/gaygen/ Gay General - Unrequited Love Edition

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>tfw no bf

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me on the left

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About to buy my first dildo.
what should I expect?

>tfw you're enjoying a nice ""vacation"" and then something happens and you want to violently murder everyone around you
seemsok

>>8770569
you should get that checked out

>>8770535

Sami Zayn <3

>>8770560
a dildo i guess

>>8770529
iktf bro

i am so cute!!

>>8763274
>>8765689
>>8770090
thoughts on my story so far?

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>>8770466
>fuck discord

is that shit finally dead? please

>>8770627
no it's great
I have guys sending me nudes whenever I ask, just because they love my dick

>>8770624
sucks to suck
I leave immediately if they don't match how they presented themselves.

>>8770639
I don't know why, but I wanted to see it through
now I have a great story to tell and I got a free meal, and all I had to do was make out with a fat guy

>>8770643
this was my first date from an online hook-up :|

>>8770635
interesting. maybe if yaoi boi isn't a FAG i'll join

>>8770650
>all I had to do was make out with a fat guy
yuck

>>8770624
replied with my own story, catfishes suck

>>8770651
no I don't mean the /lgbt/ discord, not a part of that shit

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>>8770639

^
this

I am a real life elf god of beauty and that's exactly how i present myself because i am so cute

how do we solve the white female problem

what is the BEST part about being gay?

is it
>being cute
>kissing cute guys
>getting fucked
>getting to be submissive all the time
>getting to wear makeup
>getting to act like a girl
>getting to walk on ur tiptoes
>getting to slurp on fast food soft drinks while u look at ppl
>getting to wear bracelets
>getting to wear pink
>getting to wear pink everything
>getting a top bf who fucks your face

so which one is it

>>8770670
so only ultra-fem bottoms are gay?
damn I didn't know I was straight. time to tell my parents

>>8770674

wow what a bich i never said that that just is what happen to be i dont care what u are u fuckin dillweed lol praise kek

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>>8770529
yep

>>8770623
prove it

>>8770651
you leave yaoi boy alone

>>8770670
I do none of these things

>>8770674
why are you ''''masc'''' shitters always so sensitive
you can stop pretending now, you aren't fooling anyone

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>>8770670
you didn't even list the best part, its being the one fucking cute boys, not being the cute boy being fucked!

>>8770670
>getting to wear makeup
>getting to act like a girl
>getting to walk on ur tiptoes
>getting to slurp on fast food soft drinks while u look at ppl
>getting to wear bracelets
>getting to wear pink
>getting to wear pink everything
And here I thought AGP was a meme.

>>8770695
we joked about it too much and it became real

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>>8770657
oh, usually in the gaygen thread they are talking about the gaygen discord...sooooo

(its fucking awful desu)

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>tfw no lil peep bf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heJNHYCSsIc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rkJ3L5Ce80

>>8770670
obsessing over boys who would never even look in your direction

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>>8770535
me in the back

>>8770662
... Problem?

>>8770719
Yes

>>8770670
I only worked out enough self acceptance to let myself be a submissive bottom


I have no grace or charm so I'm masc by default

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Anyone remember the zayn vs owens match? If i was ever to have a dream threesome with two guys

>>8770803
>gayfaces
you could probably still get that 3some

>>8770703
>part of a gay discord
>part of a commie discord
>get noods from both

only really annoying when underage guys think I'm super nice and they're thirsty af and want to sent nudes
no fuck off pls

>>8770624
>>8768884 #
>>8770090 #
>>8770643 #
>meet a qt from Grindr
>We go out to eat
>He's shy the whole time
>Turns out he's a pediatric neurologist
>Come home and cuddle
>He has almost freakishly smooth soft skin
>9 months later were still together
>Talking about getting a puppy together, and what we'll do when we're married

>>8770635
That makes it sounds pretty tempting.

>>8770868
I'm only like 6.5 to 7 inches and one or two nice pics are all that too it

>>8770944
That's cool. It's good to know not every guy is a size queen.

I'm a bit bigger, but I'm also pretty tall, so it doesn't like that impressive. I'm a shower though, so it's pretty impressive soft, which is nice.

>>8770962
>I'm a shower though
I'm a grower. It curls up into like a 1 inch package when I'm completely unerect

>>8770971
clit to average here
although most guys don't get to see it because kissing makes me rock hard

>>8770662
Support and donate to artificial womb research to finally rid the world of the woman problem once and for all

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>>8770865
>tfw will never have smooth qt to marry and adopt a puppy with

>>8771038
hey i know this feel

#relatable #teen #post

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>>8770865
ok you need to fuck off with that, cunt

>bump into someone
>they help me pick up the mail from the ground
>guess fairytales do come true~
>say thanks
>he says no problem
>stacy comes out of nowhere and snuggles up to him as he walks away
w o w
bugged reality mechanics

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>>8771076
>roasties

>meet qt on okcupid
>he goes to 4chan
>he goes to gaygen!
>talk to him for long time
>excited to meet irl but too afraid
>say i must wait
>work up courage to meet him
>message him again long time after
>"sry I have a bf now"
>mfw

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>>8770670

none of the above actually, I dont go out much and I hate fast food.
I dont date anymore, Its all crap unless you are a complete person. Im far from being dateable, I have milestones to achieve before being able to enrich someones life not just by enabling them. I only hang out with straight dudes that know about me and dont give a shit. But generally I hang with my family. They are boring but they love me and I love them. The best part i guess is feeling kind of free. I can do anything I want really. Im not expected to marry, Im not expected to have children. I fucked up a lot of my university years being depressed, so much that I am considered a weird unstable unconventional person. Im ok with that, its more liberating than anything else.
I can focus on studying and dont have to work like a slave to make money in a corporate job. Quitting my day job soon and getting back to studying shit.
Life is meh, and thats good. All rage and sadness is disolving in a big pile of meh.

>>8771162
thats literally on you

>>8771162
>excited to meet irl but too afraid
its just another autist what's there to be afraid of

Anyone want to know how I almost got sucked off by a guy living in a senior center?

>>8771162
You legit meet a guy who goes on 4chan and you don't meet him.
>JUST

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>>8770836
I'm pretty sure gayfaces look like pic related.

>>8771267
Nah, that's just overall gay

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That's just confusing. What is a gayface? What does it look like? Does pic related has a gayface? Does it even exist?

>>8770706
>opens SoundCloud once

On a side note, how do you think all these meme rappers will age? Or will the xans and lean get them in their youth?

>>8771162

>See qt posting lewds on another chan, someone asks where he lives and he mentions he lives in my state
>Immediately reply to him, takes a little while to get back, but eventually we start talking
>Have a lot in common, talk a lot and meet up irl a month later over spring break
>Have an amazing time eating out then going back to a hotel to get lewd for hours
>Been together for a few months now, I'm back at school and he's planning to come stay with me this weekend

>>8771267
pic from behind?

>>8771289
It's in the name dude.

>>8771350
nah I just got it here

>>8771289
The gentleness of the features mostly. Notice how everything, especially his eyebrows slope downward and generally has rounder, softer features

>>8770686
>you leave yaoi boy alone

>2017
>defending radfem ftm pedophiles

ISHYGDDT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3NzhQF47pk

lol freaks in my country

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>>8770662
With ovens.
Lots of ovens.

>>8770971
>>8771009
That must be rough.
I don't know how I feel about being a shower.
It sort of hangs out at 5-6, but I feel like i'm going to disappoint when it doesn't grow to monster sized.

>bf for 3 weeks
>fucked him raw this afternoon [spoiler]because he likes atm[/spoiler]
I'm so weak & dumb, I'm starting to panicking a bit tbqh

>>8770560
DON'T BUY CHEAP RUBBER DILDOS THEY FUCKING STINK AND THE SMELL NEVER GOES AWAY WHICH MAKES IT HARD TO PRACTICE BLOWJOBS

WHY AM I YELLING?

I WASTED MY ONE OPPORTUNITY IN A DECADE TO GET A DILDO ON A CHEAP RUBBER ONE AND IT FUCKING SUCKS AND MY MIND NOW ASSOCIATES DICKS WITH ITS FUCKING RUBBER SMELL FUCK

>>8771828
It's not that bad, I don't spend my time naked.
But I just can't fake being intimate with someone because they will absolutely know.
I don't think a lot of people expect showers to grow into leg sized dongs, just that they'll get hard.
Must be a little rough for those who are actually so big they can't get hard.

>>8771840

>tfw fuck bf raw and then stick my dick in his mouth

It's nice having a kinky bf.

>>8771925
yeeeah, but "next time" if it ever happens, I'll ask him to clean first...

>>8771933

Oh he wasn't clean? That's a little gross then, my bf is always cleaned out whenever we do rimming or ass to mouth or something like that.

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>>8771939
I agree, it was a bit gross (he wasn't literally full of shit ofc, just not 100% clean)
that's why I haven't rimmed him yet: so far I only did it with previous bf after shower + douche. I'm not totally degenerate… yet.

.... but I might reconsider dating him desu: he didn't wash his hands before diner hours later...

(pic somehow related)

>>8771848
silicone sex toys are also much safer in general, stick to that

>>8770560
Gonna need you to send me some vids to advise you properly.

>usually prefer missionary position for procreation purpose and because I can kiss my bf & lay on him
>but new bf is kinda ugly, so for the moment, "get your knees, butt up & spread your cheeks bitch"

>>8771708
...wait, is yaoi anon FtM?! he's now 10 more qter than I imagine

>>8772467
Iktf. I could pay much only cum with the ex during doggy.
He was a super nice guy feel bad about it still.

>>8772530

I seem to be able to have the most luck cumming during prone bone, though even that's not always a guarantee. I've also gotten my bf to cum hands free during prone as well.

All you cunts who are getting some can go fuck yourselves. Just saying.

>>8772467
>>but new bf is kinda ugly
LMAO
i cant

>>8772573
Just be yourself bro

>>8772584
That's what got me into the mess in the first place.

>>8772581
it never happened to you???

>>8772605
why would i get into a relationship with someone I find physically unattractive

>>8772629
What if you were in an accident directly before you met them and had to wear eyepatches but you got along really well with them? You ever think of that?

Pretty sure that's what happened to the guy.

>>8772639
He legit has to wear an eyepatch? That's kinda hot.

>>8772639
>>8772629
damn, you're really shallow!
he might not be handsome face-wise, but he has a nice body, nice cock & plump butt, he's actually nice & always wiling to have sex, and he has a car… sooooooo he's not totally devoid of attractiveness :)

>>8772639
wat

>>8772680
>damn, you're really shallow!
>but he has a nice body, nice cock & plump butt, he's actually nice & always wiling to have sex, and he has a car
>>8772467
>but new bf is kinda ugly
uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>8770803
>match
They've been fighting for the past 8 years

Why are exclusive bottoms so lazy and uninvolved during sex? Not to mention how so many are unrepentant size queens.

>>8772714
>wat
Lemme break it down.

See, if you were in an eye-related accident and had to wear eyepatches you wouldn't be able to see, right? So you wouldn't know whether a guy was hot or not, you'd have to judge them on their personality. And then when you healed and took off the eyepatches you might not have so much fun when banging as you were when you were blind.

Hope that clears things up.

>>8772670
Your fetish is dumb.

>>8772739
Sounds like the complaint of someone with a small dick to be honest.

Ok question hopefully this goes better than the lebsbians(I was filtered and deleted and all men are trash apparently) why are you so nice like I mean you people are very kind in my experience

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>>8772639
>eyepatches
Tfw no qt pirate bf

>>8772754
Dumb cunt.

>>8772740
Only a virgin could come up with something so stupid. Congratulations.

>>8772748
This. Even if they're just laying there the moans are hot.

>>8772754
>you people
triggered

>>8772759
Hah you can't insult me the same way because I'm a man so(insert clever pun here) are you idk ok sorry if I offended you I don't want a yesterday

>>8772764
Thanks. It's been pretty hard protecting my virginity specifically so I could post dumb crap online. I'm glad my work is finally being appreciated.

>>8772772
There's no need to insult someone already at their lowest point in life. Hope you get better, call up a plastic surgeon or something babe.

>>8772766
>one didn't moan at all, he was... just... there
>the other one faked moaning for the whole time; it was so distracting I almost laughed at his face & stopped fucking him
feelsbad

>>8772785
Act like an adult and actually fucking communicate with your partners, if the moaning is obviously fake you can tell him it doesn't turn you on, and the guy who lay there like a dead fish might have been freaking out, you could have asked him if he was okay.

No more unrequited love.
Tomorrow, I come out. First to my parents, then to everyone else I was previously closeted to (which is only about 40% of them, family included, thanks to uni making me popular).
After this, I will see how he responds and if he returns my affections.

>>8772870
you're right, I tend to not communicate a lot indeed
thank you for the wake up call etc.

>>8773002
We all need a reminder sometimes. Unless you get very lucky with coincidentally matching tastes, communication is the key to good sex.

Help

The thought of Kissing men gives me a boner

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I wish the gay guy at work liked me back. He's so handsome - but for that very reason, I'm so beneath his notice.

I've asked him to hang out three times. Two times, he bailed; the other time, he made it my fault by telling me he'd call me at a certain time; he then proceeded to call me 2 hours later after the supposed time, by which hour I had already fallen asleep (therefore making it my fault, since he technically did call me).

I even told him I liked him. I said to him: "... You're not dumb. I'm sure you've guessed why I keep making an effort to ask you to hang out. Hell, I get terrified everytime you pass by."

He smiled, said "Don't worry, we're on the same page," and continued with "And don't be scared," before tapping my leg.

I'm sure he has no real interest in me, and that he's simply being polite. After all, it's always me making the effort to talk to him - not once has he ever come forward on his own to ask to hang out or anything. And I am so pathetic and clingy that I asked him to have lunch with me tomorrow. He said yes, but he'll probably come up with an excuse to get out of it.

But you know? Fuck it - until he makes his disinterest explicit - in the same way I made mine clear - by telling me 'no', I'm going to keep trying. Who cares if he thinks I'm pathetic? Let him!

>>8773309

What about sucking dick or having your ass used like a fleshlight?

>>8773325
Yes that too, I want it
It makes it harder

I've never had anal sex but I've had gay sex dreams and always been very happy in them

I really tried to fight this as a teen, I spent 2 hours trying to get off to lesbian porn , but one look at cock and instant boner

Im in a bad mood. You fuckers better have some better stories than usual

>>8773383
I just masturbated three times in a row. That's a pretty good story.

>>8773324

Similar situation. Heteroflexible knows Im crushing. Keeps trying to manipulate me. So now I have to choose between straight dick and going full Cersei Lannister on him as I am want to do with boys who play at being men.

But then I am reminded of an old truism: Never attribute malice to what can be as easily explained by stupidity.

>>8773416

Probably the best. I havent dumped the boi,er in about three weeks. It has its ups and downs. Im more focused and motivated. Unfortunately, I am also feeling that quasi-sociopathic tension straight guys suffer as a result of sexual discipline. You begin to think it makes sense to contemplate a fist fight over a messed up sandwich order.

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>turn FORTY FOUR in a month
>wtf still on 4chan?
>notice I am getting into older men
>wtf is happening to me?!

Gay death was bad enough. Now I have to be a zombie chaser also?

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>>8773440

>>8773454
>notice I am getting into older men
>wtf is happening to me?!
You're becoming a patrician

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>>8773477
This guy is trolling, right?

>>8773477
>INTP
That explains the autism

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>>8772977

Please, dont come out for a man.

Ive been in and out. In is much better. If you have to announce it and make it a lifestyle, leave yourself a path back. Its only fun for a while. But for all that is sacred and holy, dont do it just for a man. People will fail you constantly. Dont let group think seduce you with visions of shangra-la. The world over, all through history, the 'closet' is power. Keep your edge.

Besides, you learn to navigate intrigue, and the men are better. When men who prefer women think you have something to lose also by being outted, they see it as shared risk and respond better.

You wont get as much romance, but no one gets to keep it either.

>>8773309

Oddly, of all the weird fetishes I learned (well, to me they are, but Im a prude) I could never get into kissing.

>>8773489
The problem with giving them the benefit of the doubt there is that there are way too many completely oblivious people out there.

>>8773490
Because believing in that personality categorization bullshit is the same as believing in astrology? Yep. Pretty much.

>>8772766

I do the breathless yelping/squeaking thing when Im getting fucked, cant control it.

The upside is that its created the context enough times where the man fucking me realizes he has to cover my mouth, which is hot.

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>>8773506

>>8773520
Cmon, man. What if he actually does have autism. What're you gonna do then, laugh at him?

>>8772739

I feel bad for anyone that has to deal with such a bottom, and Im an exclusive bottom. Such bottoms are 'bad for business'.

I look at faggotry as a sort of guild. I please men. Thats my high. If I am the sort of warped faggot that is so upside down that I think faggotry is about putting myself above the man, then I am failing at the easiest thing in the world a faggot should be able to do, please men.

>>8773533
Wouldn't bottoms who are bad at sex be good for business from your perspective, since you would have a competitive advantage? Or are you afraid they're going to turn guys straight by being terrible?

>>8773549

Well, in my world, I pretty much only deal with men who normally prefer females. So its painful to think they would take the plunge only to end up getting a bitchy bottom and ruin what will probably end up being their first and last time with a bad experience. Any time anything is new, we tend to model interest based on the first experience. If it goes badly, then we tend to assume it will be repeated. It has to be better than just sex. Theres a psycholoical aspect too, and clumsy bottoms with poor attitudes just screw up our reputation among those who typically would've provided the better sex and deeper connection.

>>8773527
Sounds like a good idea!

>>8773574
So you're in the converting bisexuals business huh.

>>8773454
It's better to be an old man who likes men your own age than one pathetically chasing after youth

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I just tapped my first guy on Grindr

Was that too forward of me, or is it like Tinder where that's just saying I think they're hot? I'm scared I don't wanna make him mad or seem like a perv.

>>8773887
I honestly think tapping is trolling.

>don't find dark skin attractive
>turn down a black guy
>he calls me racist

>>8773477
>>8773489
I don't know man, if it wasn't for the narutard background compounded with the age gap, I'd give it a go just to exchange philosophy.

At least he's putting his ideas out there and trying to make a statement about the human condition, and that's still a million times better than "down 2 fuk 2nite

>>8773887
I think it's an attempt to reduce toxicity.

If there's an easy and noncommittal way to signal good feelings about someone, then there will be a lot more of those, as something to cancel out the depressing amount of horribleness that is the grindr experience.

>>8770635
Cringe
Like anyone over the age of consent into nudes is a loser
Go out and get laid and touch actual naked people
Like how desperate do you have to be to whore pics of your dick on the internet just to see pics of naked people
Criiiiinge

It's psychology. Sending nudes helps people feels wanted and relevant in an otherwise empty and meaningless world, and getting nudes sent to you is an extension of living vicariously through the internet and social media, but without any of the baggage or risk that normal relationships and human interaction entail.

>be a Virgin most of my life
>come out and meet a bf some time after
>be together for almost five years
>be extremely loyal to him all that time
>he honors my needs for pure monogamy
>relationship over time starts to weaken
>he breaks up with me and calls it quits during the start of summer
>been slutting it up ever since

How do I stop this? I would have never thought that I would be doing this crap seeing as I was such a opponent to that lifestyle a few years ago.

I feel like if I don't stop soon and stay celibate for 6 months I'm going to get hiv. My ex has even been talking about how he misses me and wants us back together. I know he hasn't even been with anyone in that time we been apart.

>>8774312
The sex is better isn't it? That's why you're splitting it up.
You've realised how shitty it is having sex with one person.

>>8774315

Oh no it wasn't about the sex at all. We broke up for different reasons. The sex was wonderful actually, I would call it love making most of the time but sometimes we would have degenerate lust sex.

>>8774346
>degenerate
You're from the 1950s aren't you?

>>8773520
Wow what a turd you are
He deserves better

>>8774369
You're from Reddit, aren't you?

>>8770670
ban trannies from this thread

>>8773493
The fuck are you saying? People just think I'm straight and I can't tell who the closetgays are, plus my dad wants me to "get the pussy" all the time.
Your comment makes no sense.

>>8773791

1. I didnt say my own age. I said older.
2. Tbqh, pathetic is believing that you stop being attracted to guys under 30 at some point because somehow they are special and are entitled to believe they will be pretty forever. For some reason, twenty something airheads all seem to think their dick becomes a monument to morality as they age, and that they will proudly step aside from sex with grace once they pass 34, or transition into some 'niche' as if fetishizing age is a virtue.

In reality, the same people end up being a bunch of creepy thirty somethings who dress like they are in high school, discover that the body really will tattle on people never exercise and party 24/7, and begin adopting odd facial hair, jewelry and piercings to distract from the receding hairline and dulling hair and skin.

>>8774315

Amen

>>8774312

He's probably lying, because people lie. Some cant help it. Worse, some dont even know the difference. That doesnt make him a bad person at all. He is just trying to make a sale. But he isnt telling you everything. I just hope he isnt the type that pulls the 'come back' shit because no one makes them feel wanted. Such types dont really care about getting back together, they just want to feel in control and make sure you want them even if they have no intentions. Some people do this as a way of keeping someone on endless standby

Theres nothing wrong with being a slut to a point. Its relative. For some, 2 guys a month is being a whore. Other people think 2 guys a week is normal.

In reality, Im sort of a prude. But in practice, I love to slut just for the game. I love the pursuit. I flirt subtlely constantly. I love getting caught looking. I love 'using the voice'. In my case, I simply dont have time to dick around with all the social crap of actually pursuing every guy I think is hot, but I love letting them know, giving them something to think about.

If I actually cruise with the intention of getting some, I cruise "the wild", not cruising areas, again, because I love the game, the randomness instead of shooting ducks in barrel. I want the one that wasnt expecting a gay blow job to fall out of the sky that day.

This gives you all the thrill of the chase, keeps your skills sharp and exposes you to a lot of fun opportunities without also racking up your dick count to that of a junkie. I dont judge them either, but STD does happen. Dont be terrified of it though, because STD can happen to prudes or sluts.

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>>8770670

I was about to say having desperate frustrated men who have reached their breaking point with women stuff my holes and hate-fuck me till my teeth rattle or battering my tonsils with their cock until I am tearing uncontrollably. But then I read-

>getting to slurp on fast food soft drinks while u look at ppl

I have to admit: that is pretty fun.

Someone once said 'never make eye contact while eating a banana'. Fuck that.

>>8773511
>yelping
>cover mouth
This :3

>>8774479
Are Reddit people not autistic enough to use the term degenerate in 2017?

>>8774507

So you are bad at being gay, struggle with interpersonal skills, namely empathy (oh yes you do) and think bluntly announcing that you want dick will put you in the company of easier opportunities.

Think about what you are doing, the consequences and *why*. I dont have a problem with you being out because frankly its social death over something that matters a lot more to you than anyone else (some people come out just to complain about life constantly).

But you yourself began by saying 'no more unrequited love', then moved immediately to your parents. You are literally about to permanently change the relationship you already have with two people who have been with you all along for the possible chance some guy will give you the D.

Think of it as the difference between investing and gambling. Right now, you are just gambling, which means you must be in a stressed place. Get laid a few times with some throwaways and then re-think it to see if its what you want.

Too many guys twisting up their life because they stay as foolhardy as teenagers thinking romance is the solution to wanting intimacy with a man. If you are lucky, a person will find intimacy with friends by actually getting out there and meeting people doing what they want to do. And if you dont, being a man means thats okay. You will eventually, and it never lasts anyway.

*Girls* are the ones whose life model is based on finding intimacy through romance. Because, to put it bluntly, being a woman kind of sucks and the commitment means more. (Dont pity them; skilled ones get a lot of dick and free goodies).

>>8774734
>projecting
Coming out may be social death in your backwater hick country, but it isn't in mine.

You can't find a boyfriend as a male if nobody knows you want one. It's a simple fact. I don't see how that shows bad interpersonal skills or a lack of empathy, but if I want to find someone without resorting to an irritating, in your face, flamboyant fag, I'll have to make my interests more clear.
And yes, it may permanently change the way my parents see me, but the only way I could go on living by their current expectations would be to marry a woman and have sex with men in secret. That's no way to live.
I know a boyfeiend is what I want, and I don't need secret casual sex for a few years to determine that. Romance and love can and does exist between males. Just because your life is a repressed failure just to keep up a now obsolete social appearance while you indulge purely carnal and non-romantic desires, that doesn't mean anyone else's should be.

I'm taking a shower and then I'm letting them know, before I end up like this repressed, bleak anon.

>>8774734
kek
is this the gay version of MGTOW??

reposting question cause last was in dead thread

if im fully erect when im having anal sex with my partner it hurts him but i actually feel it and i can get off but he has to stop and its a bummer for me

if im slightly soft however he feels great he's riding super hard and getting into it and etc but i feel virtually nothing.

This really sucks. Ive not climaxed through penetration ever and i want to figure this out because sex just feels mediocre or im hurting him and no matter my urges i wont just push his head into the pillow and get my nut

any advices? we use lube i tried using absolute huge gobs of it already :/

we vary positions still not found what works for both of us.

>tfw he is already engaged (to an ugly mulleted twink who looks like a 4chan tier MtF)

>>8770670
>>getting to slurp on fast food soft drinks while u look at ppl
this

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>>8771289
it's when guys look like they use moisturised, foundation, and get their eyebrows threaded

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>>8775003
That's tranny-territory.

A tranitory.

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>>8775003
what about autistic gays who dont into hygiene

>>8775036
I put lotion on myself every night, but foundation and eyebrow threading makes you look like a girl.

>>8774659

No one asked you honey

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>>8774789
>Just because your life is a repressed failure

See, I was trying to be helpful. So I think its curious that you jumped to 'projecting' and ranting about 'repressed failure' when I am not the one online bitching about 'no bf'.

I cant be angry, because I know whats ahead for you and that is spite enough. The difference between us, aside from this idiot 20th century idea that men make couples, is that I didn't need to long for a man to find the balls to be myself openly.

Even IF your advertisement for seeking dick wins you this man, he will eventually dump you for being needy, as you are, and then it will happen again and again until you are less of who you could've been, and have to replace idealist fantasies with wisdom.

You are reacting to unhappiness with desperate acts of extreme pleas for validation. You are on defense, and you will stay there. You think coming out is confidence not desperation. You dont have what it takes to approach life on offense. You didnt have the balls to come out until now. You wont magically grow them tomorrow. You will be running in fear from your self doubt for the rest of your declining life, with nothing but the tall dark shadows of long, social exile waiting for you at the very end.

>>8774867

MGTOW *is* gay. Its the faggiest thing a guy can choose. Its weaker than being a faggot because at least faggots dont construct convoluted rationalizations about being a childless loser. The whole fundamental premise of MGTOW is that the pussies need an excuse. Any faggot is worth 10 MGTOWs because at least a faggot doesnt feel he has to justify his choices and blame the literal weaker sex and his inability to navigate them for his pitiful self image.

pic related

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>>8771289
submissive large smile, arches thin eyebrows, cute eyes OR soulless eyes (emptied by hundred of sleazy hookups)

>>8775207
>at least faggots dont construct convoluted rationalizations about being a childless loser
...

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>>8771289

Gayface is something of a myth. Its not actually the face. Its the impression or appearance one gives from the face but its not an innate feature.

The biggest two contributors are poorly chosen hairstyles that frame the face combined with resting expressions that can, at best, be described as juvenile, a sort of dopey vapid gaze. When you add to that effeminate expressions in between while speaking, it appears the whole face is giving off some lame vibe of its own.

Two cures are hairstyles that actually suggest modesty and an some conformity to male humility of looks, and as many 15 milliamp shocks as it takes to condition the unit to depart whatever dreamworld they reside in and pay attention to the effect they have on others.

What we associate with being feminine is actually the affects of preadolescence, where the human has not learned to moderate emotional impulses in their behavior and expression. In males over 13, it just looks gay. Children have vocal outbursts, flailing arms and gesticulation, and widely pitched voices. So do excited girls, and flamers, which is why neither actually control it. Its the absence of control. Age, the accumulation of experience and learning to behave like a person and not an excited chimpanzee usually fixes this. Its what we call emotional maturity. It takes longer in some strains, namely females and passive homos who also adapt to navigate dominant males in a similar way, leveraging submission.

You also see it in blacks, because blacks typically lack the social controls in the West to instill maturity sooner, and in Africa, maturity is not an asset, but rather the weakness of patience among the impatient.

If you can imagine they stereotypical obnoxious negros behavior with a white body and English accent, you can see that they sort of flame by themselves.

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>>8775178

You're welcome. Meaning most of you head cases will end up paying to hear shittier advice from the therapists so many of you are doomed to baw for at some point. Probably after some half assed suicide attempt.

Mine was free. Technically, anyone who reads my posts is ripping me off. If I weren't as financially comfortable and forgiving, a lesser poster might be outraged and sue.

These are facts. If they offend you, your issue is with reality, not me. Direct your umbrage inwards that you may have incentive to correct and grow. Then you will be grateful instead of offended. And thats a better place to be. Which is also a fact, unless youre the type of fag that enjoys being offended. And those of you who do are the last to admit.

That too is a fact. Any offense one feels is proof, as the truth offends those who dwell in self delusion.

Again, you are welcome. Am I not magnanimous? And if one thinks I am not, they dont know what it is, for you could not find a better example. If you dont recognize it here, it will recognize it nowhere.

So where do you stand in the pendulum of having confidence in yourself and having realistic expectations about relationships? I could do better than a Wisconsin 2, but I'm not gonna be dating any 9's any time soon

>>8770466

Is it strange that my bf wants me to shave? Honestly I don't really mind doing it, but it just seems a little strange to me. For reference, I guess I would be considered 'masculine' but I try not to get hung up on shit like that so it doesn't bother me from that perspective. It just seems a little unusual to me. Anytime he brings it up, he just says it's 'just a preference'. Personally I think he just gets off on the sub/Dom dynamic but maybe I'm wrong. It's difficult to tell. Am I reading to much into this? Or are a lot of other gay/bi dudes into this?

>>8775418
I think you're reading to much into it. Some people like hair, some don't.

>>8775418
your beard itches him when you kiss
thats why my boyfriend tells me to shave
but sometimes i arrive without shaving and assault his tender skin with it because i know he hates it so much and it makes me giggle.

Just came out to my parents
>How do you know you're gay if you've never been with either? I used to bond with guys when I was your age but then I met your mum. You just like guys as close friends.
>You don't act gay so you can't be.
>Do more sports to fix your hormonal balance.
>The society we live in doesn't accept this kind of thing, and you'd better tell all your friends you were lying before they make fun of you (I live in England - that really homophobic country).
>I reckon you're just asexual or shy about talking to girls. You'll meet one soon.
>You won't get hired as a gay (I'm doing medicine).
How do I deal with severe retardation?

>>8775568

Have no beard man. I prob should clarify: he wants me to shave my legs, chest, etc.

>tfw you hitting it off with some hoe on okcupid/grindr etc

>tfw you come on too strong and seem like you like him too much

The first rule of bitches is to never seem like you like them too much.

>>8775584
oh course, fuck body hair my bf and i both hate it im naturally (mostly) hairless and so is he but if something does appear we get rid of it promptly.

preference thing there

>>8775577
>How do you know you're gay if you've never been with either?
This type of argument is so weird to me because it implies that the people asking it are/were open to being gay at one point. I've only ever felt attracted to men, is it normal for "straight" people to go through a period where homosexuality is a potential choice they could make?

Swede
5652
Babaghanoush
Freddie

Come back
Gaygen sucks now
It's full of rugbys

>>8775584
Some men just like the smooth look of a hairless body.

It's not that uncommon especially among straight men who find hair repuslive for the most part and don't get accused of being pedo.

Maybe your bf is just straight. sorry girlfrand

>>8775619
My dad did, then he said that all attractions are a choice, because his were.

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>>8775577

And now the downward spiral into the dark, dark hole that you will be sinking into for the rest of your fading, pale and dessicated existence.

The faces around you fade away. The voices dissolve into silence. The light of dreams turns grey, and every step you take is trying turn away from the shadows racing towards you from the future, reaching out, clawing at you like an icy mist from below, shredding who you thought you were from your bones. You turn away, but the past is gone, and you turn, turn until you realize you're going in circles down, down as they wind tighter and deeper into the abyss, where the same shadow awaits you still.

The friends fade away. The phone calls with mum and dad grow fewer and fewer. The waking day is a blur of surreal encounters that grow warped into nightmarish episodes of vicious, savage betrayals by what you trusted most. You want to disappear so badly that you eventually succeed, and become just another drifting wraith, a vague shape in a fog of nameless faces. until there is nothing but a rolling haze among the living, and you realize you were gone long, long before you knew it.

Congratulations on 'coming out'.

>>8775630
Nothing hotter than a tall buff tanned boy with shoulder length blond wavy hair and not a scrap of hair on his body below his chin

Drool

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>>8775702

Dont forget Gay Death. He has Gay Death to look forward too.

I judge him to be early/mid-20's, so it wont be long.

>>8775655
your dad is a closeted bi
sorry :S

>>8775704
mmm I agree actually anon we have similar tastes. Although I'm more than happy with several variations on this theme.

>>8775702
>downward spiral

HURT MYSELF TODAY

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>>8775819

;)

>>8770466

Do you consider yourself submissive or dominant or neither? And why?

>>8775854
Neither
I don't watch anime

>>8775854

Switch normally but it depends on the guy.

>>8775854
Why not both? :3

>have first enema since like a year ago
>spent the last two hours going back and forth between my bed and the toilet

Fucking hell. I've followed the thirty minute rule 4 times now. Don't even want to think about what would've happened if I didn't.

Sup /gg/, I'm a sub top

How do I stop people laughing at me ans saying it's not a real sexual preference?

>>8773511
I honestly prefer to just gently squeeze their throat until the undead noises stop.

>>8772785
If the moans are fake, you aren't fucking them hard enough.

>>8775702
>>8775715
Emos telling themselves that everyone will be as lonely as they are right now.

Back to buying that helium tank over Amazon, kiddos.

>>8775715
Gay death only impacts feminine men an twinks who made significant efforts to stay young. If you let yourself age you'll be fine. I'm 27 and my partner is 44

>>8776375
>>8776375
He's only dating you to relive his youthful years

>>8776413
Young bodies aren't as warm or fuzzy as those that realistically could be your dad's

>>8776109
I feel as though I'd be a submissive top so you're not alone anon

>>8776373
>helium tank

they don't sell the big enough one anymore.
you end up living with brain damage.

>>8776432
So, status quo ante bellum for you?

>>8776432
>they don't sell the big enough one
Then buy two.

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>Fucking off work to go visit the BF for a week and a half
>Nothing planned but Mall of America, vidya, movies, and lots of cuddlin'
>First time we have the chance to be alone

Life can be pretty good sometimes.

>>8776431
It's just the nicest feeling to rim your bottom, lick his feet and pits and then have him ride you while your hands are tied

You've made me feel less ashamed x

>>8776435
Oh you~

>>8776538
I'm the time you posted this 18 children in this world have died from hunger

>>8776623
"this world" as in the first world or can I stop caring?

>>8775854
quite submissive but I prefer more sub guys (then I assume a more dominant role I guess)
so... switch? I prefer equality desu

>>8776660
You are a citizen of this earth. The blame is yours to share

>>8776424
FYI the warm coming from old bodies is just putrefaction slowly oozing.

>>8776109
Stop bringing it up to the girl at the starbucks counter.
Otherwise what the problem is, find your dom bot and have at it slut

>>8776695
I don't mean OLD old. Something like late 30s to miss 40s

>>8776623
is there any way i can speed up the process without getting my hands dirty

>>8776721
>late 30s
>I don't mean OLD old
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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All my boyfriend wants to do is have sex...We used to go to the movies, try new restaurants, play videogames, football, gym, hunting, etc gay shit like that

But now he doesn't want to leave the house... I've told him a few times that I'm honestly just bored of doing absolutely nothing but having sex and eating, and he's just like "oh well"

I don't know what to do...

>>8776800
How long have you been together?

>>8776724
I'm sorry that you have a perverted notion on what it means to be a person

>>8776800
All that sounds expensive. Gotta have money to have fun.

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>>8776810
2 years

>>8776818
Money isn't a problem, he's just lazy and horny 24/7. I mean yeah I like to have sex but I think he's addicted.

>>8776814
>I'm sorry that you have a perverted notion on what it means to be a person
says the retard who thinks an old man isn't old purely because he reminds him of his dad

>>8776800
Then leave. He clearly doesn't take you seriously if you've brought up the issue and he's like "oh well". Or stay with him and be bored in hopes some day he snaps out of it.
Up to you babe.

>>8776800
get tickets to a concert and ask him to go if he doesn't go by yourself and have fun

>>8776800
Have kinkier sex

I don't really grasp the appeal of sucking a cock desu: so yeah, I blow my bf sometimes, he seems to enjoy it but having this fat cock in my mouth and playing with it for more than 30seconds? booooooring (I like masturbate him & him coming on me tho)

>>8776836
gib him boipussi only if he go out with you

>>8776877
then dont do it
like lmaooooooooooo pretty simple

>>8776877

Ever tried lying on your back over the edge of the bed and having him fuck your face? Super hot.

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>>8776892
It's not unpleasant, and he likes to be sucked: I see no reasons to not do it once in a while.

>>8776918
meh, I don't really see myself in this position: I prefer to facefuck him.
I tried to suck him while he was sucking me, but I had to stop because he was so fuckin' good and I wasn't able to concentrate... that's def more his thing.

>>8776877
Well for some reason whenever a phallic object is lodged in my throat I get a very hard boner.

>>8776962
that's pretty gay bro

>>8776413

idk... Im in a quasi fwb situation in the same age disparity. Its great because we both know what we want and how it goes. The down side is that Ive come to embrace being shallow so theres nothing someone half my age can say that is new, interests me or isnt predictable. He wants more 'friends' with the benefits; idw make it complicated. I keep trying to encourage him to get a gf or at least play the field, since he prefers chicks, he just not good at it, usual confidence issues and a completely millennial view of females.

I happy to be a cumdump. But Im not interested in contributing to the mental collapse of a young man who keeps expecting to find the human race a lot kinder and easier. If he starts thinking some middle aged man is the answer, it will be nothing but more hurt when he realizes it wont last with me or others. He seems to like milfs a lot. Im not sure what to think about that. On one hand, that isnt going to last either. Except I know the quality of young females being produced at his age, and I sort of see his point.

>>8776836
I wish I were bara, then I could have a small qt to cuddle

>>8775702
My parents still like me and my friend count and quality level didn't change when I told them...
>projecting

>>8775715
I'm 19, and also beefy and hairy, so I only see appearance improving with age.

>>8777095
Barabod and bearbod are great, since both the majority of baras/bears and all twinks find you attractive.

>>8777095
>not remaining a twink top finding a thicc qt bot

>>8777216

>My parents still like me
>like
>my friend count and quality level didn't change when I told them

I'm sorry to hear that.

>>8777260
>like
Don't rub it in...

>dad doesn't even understand that liking masc guys doesn't mean I'm a femmy bottom because he thinks one person takes on a woman's role.

>>8777312

One does. If they both do, they are just versatiles, which is French for 'bottoms compromising standards"

Since homos are all through history and there is always a purge, I often wonder if this is why. When gays have clear roles the society can institute and distinguish themselves, things seem to quietly go by.

And then you have the inevitable periods leading up to times like the modern age, where its men of any age uttlerly disregarding any purpose and just swapping dick because why the fuck not?


Then after this peak of egos, theres a holy roller purge of some sort. I just never understood this approach to homosex of basically 'I want fuck all my friends, then make more friend to fuck them too." Anyone who walks into a gay club and thinks those men are normal and should represent homosex in society is on something. All sex requires pursuit to be decent. If its just people passing around holes, then its hard to even see it as sex; theres no chase. What could be attractive about men all acting like drugged women. I cant even see it as homosexual. More like just broken men malfunctioning. Homosex implies sex, sex is the result of pursuit. No pursuit, its not sex. They may as well try fucking trees for all it amounts to. There isnt even a human connection.

>>8777312
Your dad is right though.
A masc4masc vers life is utterly unfulfilling.

>>8777479

I think twink for twink would be too.

I never really understand why I never see more jocks/hunks with twinks/femmes. It just seems like a natural match. Yet people here seem offended that I even suggest it, which is even odder to me.

Im sure they have their reasons. I might can understand jock for jock etc, but being gay and then being into effeminate males doesnt add up to me. Any time I see twink on twink porn it just looks like lesbians to me.

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>>8777479
>>8777312

2 femmy bottoms don't make a top

>>8777501
Like the whole dad/son thing is popular not because of incest (doubt the market is really that huge), but because it plays into these natural roles - masc and fem, top and bot. The 'son' doesn't have to be some short twink, and the dad doesn't have to be some giant meathead, but there's still a very clear and potent dynamic going on.
It's a shame so many gays 'detest' these sort of roles imo. Trying so desperately to be "equal" in every way. I don't get two twinks going at it, nor two jocks going at it. Exceptionally lame stuff imo, even worse when they look like actual clones of each other.

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>>8777530
words of wisdom

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>>8777540

> Trying so desperately to be "equal" in every way.

god ikr? Egalitarianism is so fucking boring. There is, imo, some basic denial of nature and flaw in the idea that roles are bad.

Roles make strong societies. When someone agrees to follow, it legitimizes authority. It ends contests for power, makes peace, and the resources of time and attention can be spent elsewhere, growing and building. Roles are what make society efficient, people knowing what to do without constant instruction.

When you take roles away, you lose all that until people are literally fucking litigating which toilet to piss in.

>>8777548

Agreed.

>tfw no (sydney, australia) bf

You people are literally dumb and don't go outside do you.
It's 2017.
Even heterosexual relationships are pretty much equal with men and women sharing domestic duties.
Jesus fucking Christ, you're all legitimately stuck in the 50s.

my fuck.
Just like straight couples, gay couples tend to share the same values and cultural qualities, hence why they tend to look alike e.g. Jock with jock etc.
You rarely see a straight couple where some hot gym bunny has a fat slob on their arm unless there's money involved.

Also, since when is this dad/son thing a thing?

>>8779029
>Even heterosexual relationships are pretty much equal with men and women sharing domestic duties.

And look how well the hetero world is doing these days.

Who thinks the 50's were a bad time?

And I was just on fit the other day asking the guys why so many hot guys settle for fat chicks.

As for the dad/son thing, I never understood it either. There is some historical precedent culturally, the whole mentor thing.

Honestly, and people have been saying this quietly for years but the media culture trying to equate homosex with heterosex couples rejects it (which is entirely new), the idea of men being in a couple relationship like heteros is fundamentally insane because men just aren't that stupid to commit to monogamy if they dont have to. There is a reason heteros have a fuckton of laws to keep breeding couples intact.

Its not that I dont think men cant love men. I hate when people take that impression from what I am saying.. I am just saying guys shouldn't expect long term relationships AS IF they are the same as straights.

You love a guy. Great. But there will never be anything more than feelings, transient as they are, to hold you together. Look around. Now that we have marriage, how many men do you see rushing to tie the knot *with legal consequences*. Young men want to play, and older men are too experienced with men to fall for it. Thats why it was always regarded as the biggest judicial, legislative act of trolling in history. Everyone was fighting and feeling offended over something they didnt even want, or did and eventually dismiss. We were given an agenda by lesbians seeking security and we ended up drinking our own koolade and buying into our own post-60's bullshit....

>>8779367

Consider straights. The whole point of legal consequences is to keep society from filling up with orphans and 'spoiled' women. Married couples have to work- work hard- to wanna stay in the same home after the glow of new romance fades and theres kids hanging around. It doesnt come naturally to men, especially now that women are encouraged to compete in male roles.

I'll convince no one here though. Equality is social poison. It teaches that the individual has a *right* to do whatever they want, but should expect no social consequences from a natural order as old as humanity, literally fighting nature and having a grudge about biological assignments. Modern feminism is essentially claiming the maleness of females, which is a paradox sure to anger anyone who subscribes to it. Likewise, gay rights are much the same, preaching that men who take female roles should be regarded the same as males who bear the burden of manhood and all its discipline, which is basically what heterosexuality is, to the point where their morals have declined into selfishness so badly that the word 'heterosexual' no longer carries any real moral weight, it just means 'not gay'.

Females were naturally selected to mature more slowly. That they dont have the capacity of men for certain tasks doesnt mean they arent valuable. An immature person has social assets that men are forced to abandon to stay sharp in the roles they are expected to fill; defense, labor, authority...

>>8779370

By contrast, women are indeed irrational and not suited for authoritative decisions. This is not a weakness, it is natural specialization. To survive as an individual, one must compete. That means being brutal, selfish and dispassionate about the condition of others. It means abandoning empathy. However we are social creatures. All social interactions are transactional on some level. One has to lead and some have to follow or its a constant contest for power. Therefore to be social, one has to abandon that selfishness, which is irrational, because the individual has to forfeit an immediate personal advantage to defer the contest of power for group gains elsewhere, thus the desire for law and heirarchial organization. Women are irrational, they are physically forced to defer and thereby gain advantage for the welfare of the couple, family and community which obviates the power contest so society can come together and spend time and resource for the good of the many. Selflessness is irrational, but it is the glue that holds social structure together. You cant have a society of all kings and lords. To teach otherwise is to destroy that fabric...

>>8779371

Nature *picked* females to have what we consider feminine qualities. If we didn't have them, we would invent them or die out. If a society was nothing but humans with all male qualities that could breed, what would happen? They would either all eventually kill each other in contests for power and domination of the self, or the strong would begin to subjugate the weaker. The first order would be for personal satisfaction, that being sex. That would lead to using the weak for less strenuous tasks, being what are viewed as womens roles in domestic maintenance. Males would naturally begin selecting attributes in their kept humans to remain smaller and more selfless, and keeping youthful attributes the longest. Some species have very little sexual dimorphism, but we are not one of them. We made deliberate decisions in what we selected in females. Therefore females have the assets to physically excel in the social roles we need. When you throw out those roles, and tell the females to act as males, or encourage males to become effeminate, you have the perfect formula to destroy a society. Its not that women cant do a lot of things men do, they just *typically* dont have the neurophysiology or physical assets to do them as well statistically.

Either one subscribes to the alter of the self, or the many. In a society of individuals serving the self, the society will eventually fall. And you are free to resent it all you want. You can have your grudge against your own life, your physical form and so on. But society and social pressures exist all the same, and you will be continuously frustrated...

>>8779374

Our language is not only imperfect, but it is constantly being sabotaged to deliberately blur meaning, because words advertise ideas. Today, built into the language of 'equality' is the idea that being inferior is somehow shameful. If I have a subordinate role, I am necessarily a lesser person and am regarded as less worth. When a social superior takes this view of inferiors, s/he will eventually make enough enemies that they will be dispatched, because mathematically, followers by definition will always outnumber leaders. When inferiors take this view of themselves, they will well up with self loathing, resentment and frustration, because they are ignoring their assets, envy what they dont have instead of celebrating what they do have, and adopt and internalize toxic ideas voiced by the smallest minds.

Social laws reflect this. Most societies do indeed treat women as inferiors. But likewise, they offer them special protections from various abuses they are the most vulnerable to. Even slaves had protections. But these emanate from roles, the concept that inferiors have value and worth socially, otherwise you end up with a rebellion if enough suffer abuse from small minded superiors. Men are forced into empathy out of social need. Its among the things that distinguish us from lesser primates, we have to make priority of abstract concepts in place of immediate satisfaction or emotions. We could never enjoy social benefits if every male went around fucking or killing anything he pleases...

>>8779367
>men just aren't that stupid to commit to monogamy if they dont have to
I am "just that stupid", a monogamous romantic. And a fairly pathetic one at that.

I don't dispute the fact that most people aren't, and I don't hold it against them.

>>8779377

So an inferior role does not make an inferior person. One mustn't adopt and internalize the bigoted views of malefactors. Likewise, a superior role does not make superior worth socially,

because that role demands recognition of the value of inferiors. While animals may constantly vie for domination, a social order of thinking beings requires voluntary submission

because submission is what legitimizes authority of one by the many. Males have to submit to authority constantly and while it may momentarily frustrate them, they dont walk around

beating themselves up over the natural order because the alternative to heirarchy is clear and unpleasant. Social rebellions of any type are an agreement to prioritize chaos over the

existing order to the end of benefiting the individual, at least for a while, while disrupting the society to do it.

So you either subscribe to society and civilization or you dont. Its a choice. But what you dont get to do, even if your opposition complies, is expect there not to be consequences. Be gay,

straight, trans, marry or dont, be an ideal male or female or gender jam. You do have that choice. But it is your choice, and choices have consequences in nature that no philosophy can

argue away.

Class dismissed.

>>8779378

And there is not a damn thing wrong with that. I *wish* I could be. I got to be one like everyone else for a while at the same time as everyone else: in youth before you know better.

Nothing you believe is *wrong*. It just has consequences. Its only 'wrong' if you reject the consequences as being more than cause and effect and decide the universe is unfair and wrong itself. Life is hard, really hard, and a lot harder for a lot of people and creatures. I cant imagine anything as cold and unfeeling as the universe. But life is the light, the contract that means no matter how hard it is, no matter how quickly we pass from being, we get to make choices in spite of it and there is nothing the nature of the universe can do to undo what we choose. We shape it for eternity, if only a little.

So I dont want people to interpret this as 'abandon hope'. Its not that at all. Men are free to pursue 'the one' all they want. And damned if it doesnt actually work sometimes. But the odds are what they are. Its nothing to mourn, its the challenge. And one can succeed. But if one bases their happiness on things that are hard to do, then they will usually be unhappy. Instead, if one seeks that romance, celebrate the effort, the possibility. I am not trying to talk people out of happiness. I just want to remind them that they have choices, and some are harder and less rewarding than others. Its just a matter of opinion and how often that opinion comports to the odds of success.

Have a good day, all.

Anyone heard from gatchanon lately?

Are any of you going to Rosa Wiesn in Munich this year?

>>8779367
Fuck off gramps, no one cares what your old ugly ass thinks.

>>8779377
>Most societies do indeed treat women as inferiors.
Delusion.

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>tfw just had unprotected sex when I think I have some sti, without saying anything

>>8779836

What is bait?

>>8779843
Elaborate? It wasn't fucking exactly either, he put some pressure on my bum and I let it slip in a few times :3

>>8779029
>You rarely see a straight couple where some hot gym bunny has a fat slob on their arm
I see tons of 8+/10 for guys with fat gross chicks.

Vagina is a hell of a drug.

>>8779777
Societies don't have to pretend women are inferior. They just are.

>>8779877
>They just are.
And society compensates for it by making them socially superior. Overcompensates, nowadays.

Do you hang out with straight guys ? How does it work ?

>>8770466

Top or bottom and why/why not?

>>8779896
I hang out pretty much exclusively with straight guys.

I honestly wonder what it's like to have gay friends. I feel like it'd be awkward with gay friends, since there's more likelihood of attraction messing things up.

>>8779899
Top, because I like fucking and don't enjoy stuff in my butt. The domination aspect is fun too.

>>8779890
I agree with the last part, but it's new historically.

Women really shouldn't have a right to vote. Or non land owners, honestly.

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>>8770865
> Doctor on grindr
come on m8

>>8779896

Yeah, obviously. Most of my friends are straight.

>>8779899
Depends on guy and mood. Because both are nice. Hands, mouths and dick grinding are nice too.

>>8779917
Kek
Not the first doctor I meet on Grindr, the other worked the ER. Fucked a few med students too.

I think it's more likely for them to be on Grindr to be honest. If you're busy and successful, you don't have time for bullshit getting to know you stuff.

>>8779899

Top - I can only speak for myself but I mostly get off on the emotional aspect. Literally penetrating another dude immediately places him in a more submissive position. His entire pleasure is based on what you choose to do to him. On a slightly more controversial note, I find the notion of being passive to be a little emasculating. So when a run of the mill 'ordinary guy' type wants me fuck him, i'm game. It's mostly the power dynamic that interests me.

>>8779950
I wonder if straight guys get exactly the same feelings about women?

>>8779917
>fisting a shitty anus
>and then fisting a man's chest during procedure
peak gay medical lifestyles

>>8779963
Not him, but as a bi guy the domination aspect isn't as intense with a woman. They are designed to submit.

>>8779963

I'm bi, not straight but no, it's not the same, at least not for me anyway. I guess the fact that it's expected that you top in straight relationships kinda removes the power dynamic somewhat. But fucking a dude is different. He's been told what his sexual position is supposed to be for most of his life. You penetrating him is a reversal of the expected role. You're pushing him into what is essentially a submissive role where you have power over him. That's just my two cents anyway.

>>8779899
Bot - it just feels amazing. Although I wish doggy wasn't as popular, the position does nothing for me but as soon as we transition into prone bone I'm in heaven. Feeling his body over me, his breath on my neck, unable (and not wanting) to do anything but take it as he tries to go deeper w/ every thrust is g o o d s h i t

>>8779896
Outside of work, not really. I don't go out of my way to hang out with any group for that matter, especially these days you're lucky to get a friend who isn't busy for an hour to just get some lunch.

>tfw a random gay guy completely destroyed my confidence, even though I didn't even engage a conversation with him

>>8780066
Get blocked on Grindr?

>>8780101
No, at a bar with friends, and when I was leaving I said "all of hou guys are great, but I gotta go", and he said "wont miss you", even though he was a friend of a friend in their own group, and we didn't even talk, and I wasn't an asshole to anyone prior, and we don't know each other.

I really feel like trash.

>>8780115

Relax, it was prob a joke. Try not to get worked up over irrelevant shit like this.

>>8780115
so this is what autism is like

which apps have you had the best luck in?

>>8780348
Luck with relationships or luck with sex?

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>>8780348
I don't need one because I'm hot.

>>8779992
>>8779995
I've seen bi posters attracted to mtfs or gender bending fantasies say similar things to >>8779950 about trans women or gender bent boys.

Maybe that's a way of having the same kind of dominance as over a male, over a female?

>>8780581
Can't speak for everyone. But I like guys and girls, but ftm and mtf weirds me out.

cum tastes pretty bad hey

>>8780115

You shouldnt doubt your instincts: he probably was engaging in some rather cowardly malice.

However your reaction to it is in error. You were attacked, true. You were vulnerable and it hurt, quite understandable. But the emotion is lingering and affecting perception, and that is a result of the error of giving credibility to the notion you deserved attack. Its a defense from a position of fear and then despair. These are products of normal conditioning, and while nothing to be ashamed of, they are not helpful in human interaction.

FIrst, decide whether you deserved the attack or not. Its a binary question with only one right answer; you didn't. But you have to understand why and believe it.

Then, consider better responses emotionally. The typically more helpful emotion is anger, but only as a place holder, not something to act on, mitigated to mere annoyance. This will give you confidence in your worth, clear your mind, and the next time you engage him or some other shitbag, you will be ready to fire back. Eventually, with enough confidence as protection from cruel remarks, you will even be able to toy with him, and get him on defense. There may be social order to consider, so it only has to be enough to let him feel one jab every time he steps out of line, and force him to over react.

This puts you back in control, where you need to be. Best wishes.

>>8780115
Sounds like a catty queen desu. That probably felt threatened for some reason.

>>8780614
tell your bf to stop eating like garbage

Is autofellatio hot or cute or like, just gross?

>>8780701
Depends.
Can he fellate himself because he's really flexible or because his dick rubs his nipples whenever he gets hard?

>>8780701
it's gross in all cases for the 'outsider' unless they're fucking you in a position that allows you to suck yourself off in that case they're already turned on and will either tolerate it or enjoy the flexibility

>>8780712
The former.
>>8780725
Oh, huh ok

>>8780701
Probably depends on whether the guy is hot or cute or gross. I think it'd be fun to fuck a guy while he's sucking himself off

>>8780727
>The former.
Depends on looks then.

>>8780701

Its interesting but not exactly hot. But then I rarely find any sort of solo act to feel sexual. I think its neat, but it doesnt really turn my engine. Those who can typically cant do it well. I used to and I felt like a damn idiot every time I did.

Its like people who eat their own jizz. I just dont get it and it grosses me out a bit. I can see doing it for someone else, but it just seems absurd to eat your own.

>>8780729
>>8780734
Let's say this guy looks like a twink

>>8780737
good enough

>>8780737
>mangled bones curling up on itself
not as impressive

>>8780766
mangled?
kek

>>8780673
No, he was an older guy, the alpha of the pack in a way.

>>8780797
Maybe that's why he felt threatened. Any new blood is a challenge to his alpha queen status.

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whom here /goodgirl/

>>8780581

It's complicated. With trans folk, I mostly judge them on whatever their gender identity is. So if it's a MtF (and she looks like a typical women) then I just put her into the same category as women in general in that I obviously expect them to be passive. With just ordinary gay/bi dudes, it's different.

They're told from the get go what they are supposed to be. From the vantage point of society, a man is ordinarily supposed to top. He is instinctively placed in the dominant position.

Reversing the traditional roles and fucking him puts him in a position of submission. In order for him to get what he wants, he has to literally submit to another man. He basically becomes your bitch for the night and I find this whole dynamic insanely attractive. It's probably why I prefer the dude I'm fucking to be a 'typical ordinary guy' type. He's been told that he has to take the 'active' position for most of his life and here he is, breathing heavily and on the brink of an internal prostate orgasm, as I penetrate him. Again, just my two cents. It would be interesting to hear others views on the subject.

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>>8781437
>It's probably why I prefer the dude I'm fucking to be a 'typical ordinary guy' type. He's been told that he has to take the 'active' position for most of his life and here he is, breathing heavily and on the brink of an internal prostate orgasm, as I penetrate him.

this so much

>>8780940

I wonder what is with them. Its not that they are shallow and simple minded. Its that they are all that and perpetually defensive and miserable. They seem neurologically incapable of acknowledging anything outside their own broken, inflated ego. Its not even arrogance, its just pathetic posturing, some notion that the universe revolves around them and yet they could not be more self loathing. Its almost as if they exist to spite suicide, and the only relief from their self hatred is dispatching misery to anyone around them that causes the least reminder of their own wretchedness. They become self hatred incarnate. Its not all old queens, but so many of them. You rarely meet a well adjusted one that has an upbeat view of life and basic decency towards others.

I used to think it was a city thing, but even isolated backwater shit holes have them.

>>8781437

Thats cool. Its nice to hear from someone who appreciates that it takes a definition of gender roles to experience the thrill of annihilating them in your case as a 'top', or in my case as a 'bottom', being liberated from them.

>>8781474
It's only relatively recently that society started leaning more toward being accepting of gays. A lot of those old queens were people who have had to deal with dishonment, conversion attempts, and physical abuse. I can see why a lot of them would end up being bitter and hating everyone when they grow up. It's a problem that the LGBT community at large will have to spend generations to sort out.

>>8770466

Bump

>>8781437
This is exactly the reason why I enjoy bottoming. I find the concept of completely surrendering myself to the will of another man the utmost sexually gratifying thing possible. Fully submitting myself in order for him to take complete dominance and to utterly please him by bending completely to his desires.. nothing is better than this feeling.

>>8781603


idk... theres enough who arent warped also and simply retreat gracefully. I just assumed they were horrible people when they were young that just got older and suffered a lifetime of horrible decisions.

They are incredibly shallow and self centered to the point of being blind and insensate to anything but what they want (and typically dont get). They seem to have zero empathy or human interest. Like some sort of robot executing the same paranoid bitch routine their whole life.

They say there is no fool like an old fool. I just assumed bitter old queens were the same. I know some that are old and bitter but genuinely try to keep some humanity and can find a little joy in life. But those that are in constant rage mode are just awful, like some sort of impotent rage junkies.

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>>8781771

>a kindred spirit

<3

>>8773425
That 'truism' ends with "but don't rule out malice" if I'm not mistaken. :P

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