/bigen/ - bisexual general

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i love menat, not enough to play SFV but i love her.

i'm a bisexual boyish girl and it's kinda hard for me because i live in a circle that cares deeply about religion but really, they're being shitty desu. no one really know about my sexuality but my sister and one of my cousins. i have to wear hijab and stuffs that i doesn't even want to because ppl around me are so quick to judge others. i always say to myself that i'm agnostic but others will just deny that and say that i hate religions and the rules in it so i'm going to hell when they do so much shits that i don't but they're going to heaven just because they're straight. fucking hell, mate.

Both me and my girl are bisexual but too insecure to invite others into the bedroom. Go figure.

>>8805165
Sounds rough. Will getting away from home help, or are you in some of *those* countries?

>>8805184
>straight people problem

>>8805136
Tried being a tgirl this week, I hated it. Hate not having hair in my body, I look incredibly stupid in girls clothes. The jewelry and make up wasn't bad, still hate the feel of lipsticks. I think I'll try the George Michael look.

>>8805143
She seems really out of place in street fighter. She looks a League of legends character, maybe darkstalkers if you really reach.

>>8805210
Not really, since we have both fucked members of the same sex outside of each other. It's actually pretty terrible to live this way. You deny yourself half of your sexual desire.

>>8805136
if i was a girl i'd sleep with men and women

as a boy i don't want to have sex with anybody

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>>8805361
just take your estrogens to be a qt bi trans girl!

>>8805794
>implying i'd be qt
>implying a trans girl is close enough to a real girl

>>8805878
being a trans girl is better than being a guy tbqh

cis girl > trans girl > guy

for me anyways. Obviously there are a bunch of people who have it the opposite direction

I'm also bi and love fighting games.
What do you guys play?

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>>8806105
virtua
tekken
darkstalkers
doa
samusho

>>8806105
I don't like fighting games because competition with another living person makes me anxious. I like co-op and fighting AI

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>>8807531
same desu
but i love fighting games a lot despite the faggy-ass community

>>8805165
I feel for you, but you sound far too young to be on 4chan.

Try to go to a university away from your hometown so you get a chance to live independently with a new circle of friends.

I'm mostly sexual attracted to men, but sometimes I get crushes on girls. Should I off myself?

What are you some of your favorite /comfy/ games, /bigen/?

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Played Mortal Kombat and Darkstalkers when I was younger. Past that? Never really got into Fighting Games.

>>8806053
cis girl > passing trans girl > guy > hon

>>8807592
No.

Are any of you into Femdom when in a straight relationship but then the opposite when in a gay relationship?
Like, where you are: dominant with men, but submissive with women.

>>8808078
the opposite of that tbqhon

>>8808103
I feel like the majority of bi's are like you. "Traditional" roles in their m/f relationships and either the opposite or same/switch in their m/m or f/f relationships.

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>>8808136
>either the opposite or same

yeah, that about covers it

>>8807631
Straight/bi cis girl > bi guys > trannies > gay guys

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>>8806105
right now:
tekken
guilty gear
UMVC3

i played a lot of soul calibur and street fighter IV, but there's not new soul calibur (they are teasing 6 anyway) and SFV was a big, BIG letdown, i am planning to play KOFXIV now that they annouced the completed version.

i would love to play a virtua fighter game, but i don't have a PS3 so i am waiting for the emulator version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-xszt93SPo

i also try to play DOA5 but i don't enjoy it much and the community is dead. is rought time for 3D fighting game fans, but at least tekken is awesome, the gameplay is just the most polish tekken game.

>>8808136
i suposed i enter in that dynamic
>would be dominant with a woman
>if the woman is masculine and a bro would be about equal
>if enter in a relationship with a feminine boy i would be gadly the dominant patner
>if enter in relationship with a normal and/or masculine guy the roles would be more or less equal
>open to be submissice in the bed with men if they are masc but not feminine men or women

>>8805239
>You deny yourself half of your sexual desire.
I honestly dont get this mentality. I have never, ever, ever felt this way while being in a monogamous relationship.

stop being fucking biscum and giving us a bad name

>>8808078
I'm not a degenerate switch, pure dom through and through.

>>8807594
stellaris is pretty comfy, can be stressful, but if you are not a genocyde or in constant war the game almost always is comfy

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>>8807613
yo sould try tekken or DBFZ if the game si good, SFV would be a good entry for newbies if the game was not trash.

under night and guilty gear have GOAT tutorials, but the games, their mechanist and complexity are not newbie friendly, and the community is small, friendly to newbies but too expert to play with newbies in fighting games.

honestly, SFV is not THAT bad for new players

>>8808078
Nope, absolutely not. Dom in any relationship. One of those "Goes against nature" type things with me.

>>8808466
I love Stellaris, I like making a wall of vassals and just sit in my comfy home

>>8808481
> One of those "Goes against nature" type things with me.


>is bi
>has sex without procreation

well shit nigga you need to pick

>>8808475
Huh, well, if I ever get in the mood to mess around with fighting games again (or games in general) I'll have to check those out. The last time I seriously sat down and played ANY game it was The Witcher 3: The Wild Hunt, and years before that, Republic Commando.

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>>8808491
maybe fighting games are not for you, but in my opinion, fighting games are the most fun ones, the ones where you have more hype, but they also can be very stressful, until
you get used to the game, but i have a much better time with fighting games than any other genre.

>>8808487
Sheeeeeeit. Wearing clothes isn't natural but just about everyone does that. However, I can see where you're coming from. Maybe more so against MY nature than nature itself.

>>8808496
Well, I like the genre but not enough to devote a whole lot of time to it. If I play something like MK over an hour, it's usually when I'm hanging out at a friend's place and they want to kill time. Definitely like the competitiveness, the speed is nice, but I think if I wanted that I'd grab something like Unreal Championship.

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>>8805208
yeahhh. i'm from one of those countries that hates lgbt and call themselves a multiracial muslim country

>>8807582
i'm not that young tho, i guess. i'm 17 y/o.

i'm definitely going to a university far away from my home istg. i've been planning that for years.

>>8808426

Big into fighting games and probably bi. Right now

SFIII 3rd Strike
Smash 4 (inb4 > not a real fighting game)
And dabbling in a few others.

Bi dude and i enjoy tekken 7 but dont play people much anymore.

Was way into USFIV and Alpha 2 but since SFV came out i lost interest in the whole thing. I need a new FG buddy.

I think SFV is my least favourite FG that ive played really doesnt mean much im not some kind of tourney winner. i jst play with mates and at locals sometimes (when i can be bothered)

>>8808078

I;m male

When im with a guy I want to be the man. the macho man the masc figure and they're my sub pretty much.
with a girl im more into the idea of equality in roles

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Is it weird to be almost exclusively attracted to East Asians? I can't help it, they're qt in a way that other people just aren't.

>>8808556
this site is 18+ you idiot

>>8808078

No, but I prefer to top men. With women, I guess I instinctively know what's expected but with dudes, it's different. They've been told what their role is supposed to be since their teens so I enjoy the fact that they're put in a position of unexpected submission when they bottom. Anyone else feel the same way?

>>8808078
Yeah I'm kinda like this. Though I also like to be submissive with men too.

>>8808078
no, i dom everyone. girls like it, especially "straight" girls. some guys like it, but say i'm too pushy.

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>>8805136
So ok, it's like my first time here and I don't even know if i'm gay, straight or bi. Give me a hand.
So I've always liked pussae, I used to get 4 girls in my bed at my peak, I'm kind of a man whore.
In these last months I kind of lost interests in girls for some reason. I had my first "homo" experience 9 months ago with a sissy crossdresses, femoboy is the word? idk (he was warmfreshpaint tier so really good), it was fun and I enjoyed it, I didn't even have problem with he's penis even did some face to face and kissing while fucking. It went like this for few months and some times he bringed some of his friends (one was gay, the two femboys) and we did some orgies (Didn't even touch the gay dude tho). I lost total interests in girls in the meantime, still I felt like a straight dude. One day I drinked a few more than I should have and let the gay dude fuck me in the ass.
W O W, it was so fucking good. I felt like a total bitch and even talked like one while he was fucking me. I even had an orgasm I think and It was the best of my life. It was a strange experience, hurted and a bit akward at the beginning but it was the best sex I ever had in my life.
I started getting more interested in the lifestyle, I went in gays bars and clubs, started seeing the other guys even outside of the bedroom and so one. Basically from putting my dick inside things I started to take a differen one every week. One week even two guys in a night. No kisses tho.
I lost control of the situation a month ago when after joking about it for weeks I finally tried woman clothes for a entire day. I liked feeling like a girl.
One day I go to their appartment, and they made one of them. Shaved, Make up on, dressed like a girl and talking like a girl. I became a little bitch. We went to one of his friend house, the were something like 8 black dudes inside. They started giving us drinks, touch our asses and stuff. They made us strip when we were a bit drunk.

>>8809517
we were naked, they made stay on our knees and blowgang us basically. 3 of them were VERY VERY fucking hung, 1 of them was hung but not as much as the other, 4 of them were like normal still between 6 and 7 inches. I sucked 4 cocks, then I got spit roasted by two of them, then another guy took me doggystyle and fucked me. The last guys fucked me looking me in the eye. they all came inside of me, except for the last one that came on my face.
I don't know how to feel about this thing. At the moment I even wanted more, but know... I kind of feel like shit. I feel disgusted by myself. I don't feel like even touching a man anymore for the rest of my life. What the fuck was it? Am I gay repressed? Bi?a curious etero?

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>>8809533
>>8809517

You're bisexual and a very good fiction writer.
I don't believe a word of what you've written, but I enjoyed it.
Thank you and best wishes.

>>8809566
>a very good fiction writer
dude can't even type coherently

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Is the "no such thing as a dominant woman" meme true? I have no problem finding guys who enjoy being on top, but never females. If I'm lucky they'll agree to indulge my fantasy occasionally, but it's obvious they're only doing it because I asked.

>>8809735
they exist. They're just rare and in high demand.

>>8809735
I feel like to make it more complicated, what dominant women are interested in and what submissive men are interested in are sometimes very different. There's a lot of discussions on /r/femdomcommunity about this

So... I only really like femguys and teen boys. Am I actually bi or just a pedo?

>>8809939
How old are you?
So long you can find fulfilling relationships with age-appropriate people I wouldn't worry too much about it.

>>8809954
27

>>8809939
>Am I actually bi or just a pedo?
>>8809959
Why not both?

>>8809735
Women can be dominant in the bedroom and sometimes the rest of the time while overall still wanting to be supported by men.

>>8809939
>teen boys
>27
Pedophile, try oral administration of a 9mm.

>>8809735
What >>8809930 said, there are plenty of dominant women but they're likely bored by a lot of the activities you see as subby (pegging etc).

>>8810046
I don't want to be this way. I hate this about myself and nobody will ever accept it

>>8810264
Maybe you're just into femine submissive boys?

>>8810264
Go see a therapist and see if they're intrusive thoughts arising from another mental illness or if you're unredeemable.

>tfw bi bara top
>tfw no femboy bf or gf (male)

>>8810629
protip: fat != bara
incel != top

>>8810657
nigra

>>8810517
I mean, they're not intrusive thoughts, it's more I just find them attractive. Like you would any person you're normally attracted to.

>>8810677
>Discuss
Care to elaborate on what aspects you'd classify as "disgusting" and "mentally ill" about trannies? Just to help paint a better picture of your position.

>>8810677
that's not what bi means

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so, like, how the fuck do i find a boyfriend? deleted Grindr because its shit (and was harmful to my self-esteem). I don't really socialise that much because i'm always working. fuck it I even went to pride with a couple of lesbian friends and not a single person so much as said hi.

>>8810677
>discussing an opinion with no prompt

I think trannies are mentally ill... but I also think retards are too.

i think trannies are sexy
guys minus the dick and with more fem features
Just like women but with different frame
full on sexy turns me on every time

>>8810785
If you don't have time to socialize then how do you have time for a bf?

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>>8805136
I'm bi but came out as gay so I could date guys openly. I felt that if I told them I'm bi their response would just be "ok you're horny and desperate"- guys are the best but now I feel guilty beating off to straight porn. Why is gay porn so bad but gay sex so good!?

>>8810868
hmmm fair point. he'd be understanding, and I'd make up for it when I had spare time. or I need to find someone with a similar jerb.

>>8810872
>Why is gay porn so bad but gay sex so good!?
Stuff that feels good IRL doesn't always look good on camera and vice versa.

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>>8810913
But it totally can!! Like it'll just a close up of half his face with bad hair and making stupid faces- then they show the good stuff like getting railed and the bottoms dick is twitching for 3 seconds then they'll just cut back to his face for 30 seconds!

Gay porn needs cinematic direction!

>>8809735
We do exist, but it's equal parts hard to find and quickly snapped up that you gotta compete with.

>>8809930
>>8810164
>pegging
thats a good point to show the difference in desires. I have met many sub men who want to lose the privilege of penetration long term and have only pegging based sex. This is not pleasurable to me (no stimulation) and I find inherently selfish from the sub, because they want to put their desires over my pleasure, which should be paramount to them (just like making sure they enjoy the experience is paramount to me.)

This is where the common rhetoric of domme's saying "male subs are shit and treat me like a sex doll" come from - so many men wanting to put their desires above their domme's pleasure. I love the idea of pegging as well as the act, because it gives my sub pleasure and its a dominating act, however if my sub said they only wanted pegging sex from now on, I'd tap out. Its not something I'd find enjoyable every damn time we went to have sex.

Whats hard to find is a lesbo/bi sub. Most bi women will sub for men but only want to dom women, and I've only met on lesbian in the bdsm community and she was a sub, but refused to sub for any woman who was bi, she strictly wanted a lesbian partner.

>>8811277
>We do exist,
But are you really dominant the same way men are or do you just want to be on top in the bedroom?

Either way, how did you come to discover your sexuality?

>Most bi women will sub for men but only want to dom women
Now that's weird. Why wouldn't they enjoy subbing to women too?

>>8811313
>Why wouldn't they enjoy subbing to women too?
Because bisexuals suffer from internalized homphobia

>>8811345
a) then why are they fine with domming?
b) bi males

>>8811313
>But are you really dominant the same way men are or do you just want to be on top in the bedroom?
I'm in a 24/7 dom/sub relationship, I'm more dom than most men. I don't know why'd you even think this because every legit femdom (not femdoms for pay) I've met has been a hard bitch, it's only "switches" who flub on that kind of shit.

>Either way, how did you come to discover your sexuality?
ERPing on IMVU as a teen. Started off as a sub because I'm a woman and that's ""what you do"" then progressed to switch because most people I ran into were sub and I was horny and didn't mind domming, by the time I was 17 I realised fuck I love domming and hate being told what to do. Now the idea of being a sub or subbing fucking repulses me.

>>8811345
I think it's more internalised misogyny than anything else. Women feel the need to "compete" with each other for men and shit (which is very stupid and not something I subscribe to), and if they sub to a women they show they're the "lesser" female. On saying this, those women who I met that fill this bill tend to be.../those/ types. incredibly bitchy white trash barsexuals.

>>8811360
>Why is having the power less frightening than giving up the power?

Think about it for a while and maybe it will come to you.

>>8811391
I'm very submissive and can't understand dominant men or women of any sexuality well.

>>8811378
>I don't know why'd you even think this because every legit femdom (not femdoms for pay) I've met has been a hard bitch, it's only "switches" who flub on that kind of shit.
I mean in things like being the breadwinner, making household decisions, being the more proactive and responsible one, etc.

>>8811313
they probably want to fuck women and get fucked by men. girls are cute, you want to just eat them like a peach, so you get all dominant around them.

>>8811435
>I mean in things like being the breadwinner, making household decisions, being the more proactive and responsible one, etc.
Thats me in a nutshell, actually. It's also pretty outdated and not what a lot of people would term "dominant." Even in your standard nuclear family the woman, in the submissive role, tended to be the most proactive/responsible one, making household decisions where as the man was mostly the breadwinner, a not inherently dominant role. Submissives like to be cared for, and bringing home money does that.

>>8811424
Don't worry.
A lack of empathy is common among autistics.

>>8811468
But having the money brought home for you is being cared for and the man as breadwinner is the one who makes career decisions and decides whether major financial decisions are possible?

>>8811475
:/

>>8811476
>who makes career decisions
Of course they'd decide it's their job, just like how women would decide houses to look at.

>whether major financial decisions are possible
Any major financial decision is talked over in a healthy relationship. On top of that a lot of women are completely in charge of finances, even to this day and age.

A lot of the things you're talking about don't sit on a dominant and submissive dichotomy. Especially not in a kink based relationship. It's just gender roles that would be swapped, an FLR.

>>8811495
>On top of that a lot of women are completely in charge of finances, even to this day and age.
I guess that's an exception to the general rule of the man deciding things. Of course major decisions get talked over, but I imagine the man being the decision maker at the end of the day.

>It's just gender roles that would be swapped, an FLR.
I guess that's what I'm thinking about really. That's more important to me than bedroom dynamics.

Off topic, but, how do you guys and gals like your steak?

>>8811726
Rare... but mostly not at all, since I prefer to eat more vegetarian these days.

>>8812884
Like it to still be mooing, huh? And why the switch?

>>8811726

Medium, medium-rare depending on the occasion.

>>8813101
I'm someone who goes through a vegetarian phase every once in awhile. I don't particularly care about animals - I'm able to, which is always part of why I go vegetarian or vegan, but eventually idgaf any more or become cynical, so it's also about the environment and just doing something that I think will be better for the future, hopefully. Also, fiber (a vegetarian diet is bad for this if you become a cheese hound tho xD).

Am I bi or a pure faggot if I have fucked girls but pefer getting fucked myself?

>>8813991
You might still be bi, but if you're a total bottom then you might be better of dating men.
There is a such thing as straight bottoms, and there are women who are into that... they just might be into other things you don't like (domination aspects, from light and near-vanilla to 5 Polish immigrant MILFs literally murdering you), and will probably need you to top them at least sometimes to have a satisfying sex life.

>>8814063
>but if you're a total bottom then you might be better of dating men.
d/a, explain?

I really do not understand my sexuality/preferences at all. I mean I'm a virgin so this is all in theory, but I develop crushes and romantic feelings with girls pretty frequently while I can only think of maybe one guy I've felt that way about. However recently I've been having more and more of my sexual thoughts and desires be about same-sex stuff, though out in public I still almost exclusively only pay attention to women.

I'm a 5'4" dude so for whatever reason I think being that small makes me lean towards being kind of subby/bottom-ey (may even have a slight crossdressing fetish due to some weird childhood stuff) but outside of that have no desire to be feminine and am pretty masculine acting/looking. However even then I could still see myself being more dominant/topping certain guys or gals, but my height and mediocre dick leave me worried about being able to convincingly pull that off.

Why can't I just fucking be a normal homo or a normal straight person. All this in between shit is confusing as hell.

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>>8814063
>to 5 Polish immigrant MILFs literally murdering you
Great, now a I have a new fetish.
Thanks a lot, asshole.

>>8814864
>but my height and mediocre dick leave me worried about being able to convincingly pull that off.
If you won't even give yourself a chance, how are other people supposed to?
Just go with whatever you feel, constantly questioning yourself gets you nowhere.

>>8814864
Developing crushes and romantic feelings is often based off intimacy and closeness as well of attraction. You could be more attracted to men and never develop crushes on them because you have less opportunities to be intimate with men you're attracted to.

It's quite common for your crushes to be skewed the opposite way to your sexual attractions if your your social circle leans towards a different gender than you prefer (think bi guys that prefer women but are stuck in boys'-only schools, or bi guys that prefer men but only have female friends after being ostracised by male classmates for being a "faggot").

>>8813647
What would you have for a special occasion? Say, a formal event?

>>8813970
Oh, I couldn't go vegan for love or money. Though, vegetarian burritos were something I liked more than I thought I would. And I'm the kind of sick fuck that's fed his chickens left over chicken, so feelings never detour my diet.

>>8807592
Uhmmm.
What?

So I'm a fairly heterosexual guy with agp ( and a vrigin ), but I recently started adding this fairly because of following greentext story
>be me, highschool student
>new year, new classmates and stuff
>have to seat next to unknown fellow student, name's gonna be Dude
>often talk during courses, having fun, usual friendship
>than one night, have a dream were I'm in front of Dude, suddenly feeling the urge of kissing him, do it
>feelsgoodman.jpg
>wakeup short after
>remember it all
>feelfuckingbad.rar
>never mention it to him, try to keep it as deep inside as possible
>time passes, nothing moves, still think about it now and than as an overdrive from my brain
>In the meanwhile, meet Lad, another classmate
>the guy finds me funny and a bit strange - but in a good way
>Lad is quite odd too, pretty popular, bi and quite handsome, more on the muscular type
>Talk to him sometimes, not really regularly, but still a nice relationship
>Time passes, graduation, go to college
>Meet him once again at a student party
>Have a long chat, having a nice time
>Meet him several other times, same stuff
>Than last night I dream about us together, cuddling and stuff
So nothing really happened here, and sorry for this long and uninteresting story, but I feel like I needed some advice : I'm not really experienced with women, I'd like to be though, having a gf etc. and I could have had one but I wasn't really interested or too clumsy for it; on the other hand I barely have any dreams about being with a woman etc. Do you think I'm turning bi or something ? I feel kinda lost desu

>>8815384
You're bisexual and have more/are around more males so the attachments you form to them and your desire for intimacy, sexual or otherwise, are meshing together. Since these are people you know and form some kind of relationship with you're bound to have some kind of thoughts like that about them.

>>8815398
Oh I never really thought about that, thanks !

Does anybody's bisexuality change?

I used to be pretty evenly attracted to men and women alike, but anymore I find that I'm just not attracted to guys.

>>8815446
I used to be straight.

>>8815446
It's called the "bi cycle"
And yes. Sometimes I think I must be a total lesbian, other times I think I'm totally straight, and otheres like a perfect Kinsey 3

>>8815512
>>8815473

Good to hear that this isn't uncommon then.

>>8815446
If I'm single for a long while, including having casual sex, I tend to have stints where I'm attracted more to one more than the other. For a month, I'll notice women more, the next, I'll notice guys more.

Like >>8815512 said, it's pretty much a cycle. And it varies from person to person. Did it happen suddenly or gradually?

>>8815537
Over the course of a few months I guess? I just kinda noticed that I was thinking about guys less and less in any sort of romantic or sexual way, and right now I just kinda feel nothing about them.

>>8815384
Sexuality is adaptable. People will naturally develop romantic feelings for somebody they're close to. Whatever part of your brain controls this doesn't always pay attention to your sexuality, doubly so if you're not especially close to any females.

>>8815512
that's a fun name- "bi cycle"

>>8816027
is that a spinning class for queers?

>>8815565
Sorry for the delay, friend. Yeah, that's how it usually happens, you barely notice it until you REALLY start thinking about it.
>>8816053
Oh, nice. I'd sign up for that in a jiffy.

> e friend (male) wants to fuck
>me too
>ask him if he wants to top or bot
> he says he prefers bot
>mfw i prefer bot too but i dont tell him
Help bigen im not sure i can be a competent top

>>8816200
Practice makes perfect

>>8805136
I like cocks and female bodies

am I bisexual or homosexual? I prefer to be submissive and bottom.

It's weird because I only have crushes on women

>>8816247
If you're looking for labels, you might be called bisexualbut homoromantic (heteromantic? not sure on your gender)

>>8816260
I'm male, so bisexual heteroromantic, but closer to homosexual.

I get really horny from making out with a cute girl which is enough to carry me to want to fuck her. But getting a blowjob (from anyone) is not that sexy to me or topping (anyone) is not that sexy to me.

When I fucked an ftm I got head and then he put my half hard dick in his pussy and it was like the worst sex I've ever had. I'm just not attracted to pussy the way I am attracted to cocks.

The only time I felt really heterosexual is when my cis girlfriend was ovulating and I got really horny. I could tell when she was ovulating just based on being around her (pheromones?)

I mostly look for dom mtfs now, which is kind of impossible to find in this area. But it's the easiest for me to get excited when my partner has a nice cock.

But if I'm really homosexual heteroromantic it would basically suck for my love life.

>>8816282
yeah, having opposite -sexuals and -romantics pretty much means your only long term option is trans people

Which is great if you can find them, but like you said, they can be rare if you're looking for them to be of a certain type

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is there a correlation between girls liking anime and girls being bi?

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So on a scale from 1 to 10, how bi are they?

>>8816423
no, I only like manga

I decided to do nofap for a while. I can't fap to guys or girls. It's twice the hell!

>>8816436

All of the neutrals are bi. Everyone else is a lesbian. Neutral femme waifu tier.

I think i found a rare thread the legendary bisexual thread i thought you got scared off when you were labed as greedy i cant believe this thread is up well done

>>8816436
>Lawful Femme
2/10
>Neutral Femme
6/10
>Chaotic Femme
2/10
>Lawfully Neutral
9/10
>True Neutral
6/10
>Chaotic Neutral
8/10
>Lawful Butch
2/10
>Neutral Butch
7/10
>Chaotic Butch
Legit wants her actual father's cock and everyone knows it/10

>>8816200
Hey, cowboy, it'll be okay. All it takes is confidence and solid technique. If he's gonna be bottoming, you'll want to take initiative and start with foreplay and prep. Some kisses on the the body, key areas being the nape of the neck, shoulders, chest, abdominals, and if their back is to you, up and down the spine. Just be sure not to just focus on one thing, try to multitask. Say, you're laying some heavy smooches on his lips? Don't let your hands be idle, use them. Rubbing, tugging, gripping, or probing are the predominant things they should be doing. And once it reaches a good heated point, you'll wanna lather him up good, inside and out, yourself as well especially if going raw (which you may want to be cautious about). Then, the main course, just don't get too excited or else it'll end fairly quickly. Might suggest masturbating to completion before you you get down to business to prevent premature detention, too. If there's anything really beyond this very brief overlay you're worried about, feel free to ask.
>>8816247
I'd just say bisexual, broad term, don't get too bent up about hyper specific labelling.
>>8816466
Ain't it peachy?
>>8816474
>Legit wants her actual father's cock and everyone knows it/10
No wonder she acts out.

>>8816698
Thanks chief but im kinda not sure about the jack off before sex, my biggest worry is that i wont be into it

>>8816730
Good sex takes experimenting. It sounds like you're both inexperienced, so definitely keep the lines of communication open like "we may have to try a few things before this works 100%". From my understanding, a lot of guys experience performance anxiety their first few times and either can't get/stay hard or can't cum. He may even have similar issues, or realize he doesn't actually like bottoming. So, like, you're not a freak if you have bad sex. What's most important that you don't hurt your partner during sex, cuz mediocre sex is better than painful sex.

>>8816730
Only a suggestion, but if you don't think you'll be into it, I might also suggest you not force yourself. Giving it a try can't hurt but ultimately, if you don't like it, it's not worth it.

>>8811726
Done throuly

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/bigen/ need your help. Bisexual here, never really had any sexual relationship with a guy. Now all of a sudden my gay friend from uni is asking to fuck. This is just making me nervous because he is taking it really quickly. I mean i would be fine with a bit of oral but he wants to take it straight to raw sex. What im afraid of is ill panic or not like it and either get all confused about myself or ruin the friendship. Any first time advice/stories?

>>8817180
Tell them you idiot, do people fucking not communicate?

>>8817135
Well done? Buh, could never stomach it. Have a particular reason why you like it? >>8817180
>>8817187
Communication would be key here. Explain you're inexperience and tell them it needs to be slowed down, you need to be eased into it. That the current speed is making you uncomfortable. Have a conversation at length and determine the pace and boundaries before it goes any further or gets out of hand.

>>8817180
Part of me would say just go for it since most gay guys will never touch you if they find out your biscum, at least in my experience. Even if that's true or false, if going this fast makes you uncomfortable you don't have to do it.

>>8805136
>pansexuals are just special snowflake bisexuals, all this "bisexual vs pansexual" is just a stupid terminology fight

I'm not saying I agree with you but I have wonder what exactly practical difference (if any) the distinction makes.

Saying you're attracted men and women and say you're attracted to all genders effectively means the same. Your potential pool of partners isn't gonna change. Unless bisexuals here is taking to mean " strictly only cis men and women only" which I'm pretty sure it doesn't but correct me if I'm wrong

>>8808078
I'm ftm and I'm a true switch. Femdom is very sexy to me, and it's enough of a thig for cisguys as not to make me dysphoric. Still, taking control tickles my masc feels in a very nice way.

With guys I've been mostly taking the submissive role so far, as I'm less confident when it comes to men. Also the guys I've been with have been notably older than me and generally there hasn't been an explicit power dynamic.

>>8809107
Yellow fever, m8. I'm into darker skinned guys (black and middle eastern especially) but it's more like an instant bonus on the hotness score. If you're ONLY into a very specific ethnical profile, maybe that's something to try and work on.

>>8817646
I ID as bi, my gf as pan. Between us, our attraction mainly differs in that gender is an active agent in how or why I find someone attractive or not, whereas to her it just doesn't matter.

>>8809231
The average mental age in 4chan is like 14 y/o, just check /b/ to realize nobody is mature enough to hold any type of responsibility.

>>8805136

>age
>gender
>favorite book
>favorite film
>favorite television series
>what do you do for a living/what do you study if you're a student
>favorite album
>how many languages do you speak
>when did you know you were bisexual
>favorite type of music genre
>any plans for the future

Go.

>>8818223
19
f
Dune
Cloud Atlas
Battlestar Galactica
Student, studying aerospace engineering
Changes fairly often, but right now I'm digging Uncle Raven's Super Happy Funtime Carnival
1, english
Uh, maybe around 16, 17? I knew I was attracted to girls, but then I realized guys can be pretty cute too
I guess just rock, as a broad category
I'd like to move away from the suburbs into a larger city area. Somewhere where there's actually some excitement in the air.

>>8818223
I don't like sharing my age and I'm confused over my gender.

I love questions like these but hate when they're such identifying things.

>>8818223

>age
21
>gender
male
>favourite book
One Hundred Years of Solitude
>favourite film
12 Angry Men
>favourite television series
Narcos
>what do you do for a living/what do you study if you're a student
Student, I study law
>favourite album
Kid A - yeah, I know, generic af
>how many languages do you speak
English and French
>when did you know you were bisexual
Since I was a child.
>favorite type of music genre
alternative
>any plans for the future
Personal or professional? There are certain aspects of law that I want to specialise in, particularly anything to do with finance, regulatory compliance, or financial crime. In the short term tho, I guess find a qt girlfriend or boyfriend.

>>8818223
>age
21
>gender
dude
>favorite book
Collected Poems of T.S. Eliot
>favorite film
Inside Llewyn Davis
>favorite television series
Mad Men
>what do you do for a living/what do you study if you're a student
Have one more year studying english, will probably a hobo after that.
>favorite album
Leonard Cohen - Songs of Love and Hate
>how many languages do you speak
1.25
>when did you know you were bisexual
Technically around 13 or 14 when I had a crush on my best friend, didn't really come to terms with it for another 6 years or so.
>favorite type of music genre
anything folk related
>any plans for the future
Not really, try not to kill myself I guess.

>>8818223
27
male
none
Shawshank Redemption
None
unemployed
Dark Side of the Moon or Dirt
1
First suspected it in College
Grunge
Get a job, Get an apartment, Get Laid

>>8816842
>It sounds like you're both inexperienced
actually hes a twink chad

>>8818223

>age
21
>gender
Male
>favorite book
The Amber Spyglass
>favorite film
Inglourious Basterds
>favorite television series
Game of Thrones (really like Attack on Titan and Narcos though)
>what do you do for a living/what do you study if you're a student
Studying American Studies full time
>favorite album
Rosenrot
>how many languages do you speak
Danish + English fluently, can ask for directions in German and Spanish
>when did you know you were bisexual
14
>favorite type of music genre
Metal (electronic close 2nd)
>any plans for the future
Trying to get a sixpack

>>8817753
>implying /b/tards are representative of the other boards

>>8816698
>Might suggest masturbating to completion before you you get down to business to prevent premature detention, too.
Jesus, that reminds me of that scene in The Inbetweeners where Jay gives Simon that advice and then he can't get hard and ends up fruitlessly slapping his cock.

>>8817646
Pansexual has always been fancy speak for trans inclusive bisexuals and some of whom reject a gender binary. I myself would be considered Pansexual for my sexual attractions but Bisexual does just as well, I find something attractive about either sex/gender but why make a whole new sexuality out of it? A lot of people just wanna find new ways to stand out and 'being pan' has been one of em, thus the 'snowflake' label.

>>8818223
>Age
N/A
>Gender
Male
>Favorite Book
Heart Of Darkness by Joseph Conrad
>Favorite Film
Hard tie between; Starship Troopers / The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
>Favorite TV Series
Death Valley Days
>What do you do for a living?
Freelance Welder
>Favorite Album
Not sure I have one
>How many languages do you speak?
Fluent in English, re-learning Spanish, and leaning German/Arabic
>When did you know?
About freshman year of High School, specifically during an event where I had to wear my Class A's for Army JROTC
>Favorite Music Genre
If I HAD to pick one, Jazz
>Future Plans
Working, saving up for retirement, maybe settling down. BUT, I have considered taking a family friend up on his offer to work under him as a Mortician's Apprentice. He'd pay for my schooling and it'd be much more stable than what I do now even if it pays a little less.

>>8818476
Never seen it, sounds sad, tho.

>>8818634
It's fucking funny but I can't find the clip on YouTube because I guess it's too explicit. Great episode. Should serve as a cautionary tale for anon that wanking beforehand for stamina can backfire.

>>8818223
>Age
23
>Gender
Male
>Favourite book(s)
The Subtle Knife || Snow Crash || Blindsight
>Favourite film
Ex Machina
>Favourite television series
Utopia
>What are you studying
Mathematics
>How many languages do you speak
Just English right now, though I'm trying to learn Korean
>When did you know you were bisexual
Only admitted it two days ago, it's amazing how long you can fantasise about guys and tell yourself you're straight
>Any plans for the future?
Get a qt bf or gf, finish uni, probably go into cryptology. Part of me wants to join a space program but that's the kinda dumb answer you give when you're a kid. Britain doesn't even have a space program.

>>8817696
>our attraction differs
I feel like the difference is minute enough that the bi/pan distinction isn't completely important, because the potential activities of the two sexuality are the same: having sex and relationships with males/amabs and females/afabs.

>>8806105
Persona
Fire Emblem (to a much lesser extent)
Overwatch
Danganronpa

I don't play fighting games besides Smash, Skullgirls, and Persona 4 Arena

to be completely honest, the reason i call myself pansexual is because i want to distance myself from transphobic bisexuals. and there are a lot, just like there are a lot of transphobic lesbians.

It just feels more comfortable to me. I went from asexual to lesbian to pansexual from the age of 12-26. Self discovery can be crazy

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>>8806105
tekken & guilty gear

i am also a dragon ball fan, and a fighting games fan, so DBFZ is literally a god gift for me.

>>8818963
That's a fair enough reason
what label I use depends on where I am- if I think I'm gonna get shit or annoying questions from people for using pansexual, I just say bi.

I've been bicurious for ages now, but never actually experimented before. I've got someone who's interested in me finally that I really seem to click with, now I'm kinda anxious about how it'll turn out. I'm masculine, he's feminine, and he's 5 years younger but definitely got more experience than me.

Can someone give me some advice?

>19
>male
>spend all my younger years dating girls
>definitely feel some kind of romantic attraction to them but not interested in doing much beyond kissing, cuddling and going on cute dates
>realize I've had similar kind of romantic feelings towards guys before
>especially one friend in particular
>have in the past just dismissed it as close friendship because I already knew I liked girls
>kind of thinking about fooling around with guys
>jacking off suddenly way easier
>want to figure things out better but don't want to hook up with just any dude since I'm kind of a romantic at heart

Can you actually be attracted to a gender without wanting sex? Does that mean I like both? How did some of you figure this shit out? The fuck do I do about possibly having a crush on my friend?

>>8819519
Is your friend gay or bi?

>>8818223
27
m
foundation series from asimov
bladerunner
dont watch tv series
engineer, i make weapons and shit
changes very often
2
since 13-14
goth, post punk, punk
i want to change jobs and city move to a bigger one if possible.

>>8819552
He's gay. He came out in high school and got bullied a shit ton for it. Mainly I think because the people messing with him knew they could get away with it because he wouldn't stand up for himself. t can't stand shit like that so I spent a lot of time defending him.

>>8819591
>foundation series from asimov
gimme dat gay shit

>>8819604
If he's gay you should give it a go, senpai.

>>8819604
>tfw no big strong bf to protect me from bullies ; ___ ;

>>8819655
>gimme dat gay shit
i dont understand friendo.

>>8819668
It's got a basically canon gay robot/human couple in it.

>>8819671
gay robot/human couple?

math-magician's wife is clearly female.

>>8819655
You really think he'd be open to something like that just because we're both guys and he's gay? I don't how he even feels.

I mean, I mentioned that sometimes I've been curious, so I would then that that'd be a pretty strong go-ahead if he was interested. But I guess given his personality he probably wouldn't have had the nerve to say something.

>>8819665
He's actually a lot bigger than me. I think that's part of the reason people picked on him so much (not just for the gay thing). Probably gave them a rush to mess with a guy who looks like that and have him not do anything about it. Seriously pathetic.

>>8819687
i am pretty sure he ll be into you since you protected him back in the day.

>>8819687
>big guy (for you) and his scrappy bff

that's somehow cuter

>>8819692
I mean, that's assuming a lot, I guess. I have had people joke that he's basically whipped when it comes to me before. It does seem sometimes that he likes me a lot. Sometimes the way he looks at me kind of hurts. Is it possible that he likes me, I'm picking up on the vibe and it's making me like him? Does it even work that way?

I guess I could talk to him about it, but I'm not really sure what I'd say and I'm worried that if it doesn't work out, it'll ruin everything.

>>8819729
He's really shy and doesn't have a lot of confidence, but he's a good person. I couldn't stand seeing people at our school treat him like shit. It's gotten better since we're in college. I think it's really helped him.

>>8819763
yes it works that way. when someone shows affection to you, you also seem to return the favor unknowingly most of the time.

you can just say you fancy him i guess. i said that when i first opened up to a guy i liked.

>>8819778
yeah but I feel like he wouldn't start to like the guy just because the guy is crushing on him. like the inclination would already have to be there or something.

>>8819796
but why though? you 2 already have something going on, its just going to evolve into something deeper. sounds like there is already quite a lot of inclination but you are in a bit denial.

>>8819796
>>8819778
So does that mean I don't "really" like him?

I want to be sure before I have a talk with him about what I'm feeling. He's my best friend and I don't want to fuck this up.

>>8819825
no i think you like him, you are just a bit afraid of consequences if he says no.

Is there any way to experiment when you only like people you're emotionally close to but know if you fugg the guy you like you'll end up leading him on? I don't want to hook up because I literally don't feel attraction to random guys, but I'm really not sure if I'm bi so I feel like it sets a bad precedent to do it with someone I know.

>>8819796
For a while I was wondering if I was having kind of gay thoughts about him because HE was gay, but then I realized it doesn't really work like that.

>>8819809
I mean, I guess.This all started because I was thinking about how I get crushes on girls and want to date them but never want to do anything other than kiss or hold hands. I've never wanted to have sex with them and I have to focus really hard to get even a little turned-on by the idea.

Then for various reasons I started realizing that I've wanted to do all the same things with a few guys I've known and it kind of snowballed from there. I definitely want to have sex with guys though. Even if I don't with girls.

>>8819830
If I'm being honest, that's pretty much it. I'm also worried about screwing things up in general since we're so close. I'm not sure if it's a good idea, but I want it really bad.

>>8819892
>I mean, I guess.This all started because I was thinking about how I get crushes on girls and want to date them but never want to do anything other than kiss or hold hands. I've never wanted to have sex with them and I have to focus really hard to get even a little turned-on by the idea.
>Then for various reasons I started realizing that I've wanted to do all the same things with a few guys I've known and it kind of snowballed from there. I definitely want to have sex with guys though. Even if I don't with girls.

tbhqhon you just sound gay, or not more than incidentally bi.

I've felt pretty much the same in reverse through my life (crushes on guys as a teen but never wanted to do anything but hug, couldn't even tongue and definitely couldn't into sex), very sexually attracted to girls. I know I've hopped into bigen but I consider myself les.

>>8819892
then dont be a pussy and open up really. i am pretty sure he has similar feelings towards you.

i dont know why you dont want to get closer with girls though but its natural to be afraid of what will happen if he says no. it ll probably be a bit awkward couple of days but then it ll turn back to normal but i believe he wants you as well.

>>8819850
This is too relatable

>>8817646
I would fug mtf, guys, cis girls, but not ftms

so I id as bi, not pan

So there's this guy I kinda like. We've been on a date once and he is very much into me. We really connect, but more on an emotional level. He's pretty cute though. Does it make sense to hook up?

I'm a 21ish old virgin and I find dating women (or people in general) quite hard because I can't seem to get physical with them (as I'm an awkward virgin). I feel losing my virginity would make every so much better. Any ideas?

>>8818646
I'll have to look for it when I get a moment to myself. I'm sure it'll give me a good chuckle.

>>8819687
Aaaah, yes, being the big quiet guy in school with the patience of a saint and the confidence of a limp doe. Changed in middle school when I finally snapped after being yanked around one too many times. BUT! As far as you go, have a talk with him and be honest. If you're worried about ruining your friendship, nothing gained from doing nothing. And if you're good friends, it'll survive rejection if it comes to that but I really do think the outcome will be much better than you expect. You already have a great foundation for a romantic relationship, having the shared experiences you already have together and the friendship that's developed from it.

>>8820052
I'm a girl, so, take my advice with a grain of salt, but if you're totally a virgin, no need to go 0 to 100. Make out one day but stay above the waist / keep pants on w/e, make out + hand jobs another, then oral, and so on... next thing you know you're getting splorched by a man in a pink gimpsuit who you address as "My Lord, My Light."
I think when it comes to virginity, you should take a "rip it off like a bandaid" approach. Because the longer your a virgin the more your confidence is affected.
The first time I did anything sexual, I did not feel ""ready"", but I was interested, so I did it.
Be safe & don't get super gonorrhea!

>>8819986
y no liek ftms?

>>8820121
I like fems and dicks, they're literally neither

>>8820112
Thanks a lot. And I will :)

>>8819850
>>8819979
I should also add that he literally had a crush on me for two years, so I'm not just memeing when I say it'd be leading him on and could really hurt him, especially since I'm certain I like girls more even if I could be bi. Another friend said the responsible thing to do is not go there.

>>8819912
Really? Even though I have romantic feelings for women and stuff? I guess that kind of makes sense. Before I thought I just had a low sex drive or something. Turns out that's really wrong.

>>8819913
>i dont know why you dont want to get closer with girls

I don't know either. I tried once when I was in high school but it just felt weird and like something was off. I've never really had much interest, even though I still get crushes on girls. I probably wouldn't date one again though just because I kind of want both sex and romance to be part of any relationship I have now.

>its natural to be afraid of what will happen if he says no. it ll probably be a bit awkward couple of days but then it ll turn back to normal

I hope so. I can't imagine him not wanting to be my friend anymore because of it since he's such a good person.

>i believe he wants you as well.
God it'd be so nice if he did. I like him so much. Both as a friend and as more than that. I think he feels the same at least from a friend standpoint. I've been really reluctant to follow what I want to do, but he's really encouraged me. I've done the same for him, but it still really means a lot to me.

>>8820174
Have you tried doing anything sexual with girls you really liked? That's how I realise I definitely wasn't into guys despite pseudoromantic attraction to them.

>>8820083
He's always been kind of big and I think he wound up getting a complex about it for a while when we were younger. He hit puberty early too so that didn't really help. He was big, athletic and shy and whenever he was called on to read or answer in class he'd choke and turn red so people thought he was dumb too. It really did a number on him. He's still really shy and unsure of himself, but he's getting better. Now that people don't mess with him, I think he's more confident.

>You already have a great foundation for a romantic relationship, having the shared experiences you already have together and the friendship that's developed from it.

I hope so. Like I said he looks at me sometimes and it makes me all achey and it's kind of hard to breathe. But I feel really happy and sometimes I think he does too.

>>8820210
Yeah. I dated this girl in high school before I went off to college that I really, really liked. Almost as much as I like my friend now. Like, feeling all mushy, doodling her name the whole 9 yards. All that dumb shit. But even just sliding my hand up under her shirt felt really off and uncomfortable.

(Okay I was gonna keep this short but it turned into a huge rant, so let me just get this off my chest I guess.)

Man, reading some of this shit about long-term platonic friends possibly being into each other is making me feel. The guy who's probably the closest thing I had to a best friend since around 11 or 12 is really the only guy I've ever had real feelings for. (Maybe even the only person? I get pretty frequent crushes on girls but am too spergy to get close to one.) Anyways, for several years we were just really close in a way I've never been with anyone else. I'm a pretty small dude and was an even smaller kid while he was always fairly athletic, so at school I would always notice him being subtly protective of me, and that felt nice. Outside of little things like that we just seemed to relate to each other a weird way that we've never got from anyone else, and from things he's said I do think he felt somewhat similarly.

And then sometime around halfway through high school he sort of started becoming a kind of toxic person. Or at least I think, I worry its sometimes just me being too emotional and misinterpreting our friendship, but every few months or so he'd lash out at me or our friend group or something. I'd always try and cool things down and after a week or so everything would return to normal. But this became a relatively common thing, and though he did always seem to be the source of it I can't be too sure.

cont. in next post

>>8820289
(cont.)

Once we graduated we went to different Universities, but our general friend group kept in touch. During the holidays we'd all get back together, but still he'd occasionally have some outburst and get really angry at me or a friend and then wouldn't talk to us for months. Every time after this happened I'd always tell myself this would be the last time and I wouldn't talk to to him ever again and yada yada but of course one day he texts me and I text back and things go back to normal and we hang out and have a lot of fun and I scold myself for being such an emotional bitch, and then he lashes out at me (for things that I legitimately cannot tell if they're justified or not) and the whole thing repeats.

We're currently in our last year of college and I think I'm the only one from our original core friend group that still talks to him. I'm still friends with all of them but he's either distanced himself from them or vice versa (he still has some other friends from High School that I'm not as close to, and they don't seem to hate him so that's why I'm hesitant to say he's the source of all the drama). At this point I do not understand the dynamic of our friendship. I don't know if I'm still emotionally attracted to him after all this shit, but when we're together one on one we still do really well and have some great moments. However I feel like he just keeps me around because he feels bad for me. He's sort of flourished a bit the past few years, and me not so much. He's very attractive and charming and gets tons of female attention while I get none. He lost his virginity in high school and I'm still a virgin, which he knows.

And the underlying thing of all this I'm fairly certain he's like aggressively straight. Not like homophobic or anything but I can't imagine he has any same-sex feelings, and even if he did he could a lot better than me.

sorry one more post to come...

>>8820290
(cont.)

It's even more frustrating because we both have turned into "creative" types and it turns out he's sort of a genius with a ridiculous work ethic. So now not only am I dealing with a complicated mix of platonic/intimate/sexual feelings but this other kind of intellectual/creative envy and admiration. Like I'm not exaggerating when I say he might literally become some kind of an Oscar winning screenwriter. Meanwhile I write mediocre folk songs in my bedroom.

I have a feeling I should probably get as far away from this dude as I can for my own sake, but cutting off such a long held and meaningful relationship like this is just super difficult. I just don't know what to do. I don't know if he's just a normal guy and I'm taking everything way too heavily because of my waning but still present feelings for him or what. Meanwhile my life is a mess in basically every other way and this isn't helping.

Sorry for my bitching.

>>8820288
Yeah, I'd say you're gay. Call it homosexual biromantic if you want to, I kind of feel like that. But sexually you definitely sound gay.

I really want to find out what happens if you do confess to your friend, don't forget to tell us how it goes.

>>8820289
Holy frick this is long so I'm going to respond before reading your two (cont.)'s.
I have a BFF since 12-13 and she kinda "went toxic" in high school in some ways as well. Occasionally I have gay feelings for her, but I think it's best to stay friends and maybe half-jokingly form a "if we're both spinsters, we should enter a relationship of convenience pact" lol. I like having her as a BFF because I can accept her for her faults, and she can do the same of me. If we were to date I think we would lose that acceptance for each other being shitty in some ways.

>>8820356
Yeah sorry bout the length, I'm not very good at the whole brevity thing.

But yeah I went on to explain how we really probably aren't good for each other even as friends and this whole thing is one sided, so that wouldn't really work with us anyways. Not to be sexist or anything but I imagine the dynamic has to be different between two women and two emotionally uncommunicative guys with dumb egos but yeah. Thanks for the thought though.

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>20, f
>every past relationship has been LDR and with men
>technically a virgin, was raped at a young age
>depression, anxiety, etc. you get the gist
>want a relationship, don't care if it's gay or straight I just want someone
>also have no self esteem, body is gross, no one ever looks at me twice
>recently went out of my comfort zone to attend a local weeb event to make friends
>meet a girl who was perfect in every way
>my only friends that I have (online of course, don't have any friends irl) encourage me to pursue her
>find out next day she has a girlfriend and was with her for the weeb event
>cry myself to sleep

I'm 20 and I'm just tired of having fake online relationships that I use as an emotional crutch because I have no confidence to meet people irl. I'm not the most mentally stable person either and it's hard for me to just function sometimes.

I'm getting by but barely. I just wish I could meet someone but the more things don't work out the less confidence I have in myself. I would like to lose weight but I struggle with disordered eating and it's either binge eat or don't eat over 800 calories a day. I understand I should probably go back to therapy but after being in and out of it most of my life, I'm tired. Most days I want to die...

Sorry for the rant ;_; any advice is appreciated.

>>8820425
start lifting weights and playing sports

once you get into good shape you'll have more desirable partners

>>8820304
Shit that seems kind of bad. What sort of stuff does he get pissed off at you for?

I can't really relate or offer you advice because my friendship with this guy is pretty much the exact opposite. Sorry.

>>8820334
>homosexual biromantic

That seems kind of complicated, but it makes sense. I probably won't tell people that sort of thing since most people have a hard enough time wrapping their heads around the 'bisexual' thing as it is.

I'm kind of trying to figure out what I want to say and how I'm going to bring it up right now. Part of me wants to bitch out and text it all to him because I know I'll be nervous, but I think he deserves better than that.

>>8820356
>If we were to date I think we would lose that acceptance for each other being shitty in some ways.

I'm worried this will happen to me.

>>8820425
I think it's going to be hard for you to get a relationship while you're not mentally stable. You're probably going to have to work on your mental health and looking after yourself first. Keep trying with events, meeting new people should make you feel less cripplingly lonely even if you don't date them.

Also my gut reaction for advice is to try to make yourself feel better and get more confidence about relationships by experimenting with new and advanced levels of masturbation, but that's because I'm a rotten girl, so.

>>8820288
In front of the class, I could just FEEL the sweat squeezing from my pores for the longest time. Was so afraid of coming off as stupid or just failing that I did fail and did look stupid. I can most definitely empathize, and am thankful I worked up the gusto to stand up for myself before I went into high school. Worked wonders. I think, too, a nice relationship might help him further. Nothing like having someone to care about you like no other to boost that confidence.

>I hope so. Like I said he looks at me sometimes and it makes me all achey and it's kind of hard to breathe. But I feel really happy and sometimes I think he does too.

If you didn't have such a special fella, I'd eat you right up. I can just imagine how adorable the two of you must be when you're together.

>>8820432
>>lose acceptance for each other
>worried this will happen to me
I mean, that's part of the point of friends: people you can love fiercely but at the end of the day don't have deal with their shit and your commitment to them can scale up and down throughout the relationship and it's fine. Friend is being an asshole? Distance yourself a bit but still get dinner/drinks every once in awhile. Friend stops taking care of themself? Oh well, you're not the one fucking them. If it's your bf/gf you still have to see them all the time or live with them and cohabitate in a level above simply roommates. And you can't just "dial back" your relationship... that's called being shitty or being off/on again.

>>8820432
>What sort of stuff does he get pissed off at you for?
Just stupid little shit that barrels into larger things.Once we were literally just having this dumb conversation about the prevalence of salsa as compared to ketchup and me and my friend disagreed with him which for some reason he took really personally and started raging at us for, so I called his reasoning pretentious which he took even more personally and he stopped talking to us.

The most recent time was on his 21st birthday, and we were having a sort of informal hang out at one of our friends' house. Our friend had invited two other people, and he get really upset at that for messing up the vibe or something, so he turned that into us just trying to appease him and not wanting to hang out to begin with, (though I had nothing to do that with that anyways) so the following day he wrote some long declaration about cutting off all contact with us.

Then of course about a month after he texts me again with this half apology saying he was being hasty. And now we're talking again. So yeah I just don't know, I think him and I are both in some ways mentally unstable and neither of us can help the other. But yeah no worries about not being able to help, I know this is a fucked up "relationship".

>>8820453
That's pretty much exactly how it was with him. The crazy thing is he's brilliant at math. He wants to be an accountant and he used to be worried that he's not smart enough. But now he's taking the classes and acing all of them. I think being away from how it was in high school has given him some confidence and I'm trying to help, too. He's done the same for me, honestly. I used to be kind of worried about how "uncool" it was that I like cooking, but he's encouraged me to go after it. Cooking for him is fun, anyway.

>I can just imagine how adorable the two of you must be when you're together.

Our friends comment on it sometimes. They mostly joke about how whipped he is, but I think it's a two-way street. I'm just less obvious about it. I may or may not have gotten really drunk on my birthday and he may or may not have piggybacked me home and put me to bed. I may or may not have serenaded him with love songs the whole way there.

>>8820461
I mean part of me can't see that happening because we're pretty tight friends and we're pretty good about talking shit out. But I'm still worried that something is going to happen and we won't be friends anymore.

>>8820477
Yeah that's kind of dramatic of him. Seems like you've got to spend a lot of time walking on eggshells.

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>>8820425
Hang in there buddy, It'll be ok

>>8820691
Oh yeah, being away from the environment can help loads, not including the whole 'fresh start in a new place' like Uni.
>I used to be kind of worried about how "uncool" it was that I like cooking, but he's encouraged me to go after it. Cooking for him is fun, anyway.
Whaaaat? If you can cook where I come from, you're mighty popular! And...You know the old saying, right? Fastest way to a man's heart is through his stomach. Just more certainty that things will be alright.

>I may or may not have gotten really drunk on my birthday and he may or may not have piggybacked me home and put me to bed. I may or may not have serenaded him with love songs the whole way there.
Oooohoho, stop, you're giving me diabetes!

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is only me? or are bi guys way chiller with their masculinity than gay guys?

i mean, gay guys can be very insecure about their own masculinity, bi guys can be feminine or masculine but unlike gay guys they don't have problems with masculinity, many gay gus are obsessed with being "100% masculine gay macho man", others are resentful at masculinity and masculine gay/bi men, but bisexuals are usually pretty chill about it, no obsessed, resentful, hating or worshipping masculinity, just being yourself, that can be masculine or feminine.

some lesbians have problems with femininity, but like bisexuals they are usually way chiller with it unlike gay guys that have a weird relationship with it, worship it or hate it.

>>8819111
What coast are you on?

>>8821999
Maybe it's in part to being more accepting and attracted to GNC peeps, so they care less about whether they come across GNC?

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>>8822018
mediterranean, italy.

>>8822025
yes, that have some sense, but in any case gay guys are very insecure about masculinity, ones hate it, other love it, but too many of them are insecure with it in a way or another

>>8822098
I'm East Coast, US so I'm not sure how well the connection will be but I'd play Tekken sometime.

>>8820830
Yeah, that's kind of what I thought. Plus since he's not hearing negative shit all the time, it's easier for him to listen to me when I tell him all that stuff is bullshit.

>Whaaaat? If you can cook where I come from, you're mighty popular!

I had some funny ideas about that kind of thing when I was younger. I thought it was lame or girly or whatever and that people might make fun of me for doing it. Cooking for him and my mom kind of got me over it. It's really cool to see someone enjoy something you made for them.

>Just more certainty that things will be alright.
I hope so. I wrote this dumbassed long letter last night but then decided that was lame and threw it away. I'll figure out what to say eventually.

>Oooohoho, stop, you're giving me diabetes!
I wound up convincing him to stay with me and we shared a bed. I think that's what kind of made me start to half-suspect something.

>>8821999
Oddly enough my friend (gay) was a lot more laid back about that kind of thing when we were younger. He still is, but when I was in high school I was really worried about that stuff. I thought I only liked girls back then, though.

>>8822358
>It's really cool to see someone enjoy something you made for them.
Certainly encourages you to do it more, part of what got me into it.

>I'll figure out what to say eventually.
You will, and if you don't mind maybe keep us updated! I'd love to know how it turns out.

>I think that's what kind of made me start to half-suspect something.
Any spooning?

>>8821999
From my own experience? I've noticed this a bit. Several of the masc gay guys I know are always trying to assert their masculinity like everyone needs to be reminded that they are masculine. Though, there's a few gay twinks I've been acquainted with that are touchy about their lack of masculinity, while others embrace and love it. So kind of either end of the spectrum with them. As for bi's, yes, they seem more chill about it. Sorry if I haven't been able to articulate this very well, kind of tired when I saw your post.

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>like girls my entire life
>date a trans girl
>the relationship was pretty shitty overall
>learned I love dick, especially giving blowjobs (not sure about receiving anal yet, still iffy on it)
>still don't find boys in general attractive
What do

Also I play Ed or Alex in SFV, Jin in Tekken 7, Bane in Injustice 2, Es the few times I've played BBCF, and planning on Cap/Jedah/Reality Stone for MvCI. (Not sure about my DBFZ team but I know it's gonna have 16.)

So I'm pretty new to this board and I can't tell if it's turning me gayer or just making me realize I'm gayer than I thought I was.

Pretty much the extent of my bisexuality for years was just occasionally fapping to gay porn when I'd get bored of straight stuff, but I swear something about seeing same sex stuff normalized on here is making me gayer by the day. Like today I caught myself fantasizing about having a cute boyfriend and just doing gay shit together, and not like butt sex gay shit. Even gayer stuff, like holding hands in the park and drinking the same milkshake with two straws and him holding me close to his chest while I kiss his body in a loving but not even sexual way.

Like what the fuck is happening to me. I used to just feel that way about girls, I legitimately don't know if I can deal with actually being equally attracted to both genders. That just seems way too fucking confusing and complicated.

>>8824643
So you've learnt you like cis girls and non-op trans girls. No big deal.

>>8824764
>So I'm pretty new to this board and I can't tell if it's turning me gayer or just making me realize I'm gayer than I thought I was.
The latter. DESU I'm surprised you picked up such pure emotions from this board, this place is a cesspool.

>>8824285
>part of what got me into it

You like to cook too? What's some of your favorites? Lately I've been really into baking and just desserts in general for some reason. I made mascarpone last weekend.

I'll definitely give you an update. I was up all night thinking about it and barely got any sleep. I wasn't upset or stressed or anything like that, though. Just restless and kind of lovesick, I guess.

>Any spooning?
I mean, kind of? We were facing each other so it wasn't really spooning in that sense. I was pretty drunk so when I try to think of how we were I just think 'tangled' without really remembering who was doing what. Apparently I told him I liked his face, though. I don't remember much from that night, honestly. But at least he made me coffee the next day and stayed with me. Which was nice because I had the worst hangover ever. I made him dinner another time as a thank you.

>>8824643
A toughie. Maybe you'll develop an attraction for guys as time goes on or you might try your hand at femme tops. If not those, either try another trans girl who isn't disgusted by her male genitals or just stick to women.

>>8824764
>So I'm pretty new to this board
Welcome, friend.

>Even gayer stuff, like holding hands in the park and drinking the same milkshake with two straws and him holding me close to his chest while I kiss his body in a loving but not even sexual way.
D'awwww, sounds cute.

>I legitimately don't know if I can deal with actually being equally attracted to both genders. That just seems way too fucking confusing and complicated.
Woah, muchacho. Let's keep our heads. Nothing complicated about it, just seems that way now because it's new to you. You can like girls and you can like guys, that's it. No need to hyper inflate it into anything else, that's just over complicating it for no good reason.

>>8824982
>You like to cook too? What's some of your favorites?
I do indeed, though most of my dishes are Southern Comfort, Cajun, or Mexican. My absolute favorite has to be Cajun Fried Alligator, and I'm always sure to use Louisiana Hot Sauce in the marinade, not the iffy off brand stuff. Any other favorites are kinda all over the place.
>I made mascarpone last weekend.
Ooooh, haven't had that in a good long time.
>Just restless and kind of lovesick, I guess
I'd about imagine in your situation. All that anticipation and what not.
>Apparently I told him I liked his face, though.
Pfffffft, he confirm it for you? Surely he's suspicious if all this is the case.

>>8818223

>age
19
>gender
male
>favorite book
Not sure. Maybe "The Road"?
>favorite film

>favorite television series
Fargo
>what do you do for a living/what do you study if you're a student
computer science
>favorite album
???
>how many languages do you speak
English(fluent), Chinese(semi-fluent), Japanese(barely fluent, studied for a year in uni)
>when did you know you were bisexual
About 1.5 years ago when I started fantasizing about guys
>favorite type of music genre
chinese/japanese pre-00's rock, modern j post-rock and 00's kpop
>any plans for the future
Find a bi east asian guy like myself to hook up with...hopefully.. one day

>>8825133
Jealous. I've kind of dabbled in Cajun and Mexican a little bit, but since they're from cultures I'm not a part of I always feel like I have to research shit to make sure the recipe I've got isn't some watered down bullshit. I want to make the real deal. One day I'd love to go to Louisiana just to experience the food culture there.

>Ooooh, haven't had that in a good long time.

It was coffee flavored. I did alright, but I'd like to experiment with it. The consistency was pretty good though and that's the important thing since I plan on using it as a part of a bigger dish. Once I get it perfected I'd like to use it to frost a cake or something. There's this parfait sort of thing that's amaretto-soaked chunks of pound cake layered with whipped cream and chocolate pudding. I'd like to try to substitute the whipped cream for the mascarpone and see how that tastes.

>I'd about imagine in your situation. All that anticipation and what not.
Pretty much. I'd be lying if I said I didn't spend a good chunk of that time just day dreaming and thinking about him in general though.

>Pfffffft, he confirm it for you?
A friend of ours told me. She said that he was worried about me taking another shot and trying to talk me out of it and that I just smushed his face between my hands and said "I like your face.". He didn't comment on it.

>Surely he's suspicious if all this is the case.
Sometimes I wonder, honestly. But I get the feeling that even if I were really blatant he wouldn't get it. He once told me he didn't even understand why I wanted to be his friend when we first met. I could see him feeling the same way about something like that which is a shame because it's total bullshit. He's great.

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>>8825305
>I've kind of dabbled in Cajun and Mexican a little bit, but since they're from cultures I'm not a part of I always feel like I have to research shit to make sure the recipe I've got isn't some watered down bullshit.
Best way to learn is from the source. I have the luxury of being from and living in the south so I have relatively periodic access to both cultures.
>It was coffee flavored.
Hoooo, man. Love coffee flavored anything but mascarpone? Oh! Would make a great topping for brownies, maybe with crushed pecans sprinkled on top...
>There's this parfait sort of thing that's amaretto-soaked chunks of pound cake layered with whipped cream and chocolate pudding. I'd like to try to substitute the whipped cream for the mascarpone and see how that tastes.
Hey, now that sounds great. The countering flavors should give it pretty dynamic taste, excite the buds a bit.
>'d be lying if I said I didn't spend a good chunk of that time just day dreaming and thinking about him in general though.
Diabetes, I swear. Gonna have to loose a foot on account of all this sweetness.
>I just smushed his face between my hands and said "I like your face."
The imagery is quite clear, would imagine the only thing that kept him from giving you a good smooch was because you were plastered. Which is good on him, a responsible guy.
>Sometimes I wonder, honestly. But I get the feeling that even if I were really blatant he wouldn't get it.
Yeeeeah, a symptom of low-eslf esteem. I remember when I had zilch in the way of confidence. People would hit on me left and right but it'd go right over my head, couldn't quite comprehend why on earth someone would think of me like that. Just couldn't see it, like a persistent mental block. But now that you've been friends for this long, coupled with the before mentioned incident, I think he might be more likely to believe you. Maybe not right away but a lot faster than he might have in the past.

>>8826058
*lose

>>8821999

i've seen similar opinions on this where gay men or the overly masculine straight guys have to assert their masculinity to convince themselves of their "manliness". i feel like bi people tend to not care about the idea of masculinity cause it doesnt make sense to keep up a facade of being manly when you swing both ways.

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>>8824764
I'm pretty close to following through on the gayest of gay stuff like that, despite never even experimenting yet. A 21 year old twink took some initiative with me and it's just melting my heart to see the effort. Going to go out on a date with him on the 10th and I can't stop thinking about it.

>>8818223
>age
23
>gender
M
>favorite book
The illustrated man - ray bradbury
>favorite film
Anything stallone, arnie, bruce willis, mel gibson
>favorite television series
The simpsons, mitchel and webb stuff, black books, father ted
>what do you do for a living/what do you study if you're a student
Recent graduate looking for electronics work
>favorite album
Jeff Wayne's - The war of the worlds
>how many languages do you speak
1
>when did you know you were bisexual
only since recently even though i wanked to gay porn off and on since i was 12
>favorite type of music genre
Don't have a favourite
>any plans for the future
get job, get a place, find love and be a better man.

How do I deepthroat without vomiting?

>>8818223
>age
18
>gender
male
>favourite book
fight club
>favourite film
pulp fiction
>favourite television series
bojack horseman
>What do you study
English Literature and English Language
>favourite album
1989 by Taylor Swift
>how many languages
fluent English, pretty good French but not perfect
>When did i know i was bi?
When i watched Chris Hemsworth in Thor back in 2011
>favourite music genre
either rock or rap
>plans for the future
study press and editorial photography at university

>>8826931
gradually break your gag reflex by shoving bigger things down your throat until it eventually stops working. or, just nearly choke to death as a kid like i did, that tends to work too.

>>8826931
Practice with a dildo. Get and 8-incher and just have fun with it each day. You'll get it.

>>8826058
>I have relatively periodic access to both cultures.
See, I live in that region too. But I don't know anyone from either group that's interested enough in cooking to give me some tips. The female friend I mentioned in my last post is Chinese though. Her mom loves to cook so she's showed me a lot. I apparently make pretty good hot and sour soup.

>Love coffee flavored anything
Same. I figured it would compliment the amaretto and chocolate flavors well. I'll definitely try the brownie idea, too.

>Gonna have to loose a foot on account of all this sweetness.
It makes me embarrassed as fuck sometimes because I'm usually not the type to get like this. But I guess it's alright.

>the only thing that kept him from giving you a good smooch was because you were plastered
That definitely seems like something he would do. He's like one of the most thoughtful, kind people I know even if most people assume otherwise because of how he looks.

He's had people hit on him since we went to college and he totally doesn't pick up on it, so you're probably right. It's mostly been girls and he always just thinks they're being really nice to him. Either way, hopefully shit will go better for me. We're supposed to hang out this afternoon and if I don't lose my nerve I might talk to him about it.

Fellas who have or have had girlfriends, how did they react to learning you were bi, specifically with sexual stuff?

It already seems relatively impossible to get a girl interested in me, and I can't imagine those that are 100% okay with their boyfriend liking dick are too common. I mean so much of straight sexuality seems based on the guy being assertive and dominant, which I'm fine with doing with girls, but I have to imagine that for most the thought of her boyfriend bottoming and being sexually submissive to other men would be a huge turn off. It's weird, I wouldn't even have these hang ups if I were more interested in topping, but something about this specifically worries me.

And the thing is I do overall prefer hetero stuff, but I don't want to just lie about that other side of me. It just seems incredibly unlikely that I'll actually find someone who is attracted to me and likes me for how I am, as juvenile and corny as that sounds?

>>8828456
>See, I live in that region too. But I don't know anyone from either group that's interested enough in cooking to give me some tips.
Ah, well, growing up in a kind of mini-ghetto where I was one of two white kids for a few years had something to do with learning Mexican dishes. Most of my neighbors were Mexican, and thus so were most of friends were. I, too, was the kid who was chatted with the parents just as much as I was the kids, especially the moms, of whom I learned to cook from, like you did with your friend. Then moving to a more rural area later, I befriended others, some of which were Cajun, and so learning from their mothers.
>I apparently make pretty good hot and sour soup.
Huh, never made any myself but damn it's good when it's done right.
>I figured it would compliment the amaretto and chocolate flavors well.
Very much so, I myself will have to fix some up next time there's a party.
>It makes me embarrassed as fuck sometimes because I'm usually not the type to get like this.
Just means a lot more since you don't usually get all like this. Definitely something special.
>He's like one of the most thoughtful, kind people I know even if most people assume otherwise because of how he looks.
Ha, yeah. Look like a big broad beardo who might be in a biker gang but under all the hair and stern expression, can be just a big teddy bear. Or that's been my case.
>Either way, hopefully shit will go better for me. We're supposed to hang out this afternoon and if I don't lose my nerve I might talk to him about it.
Do it, you fool! But seriously, I've got a good feeling about it. I believe you'll do just fine and it'll work out great.

>>8828540
Date a bi girl who understands.

>>8811726
Rare, but hell if I'm going to trust anyone to do that properly. So, medium rare has to pick up the pace.

>>8829105
I'm the same way. If I get a steak from a restaurant or a friend is cooking, I ask for medium rare. If I'm making it, I'll go rare because I only trust myself to do it correctly.