How to stop Gender dysphoria?

>>8792942
Suicide and transitioning are the only "cures" that i know of

>>8792956
What about those anons saying that they cured it?

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>>8792942
depends on how bad your dysphoria is and other specifics.
you can try to mitigate all the co-disorders like anxiety and depression with appropriate drugs
and find the ways to fulfill your social and personal needs - whatever they are - as much as it's possible without the gender/sex change

taking hrt without transition is an option too, you will at least prevent masculinization and leave a chance for transition few years later depending on your situation
plus it can have good mental effect and ease your suffering - hard to tell how much of it is placebo or real neurological antidepressant effect of estrogen but it works for many (and for me)

>>8792969
i have never seen anyone serious say that. maybe the dont trap yourself guy.

>>8792971
It's bad.

>>8793001
Who is he?

Stop being scared and looking for answers that aren't there and transition already. I was like you once and after hrt i feel much better. It wasn't as bad as I was making it out to be in hindsight.

>>8793015
see repgen
there are many people who try to get over it without transition/hrt but its a lot of struggling and most of them arent happy even if they manage to get by

>>8793048
>transition
>go from being a confident though miserable and very dysphoric(but at least sorta attractive) guy to being a miserable worthless anxious unlove-able hon
>just feel bad in different ways now

Hey things don't work out for everyone anon.

>>8793069
Thanx, I'll take a look.

Ok, here come fellow repressor and let me write this quite at lenght. Firstly, how old are you? And how your dysphoria usually manifest? Are you into girls, guys or both? When is it worse, when is it better? Which is primary reason for not transitioning? Mine is my deep Catholic faith and worldview that come with it.

Now, while it is not known how to get rid of it, I found some way to lessen it. Firstly, find expression of masculinity that you are comfortable with, it is not to masculine that it is umberable and not to feminine to trigger you further. I couldn't keep on aggressive masculinity, but I could live in rolle of upper middle class academic. I can talk more with hands, dress nice and nobody blink an eye, while it is still masculine enough to give me sense of worth as man.

Avoid focus too much on differences between man and women. It can trigger your dysphoria further and give you trigger to compare you with females. You can find gf and live through her. But what really work for me is detachment from reality. I live more in realm of ideas, languages and mind then is present realm. For example, avoid personal talks - discuss literature instead. Read more. Focus on things like that.

For the end, find worth in your male self and be proud of masculine qualities you have. Also, admit differences between male and female qualities to avoid too great escape from reality and recognise male ones in yourself - and this does not mean becoming caveman.

Good luck and may blessed Virgin help you.

>>8793073
spoiler: you wont find the answers there

>>8793085
30.

I've been repressing for so long, I want to cure it.

It generally manifest when I look at myself or when I'm failing at something. Also when someone is aggressive, or I'm angry. Anytime I have to struggle with bad feelings it gets worse.

But I feel it generally when I'm looking at myself.

I'm into girls, and... males, somewhat.

Family, I don't want to let them down.

The only expression of masculinity for me is being angry. Angry as fuck, like, being so angry that's almost gratuitous violence. Being mild angry just make me feel dysphoric.

I daydream a lot and live in the world of ideas a lot too. Thanks for your reply. In the end I think I'll have to continue repressing it.

>>8793138
I'm glad to help. It also come worse for me when I feel bad. I felt really bad last time when I hooked up with one girl. I broke commandments of my faith and also become envious of her beauty when lying next to her.

Ok, so you 30. Your interested and personality are mostly settled. What interest you? What are your hobbies? What is your profession/education? Think about this things and look into various male rolles. And don't listen to proletarian ideals of masculinity because they are bullshit.

So, if you can get agressive you can try martial arts. Try karate, aikido or something simmilar. It is not pure aggression and have ideals in its craft which can help you build self image as man.

I got advice from one Jungian psychologist that perhaps will help put more devotion into some feminine figures of my religion. I chose st. Hildegard of Bingen since she was scholar like me. This way I shall be able to project inner femininity into outward object.

And remember, life is struggle. You sre not in the worse position.

Pax et bonum

>>8793180
I'm working out and projecting myself into a character I created.

I guess some repressor endup having somewhat similar behaviors...

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Here's the one stop shop to stopping the dysphoria and living a happy life as a man, all you need to do is buy my water filters, testosterone supplements, and never masturbate again (it's a devil conspiracy to corrupt your mind, ignore anyone who says it's "necessary" or "healthy" to fap), then, burn your computer in the lake, as the internet and knowledge of trans people and dysphoria effects you, now that you managed to forget these things exist you're golden you win good job.

Or more realistically everyone who says they have a cure is a desperate lying turd.

>>8793209
Good. Just make sure that this character has some simmilarities to you, and that you could maintain it. I have to reinvent myself because first one I couldn't

>>8793218
None has the cure. There are things to make living with dysphoria easier.

>>8793225
Or just not be retarded and just, like, transition, or at least take hrt but not transition which has also been proven to help with this. The repression tactics seem like something straight from a /pol/ack or terf fantasy tbqh

>>8793229
My perspective come from my Catholicism and not from pol or terf. I don't see any other way for me. Luckily I got some great replys from Jungian here

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>>8793238
I never said you were one, I said you're their fantasy, your strategy makes them happy, it's exactly what they want.
Besides if you don't think modern day reactionaries are heavily inspired by a puddle deep interpretation of christian theology you'd just be wrong, they are.

Don't hurt yourself just to appease people who would never find a reason to justify you being anything but hurt.

>>8793242
I identify as reactionary. I'm from background when being reactionary is a must. However I consider fascist, nazist etc. Nothing else but modern movements of masses and powerful state. For real reactionary thought read something by Erik von Kuehnelt - Leddihn, John Lukacs, Nicolas Gomez Davila and not various pol idiots.

>>8793259
Not important, what's important is in 30 years when you finally snap and transition you remember that I told you repression doesn't work.

>>8792942
r u a terf

>>8792942

You can't feel like a man. You just are one. You don't get a choice. Cut your dick off, but it won't fucking change what you are.

There's no wrong way to be a man. That's just shit that society or your sex fetish has put in your head.

My advice: get off the computer and live in the wilderness for 2 or 3 years. Sounds like shit? Maybe. But better than getting a hideous ax wound.

>>8793262
No really how are you so sure? I really wonder. I make it quite ok 90% of my time

>>8793275
Just look around m8, people try but they're always just living in pain until eventually they have to transition or kill themselves, most of the threads here are evidence of this. You either do it early and have a chance or you listen to the reactionaries, the terfs, the straight cis /pol/acks who come here to talk shit, and you end up a disgusting hon just to appease them, your choice.

>>8793282

m8. if anything the threads here prove that transitioning does nothing but make you more dysphoric, depressed and more obsessed with being a tranny.

>>8793283
These threads are made by repressing people turned into self hating maniacs entirely because of their repression and for trying to suck up to people who hate them.

>>8793282
I think are some repressors who succed that you just don't hear about them. I'm not as young as you think. Mid to late twenties. I don't try to appease anybody just remain loyal to my faith and family. Appreciate your care though.

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>>8793296
>I don't try to appease anybody just remain loyal to my faith and family.
Really prompts one to consider using their head thingy to make thinking-thoughts

>>8793302
I hold m.a and on a path to ph.d. I use it for thinking. I returned to ideals after rebelling against.

I read that meds for OCD stop the dysphoric thoughts, is that true?

It doesn't cure it, just stop the thought.

>>8793305
Think about how being loyal to other people's will and desire for your life above your own, while suppressing your own and asking for advice on how to properly hold yourself and your will down so you can better please those external forces who dictate your decisions, is totally not appeasing anybody at all.

>>8793291

Lol. Most of the threads on /tttt/ are from depressed trannies talking about suicide.

Why would you making your happiness contingent on being mistaken for the opposite sex? What a stupid thing to do with your life.

>>8793343
It's from depressed non-passing trannies, depressing repressionfags, and bitter crossposters.

>>8793312
>>8793311

Ok, you are not talking to the OP, but to the poster of long reply. I don't consider my disphoria, agp etc. as my own, but as my feelings. I try to base my life on rational decisions instead which are guided by years of intelectual development.

>>8793272
>live in the wilderness
>better than getting a hideous ax wound.
But anon, what if he literally gets an axe wound?

>>8792942
take pimozide
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8839957

>>8792942
STOP LIVING, START FAPPING

>>8796161
Transition has no long-term proven benefits.
Don't trap yourself.
STOP FAPPING, START LIVING!

Don't trust ANY of the bitterhon shills in this thread, if you want to not transition, then do not let their traditional narrative of all repressors become hons.

>>>/repgen/ for real discussions. I know you bitterhons have been filling up /repgen/ as of late, but there will always be the shining light that is Cureanon.

>>8796191
But to sum it up, there's three things you need to do to cope with AGP/Trans/Dysphoria.

Firstly, you need to not feed your AGP/Trans/Dysphoria by fapping. This is the worst thing you can do. NoFap also builds discipline, and on it's own can be a cure in some cases of porn addiction.

Secondly, you need to seriously get the START LIVING part rolling as well. You need to find meaning, a cause, a purpose, something to spend your time and energy doing for as long as you can, ideally the rest of your life, but as life is constantly changing we do the best with what we have.

For me, that's telling the truth, exposing the bitterhons and NEVER trapping myself.

You need to find what makes you feel fufilled.

Thirdly, I'd reccomend unless you're trying to fight the bitterhons, to get off this board outside of /repgen/, and ignore all bitterhon posts. All mind-poison must be avoided. Look at the facts yourself.

There is zero evidence of transgenderism being an intersex thing, except for correlation=causation bullshit and low quality evidence.

>>8793311
Not a bad idea. Eugene Pichler claims anti-convulsant medication can fight AGP. His broscience theory is that AGP is a behavorial addiction.

I personally turned to weed and it took a lot of dysphoria away and toned my AGP down.

>>8796200
>implying

most late-trans are not gay and even being androphilic just trying to be a gay guy fails to relieve dysphoria

>>8792942
If you actually want to be a guy, and don't find the idea of being a man disgusting or at least extremely unappealing, honestly you're probably not trans. You might be non binary, but I'm not really sure what your problem is if you want to be a man? Or are you ftm?

>>8796344
See >>8793138
They only want to "be a man" as an alternative to being trans. Since they're trans they actually want to be female, but that idea seems out of reach compared to repression.

In reality neither is attainable, but a late physical transition (for most people social transition just makos things worse if you don't pass) is better than repression since it actually helps somewhat even if it won't make you as female as you need, whereas repression is unsustainable and drives you crazy, as evidenced by Cureanon and like half of repgen, and OP.

>>8796344
>>8796373
In fact, just read the OP again. Everything but "want to feel like a man" is saying "I really want to transition but I can't; please tell me there's another way". It's clear what it means from context.

>>8796377
Then why say they want to feel like a man? That's dumb. I mean, I guess male privilege might be nice if you didn't actually have to be a man or act anything like a guy to get it, but otherwise I don't really follow?

Because they don't feel able to be a woman because they can't transition successfully. If you were MtF, would rather be a cis male than suffer through the dysphoria, even though it's not what you *really* want? Can you at least see the thought process?

Repression holds the attraction of being a cure for dysphoria where there otherwise is none, even if it's not actually effective either.

Just look at all this, and tell me it says "I'm actually a cis male" and not "I don't want to be trans":
>Is it possible to at least stop feeling bad?
>I can't transition, I'm too repressed + family issues.
>How do I do it anons?
>Please, I've been questioning myself a lot lately, I kind want to die. =(
>Is transition the only way?
>There must be something else.

>>8796441
>>8796519

>>8796519
No, I am MTF, I never repressed, the thought of doing so seems kinda horrifying to me. Like I had my parents try to force me to do stuff, but I basically constantly failed at it and hated it and never wanted to do it. I physically transitioned basically as soon as I was able to, and basically never IDed as a man even before that, except when my parents would literally grab me and physically force me to (like for signing papers or whatever)

>>8796531
>>8796531
I wish I had your insight/strength when I was a kid/teenager. But most of us were really afraid of our religion, parents, families or society.

>>8796373
Who's this Cureanon guy?

>>8796197
Thanx, I'll try to find the strength to find a purpose.

I just end up giving up anything I want to do once I feel dysphoric.

>>8792942
I've heard it helps some people to live as a female for some time (second identity, internet...), but that's one of the last things you should try.
Also try being a more gender nonconforming male (but still obviously male).

Buy a dildo.

>>8792942
>I want to feel like a man

Start with manning up and acting like that male stereotype you aspire to

>>8793296
>I'm not as young as you think.
>Mid to late twenties
You're going to have to get a lot older before you can claim success, young one.

>>8796767
I'm cureanon.
Bitterhons like to slander me because I tell the truth.

To put it short, I'm one of many fighting for a cure for AGP/Trans/Dysphoria, and reject the traditional narrative of bitterhons, which is to trap yourself.

This has no long-term proven benefits.

>>>/repgen/ for more information

>>8796769
You're welcome, friend. It's difficult, and it's a battle, but you have to do what you have to do to keep living.

Whatever you do, don't trap yourself.
This isn't living, this is staying alive as a palliative treatment method.

>>8796776
This is actually true.
For people in late-stage AGP that NoFap and other methods has not helped, these are viable coping mechanisms.

I myself have lived as a woman on the internet for some time, before I found my purpose and found the truth, rather than falling for bitterhon lies.

There's no reason to not be GNC if it helps you, as long as it's strictly not fetish related. Many men don't conform to gender roles, which are fucking bullshit by the way.

As long as you do not take HRT or any steps to transition, Feel free to make yourself comfortable.

>>8799798
I would not actually reccomend "manning up" if you don't want to be a man. I'd reccomend finding ways to comfortably express your emotional and feminine side through male means without trapping yourself.

There's many ways to do this, but the most effective I've personally found is simply letting yourself be open to your feelings, rather than repressing them, but equally not letting them hold power over and control you.

You are a man, not a woman.
Or a woman. Not a man for FtMs.

While I do encourage /repgen/ as a whole, overall the best method in super late stage AGP/Trans/Dysphoria that is not helpable by normal methods is to simply accept you have a mental disorder, you can't change it until we have a true cure developed, and we have to live with it as best we can, be proud of surviving!

>>8792942
Become a girl IMO

How has repression helped your struggle in the past few years?

>>8800760
Everything in life is a struggle, really.
That's what life is all about in the end.

Repression has helped me and many others greatly, the main reason being we get to live a little longer.

Transition is essentially ending your current life, and creating a new falsehood to live under in order to feed your mental illness so you don't suicide. I stand strongly against this unless you have no other choice and it is a case of transition or suicide.

Trapping yourself dooms you into the path of taking pills for the rest of your life that actually cause you harm, and feed your mental illness bringing you closer to transition. Almost all of those who take HRT end up transitioning.

Those who don't either get off the pills or have an elevated risk of death for the rest of their life just to feed a mental illness which can only get worse in the long run.

If you're not already living as a repressor, you need to STOP FAPPING, START LIVING!

>>8800779
[citation needed] on this very low quality evidence. Bitterhon repressor anecdotes don't mean transitioning is ineffective.

>>8800791
There is zero evidence you can provide me of transition having long-term proven benefits without being low quality evidence, or correlation=causation bullshit brain studies.

Also I'm not a bitterhon.

>>8800743
>>8800779
Damn cure anon fighting the good fight! Makes me wanna repress.

I'm at the point where AGP has eaten my identity(my mind thinks i'm a woman). But transition would be tough for me cuz i'm older and have a masc body so its much easier to live as a man. Trying to stop fapping cuz I want to see what it feels like.

>you can choose to remain being a man
>your body is a man
>or you can become a hon with a destroyed body and mind that isn't either

Yeah no thank you. Even if my sexuality is broken I can go on pursuing my life interests and building myself instead of wrapping myself around sexuality and identity. There's tons of things I enjoy more.

>>8800424
You are right and repressing is taking its toll on me. Still, path is chosen.

>>8792942
>I want to feel like a man, how do I do that?
Drink beer, beat you wife.

>>8804817
>your

>>8800779
So you've never really cured yourself?

It's a lost battle.

It's over.

I'll try to focus on creating stuff, and I'll destroy each and every piece of mirror I've got.

>>8803042
You can fight this!
I believe in you.

Just make it 90 fays NoFap. You'll feel like a king.

>>8803063
This is very true. I'm stuck being asexual / AGP, but that's just how it is. Sex isn't everything in life, to me it's nothing.

>>8804817
Abusing people isn't masculine.
Honorable fighting on the other hand, is.

>>8805137
Life is an eternal struggle, and a cure doesn't come out of nowhere.
Even if we had the cure right now (for some, NoFap can cure them. But in late-stage non-porn based AGP, there is not much to do apart from fight as best we can.

The battle is not lost. We are fighting for our existance. There is no way to win or lose in reality.
AGP/Trans/Dysphoric or not, we all fight every day.
Don't avoid mirrors, stare into them like I do.
Conquer yourself!
Resistance is victory.

>>8805180
>Abusing people isn't masculine.
>Honorable fighting on the other hand, is.
Does honorable fight with wife count?

>>8805180
Thank you cure anon, I tire of masturbation. I'll strive to get to 90 days. I was thinking about quitting /tttt/ to take my mind off of trans stuff, but I haven't quite been able.

>>8792942
Try going on testosterone, working out, developing an interest in cars and sports, growing facial hair, eating lots of meat, and give up masturbating or if you must only masturbate to men fucking women and self-insert as the man in that scenario.

>>8793001
I'm not cureanon and I cured myself. I'm being serious.

>>8806648
Tell us more.

>>8793222
Dudes got a point. You could follow the path of medicine and transition with a doctor's aid or you could find a waifu to desperately cling to and wish you were while distancing yourself from reality to the subtle detriment of anybody around you

>>8806648
What?
How?

>>8793283
Transitioning saved my life tho. I lost over a 100 pounds, moved out of my parent's house, got a job, reintegrated socially and im comfortable enough woth my body to have sex now whereas before even masturbation was just a fury of self loathing.

>>8792942
I've got bad GD but I deal with it by playing video games as the opposite gender, writing and fantasy.

It's not good enough, obviously but it dulls the pain a bit. I don't believe in transitioning, I don't think it will do anything except maybe ruin my perfectly healthy genitals.

It hurts every day but life is suffering.

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Gratia plena, ora pro nobis!

>>8796130
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8839957
>literally one subject
>no controls

this is pseudoscience at best, a proper study should be done on this though.

>>8806648
how???

>>8792942

So, let me start off by saying that I would recommend seeing a shrink and talking it out with someone qualified to do so. If you're concerned about family perception, you can just tell them that you're going for mental health reasons (assuming they'd need to know). Secondly, most people that repress these feelings do not live well, and many eventually attempt some form of transition, anyways. I've been in a few support groups and although it's anecdotal, I've seen these trends play out in front of me quite a few times (live in a crowded city and not in the south).

With that out of the way, your next step should be to keep a tidy headspace. You should avoid reading about trans issues. You should avoid fapping to trans porn. You should avoid fantasizing about feminine feelings, emotionally or sexually. Stop watching anime (seriously; the ridiculous amount of cute-girl focus these days is only going to make it worse). Seek out traditionally male employment. Grow a beard. Fap only to straight porn, and only fantasize about being the man. Take up a masculine hobby like woodworking or auto repair. Busy yourself with these things, and take time to reflect on your accomplishments, whether it be a productive day of physical labor, a lifting program you're adhering to, or making a useful item in your downtime (like a desk or rebuilding an engine part).

If you can keep off these kinds of places on the internet and do some or all of the above things, it could work. I want you to feel better, OP, but it's your life and if this is really what you want, then you should try it. Just don't be too upset with yourself if the feelings don't go away. They didn't for me, and I did all of these things in my early 20s.

Good luck.

>>8805625
As long as it's a mutual choice and actually honorable, then yes it would count.

>>8806600
Forget about being AGP/Trans/Dysphoric, and move on with your life!

You can do it, I know you can! Keep on the good fight, my friend.

>>8806609
Going on T is something to consider, unless it makes you more dysphoric. It's worth a try, but if it increases your AGP/Trans/Dysphoria, you're better off just going natural (without any added hormones).

Working out is good for everyone, and I'd highly reccomend it once you have the basics of your life down (Namely, you want to work on stuff like eating right first, before working out - and I'd also highly reccomend NoFap.)

Cars and sports are just hobby choices. You don't need to torture yourself if you don't like these things. Do whatever is enjoyable to you, as long as you don't trap yourself, feel free to get into more "feminine" activities. And no, feeding AGP is not feminine. It's feeding mental illness.

Facial hair is an aesthetic choice, and while globally seen as manly, it's not one all AGP/Trans/Dysphoric people should go towards.

The idea is to make yourself comfortable with being a man, not go full overboard masculine unless that's what you want to do of course!

Eating meat is a good idea, as it's loaded with protein and goes well with working out.
Fuck the vegans, personally. This is just my personal opinion.

Highly reccomend giving up masturbating, and if you must masturbate, make sure if you are able to, to masturbate without self-inserting as the woman, and only as the man.


Overall good ideas. minus some of the gender role stuff. Personally I don't see going way overboard in the masculinity as a path to a successful life unless that is truly what you want - but you must reclaim who you are as a man, and never let yourself think you are a woman. Nothing wrong with being a feminine man as long as you're a man.

>>8806648
How did you cure yourself? There are actually many who have out there!

>>8806830
Transition has no long-term proven benefits.

But going full weeaboo is not advised, as you're just fulfilling the AGP stereotype.

Nothing wrong with watching anime, or even being obsessed by it, but don't feed your AGP by wanting to become your damn waifu, or be with her as a girl.

No self-insertion, that feeds your AGP and is indirectly trapping yourself.

>>8806846
I'm glad it worked out for you. But long-term, transition has no benefits. Long-term, you may regret your choice. I hope you don't, and I hope it works out, but it's very common.

It can work out for some people simply because they bettered their lives unrelated to transition, but you can do that without transitioning.

The reason I say "STOP FAPPING, START LIVING!" is because it's a path for all of us to have better lives, without HRT or transitioning.

Don't trap yourself. However, if you're suicidal and have no other choice, I would reccomend transition only as an experimental palliative care method to keep you alive.

>>8806890
As long as it's making your AGP stable, and not getting any worse, this should be fine.

However, if it is progressing and getting any worse, you need to cut that shit out and start living rather than escaping to fantasy.

You can only escape for so long until real life catches up with you, take that from me - I used to do the same back in the day.

Playing MMOs nonstop as the other gender, living as a girl online and the whole deal.

I'd reccomend keeping those genitals in top shape and STOP FAPPING, START LIVING!

I wouldn't say life is suffering, but life is an eternal struggle. For some, this is suffering by default and there's not much they can do about it.

For others, they can grow to enjoy the struggle.

Whatever it is, transition won't help you with that. You need to find your own meaning in the struggle.

>>8807176
It's just as much psuedoscience as the no-controls, self-reported study, low-evidence and correlation=causation bullshit that the traditional narrative parrot as "science".

Don't trust bitterhons!

But I do agree, this is utter fucking bullshit.
The pimozide study is a joke. But it should be looked into further!

>>8807813
Shrinks won't help you in a lot of cases.
If the science is flawed and politicized, there's not much that can be done to help you in a therapy environment in regards to AGP/Trans/Dysphoria as they will just force you onto hormones.

However, if you are lucky enough to find the right therapist (This is next to impossible in some areas. Australia included!) then this may be an option worth considering.

Repression long-term is fairly unhealthy, but not as unhealthy as trapping yourself with mindbending, bodybending experimental palliative care drugs like HRT.

I can agree with not reading about trans issues completely however, I'd just avoid porn entierly as it's all bad when you self-insert as the woman for AGPs.

Completely agree in regards to fantasizing about AGP whatsoever, and I'd stop watching all anime apart from oldschool anime that isn't overly moe. It's just AGP fetish fuel in a lot of cases.

In regards to masculine activities / aesthetic, I'd reccomend against this unless you truly like the activities themselves. It can cause burnout in a lot of people and a resurgence of the AGP activities. You don't need to torture yourself into masculinity!

If you want to be a feminine guy (NO HORMONES) then so be it. There's nothing wrong with this as long as you don't use it to trap yourself or fantasize about being a girl in any way. Key word GUY.

The most important thing I'd say is finding purpose and meaning in your life, and finding a reason to keep pushing through all the shit of life.

Life is a struggle, you have to make it yours.

>>8807813
If I may piggyback on this...

Medical reasons forced me to repress up until a couple years ago. I made it through my 20's and 30's barely, suicidal, broken, hollow, depressed, and a literal shell. Would you believe in over 22 years I only ever had 3 pictures taken? That doesn't sound like much until 20 years down the line and you want to remember times gone by (not every second is pure hell, after all) only to find your fading memory is all you have left. But you can survive it.

But I'd add one thing to the previous poster's comment. It will be ~imperative~ that you learn to beat boredom, and NOT BY DOING PHYSICAL THINGS. When your drive dies in your 40s, you won't be rebuilding engines, running marathons, doing akido and judo, and hiking long trails most likely. You'll be lounging on the couch waiting to die because life means nothing.

FWIW, the moment my med issues were taken care of, I began transition. Only a literal idiot would want to go through what I did. And FFS, don't listen to that literal seething idiot Cureanon. He's a troll who wants to see trans people suffer.

>>8807941
I've actually never had a picture taken myself.

I don't enjoy having pictures taken of me and never will, nothing to do with dysphoria.

I value ideas more than pictures and people.
It's the ideas that live forever, not the person itself. Even though you are a bitterhon, remember that.

It's so important to find meaning in life, if you don't find it by 40 you're fucked AGP/Trans/Dysphoric or not.

You claim I am a seething idiot, but yet all I do is seek to help people. You are a bitterhon.
>>>/mtfg/

Rule 1: Don't trust bitterhons.
Rule 2: Don't trap yourself.

Don't fall for their bullshit.
Transition has no long-term proven benefits, and to date I have never been cited a study by a bitterhon that wasn't either:

Low quality evidence
Lacking controls
Correlation=causation bullshit

I'm still waiting, bitterhons. I'd love to be proven wrong.

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>>8807954
>I don't enjoy having pictures taken of me and never will, nothing to do with dysphoria.

That's what dysphoria is: not liking how you look.
Also, just because you keep repeating something, doesn't make it true.
Transition has proven long-term benefits for many people.
You're simply wrong.

>>8796191
Oh boy, here we go again.

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Dont worry we are working on a cure here is what we got so far

>>8808041
>we

>>8807941

I'm aware that we're on an Algerian Mitten-Knitting forum, but name-calling isn't going to be a helpful rebuttal against him. OP should do some research and decide for himself what the right choice is.

>>8807954
I'm not claiming to be an expert by any measure, but I think that most medical and psychiatric associations in Western and/or developed countries supporting trans identities and medical/social transition as an effective treatment for the condition should speak volumes.

I personally don't agree with you. WPATH cites trans individuals as on par with average people in terms of suicide likelihood post-transition as opposed to significantly more likely to commit suicide prior to treatment.

I understand your argument, however, in regards to the all able data. The truth is, trans people have been poorly studied in any kind of meaningful statistical way apart from suicide, murder rate, and population demographics. That will come with time and exposure, I suppose, and maybe you're right. I don't think you are, and on the same note, you havent yet provided any literature to the contrary. I've reviewed a handful of studies citing your beliefs, and almost all of them have been flawed in the same way you claim the evidence in favor of transition to be.

So we're at an impasse, but I can call on many large respected medical institutions to support my end. Can you? Ultimately, a person needs to decide for him or herself, and I can't say with absolute sure that one is right (although one is most likely right).

Buy a motor cycle and start going to the gym

>>8808002
[citation needed that isn't fuckin' bullshit] that I'm wrong

Also, I don't think anyone really likes how they look outside of egotists. We all have flaws.

Taking pictures for me however is more a reason of privacy than anything else. I don't wish to have photos taken and me be on record in any way, including public record(s) which I have opted out of as best I can.

There will always be some, but that is just my personal viewpoint - I much prefer anonymity and people's ideas, rather than their person being remembered.

>>8808005
I'll never stop fighting.

>>8808041
kek

>>8808240
>name-calling isn't going to be a helpful rebuttal against him. OP should do some research and decide for himself what the right choice is.

This poster gets it. It's about making an informed choice, and I am one of the informants for alternative viewpoints.

>appealing to authority with WPATH and associations
Not an argument.

I'd love to see some citations proving me to be wrong! Then we could get down to business as to what causes Dysphoria, and how to fix the brain directly, or alternatively better transition methods until trans people are basically 100% cis.

I agree we need more research, and I appreciate the fact you don't dismiss my argument out of spite.

Appeals to authority aren't evidence.

But all I wish to do is be the voice for those that do not wish to follow the traditional narrative, and see it as wrong.

Nothing more, nothing less.

The choice is yours in the end.
I am simply here to inform people that bitterhons are not the only voice, and I will not give up or give in to bullshit that has no evidence.

Claiming tradnarrative views as scientific is retarded, as there is no evidence of said viewpoints being accurate.

However, you're free to believe whatever you want to believe. Best of luck to you, and thanks for being respectful unlike your average bitterhon.

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>>8808386
>Buy a motor cycle
>fatally crash

thats my plan

>>8808774
Or fly to middle east and join Hezbollah.

>>8806767
>>8806841
>>8807282
>>8807891
By reading. I don't remember what it was, but it made me realize obsessing over this was stupid. Once I had realized that, it just went away on it's own. Maybe I just had tranny OCD and not real dysphoria.

>>8808861
awww

>>8808960
What?

>>8792969
I cured myself if it by becoming successful, dominant, and getting swole. I think it was all just a desperate need for physical affection that drove me to it, and once I had the physical affection of women I could have my way with it went away.

>>8809182
I don't think you're really dysphoric.

What exactly did you read?

>>8809222
I see.

>>8808861
Ah I see. Transgender OCD is a real thing.
Lucky one!

>>8809268
>I don't think you're really dysphoric.
That's exactly what I said. It was probably just OCD.
>What exactly did you read?
As I said, I don't remember it exactly. It was some post I read here.
>>8809280
Yep, seems like it is.

>>8809222
Always worth trying, but this doesn't work for some AGPs such as Bruce Jenner or Matt Kroc.

Having a passionate relationship with a woman reduces AGP but it may show up again later.

>>8809222
I would do that but I feel like it would show up again later

Got any advice for an AFAB with dysphoria?

>>8811711
Try asking /ftmg/, this board is mostly mtfs, so finding advice that applies to you might be difficult. Sorry.

>>8811008
This is correct.
The solution is to STOP FAPPING, START LIVING!

You need to find something you can dedicate your life to, and be happy with.

For me, I'm happy fighting for a cure for AGP/Trans/Dysphoric and bettering my life in every way I can.

>>8811711
>>8812293
Sadly, there isn't much support for FtM's here, nor a lot of spaces unfortunately.

But I can tell you this, whatever you do, don't trap yourself.

Do not do HRT. You need to find things that make your life worth living.

Don't trust anyone telling you to transition, and demand evidence that transition has long-term proven benefits. Then read the citations, and see the truth.

>>8813268
>and demand evidence that transition has long-term proven benefits
Why do I need it to what I want?

>>8811711
Check out TERF stuff to help you repress and maybe reduce your dysphoria.

4thwavenow.com
dirtywhiteboi67.blogspot.com
gendertrender.wordpress.com
reddit.com/r/GenderCritical

Don't buy into the muh patriarchy stuff too much though. For all their bluster, violent men on the right are the only thing keeping them safe from a queer "utopia".

So since your an FtM I'll say, keep your tits and don't bro yourself.

>>8815867
Kinda revealing that your only repression advice for AFABs is TERF shit.

>>8813268
>Sadly, there isn't much support for FtM's here, nor a lot of spaces unfortunately.
there is, go to tumblr.
>>8811711

>>8815878
I'm an AMAB AGP and TERF stuff helped me a lot with repression. It probably helped that I was already rightwing too. Being a leftist AGP and repressing would be much harder.

>>8815898
But TERFs are full of shit. Brainwashing yourself with TERF propaganda is the wrong way to repress.

>>8815898
Explain?

>>8815898
Indeed. Conservative Catholic agp. Without my faith and ideolog don't know how I would make.

>>8815918
My post should be self evident but...

TERFs are unconventionally conservative. They highlight the futility of transgenderism and the insanity and delusion of its adherents. Not to mention the damage it can cause both to the tranny and others.

Being a Trump supporter my side is anti-trans by default. A leftist AGP repressor on the otherhand has to fight the power alongside allies that demand unconditional worship of transgenderism and hatred of masculinity. It'd be tough to repress under those conditions.

>>8815911
TERFs do get their facts wrong sometimes but they instinctively feel right at times. I find Dirt and Gallusmag fun because they're no fucks given repressed HSTS transmen who are TErfs. Gendercritical is a female r9k however.

>>8816103
I'm a baptist to agnostic alt-lite conservative myself. Are you a complete repressor? Like do you crossdress, crossdream, or have sex with trannies?

>>8816297
>instinctively feel right at times.
No, they're just wrong.
I'm the polar opposite of repressed - I've lived more than half my life post-SRS. I can understand people repressing for practical reasons like being unpassable or having only mild dysphoria. I completely reject all ideological opposition to transition though. TERFs don't have a leg to stand on, and they're incapable of doing anything other than making my life harder.

>>8816297
Complete to the core. I'm Catholic and upper class. Period.

>>8816297

If you want to chat: [email protected]

>>8816328
Well now that you've went ahead and trapped yourself you can't turn back now. If trannyism is working for you then might as well keep going.

>>8816346
You'd have a lot to lose probably. I ended up relying on weed to help me repress. Being catholic you've probably relied on prayer?

>>8816381
Hmmm perhaps, your not gonna try to get me to trap myself are you?

>>8816551
No. i'm catholic one.

>>8816297
>but they instinctively feel right at times.
?

>>8816567
Cool I might just do that.

>>8816619
Hard to explain. Its just that gut feeling you get that trannies are being btfo.

>>8816638
Trust me I'm last to crack.