Miracles

>>8762154

I'm not trans, but for some reason I love these progress charts. It makes my heart feel good that people are becoming what they want and feel like inside. You know they have to happy enough to cry.

>>8762193
>After this many months I can trick closeted gay guys or drunk straight guys into sex.

True heros!

>>8762202

Sounds like someone had a bad experience once. I promise not everyone is out to get you.

>>8762154
look at those fucking shoulders
that's a man, baby

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>>8762154

>>8762154

This doesn't seem legit, the last one is a cis-woman's body. HRT can't give you female bone structure.

i don't believe it.

>>8762154
Wow. Amazing progress. How old are you? Just curious.

>>8762214
It's just a different angle that makes the shoulders look not so wide. Trust me.
t. PhD in angles

>>8762210
>its a man baby!
>>8762214
>its a cis woman, baby!

This site...

>>8762214
same hands, same clavicle, same tits, same elbow angle, same phone for that matter
this guy obviously had a somewhat feminine shape to begin with, plus some weight loss

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>>8762242
don't listen to them, u got an amazing body.
even if progression pictures turn me off every time

>>8762214
You guys don't seem to realize how much of your appearance is shaped by things like muscle and fat.

You take a skeleton, and most people would not be able to tell if it's a male or a female. It's rarely as clear cut as you saw in your highschool biology books.

Pretty much all of your appearance is determined by things which aren't your skeleton.

>>8762258
>wishful thinking

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>>8762258
looks the same to me

>>8762154
That dude has the same body as me pre-hrt except I got those 7 month tits starting because gyno, gives me hope

>>8762202
closeted gay guy here, Id be 'tricked' by pre wouldn't touch after 2 months iterations

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>>8762265
Let's look at this skeleton.

If the skeleton were the biggest thing determining appearance, thighs would be fucking tiny, as would your arms and whatnot. There would be no breasts. Your skull would be much more harsh and angular. The 'waistline' would essentially just be your spine.

I want you to feel around your body- poke it, squeeze it, apply some actual pressure. Anything with any give to it isn't bone.

I'm not saying your skeleton has no impact, but it has a lot less impact than people think.

>>8762290
This is what I'm talking about when I'm saying that the biology books try to make them seem as distinct as possible. Typically in the field, when trying to determine whether a skeleton belonged to a male or a female, there's only one actual bone that's useful- and that's the pelvis. Everything else has such a huge range that it's simply not a reliable way to determine sex.

Pictures like yours are used to show different trends.

Also, look at the pictures, and look at everything that isn't bone or cartilage. That's a combination of mostly fat and muscle, which both change notably with HRT.

When you start off with hips like that of course you're going to be fine. Stop acting like that was in any way a bad starting point

>>8762193
you're not alone: I save every progress charts & watch them for hours , and sometimes even cries idk why

>>8762240
Lighting can make or break a photo too

>>8762346
Obviously a male skeleton I can tell by the pixels.

>>8762290
Women are such ribcagelets tbqh.

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>>8762258

>>8762193
Are you a straight man? It's weird to see this sentiment expressed by anyone desu

>>8762346
Obviously male skeleton

>>8763491
>positivity on 4chan
kek

desu I don't think it's that uncommon. In my early days of transition/coming out to myself, I got emotional over transition timelines, both for the person transitioning and imagining my future. People usually look so happy at the end :)

>>8763512
congrats, you managed to entirely miss the point I was making. Did you just look at the picture and decide you knew what I said?

>>8763541
Phoneposters can only really shit out under one sentence quips. They act like this is twitter where they have a 200 char text limit and all complex thoughts must be summarized to their most basic form.

>>8762154
Already had ridiculously good feminine hips at the start, just wore clothing that de-emphasized them.

>>8762202
what about trans people already in relationships? lol

>>8762154

I found myself kind of surprised when I saw my hips yesterday, actually. It was interesting.

>>8762258
>most people would not be able to tell if it's a male or a female
hon detected

>>8767981
How old are you?

>>8769180

22 with two years on HRT. Not as much change as the OP's picture, but it surprised me. I dismissed it as my eyes probably playing tricks on me again.

It makes me curious about when the girl in OP's picture started.

HOW does one achieve this?

>>8762154
Not a trans hater, but her arm are really long. I didn't realise until I saw this picture that makes must have much longer arms than females, because proportionally her arm look much longer than Cis females.
Maybe I'm wrong.

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>>8769499

>>8762154

Does anyone know age they started?

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>>8769502
What are you proving?
I just googled and women definitely do have shorter arms. I didn't know this.

http://www.womenscycling.ca/blog/georgena-terry/womens-body-proportions-different-mens/

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Heres another pic of the girl in OP, she says she started at 34

>>8769529
Hormones can't fix her face.

>>8762154
Background is the same in every pic but the last one, fake and gay

>>8769513
Looks like 19-early 20s

>>8769533
lol too true

People who post before an after pics don't see the daily self-hate that goes on in these people's heads. The dirty looks from strangers also probably sucks. RIP

>>8769533
money and surgery might though

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>>8762154
>>8769529
>tfw knocking on the door of 12 months pre-HRT

Is there hope for me, lads?

>>8763317
Disabled toilet ?
Can't even use female ones hon

>>8771909
Pretty sure robin has some physical problem genius...

>>8762154
Does anyone know what this person actually took?

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thoughts?

>>8772211
outfit isn't helping at all

>>8772211
Greg House in tha house.

>>8772211
Ive always thought Robin was weirdly cute. Very interesting and unique-looking person, and nto at all unpleasant to look at. Not particularly feminine, but not really masculine either. Just a strange androgyne that ends being kinda cute.

>>8769205
the change in spinal curvature + change in fat placement + change in muscle REALLY does make a difference

it's somewhat subtle but at the same time the change makes it obviously not the body of a male

>>8763317
She has a particularly bad skeleton, most MtFs don't look nearly as bad

>>8769533
Faces are the easiest to fix

>>8762154
God damn I don't even have an A-cup after 3 years of HRT. I got nothing except a passing face and a flat honbod

>>8775151
Passing face is worth more than its weight in gold thoughh

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>>8762154
>last pic
WHERE THE RIBCAGE GO

>>8774444
>>8772211
>>8763317
kill me
or send me copious amounts of dissociatives alternatively

I am trapped in my own personal hell

>>8771909
I use the disableds because A) don't get hassled and B) I'm disabled, the extra balancing aids and extra room are genuinely useful sometimes
I put my crutches out of frame for those pics 'cause they were cluttering up the shot

>>8776381
still there, just lighting made it less noticeable.

>>8772211
my only thought is "swami eats shit out of used diapers" also "arent you a dumpster hon"

>>8772211
I am sure with that pic ppl pity you if that is what you want

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>>8762202
Everyday heroes!

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>>8776912
>six pointed star necklace

can we see faces. alot of people look like tgey have the body but im not sure about the face

>>8776927
>dumb stormfag doesn't know what the star of david looks like

>>8762154
I'm not even a month in and I'm hungry all the fucking time now. Is that normal?

>>8776912
lol'd irl

>>8762154
>2 months pre hrt
>already kind of feminine hips
HOW?!

>>8778649
I don't know anon, I'm not her but I've got the exact same thing. Her body could BE mine, it's uncanny to me how close it is, although I'm substantially older.

>>8762193
thans for being an ally!!! :):):)
fuck off leddit