Maybe you're one of them. It doesnt make you a bad person at all. It just means your approach to interacting with humanity is more competitive than nurturing. Thats not bad, it just isnt a conducive premise to start seeking relationships.

Perhaps you just want sex and/or security/stability. People seek relationships and do their best to imitate love for those reasons often. It just has a quicker expiration date, because the other person expecting to be loved eventually figures it out.

Successful relationshipmakers of /gaygen/, I need your help.
Going back to university in just under a month and I'm sick of being single. Where do you meet gay guys other than LGBT clubs (which I always found were full of twinky queens and slutty faggots) and how do you know if they're gay before asking them out?

Lost my virginity this week to long time bf

I feel really emotional and miss my boyfriend

Bottom btw
Does bareback loaded semen affect the mood?

>>8818355
Why do you miss him? Has he gone somewhere for a while or did you break up shortly after the virginity loss?
Sex, especially with insemination, releases a bunch of oxytocin and endorphins, which make you fall more deeply in love with whoever you did it with.

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>>8818287

If you want a boyfriend type relationship, you are rather stuck in the gay world with all its commercialized, politicized, media concocted tropes, venues and trending fads. Thats what being out is: herding towards a shared identity. You practice ritualized exclusion from everyone who is not gay whether that is intended or not.

So naturally, your options will be limited to those outlets the industry produces.

If you are looking for sex, as most people seem reluctant to admit, then you have other options. They are trickier to navigate and require some dedication to 'game' and appreciation for it, but the rewards are richer. A bit more like a treasure hunt than shopping for a man online.

And lets get it out there before the head-cases chime in: people who make the effort to hunt treasure get berated by the lazier gays who have to settle for each other and think passion is something they are entitled to by exposing themselves publicly and then proceed to passive-aggressively flip through men like they are shopping for jackets in a Neiman Marcus catalog, yet have the moral audacity to claim people who are more successful while being subtle are sluts because their success rate is higher and baggage is lesser.

>>8818390
It's just we went in a trip together and are in a medium distance relationship

Spent a week together and started to miss him as soon as we went on our different ways

>>8818287

Also, you stated that you wanted a bf yet implied you want to know if they are gay before asking them out.

This suggests that you dont want to reveal yourself or simply approach openly 'gay' men or just ask them.

This has other implications, all of which suggest some paradoxes and are disadvantageous.

>>8817530
Something mildly similar to that already happened only it was reversed.

>he doesn't know much about boxing/some of the other shit I do
>I don't know much about grappling/holds/throws
>sometimes when we hang out we show each other
>nothing too painful or like full-on punches but the carpet in my shitty apartment is thick and we can take most anything else
>he's trying some new shit he learned on me
>next thing I know I'm on the floor on my back and his legs are squeezing me like a fucking vice
>grinds his ass on me very purposefully a few times before getting up and asking me what I want to order for food like nothing fucking happened

He's a little shit and is absolutely teasing me like this to see how long I can hold out. But I feel like I've waited a respectful interval by now. I could probably turn the tables on him pretty easily since I'm taller and outweigh him by a few good pounds.

>>8817946
Believe me I was just as surprised as you are when I found out we had that in common. When he invited me to see a demonstration of his, it was more than a little arousing.

Now we practice together a lot as well as work out/go on runs/etc. It's great to have someone I share a lot of common interests with.

>>8818455

Are you certain he's into you? I mean I used to do shit like this with my friends, most of whom were straight.

>>8818400
So... if I don't like the stereotypes, I'm fucked?
Wellfuck...

>>8818429
I'm happy being the first out; I'm already open about it in uni. Just not sure how to let anyone I'm interested in know I'm gay without coming on too strong. Contrary to the other anon, I refuse to act like a stereotype and continue to maintain relations with heterosexuals despite being out (though this does mean I have a tally of how many times people have forgotten I am gay: 23 and counting).

>>8818402
Nightly video calls, body pillows, and any deoderants or other fragrances he uses. Works almost every time.

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>>8818455

Wait, Im confused. Are you out? Is he straight? These details matter.

Oddly, I am atm writing a case study of a particularly difficult subject, a sexually frustrated, somewhat self deluding heterosexual who has very similar behavior. Its not that he is same-sex curious, not consciously at least, but rather- as frustrated hetero men will- is exhibiting massive (presumably) unconscious same-sex 'ticks'. Its something rutting hetero males do when they go through protracted pussy droughts. They dont become attracted to males, they just want to get laid and as their drive goes on longer unfulfilled, they start unconsciously signalling a desire for physical release towards anything that moves.

The problem in this case is that straight males, especially the /fit/ variety often see men as attractive but not sexually. Also, many males who rigidly discipline their minds to identify as heterosexual therefore react to more masculine men as mentors where others would see competition. The result is a latent desire for validation by such men that ironically can be expressed sexually even though they are sexually into men, a sort of male worship.

The paradox is that while they are even more rigidly heterosexual than others by mental discipline and habit, they nonetheless are more comfortable in a passive role where they feel validated rather than seeking to dominate. It creates some serious head-cases.

At the risk of elaborating too much, this is a scenario where propositions directly to sex are less likely to succeed from a passive approach. Instead, you have to navigate indirectly to earn trust and move laterally through a series of topics that pass thru homosexual themes without actually discussing homosexuality, and then back again. "Inception".

It sounds like you may "have to go deeper" if this is the case.

I should re-watch that movie. It has some great themes on human psyche and suggestion.

>>8818466
I think I'm old enough to figure out when someone's coming onto me. We both know the other's attracted to men and make comments to each other and touch each other in ways that are unmistakably non-platonic. We just haven't done anything beyond that yet because he's a damn tease but I like it. Besides, once I flipped him and pinned him because he was being a little shit and it definitely turned him on. His pupils even dilated a little bit. It was cute. I was able to get away with kissing his forehead then, but that's about as far as we've gotten.

I think his resolve is wearing down, though. He's been upping his game lately. It'd be satisfying to get him to break before I do, but I doubt it'll happen.

>>8818551
>He's been upping his game lately

How so? I'm going to need more details anon?

>>8817820

Because he's hot.

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>>8818492

>I'm happy being the first out

Oh, well then its not such a problem. Use the straight herd. they are useful for this. Casually work conversations with gossips towards mentioning you are gay with some entertaining anecdote, then wait for the word to get around. Make sure they are chatty and socially fluent, and repeat with a few of them to expedite results. Dont get too friendly with them and limit exposure, as these types tend to be insufferably shallow.

Mind you, you will want to focus primarily on girls because they talk the most, are less shy about the subject and will relate it to boys so you dont have to as a way of trading gossip and testing the men themselves. With males, its less successful because the only ones who want to broach it are the whackos with repressed feelings that need to mock others.

Make yourself available socially with a positive, unflappable confidence and see what begins to orbit you, as well as quick meet&greets just to get vibes, scanning for expression, eye contact, tone etc, though not necessarily in open view. It will give you a sense of the field you are playing on and what the team is bringing.

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>"do what you love, the money will follow"
>did what I loved (art), now live in a shitty old apartment where my parents help me with rent
>currently going back to school for an IT degree
>will hopefully have a real career with a legit income after grad, but stuck here for at least 2 more years
>..next door neighbor just moved out..
>be this morning
>sitting on couch barely awake taking first sip of glorious coffee
>notice tiny baby roach crawl out from under my coaster sitting on my nice wicker basket/coffee table
>lift coaster up
>horror scene of a fucking roach egg sack with a dozen baby roaches all running around
>they scuttle into the wicker basket
>fully awake now
>move everything off it and throw it hard on the floor to knock them out so I can squash them
>a fucking horde of roaches of all shapes and sizes are knocked loose and flee in all directions on my clean hardwood floor
>kill as many as I can
>just picked another baby one out of my leg hair as I was typing this

I'm not going to make it.

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>>8818551

Oh. Well then you are just being overly cautious and need to knock that off, it isnt good for you.

My dear boy, the question isnt whether you want to sleep with each other. Its how you will feel waking up next to each other.

The sex question is already resolved, and perhaps you know that. Perhaps what has you apprehensive is potential relationship aftermath, and it should, because sex with familiar people and without a declaration of intentions afterwards can be a real mine field.

If you want sex, move ahead. If you are wary about a relationship, tread lightly. The bomb is already armed. Its just a matter of where you wanna land when it goes off.

>>8816621

So I normally wear boxers but my bf is pretty intent on me switching to briefs, for whatever reason. Is this something a lot of gay/bi dudes are into or does my bf just have a strange preference?

>>8818549
Like I said, we're both out and we're both aware of the other's preferences.

Also the situation you described was the story of my life for me in high school when it came to some of my friends. Confused the fuck out of me to no end.

This whole game started when we were flirting over text. He joked that he thought I'd have better self control and I told him my self control is excellent to which he responded "We'll see. :)" and since then he's been teasing the shit out of me to get me to crack.

>>8818562
He's initiating touches a lot more and getting more blatant when he does. We spoon/cuddle a lot when we're alone together--especially if we're watching something or going to sleep--and his hands have gone under my clothes a few times. He's gotten way more affectionate in general, really. The amount of suggestive stuff he says and does seems to be increasing, too.

That and he just sent me a selfie "showing off" his new compression pants when he knows damn well how I think he looks in them.

>>8818586

Ah, an artist. Nothing wrong with that. There is truth in your first statement.

But....

as with all arts, music, writing, the actual product is not the moving sales force.

Its a social matter, who you know, are connected to, networking, diversity of outlet potentials. You cant decide what the product is until you know what the local market wants. Thats not only the art, but the type of artist.

Its not easy and ridiculously competitive because so many people are trying to make it. Dull shut ins never will. You have to have a life story to go with it (makes no damn difference if its true or not as long as its believable).

And it is work. One has to be able to produce constantly and find time to do the sales aspect socially (or find an agent of course).

You can do both IT and art. One is a vocation, the other more a livelihood. But you have to make some decisions about what you really want. And there is no shame in wanting to pay the rent cleaning floors until your art situation is sorted out. In such fields, nothing really fails as long as you are viciously persistent.

You havent lost anything, so you are doing well. Ive met enough starving artists to know you're doing better than you think.

You have a gift for anecdotes. You can use that.

>>8816621

I'm curious, what does /gaygen/ do for a living? If you're a student, just go with what you study or plan to major in.

>>8818715
Medical student. It's going well so far and I plan to do a PhD on top of the medical degree + BA.

>>8818628

So wait, i'm confused. Do you want to have him fuck you or do you want to fuck him?

>>8818715

I study law.

>>8818734
I study poo

coprologist

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>>8818455

I am so fucking jealous. This gives me motivation to work out so maybe I can meet a spunky muscular manlet of my own for banter and cuddling.

>>8818715
I work at a gym. I'm interested in physical therapy and nutrition.

>>8818605
Nah, I'm not cautious at all. Really what it boils down to is he's trying to make me crack by teasing me and I tease him right back by not giving in and occasionally flipping the tables on him. I know we're going to have sex eventually and we've done a few date-ish things together. Ultimately I want a relationship with him, we just haven't sealed the deal yet.

Even still, there's something to be said about taking our time and letting things build. It's kind of comfy in a way even if we're constantly blue balling each other.

>>8818731
Obviously, I'm not interested in being on the bottom. He's just trying his best to get me to jump him and I'm holding off to prove a point. Pretty sure the compression pants picture was the last straw though. If you'd seen his legs and ass you'd understand.

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>>8817820
Because I can't put my dick in a nice personality.

>>8818760
>If you'd seen his legs and ass you'd understand.
Post it

>>8818790
I'm not a creeper who posts people's pictures on a website without their permission. Also I'm a greedy asshole and I don't share. Use the depravity of your own imagination.

I think I may have succeeded in riling him up, though.

do you think feet are cute

>>8818760

>Obviously, I'm not interested in being on the bottom.

What happens if he want's you to bottom? Let's say, for instance, he pins you down against the ground. Your entire body is placated due to exhaustion. He then slowly whispers into your ear about how he is going to fuck you. What's your backup plan?

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>>8817820
Why do pre-teen girls go crazy over jake paul and even defend his shit personalty.

Young people are naive and not mature enough to see past the shallow surface. When your life-span and experience is relatively short and tiny you understand and focus more on short-term goals and instant gratification, the older you get and the more you see the results the "stupid" and "pointless" effort you put into having long-term goals (ie education) and delayed gratification (ie working for a paycheck) paying off, the more value you place in it. And the more negative experiences/consequences you, or your peers, have with instant gratification and shallow stupidity, the less naive you become and the less attractive that sort of thing becomes.

When young people look at a picture of a hot guy, all they think about and experience is the shallow sensual reaction of hormones. When a more mature and experienced person looks at it, they still find them physically attractive, but that feeling is not valued anywhere near as much as the understanding that the looks are not a worth it if the personality is garbage because a garbage personality will ruin any hope for having a good time with them, regardless of how hot they are.

>>8818813
It's cool. Enjoy your pancake bf.

>>8817946
Cars 3 looks wierd doesn't it?

>>8818818
Generally, no.

>>8818837
I doubt very seriously that that's going to happen based on what he's hinted at so far. But if he can beat me to the point of exhaustion I guess he's earned it.

>>8818876
Nice try trying to use reverse psychology. But the point is that he texted the picture to me and it'd be a dick move to share it with anyone else.

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>>8818919

>your sparring buddy will never send you lewd selfies in compression shorts

I hate you, you made my boner cry.

>>8818919

What hints? From what you've written so far, it sounds as he is pretty confident you're going on the bottom.

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>>8818760

So you dont actually have a problem. You just wanted to announce your crush and phrased it as a complaint to invite attention to it.

>poor me, whatever will I do about my hot twink and I flirting towards inevitable sex?


Got it.

>>8817983
right, we have different ways to care about each other: he is very caring & vocal about what he feels about me, while I'm quite introverted and overall careful about everything. But the more I know him, the more I like him: it takes more time for me, that's all.

>>8818143
really made me think...
> its not fair to con him into thinking you want to
Frankly it's my main concern. I don't want to hurt him because he's really nice and sweet and generous, but as long as I'm clear about what I feel about him, I don't see how it can hurt him. Sex is fun, we share hobbies (he's into sports and hiking, 2 things I have always wanted to get into), I bring him stability/security (we both believe in monogamy). And I'd happy to come out to my family and friends with such a nice bf.
In some ways, I use him, but I care about him too. I'm just not as passionate as expected.

>>8818402
>started to miss him as soon as we went on our different ways
IKTF
send each other nudes pics ;))

>>8818925
You'll find one some day.

>>8818940
Comments he's made about prior relationships and the fact that he keeps rubbing his ass on my dick, mostly. They're hints like anvils are paperweights, I guess. But like I said, if he can beat me I guess he's earned it.

>>8818943
I thought it was pretty clear in my original post that I was asking for advice for how to best exact my revenge when I made my move. That's literally the only problem I have. I can't seem to think up something that's adequate payback for him being a little shit.

>ex unfollowed me on IG
>blocked him
am I doing the right thing?

>>8818960

If he veers towards the more submissive side, just play around with him a bit. When you pin him down, have him blow you before fucking him. Whilst fucking him, stop him from touching himself. Let him know that the only way he is going to cum is via you. Just try and make the sex as humiliating as possible for him. Is there any kinks you've wanted to try?

>>8816621
>Who is your favorite Warcraft character?

Nerif, the Oracle

>>8818876
>pancake bf
What's a pancake bf?

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mfw i'll have an orchidectomy in 3 weeks and I'm not even a tranny...
Guys, check your balls RIGHT NOW, testicle cancer is not a meme: one of the possible issue is the impossibility to cum after surgery yayyyyyy

>>8819055
boo hoo, transition already.

>>8819042
With a flat ass, like a pancake

>>8817820
On one hand I know that for a long term relationship there is nothing that beats a good personality and kind disposition, on the other the ease at which guys like that get laid and the way people worship them fills me with hate and envy. So I'd murder him gently. *sorreeeeeeeeeeeeeeee*

>tfw no bf to reverse your PE32

>>8819114
I prefer ELF, also Win32 API is a clusterfuck

>>8819180
but all the maleware is PE.

>>8819068
You are retarded.

>>8818983
I don't really want to degrade him in that sense, but I definitely like the idea of teasing the shit out of him. The few times I've pinned him down he's definitely seemed to like it. In hindsight, I think that's what he's been trying to get me to do.

I do think overstimulating people is pretty great, though. It might be cute to see him like that. He's pretty flexible too so that might be fun.

why cant i get even a hookup? Wtf is this? Im not antisocial, im not uglier than most people out there, dont have especially high stakes for men (I just dont want faggy skinny or extremely ugly boys) and thats it. How do I get over the anxiety of actually flirting with other boys? How the fuck do I flirt anyway? Oh my god. Ive had a pretty girl once say she would date me if I wasnt gay, so I guess Im not that unnattractive.
Like, if I go to a gay bar, what do I do then? Just talk to people like a fucking psycho creep? Plus I dont have gay friends

>>8819055
On the other hand if you lose the ability to cum you can masturbate almost anywhere without making a mess, just think about it

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>>8819071

Well, I for one enjoy pancakes.

>>8817420
>now I have to imagine myself as a stupid gross woman to make him happy
sounds like high schol to me

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>>8819548

Well, I can tell the first issue is confidence. You need some, and then only once you have it, can you practice Game.

Theres internal stuff we could clean up. But thats work and I charge by the (You). [This one is free with a lagniappe picture of a movie reference for every new client.]

But instead, I am more a fan of behavioral conditioning than cognitive dissection.

As such FOR FREE, I will suggest the following.

Find a neighboring town with some halfway decent gay scene. You might not actually have to go there, but rather go through an app, although Im rather opposed to apps. You wouldn't use it as a dating device, but rather to check out what is around a distant area.

Then, depending on your role preference, get some slut-wear. This assumes you are looking for a hook up. If you cant hook up well, you're simply going to damage yourself with a bunch of 'no bf' shenanigans. One must walk before they can run.

Next, I prescribe whiskey, Jameson seems to work for me. Mixed cocktails go down too easily and you can over do it. Weed isnt bad either once you are halfway there, but you dont want to start with it if its your first run.

This should calm your nerves a bit and then you befriend someone there with small talk. Keep it short; you dont want to linger on some cold fish. You arent going to hit on him of course; this useless wall flower is to keep you from looking alone. Laugh at his jokes and once he feels comfortable, start checking out guys together, wishing him good luck as sportsmanship. Find a third to keep this useless cunt busy in conversation so he doesnt back-bite the second you ditch him after eye flirting with someone. Now you have an ad hoc crew as back drop.

Then you slut. The object isnt to get laid on the first try. You are simply pitching game for its own sake to get used to rejection. Perhaps you get lucky and thats fine, but we are seeking the long game and for now, you have to get used to rejection.

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hehe me on the right ;-)))))))

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>>8819635

This is costing me more than one (You) so I have to wrap this up.

The point is that you have to develop these skills and it takes time. Remember, you have nothing to fear but remember to search and fill in quote here blah blah.

When its all said and done, you'll experience many of the same joys I've had, waking up with a sore ass and soiled undewear in some parking lot at 6am on a Sunday, smelling of incense and love lube with vague spinning memories of trying to escape a limousine full of coked up Arab businessmen, wiping some unknown flaky crust from your face and wondering why your phone is full of texts from someone named Lavell demanding his money.

You too can share this dream, but it has to start with confidence.

Also, in the absence of a gay club, you can also hang around hotel parking lots in twink-wear at night and simply eye-flirt your way to success, or truck stops if your drink budget dwindles.

Best of luck,
Your friend,
Anon

Paypal, Visa and Google Wallet Accepted ®

>>8819635
>>8819704
please, can you have a tripname, I need to filter your sanctimonious pompous replies and your verbose prose

>>8819183
Why reverse it when you can make it? God I miss the old opensc

>>8818964
no

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Hey gaygen
Me n bae recorded a song for you
Rate?

https://vocaroo.com/i/s0cYX3a0apiK

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>tfw asking a question and your friend responds by not answering it so you jokingly double down on asking the question again in a jokingly manner only it comes across as super needy
Fuck now I'm all paranoid and shit that they'll distance themselves from me because of how needy i sound. they still haven't replied

How's it going, gaygen?

>>8820323
almost as unappealing as that nose ring

>>8820405
This. I get it that us gays need a way to differentiate from the straights, but this nose ring just screams bad taste.

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I want to be fem husbandos with Anduin

>>8820386
Chillin. Just got home and about to cook up some tendies.

I feel a generalized existential angst so I'm going to numb it with food.

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Where do you stand, Gay Gene?

>>8820324
yup you definitely come across as super needy

>>8820429


That honesty is attractive.

>>8820456


No "gay face"? How does Dad bod fit into the Twink Venn, or am I misreading it?

I seem to notice a lot of our ridiculous euphemistic niches missing, like 'silver fox' which translates to 'really damn old' in the Straight tongue.

>>8820456
I started out as a twink, had a twunky phase in my early twenties, and then got progressively cubbier as the years took their toll.

>>8820466
Dad bod is in the Twink and Chub ovals

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>tfw I have the "gay lisp"

>>8820411
>I get it that us gays need a way to differentiate from the straights
lol, I just dress in normal clothes

>>8820502
Gay lisp is cute though

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>>8820495

I saw them both, I just didnt associate dad-bod with twinks.

>>8820502

Its okay, I have just a little one too. It helps tell people without telling them. I also have this thing where I 'femme' up when Im around a hot straighty I like. It makes the secure ones feel in control and the insecure ones snarl with contempt. I study them, their ways. And there always seems to be more to learn.

>>8820323

qts

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>tfw you still can't grasp the reality of you finally losing your virginity and having a boyfriend

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Who wants to read yaoi with me?

>>8816669
RIP in pieces, Daddy Wrynn.

>>8816652
Explain.

>>8820426
Good taste Anon.

>>8819022
Hey, that's a DOTA character, not Warcraft!

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>>8819742

You're only mad because
>pic related

Hey i posted in the last two gaygen about me and my bf looking for a threesome.

>Find qt that wants to hang out
>He ends up being an amazing person
>We all get along so well and are laughing
>Just sit and talk til like 1am
>"Hey you wanna go make out with us?"
>"Yeah im cool with that man"
>All 3 of us sit in the backseat making out, heavy petting
>There's this moment where my bf is kissing his neck and im making out with him
>Grabbing each others cocks
>Get lightheaded from all the making out
>Look at the clock it's 4:30 in the morning
>"We should meet up again sometime"

Now we've met up a couple more times and are seriously considering including him in our relationship. I know you guys talk about monogamy and wanting to be with one person otherwise youre just a big slut/enjoy your aids. But you dont know til you experience it, being so in love with one person and the two of you sharing that love with someone else.

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>>8820562
>tfw I will never

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Is it morally wrong to use my gay telepathy to fry a straight guys brain after he rejects me?

As you know, the heterosexual cerebral cortex consumes 20% of their total sugar intake and a whopping 25% of the total oxygen.

So I figure the superior queer brain uses at least twice that, probably more in my case. I'm very smart, as you probably already gathered.

A hetero has detected that I have crush on him. The problem is we are around each other too much.

To the amateur, this may seem like a good thing, the idea being that I have more time to use my Jedi fag mind voodoo on him, but not the case. You see, the male hetero brain percieves constant signals, whether you intend them or not, as an attempt to force a decision and will resist. The key is inception. You lay the seeds for him to imagine what he might do, and then disappear, giving their mind time to naturally cycle and process the possibility. They are not receptive to snap decisions when they didn't initiate. You do this a few times, let them think they are moving the pieces forward until they have the nerve to make a decision.

In this case, we are around each other constantly and so my mere presence seems like a reminder and pressure. He has decided to alleviate this by being an endless flirt.

So, he is too much work, I've decided. And now I must use my homotelepathy to break his mind for spite.

Suggestions? Usually I plant some insecurity real subtle-like, get them to question their appeal as a man, get them on defense trying to seek validation, then pretend I never insinuated any criticism until they are doubting their own intuition. Eventually they become infantilized, mere gelatinous goo to shape however I choose.

I could use the ol' pulsing psycho-sonic burst to fry his amygdala, but that would be too obvious-

SILENCE! -I think he can hear me thinking as I write. They are like dogs. They cant understand words, but they sense tonal imagery, the beasts

>>8820599
Anything can be done to straighties. They aren't human.

>>8820502
Stop talking with a lisp then.

>>8817184
What is it what? My personal type or my favorite type?

>>8817820
Because male sexuality is mainly visual.

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>>8820768
I sound worse when trying to talk normal

>>8820456
100% twink, my body is not very manly

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tfw bfs libido is like a fourth of yours
wat do

>>8820916
keep him in a chastity/orgasm denial/teasing routine, he'll be hard and horny all the time.

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>>8820916

Ive been on both sides of that. There is only one solution:

Clothes on the lawn
Empty the bank account
Out them to their parents
Start an AIDS rumor
Revenge porn

But then thats my solution to everything.

>>8820997
that'd just upset both of us really
and desu im the one with the submission fetishes

>>8820998
what if i actually care about them tho

>>8821024
Well then tell him to practice some self control, you don't have to be the one denying him, but if he goes a few days without orgasming while still having sex, his libido will obviously increase.

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>>8821024
>what if i actually care about them tho

Oh. Well, I have no idea about that. Feed them treats?

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Reminder to you bottoms

>>8821047
maybe
that just sounds like torturing him tho :(

>>8821072
This pic explained microchimerism to me.

>guy from Tinder stopped responding
Delete this

>>8821108
Spanking someone that doesn't like it is torture, spanking someone that likes it is just having fun. The difference is the context.

Besides it feels really good, I do it sometimes myself and it feels really really good, the feeling of pleasure you get from sex gets amped up to 11 by every day you did not orgasm, and it just keeps increasing and increasing and increasing. After a few days it's way more intense than anything but a full blown prostate orgasm and even then it lasts much longer.

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>>8821147
well ill give it a shot, thanks anon
have this snek

>>8821152

is good snek

>>8820597
this
this is a good post with a good pepe to both whom i can relate emotionally

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>really dig military aesthetics, camo pants, wife beaters, combat boots and everything else Taxi Driver
>everyone else hates that stuff and thinks it's autistic
wew

>>8821072
>sissy stuff

Nigga pls. Take that to mtfgen

>>8821326
All bottoms are going to get turned and there's nothing you can do about it

>>8821274
>everyone else
bullshit
if you have a niche interest then you have to put a little more effort into finding people who share it
going "boo hoo no one likes what I like" and making excuses is boring and pointless because no one fucking cares if you're too lazy and entitled to get off your ass and make yourself happy

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>>8821326

I searched a little on it. Apparently its been verified for female brains. There is scant research, it seems, on gay males.

Maybe its wishful thinking, but I do have a fairly good education in neurophysiology, endocrinology and lesser education in reproduction. But this is just the internet, so dont take me too seriously:

There is something to that pic. I wouldn't be comfortable saying it 'feminizes' males because 'feminizing' isnt a solid scientific term and could be interpreted many ways, and not physically.

That said, it would stand to reason that NGF would have *some* effect, whatever you want to call it, but I couldn't say what it is or in what measure and where.

There very well could be hormonal pathways triggered that would have some measure of psychological effect, which I admit is a bit titillating. There is a lot of misunderstanding about what exactly the difference is between male and female chemistry. A lot of it is conditioned through development and in certain stages, most stages, isnt so different as people seem to think and in fact mimic each other in early and later stages of life.

I dont want to go into too much detail here because 1. It bores most people and 2. This is the sort of place where some things could start arguments, and idw that.

So I cant say the difference would be noticeable, but it seems illogical to suggest it couldn't find some metric to measure or observe either. Technically it has to have some effect, but it would be open to interpretation as to whether or not it is noticeable rather than measurable. Hormones do play a big part of gender typed psychology, but thats sort of the point; we're the ones that typify it. Whether or not preconceptions of it are valid or not is another topic entirely, and I'd rather avoid it here.

>>8821373

Thats a bit harsh, but if you pare away the perturbed tone, the rest is very good advice.

>>8820595
Subs pretty awesome to me. One bf is good, two bfs sounds great.

>>8821414
I think the research done was also with women getting semen vaginally, not anally. I'm also not sure how much you can count in hormone levels changing because of the hormones in semen, or the psychosomatic aspects of the act.

>>8821345

Nigga I'm a bottom and I won't turn into a tranny you fucking retard.

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Stumbled upon this guys photo and my heart dropped. Have you ever seen a 10/10 before?

>>8821854
I give him an eight.
He does look good on his knees though.

>>8821854
Too skinny.
Blond facial hair is literally the definition of retarded.
Can't see if he has full lips.
Nice eyes, nose and hair though.
He's nothing remarkable in England desu.

>>8821854
10/10s are subjective and yes I have seen some before.

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is only me? or are bi guys way chiller with their masculinity than gay guys?

i mean, gay guys can be very insecure about their own masculinity, bi guys can be feminine or masculine but unlike gay guys they don't have problems with masculinity, many gay gus are obsessed with being "100% masculine gay macho man", others are resentful at masculinity and masculine gay/bi men, but bisexuals are usually pretty chill about it, no obsessed, resentful, hating or worshipping masculinity, just being yourself, that can be masculine or feminine.

some lesbians have problems with femininity, but like bisexuals they are usually way chiller with it unlike gay guys that have a weird relationship with it,, worship it or hate it.

>>8820456
>no Auschwitz mode
:(((

>>8816671
Erp in goldshire on moonguard
I like to yiff human boys on my panda femboy

>>8821854
Not really, guys are just attractive or not to me
He's purdy though
Who is he?

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>>8822004
It's subjective what you define as masculine/feminine. There was a discussion here before about holding hands whether it's masc/fem. But generally, gay men are attracted to men, who are masculine. I personally don't find femininity attractive, and I don't want to look/act like one.

Also, my ex is bi, and he hates gay fems/trannies. One time, he asked me so we could sit somewhere else, because a gay fem sat next to him in a train. There were no other seats and we ended up standing next to the door. I don't mind; I just found it amusing. He'd rather stand up than to be next to a fem.

>>8822210
Nah. He's hot and everyone likes him, even the fems during college and at work. He acts civil around fems even though he's disgusted by them.

>>8822241
>I know more about your ex than you
lol

He's masc as fuck. He also had a gf for a year or two before we became a couple. He acts civil around fems, and so are the people around you. Or they just don't want to add more years in their sentence.

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I love that I'm gay now

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>>8821854

He does have great aesthetics. I was admiring those facial proportions around the eyes and cheek bones. The expression makes the rest a bit difficult to really see. Blondish hair looks great when its back lit.

Come to think of it, Anon, I cant remember the last time I saw a real 10 IRL. You see great bodies everywhere, but its been a while since I saw that '10' face on a guy, which you normally only really notice if its on a good body also.

I dont know about the rest of you, but I really do appreciate the male form. I know Im biased on many levels, but to me, a devotee of the old school, Greece, the male body is gods art work, literally poetry in motion. Not just the highly fit, but the humble every day male body too.

I actually have trouble seeing 10s sexually, oddly enough, You get that feeling, where the heart actually thumps, you gasp a little, its an amazing physical effect just from something you see. I cant feel sexual towards them because Im so breath-taken by the beauty.

Here is someone who was a true god in his day. To me, if you hit your ideal at least once in your youth, you stay a god forever, even as you age, because so many guys age and never even try to hit that mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnpt7han0SE

The pic is real, he did at least one nude layout for a mag when he was around 20

>>8821854
>Have you ever seen a 10/10 before?
Yeah I have. He said "Hi" at the apartment buildings hallway. I bet he's straight tho.

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>>8822151
>It's subjective what you define as masculine/feminine

Is that really true though? The concepts are established by consensus. If you decide they are subjective, then they become meaningless, and it becomes a way of trying to use a word to support simply what you think and like. It would be like trying to equivocate about what is or isnt Christian values. Either they are or they aren't. You can have gradients and disagreement. But when you seek to redefine the concepts themselves, you are basically trying to hijack the language to suit your own views.

For example, even if I say big muscles are masculine, its still only just my opinion. It just happens to coincide with consensus. That I agree with it or not does not make it a true statement. If I say instead that it is considered masculine to have big muscles, then it becomes a true statement because it is an observable fact, and I have removed my opinion as some authority. Its one thing as a casual comment. But one has to be careful to not assume authority in changing concepts we've already established. We just dont have that authority as individuals.

Now to be fair, one could say its another version of 'no true Scotsman'. Thats fair. But at some point, you have to decide just what the heck a true Scotsman is before you can say what it isn't.

This pic is subjective. I find it incredibly masculine, because it shows a young male in nature showing his range of motion in sheer exuberance, seemingly unaware of how his shape and color blend into the rural natural landscape around him, simply lost in some internal joy of the moment. He becomes part of nature itself in this pic, and its sheer male exuberance immersed in the world that created him.

Most probably wouldn't see it that way, but they might feel something from it nonetheless. We can differ on what we see as masculine, but I dont think we can simply decide as individuals what the term itself means.

>>8822210
>threatened by an effeminate man
More like annoyed, 90% of traps and fems are just nympho psychos anyways

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>>8822522
>being this butthurt

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>>8822522
no truer words has been said

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Here's a question I've never heard asked. It only occurs to me because I've used the phrase numerous times and just now realized that I can't quickly explain what I mean by it.

So here's the question:

What does it mean to you, what is meant when someone says someone is or isn't 'secure in their masculinity'?

I'd like to know what it means to people, see where there is any convergence.

If the term 'masculinity' is fluid, then what does it mean to be 'secure' in it?

>>8822614
Being secure in your masculinity originally meant that you werent worried about doing things that would be seen as gay or feminine because you were secure mentally of the fact you are a man.
Such things that insecure guys wouldnt do
>draw a penis
>go into a womans clothes store alone (even for buying their gf a present)
>spend too long touching or being around phallic objects
>body shaving
Off the top of my head

>>8822614
I think "secure in their masculinity" is the opposite of "insecure in their femininity".
A guy who is effortlessly themselves and who does not worry, or even think about, how their actions (or whatever) might affect or alter perception of their "gender"
They could wear a frilly pink tutu and dance around and laugh about it, and if anyone made fun of them for it and said they were acting like a woman or a faggot, they wouldn't even take offense because that person's opinion does not matter to them. Their masculinity is secure enough to withstand criticism. They could even indulge in "feminine" things like crying during a sad movie, or watching a romantic comedy, or painting their nails, or shit like that and they wouldn't suddenly think they were transgender.

If someone is "insecure in their femininity" then they feel like they have to constantly prove to everyone that they are not a woman. They have to do all kinds of bullshit "manly" things like fight people who make them question themselves, or make fun of guys for wearing frilly pink tutus, or remain stoic and emotionless while watching sad movies. They are the type who would take a really long time admitting they are faggots, and then when they finally do they invent all these weird "rules" on how to be a faggot without being "degenerate" ie "feminine". Stupid shit like no one is allowed to touch their butt or kiss them and they never return a bj.

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>>8822519
I guess I forgot that there are certain masculine traits that are pretty much objective like having muscles and being strong.

When I typed the post, I was thinking of how pants used to be just for men, and the discussion about holding hands, where we discussed is it masc/fem even though straight people do it too. I think it's androgynous because both partners are at equal footing, but what if it's not? When two guys dance, is it also fem for the guy who takes the female role in certain dances like foxtrot?

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>>8822656
>originally meant
those are the keywords

Now it's just used by flamers/trannies to anyone who thinks they're annoying. Pretty much just like the word 'homophobe', and Key and Peele made a good sketch about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3h6es6zh1c

Finally breaking up with my crazy bf! Yay!!!

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>>8822664

This is fascinating for me because I study subjects involving social interaction and how the individual interprets their role in a group. You articulated a lot of themes I notice very well. I am especially interested in the dynamics in hierarchies; for example the peculiar resentment authorities and subjects have for each other while each perpetuate each others roles. It seems to be in moments where each forget the privileges of their role, whatever they may be. It occurs between males and females, males and males, females and females, employers and employees, governments and the governed.

The subordinate class have power in numbers. Its just fascinating how social groups internally regulate to keep social orders.

>>8822664
how do failed male trannies fit in this perspective?

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Hey Toronto bois. Steve's moving to you're city.

>>8822726
Key and peeles gay sketches are great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCW_UH-k-ec

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>>8822808
>steve
>not justin

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I just felt I had to add this skit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83Qtm6DjlkI

>>8822795
>tfw gamma masterrace

In all honesty thought that chart you posted is so bogus. The whole alpha/beta scale was developed by animal behaviorists as a proposed way to study the social hierarchy of wolf packs.

It was never meant to be applied to humans and it is pseudoscience to do so. It's the equivalent of describing people by their astrological signs.

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>>8822918
No, you're just disgusting. Fems like you are the reason why gay parades are shit. The dancing boy that /pol/ always post here learned that mannerism from you.

>>8822918
>homophobes, they hate gays because they aren't secure in their own sexuality

I find that this isnt exactly the case. Alphas and betas especially have contempt for homosexuals for reasons that do seem sexual, but not exactly.

Now since people have trouble articulating their contempt for homosexuals because the subject itself invokes a moral position to signal, they may not express it in more accurate terms.

I would explain it in depth, but no one will read it if its longer than a text message, and this board is shit-slow for any discussion anyways.

A basic upshot is that homosexuals upset social order by sort of out-bidding transactions (social interaction in hierarchies) among betas in social order. It comes from a different place than why an alpha might have contempt for homosexuals, at least passive ones. I'd go into detail, but it seems pointless.

>>8822944

I would agree that the chart is a bit too clever to be authoritative. But humans are indeed animals, and its something to celebrate, not be ashamed of, in my opinion.

You dont have to legitimize pack structure to be a perfect homologue of humans, no, but there is no reason to outright reject it for juxtaposition as an analogy.

>>8822876
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkgMbU-we1o

I like darren. I'd rank him 2nd, just below Zach.

>>8822950

I dont understand the logic of identifying with a cultural term like gay and then simultaneously disassociating with such a large part of that term.

That would be like saying some Americans are murderers, but Im not a murderer, therefore murderers are ruining my American identity. It becomes a question, among many, of why the acceptance of said identity is so important to one.

I just dont see it to be a useful expenditure of emotional focus. I dont feel an obligation to police a term of identity when I can just as easily ignore malefactors or simply not use the identity, or at least prioritize it.

In view of the fact that a majority will label you whether you choose the identity or not, it seems unrealistic to feel obligated to defend the identity. If you have no choice, then of what use is it to spend emotional energy on what malefactors do or decide who they are or aren't. If its an identity of choice, then you can police it or change terms. If not, then there is no obligation to defend or police it for purity of an idea, especially when those you oppose make up such a large part of the group.

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I've identified as bi since I was 16, but I've never been with a man.

I'm leaving for Paris in 2 weeks and I want to finally change this, but beyond using Grindr, I have no idea how to find a guy.

Halp?

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>>8822988

I am not saying there isnt some truth to your statement, I am just saying it is not inclusive of motivations beyond sexuality and doesnt go deeper into the social patterns that reinforce it.

If I take 15 minutes to type out a five post outline explaining role behavior in social groups, half will whine tldr, and the other half will want to invite me into an argument that moves at 2 posts per day. Its just not worth it.

You are seeing it strictly as a matter of sexuality and individual proclivities. I am not saying those aren't factors. I am just saying there are reasons those factors form that can be readily explained by looking what a 'homophobes' perceived offense is.

I really have to part with the notion that prejudice is not natural. Prejudice is the application of learned or perceived information. That the information is not always true doesnt mean it isnt useful in anticipating decisions. Otherwise, creatures would never learn and always walk into danger they could've avoided just by making decisions based on perceived information.

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>>8823013
>Grindr is the only way


So homosexual encounters were invented in 2009

k

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>>8822984
I'm not talking about gays in general. I'm separating the normal gays from these degenerates, and you have to admit that the community has them. All I'm doing is calling them out so they'll know that it's wrong and stop.

>>8822988
>anyone who says they're masc are fem
>this much of a projection
pathetic

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>>8823028
>Whatever other environmental factors contribute to their homophobia does not change that fact.

>>8822797
Sorta like asking "how do indonesian bus drivers who prefer pepperoni pizza fit into this perspective"?

The "perspective" applies to individuals, not groups. Also I don't know what you mean by "failed" but it sounds like something someone who is "insecure in their femininity" would say. Secure men don't have any reason to judge other men's masculinity. It either exists or it doesn't, its not a competition.

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>>8823037
>anyone who says they aren't fem are actually fem because (repeat from start)

>>8822795

Whats the deal with omegas tho
Can someone expand on this

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>>8823028
>other environmental factors contribute to their homophobia does not change that fact
I'm pretty sure it would.

>>8822519
>If you decide they are subjective, then they become meaningless,
Enter the nu-male

>>8823064
Not to read too into it, but on this description omegas are individuals with personality and/or affect disorders that makes integration in society infeasible.

Aggressive manifestations of personality disorder, such as the anti-social form, typically result in a two way street. They are rejected for being horrible but take vindictive satisfaction in ruining other people's days.

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>>8823028
>The fact is that all homophobes are fundamentally homophobes because they themselves have homosexual urges.

And that is fundamentally untrue. You have absolutely no evidence that it requires homosexual feelings to find disfavor with homosexuals. The claim itself attempts to de-legitimize every other factor, real and invented, by placing primacy on sex. Society does not disdain pedophiles because everyone is a pedophile.

You have also invented your own concept and definition of prejudice. One is not permitted to appropriate legitimate words to mean something else in order to associate their established legitimacy with terms they do not mean. I cannot call an unwanted kiss rape just because the term associates a level of gravity I wish to convey that isn't actually there.

This is not a discussion of logic and rationale. Its a naked attempt to instill one persons dogma as fact by repetition in lieu of reasoned analysis.

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>tfw nobody that I genuinely connect to as a person and care about to lay in bed with or hold close and feel safe with

I mean I'm okay with it, it's not the end of the world and my happiness is not dependent on it, but I do sometimes wish it were not so. I'm just wondering, has anyone here that has felt this feel ever fulfilled it? For those of us not inherently born with the capability of being super attractive, popular and successful is such a thing even attainable outside of some kind of incredible luck?

>>8823119
>prejudice
Nice. It's good to know that I can not like black people, and not be prejudiced.

>>8823120
>That picture
Right in the feels.

You don't have to be super attractive popular or successful to get a relationship. There are tons of unattractive couples or there.

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>>8823119

Right. "Not based on reason OR actual experience.

If I tell a child not to get into a car with a stranger, the child has no experience. He will make a healthy decision by incorporating prejudiced information absent experience with no ability to reason.

Perhaps the stranger is genuinely trying to remove him from a dangerous area, or perhaps he is a criminal. It doesnt matter what the outcome is, the decision to act on preconceived information is a natural part of behavior.

You act on prejudice all the time. You may pick diners based on reviews, you make avoid people on the street based on how they dress, you may suspect your boyfriend is cheating on you without evidence. These are all judgements followed by actions formed without experience or reason. You have no idea how the food is at a diner you haven't tried, how someone on the street will behave or who your boyfriend was talking to. But you make a decision nonetheless.


And indeed, there are many behaviors that get sloppily lumped into the loaded term homophobia, but that wasn't specified.

So I must agree that there is indeed a clear distinction between the general aversion to homosexuality in many forms, both political, ethical and my personal interest, as social dynamics than there is from the whack job who goes ape-shit if he sees someones dick in the locker room and takes offense.

People who passionately, emotionally never stop railing against homosexuality QED never stop thinking passionately, emotionally about homosexuality. One can argue why that may be, but its impossible to separate those two correlations.

I must go. Have a good day.

>>8820554
Ty

Tranny genocide when?

>>8822808
>another fat downie is moving here
just what this city needed

>it's another episode of all people talk about are mainstream media and politics

Looks like mascgen is ded.

>>8823963

Sad honestly now we have to post in this shit hole.

>>8823979
>we
it's literally just one spammer, if that's all it takes to be masc, might want to reevaluate that insecurity

>>8823979
>>8824026
More like the "men" on this board can't even fight off one dedicated shitposter IN THEIR THREAD DEVOTED TO MANLINESS LOL

It's just so sad. My sides!

>>8824026
>>8824080
>>8824095
>samefagging

>>8824095
Yeah. Defintely more chubby chasers than should ever exist in my book.

I think posting fatties chased more dudes away than the tranny troll.

Well at least mascgen discord isn't filled with gaygen fem trash

>>8824106
>anything that isn't 100lbs is fat

Fem chasers are just as bad if not worse. Biscum trash.

>>8824129
>implying gaygen isn't that pathetic

Look at the mods that runs their discord

>>8824136
>I'm going to bitch and cry about what others like

>>8824116
Kek, I like big manly dudes, but I draw the line at fupa.

>>8824155

I don't ever remember guys that big ever being posted

>>8824102
Nope. Stay triggered, "masc".

>>8824166

Go back to the discord hun

>>8824151
Yes, that's exactly what you did here >>8824116

Are you our resident Alzheimer's poster?

>>8824169
>actually likes hanging around trannies

Agp

>>8824170
>using Discord

Proving how much cancer you are by the post. Consider a vasectomy.

>>8824173

That's my point, we can bitch about this endlessly or just shut the hell up.

>>8824164
They did quiet a bit before it died.
That and "beargnant" shit.

>>8824181
>gays ever having kids

Lad

>>8824187

Meh I don't give a fuck. People like what they like.

>>8824191

I dunno what that term means and I don't want to know.

Why do you have to write walls of text to philosophize about masculinity? Can't we just agree that masculinity is about being a dude and it has nothing to do with your sexuality and who you are attracted to?

>>8824191
>HSTS
>cool

buff guys with glasses, yay or nay? I'm getting a pair soon not because hipster reason or looks but because my sight has gone to shit

>>8824287
If you're good looking, you'll look good in glasses.

If you don't like them there's always contacts. I like contacts more to be honest, glasses can be annoying when getting cozy.

>>8824295
yay. dunno if I'm a glasses guy though
>>8824317
it's only my far sight that is shit so I would only occasionally need them and not during cozytime

>>8824287
actually depends on your face
i know there's one autist who posts on mascgen who calls himself buff (slightly above average in mass) and wears glasses, but is overwhelmingly dull looking

>>8824343
Not really a problem then unless you're trying to pic up dudes while driving.

I'm bored gaygen.
Tell me a story.
Preferably a sexy story.

Hey /gaygen/,

I'm mostly straight, but getting a bit bicurious for a specific type of dude.
Visually buff/masculine but submissive with a kind of flamboyant sounding voice or mannerisms, maybe a lisp.

Does this type of person exist?
I'm not sure if it's really more about liking dudes, and not more reaffirming my own masculinity by dominating a masculine looking guy, but i'd like to try it out.

>>8825122
Not fat anymore, but I appreciate the concern.

Guess I been going to the wrong gym.

>>8825122
>Straight men are now using grindr to gain insta followers. What should we do?
Call up our friends and use their location to slay (as in murder huntys) them. Retribution totes.

>>8825184
Just find some more friends through grindr to gangbang the "straight".
And yeah obvs, same procedure as those fag hag girls.

>>8825300
I'm a mascgener and that guy is a hard pass.

>>8825313
Do Instagram whores get paid? I'm having trouble finding the incentive.

>>8825328
>She
No.
Could been a cute twink if he'd stayed off the hormones.

>>8825328
>>8825300
>>8825259
>>8825252
stop posting you incoherent bitch
find a job or something goddamn
you won't stop shitting up all /lgbt/ threads with your stupidity

>tfw not an elf healer with tall orc warrior bf

>>8825361
A bit of a butter face but I'd hit it.

Jelly of how close all your Grindr hook ups are. I live in a rural area, everyone fuckable is 15+ miles away.

>>8825388
ur too big

>>8825401
ur a butter face, bitch faggot

>>8825342
>black tranny
>gold digger
That wasn't an AGP.

>>8825388
>When you're just an Orc Resto Shaman alone with his totems and elementals...

>>8825407
you can't use mental illness in quotes when you're legitimately damaged, making up stories and screencapping randos
hopefully someone soon puts you out of your misery

>>8825497
"She" was an HSTS, a homosexual transsexual.

I'm a somewhat successful person and not a total social trainwreck but chubby and kind of awkward. How do I attract gays that aren't shallow assholes/total spergs?

I just want a bf who will talk to me regularly.

>>8825689
you need a hobby

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New thread >>8825764

How do I deepthroat without vomiting?

>>8825765
>271 replies only
what's wrong with you...

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Whats the best ways to send mixed messages to jam someones gaydar, keep them in a constant state of disoriented confusion and eventually instill so much self-doubt in their intuition that their brains turn to pudding?

Also, I seek advice on how to keep encounters with others under 50 seconds, hello and goodbye.

I am invoking my protocol of 'cordial distance' to obfuscate my disdain for them because Id rather have them in constant confusion than actually just tell them to fuck off for workplace political reasons. I need more excuses to rotate so I can exit small talk chats in a flash.

This is actually a new elaboration on my 'cordial distance' protocol. "Cordial distance" means I am polite but keep a distance. This is a new experiment, where I pretend to be genuinely interested in them and like them when in fact I loathe them and am never available for progressing interaction.

If they knew I've come to despise them, then they would react hostilely and escalate a grudge. Instead, I need them to be in a constant state of 'wtf?' so they are disarmed by flattery and smiles yet unable to attempt a closer rapport from lack of available occasion.

Sun Tzu, Robert Green, Machiavelli, gimme what you got.

>>8817184
Your pic unironically makes me want to kill myself. Why are homos so fixated on vapid stereotypes?

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>>8828499

You mean like blurting unsolicited opinions and catty bitching about petty things? Stereotypes like that?