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MTFG: diva cup edition

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• Makeup tutorials: http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post /116605714860
• Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
• Correct hormone levels: http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
• Checking your levels: http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php
• Transition time lines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• Voice Training: https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
http://www.genderlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/voicebook020.pdf
• Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
• IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg

Previous thread : >>8757011
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how do I get a 30+ yo gf
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>>8758502
Go to lesbian bars.
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>>8758502
Flirt with internet trannies and eventually one will fly you out to live with her and be your sugar daddy.
I have a sample size of 1
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>>8758505
im not old enough
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how do you human interaction
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>>8758491
Not at all
I look young myself and a lot of people think I'm in uni
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>>8758509
i keep trying that but i only get weird people
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Reminder that Elanna is a chaser
Protect yourselves
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>>8758518
how is being chased by cute girls bad though
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>>8758518
how do we stop elanna from chasing again

how do we protect the young trannies from elanna chewing them up and spitting them out like cherry pips
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https://media.8ch.

net/file_store/1136a3b7f3efcf5175b18bbb31daa9f670ed52438477c5c153957b480d4b51bd.mp4 :weary:
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>>8758525
I like this new canon
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>>8758524
I have a complex theory that Elanna is a murderer
(She also might be the Lindbergh Baby but I haven't finished that investigation yet)
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>>8758513
A S P E R G E R S
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>>8758530
i posted that once do you remember that
>>8758531
that's me
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>>8758509
>daddy
rude

>>8758502
I hope you like kids.
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>>8758542
>rude
It is very clear you have not met my ex. They are a amab ftm tbqh
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>>8758525
that's why she wants everyone to transition
she wanted to make a little produce clerk transition just so she could chase them, it's despicable really
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>>8758528
your reign of sexual terror WILL come to an end
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what is your perception of me in general looking for feedback

please respond
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>>8758544
thank you for posting this
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>>8758502
Taking applications
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>>8758555
You should stop posting food pics. Some of us are trying to lose weight.
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>>8758561
You too huh?
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>>8758555
Bunnies are the cutest creatures on the planet and make me very happy. So I like you.
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estrogen4all
no exceptions
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>>8758561
no one is impressed when you post stuff like this

>>8758565
hugg
>>8758556
hugg
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>>8758535
no i dont sorry familam
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>>8758561
Sounds like you're weak
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>>8758552
she can get in line, there's a waiting list for that booty
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>>8758553
But I'm a virgin
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>>8758563
Yeah, I'd like to go back around 60kg. Unfortunately, spending more time visiting my parents makes that hard...
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>>8758574
How tall are you?
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>>8758574
And ikr, that's why I've avoided visiting family the entire year. They just stuff you with food and good luck calorie counting auntie's mystery soup.
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>>8758555
please i need feedback to improve my posts
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>>8758578
171 cm.
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>tfw no pet rabbit
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>>8758585
i think your hands are always really fat and your spine has no cabbage
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so once i transition how long do i have to wait before qt boys and grils will want to date me/cuddle/do lewd stuff
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>>8758546
Isn't that double rude since they can't sire kids?
There's the skin cell thing but there's no functioning man parts coming (getit) anytime soon, and a syringe and a lab coat just isn't that sexy.
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>>8758594
Took me a year.
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>>8758573
i fell for that once in church, i'm not falling for it again

you must have half a whorehouse worth of experience by now
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>having pets )))zoo slaves(((
i hope those are outdoor wild rabbits that grace your yard
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>>8758591
>your spine has no cabbage
what did u mean by this
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>>8758595
I'm not sure you truly get me so have a picture of two anime girls squishing bobs
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>>8758602
lewd
please delete this lannu
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>>8758602
how2 be animu gril ?
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>>8758613
this is getting out of hand, i'm going to have to issue you with a cease & desist from the BPD (bun police department)
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>>8758602
Reminder:
If things don't look exactly like elannas futa girl animes she gets autistic
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>>8758619
ok sorry
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>>8758497
Pretty sure this is the most beautiful thing I've seen in my entire life. Really glad I got the chance to see it. I know the picture sucks, but it's the only one I got that showed the corona. Was 1000X more amazing in person.
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>>8758585
Aren't you just trolling by spamming bunnies every so often?

>>8758573
I literally don't believe you.

>>8758594
Something about skull size.

>>8758602
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>>8758619
more like the borderline personality disorder department
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>>8758642
how is that trolling
>>8758645
i don't think i have that do i seem like i do
sorry
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>>8758620
Trying the ol bullying technique to flirt with Elanna eh?
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>>8758647
im projecting
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>>8758642
I'll prove it to you, we need to take our clothes off first though.
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sometimes i think i look cute and other times i think i look really ugly how do you tell which is accurate
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can everyone please stop posting pictures of cute anime girls doing cute/lewd things together
it's making me gayer
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>>8758573
>>8758649
She stole my line
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>>8758656
I don't post anime girls.
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>>8758573
shes a liar
one time she grabbed some little Asian girl (who couldn't have been more than 17 or 18) and ran off to the washroom for a solid half hour
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>>8758659
No pictures of Michael Jackson either please
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>>8758656
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>>8758660
We were just trying to draw with our stp devices
It was art dammit
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tell me more
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>>8758664
no stop i must maintain an equal balance between my gayness and non gayness
or else the sun blows up
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>>8758666
>We were just trying to draw with our stp devices
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>>8758670
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>>8758656
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>>8758656
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that feeling when you have several mental illnesses which alienate you from other people in addition to being transgender
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Huh thats more anime pic than i thought i thought this is where the men go to feel pretty well ill take the pics anyway
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>>8758682
iktf :(
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>>8758673
>>8758674
>>8758680
STOP !
the sun will blow up
and you will all be responsible
i am (not) gay, ok
some boys are still cute tho
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The amount of bunbuns in this thread is awesome. <3
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>>8758688
>i am (not) gay, ok
sounds like someone needs conversion therapy~
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This is the perfect spot for yuri pics thank anon for making my job easier
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>>8758690
if by that you mean a cute gril putting a shock collar on me than im all for it
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>>8758687
hugg

>>8758689
hugg
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How do I make her happy?
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>>8758694
no, i mean a loli tasering you
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>>8758690
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>>8758699
what
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Keep the pics coming i need them for my folder
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>>8758701
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>>8758602
i hate the excessive saliva so much (it's gross and lesbians)
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>>8758701
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>>8758698
that's fine too
so ive decided that tonight is my gay night, and that tomorrow ill be extra straight to balance it out and prevent the sun from exploding
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You people are great i mean you are helping me and u what good people
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mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy mommy
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>>8758697
Kill him
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>>8758697
Cuddle her when she goes into one of her tard rages. Maybe sit on her so she can't hurt herself.
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>>8758708
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>>8758647
I mentally blocked the posts after a couple threads. What else do you call spamming off topic and getting no (you)s?
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>>8758710
yeah
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>>8758706
do that dance nigga
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>>8758718
idk
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>>8758710
where do i find one of these
asking for a friend
(the friend is actually me)
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it me
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>>8758712
Kill her with kindness?

>>8758715
I'm going to sit on her the next time I see her for sure.
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>>8758703
I kind of like it for how much filthier it makes it feel, I like my Yuri lewd, as most straight girls do.

>>8758684
Sounds fun
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>>8758727
>I'm going to sit on her the next time I see her for sure.
Pin her down for her own protection. Then kiss her for her own protection.

It's for her own good.
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>>8758730
>Straight
>Girl
i have bad news
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>>8758651
It'll get cold.

>>8758706
If you straighten things out too much, they'll break.
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How come I don't have a vagina?
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>>8758732
needs more wet
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>>8758734
r u tryna tell me im stuck being gay
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>>8758734
I'm sure we could heat things up
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You know what sucks about being a girl?

Shaving your legs is just something you do, it's lost it's agp fun
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>>8758732
She calls me a fgt whenever I kiss her.
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>>8758727
Violently

It's what he'd want
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>>8758737
This is going good so far
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>>8758746
Sometimes you have to be gay to be kind.
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>>8758744

A lot of women these days don't shave their legs. Not a majority or anything, but a large enough amount that people would take you to be a feminist, not trans.

You could also epilate. Lasts longer, and eventually decreases the amount of hair
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>>8758744
masturbate to the thought of a boy running his hands up them
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>>8758749
No comment im not into real girls also is she mentally ill also tell her to shave
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>>8758730
>straight girls
>yuri
Nice try.
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>>8758741
keep takin those pills
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>>8758744
The smoothness afterwards always brings some of the AGP back.
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>>8758752
Yeah I'll do that next, I just shaved because I was going from man hair (well kinda I can't grow leg hair the same any more like 50%)
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=05erFd7HQS4

Why does this make me want to start doing dance again
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>playing music on Xbone while playing other stuff
>wear wireless headphones while playing
>the sound is sorta weird for some reason, almost sounds like it's doubling the audio
>take headphones off
>realize sound has been blaring out of the TV at like max volume while also playing through my headphones for the last half hour
>tfw share wall with my parents' room
shit
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>>8758760
i have, no pills : (
but
there is a plus side
since i have not taken girl pills
im am technically a "boy"
meaning im not gay for now
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>>8758761
Thanks for the trap too now i yuri and traps this is a glorious day
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I wanna get yuri'd
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>>8758755
I am a completely heterosexual girl who most definitely would not try to seduce other heterosexual girls. I don't like wat ur implying
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>>8758769
AGP.
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>>8758769
because you are trutrans
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>>8758770
>while playing other stuff
"other stuff"?
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>>8758774
does anyone else doubt the factuality of the contents of this post?
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>>8758771
git out fgt. low t qt's only
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>>8758769
this video triggered my gender dysphoria :(
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>>8758752
I never shave. I use my IPL gun once before summer to wear skirts and swimsuits, it takes a few months to regrow then it just stays the way it grows the rest of the year. Shaving is bad, anyway, causes too much ingrown hair and rashes. Want smooth legs, epilate.
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>>8758780
I was playing GTA lmao
I browse porn on my phone anyway, not my computer
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>>8758741
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBYuqBgpxt0

>>8758742
I think I feel a headache coming on.

>>8758752
Those aren't women. Feminists, I mean.

>>8758753
>masturbating
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someday we will put an end to evil lauren's RELENTLESS trolling
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Im not letting this thread die i need those pictures i will bump this till the end of time also people actually talk here
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>>8758497
Wow that's an old meme
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>>8758804
im not evil :(
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>>8758810
there is nothing more evil than posting bunnies, scumbag
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>>8758802
>>masturbating
>not masturbating as you writhe around on your bed thinking about a boy pinning you down
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>>8758785
i think it's cute that elanna is unable to talk about her sexuality without coating everything in layers of sarcasm and irony

it's like when someone accuses you of being gay in school, so you go over the top and be like "HAHA YEAH, I'M SOOOO GAY, I WISH SOMEONE WOULD STUFF A MILE OF COCKS DOWN MY THROAT, I'D REALLY LOVE THAT"
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>>8758807
you'll be fine

mtfg threads are pretty much always semi-active it seems. I think we normally start a new one every day or so
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one time I saw a video on how to simulate a period as a transwoman, as a mtf I think that is so retarded but have any other trannies really felt like "Oh I wish my gaping hole bled" knowing that it will never naturally happen as it does for biological females or am I just not a trutrans?
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>>8758790
the evil t hasn't totally gotten me yet i safe for now
>>8758802
do not bully me
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>>8758812
But... Bunnies are tasty.
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>>8758802
I'm sorry I must have cranked the heat up too high

>>8758816
That's normal right?
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>>8758821
delet
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>real life
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>>8758819

On the one hand I kinda do want that, because anything to be closer to natal women sounds good to me

but on the other hand if I can't even get pregnant, I don't see any actual reason to want anything period like. From everything I can understand, a period is actually just awful all around.
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I expect anime pics in the next two post im watching
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something cool about bein a tran girl is you probably look kinda elfish
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>>8758819
Nah, I grew up as one of the girls so I learned very early to be glad I couldn't have periods.
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DO NOT EAT BUNNS
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>>8758827
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>>8758823
Huh i was right how about that
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I've never eaten bunns
but its apparently good tastin so
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>>8758833
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>>8758828
Many trans girls look more like Elvis, to be honest.
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>>8758841
Just you.
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>>8758838
Good meme anon but seriously where is the yuri i was promised the fags live here right where are they hiding
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>>8758800
oh, well in that case it sounds like you got off rather lucky
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>>8758836
It pretty much tastes like cat.
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>>8758843
we hide the qt's when tea seeps into the lobby

get some scissors and come back
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>>8758843
there are no homosexuals on this thread, only straight, penis loving transgirls
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>>8758847
I've never eaten cat either
that I know of
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>>8758828
hmmmm
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DO NOT EAT CATS
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>>8758843
I am right here Comrade
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>>8758849
I'm asexual and I hate dicks.
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>>8758849
Good point but i heard from a source that trans people love anime probalby because they will never be as good as anime
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>>8758841
can you tell me about the phrase le oufs el platt? i read in a dali book its some sort of idiom for girls with small breasts?
also, ill never look like that. i'll freeze myself on Everest if i have to
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>>8758823
>That's normal right?
nothing about you is normal
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>>8758859
no we are all straight and love penis
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>>8758699
Source? Idgi
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>>8758854
das a cute elf
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>>8758774
You have much to learn, yung1. If you want to drop some panty, you've got to drop some yaoi.

>>8758794
I've never had an ingrown hair in my life. How are so many sisters here having trouble in this area?
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>>8758861
Oeufs sur le plat, you mean? Yup, that's small breasts.
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>>8758867
fug no pic
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>>8758867
Ill also take that even i dont like it but i perfer yuri
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>>8758873
Did someone say Yuri?
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>>8758871
how come in hentai they make everybody look like kids, it really makes me think
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>>8758862
Woo I break convention!

>>8758867
Who am I supposed to relate to or self insert as in a story about gay boys? I can't masturbate to this.
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THE ECLIPSE MADE ELANNA GAY
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>>8758875
I did got some great pics from this thread
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>>8758876
Japs are pedos, don't you know?
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tfw extremely lonely
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what is your favorite soda mtfg ?
mine is either dr pepper or vanilla coke
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>>8758878
but you're a gay boy
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>>8758878
The trap duh
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>>8758868
oh ye that must be it . pretty cute. strange painting though.
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>>8758887
coke cherry zero because when i was anorexic i got hooked on diet sodas but it's really yummy so doesn't matter
i also like raspberry coke zero, you can get it at coke freestyle machines
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I will repay you lgbt from this thread alone i got 35 pics thank you
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>>8758888
I am about 0/2 of those things

>>8758889
I am way way past that.
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im very sad
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>>8758896
Fuck off richard
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Why does mtfg flirt like this
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i miss my dog a lot
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>>8758807
https://www.pixiv.net

>>8758813
agp
g
p

I'm a delicate flower. No pinning pls

>>8758819
There isn't even any bait on this hook!
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>>8758880
And Elanna made me a drunk which means the Eclipse made me drunk
fuck the moon
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>>8758901
*glomps u*
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>>8758895
evidence would conclude that you are one of the two things
hint: ( u r gay )
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Having children is the worst thing a person can do
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oh god please fucking kill me

going off estradiol, prometrium and spiro for a few days has left me mentally unsettled and antagonised

is a bullet to the head relatively painless and quick?
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>>8758896
find an old hobby
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>>8758892
A friend who died recently on stage had a song about small breasts... https://youtu.be/dFbPNK8jzA8
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>>8758903
>agp
>g
>p
no if I was agp I would be a transbian who jacked off to being trans and being with trannies
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>>8758902
WHAT DID I JUST SAY RICHARD
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>>8758901
are you telling me there are other ways to flirt
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is taking drugs and drinking when ur sad healthy mtfg
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>>8758906
I actually am bisexual and will wholeheartedly fuck anyone who is cute, has chemistry and a good personality.

I am a massive faggot though ngl
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>>8758917
I will find and murder your bunny now fuck off
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>>8758918
>im """""bisexual"""
no your a heteromantic transbiansexual
>>
>>8758919
dont bully Lauren
Lauren is not for bullying
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>>8758908
kara is going to sit on your face
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>>8758918
>has chemistry
oh so you only fuck STEM fielders?
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>>8758919
i don't have a bunny :(
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>>8758921
>does nothing but fill every single thread with 130 pictures of rabbits
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>>8758920
or maybe she is transbianromantic heterosexual
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>>8758917
hugg
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>>8758925
Maybe I should fill the thread with pics of myself to balance that.
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>>8758925
nobody complains when you post pictures
baka
.

sorry
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>>8758905
Moo I'm a virgin straight girl don't do thattt *yuri posts*
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>>8758920
I have spent 4 times as much time dating men as I have dating women, and if men weren't so boring and stupid I'd probably put more effort into finding a boyfriend.

>>8758923
I think it's likely that I would date someone in stem yes
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>>8758920
>>8758926
elanna is a sexual non-euclidean and cares not for your petty notions of "gay" and "straight", she just wants to fuck things she finds cute (or, more accurately, get fucked by things she finds cute)
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>>8758929
I don't spam the same 1000 images a day and make threads cap 4 times faster than they should
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>>8758931
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAqt7PwzAnI
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im sorry ill stop posting
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>>8758937
Thanks im sorry about bullying laruen
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>>8758932
your romanticize men and your true sexuality was being repressed
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>>8758934
but you still act like a baka sometimes
.
.
sorry
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>>8758933
I'm pretty sure she just wants to take the knot.
>>
Some SJW retard from reddit just threatend to dox me from a phone conversation we had. I can't wait to post their weird tits and face to /pol/ for great keks if they try to dox me. Like really smart to send me your face, use a real number, send me a weird totally unprompted video of your tits, and then tell me your real name and location like go ahead and dox me.

Why are fucking reddit users so fucking retarded???
>>
>>8758943
this was not a Lauren post btw
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Im done for the day thanks for images by tommorow i will make a thread on u thank you
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>>8758943
I don't romanticise men, if anything I do that with girls.
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>>8758876
A series starring kids that look like kids WHO'D A-THUNK IT
Pathetic posters tonight.

>>8758878
I'm drying up over here.
The passion! The tension! The romance! Anyone can relate to that. Why do you need to self insert?

>>8758887
Soda makes me sick x.x

>>8758901
You'd really hate using LINE.
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>>8758932
>and if men weren't so boring and stupid I'd probably put more effort into finding a boyfriend.
that's sexist - we transgendered girls should love and respect men for the high-quality sexual intercourse they provide us with
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>>8758946
Why the fuck were you even talking with someone from Reddit in the first place?
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>>8758911
And if they are so small
It's to feel better
Below my heart beating
My heart beating for you


aww. what a way to go... doing what they loved though, surely
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>>8758954
>no this child porn is okay because the children are SUPPOSED to be children, duh? not a pedophile btw
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>>8758952
see I knew it
your homoromantic and heterosexual
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>>8758957
Yeah, she did. Sad she had to die to be mentioned in NME and get a few million views on YouTube, though.
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I know an embarrassing fact about Elanna
If she doesn't delete her Kurisu's I'll reveal it to the whole world
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>>8758954
I prefer to relate to romance from a perspective that I can actually understand and I have zero interest in stories about gay Japanese schoolboys. I can read Yuri and I can read hetshit, but yaoi gives me nothing to grab onto.

>>8758960
I've said this before but frankly I don't think the words matter all that much.

>>8758955
What if ur peeny is weeny? :)
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>>8758956
Medication research, they left their number since I had DIY questions; I loaded one of a dozen google numbers up from the NYC areacode and sent 2 fake pics of who I am and they trusted me because most retards on reddit are like that. Ironic I upload face here, right? But then I told them I hated kikes and started memeing calling trans people men because I got really sick of their bullshit and eventually I ticked them off bad enough they hilariously threatened to dox me as if that would actually be a threat to someone like me. Like first, where? To reddit? They'll get banned, and someone like him I'm certain that would bother. I am so not worried about a few SJWs. Facebook? K great so my google number gets blown up and burnt and maybe if one is really really fucking smart they dox my old phone number. They were actually very helpful besides their annoying SJW bullshit. They're "intersex trans alligned nonbinary gender fluid" aka mentally ill man/woman I actually don't fucking care which it was at all. They told me about Bica and actually convinced me through science and research it probably is a better alternative and recommended I use patches. Then I mentioned 4chan and they got triggered because wah wah wah someone killed their trans roommate from 4chan wah wah wah wah wah wah. I was like lol i hang on fucking mtfg not /pol/ and then they went full SJW libtard. So I just responded in step and started memeing with the typical bullshit we meme here. Like actually really why are people so mentally ill and stupid? Self included for actually wasting 2 hours chatting.
>>
which trips are sad
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>>8758966
Try meee
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>>8758971
me
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>>8758966
i know an embarrassing fact about coworker-chan

(she's a girl)
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>>8758971
in every sense of the word
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>>8758971
Not currently

>>8758974
I knew this too
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>>8758972
Elanna once got drunk off a regular iced tea because she thought it was a long island iced tea

>>8758974
That's blatantly false
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>>8758970
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>>8758970
Bicalutamide isn't really a good alternative. It's a pure androgen receptor blocker, so if you don't take enough to get a complete blockade, it's like taking nothing. Catch 22, it doesn't affect T levels do you can't even time the dose from blood tests.
When prescribed for hormone-related cancers, it's used as a complement to orchidectomy or GnRH blockers, not on its own, that's quite telling of how limited it is.
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>>8758909
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/97963/i_was_shot_in_the_head_2_years_ago_this_is_what/
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>>8758976
>I knew this too
please don't tell anyone, CC doesn't want anyone to know
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>>8758978
>Elanna once got drunk off a regular iced tea because she thought it was a long island iced tea
how embarassing
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>>8758983
*nod*
The secret is safe with me.
>>
bica boys smell like boys
spiro grills smell like girls
inb4 spiro sux

i don't wana be around tea producers anymore. even if tea is free floating in your blood and still being blocked by bica.
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>>8758978
>making fun of someone that was a victim of the placebo effect
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>>8758995
I'll make fun of you until the day I die
>>
elann elann elann elann elann elann elann elann elann elann elann elann elann elann elann elann elann elann elann elann elann elann elann elann elann elann elann elann elann elann elann elann elann elann elann
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Why is everyone so mean?
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>>8758978
>Elanna once got drunk off a regular iced tea because she thought it was a long island iced tea
i cringed audibly
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>>8758981
That's not what I've been reading. I've been reading it's the most effective AA on the market. Look at it's use for cancer, like you said - it was tested to be more effective than cypro and with zero side effects.

Cyproterone == suicidal feelings

Spiro == jesus fucking christ why is this on the market????

Bica == effective anti-androgen

It sounds like it's not limited, but extremely effective at blocking testosterone receptors, ergo a more effective tool for transition.

Reddit is pretty sold on Bica.
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>>8758987
i knew i could count on you, haribo
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>>8759007
>not on spiro
>thinking like a boy again

k gl u were cute
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Reminder that efficacy of hrt is determined by ability to completely suppress testosterone. Reminder that bica isn't widely prescribed because it doesn't affect serum testosterone and therefore is not possible to monitor by laboratory testing.
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>>8759007
>Spiro == jesus fucking christ why is this on the market????
its a heart medication, the anti androgenic effects are incidental
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>>8759013
hugg
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>>8759013
s-so spiro is okay even tho its old and bad and makes you pee yourself?
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>>8758946
There's one user who keeps asking people "what side effects did you have on hrt" and then when they dont reply for a bit they go like "guess youre a mute" or something similar and get really angry and call people names, and once called me an "ugly ass nigger" after presumably reading my post history. She also talks about how people are too mean to trans people.
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>>8759017
All antiandrogens are shit, but at least with Spiro you can quantify if it is working or not.
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>>8759017
>and makes you pee yourself?
I don't like where this is going...
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>>8759014
Spiro is more appropriately a potassium sparing diuretic, a side effect of higher excretion of urine is lower sodium levels, and lower blood pressure.
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>>8759025
i go pp in diap :)
>>
radio friendly unit shifter
>>
anyone want to come over and cry to Brand New with me ?
we can also do lewd or cuddle
but Brand New still had to be playing
>>
>>8759023
Cypro is measurable too.

>>8759025
Unless you have exceptionally weak bladder control or incontinence issues to begin with, Spiro shouldn't make you wet yourself. Even when I was on 300mg qd I never had that problem.
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>>8759025
i-its only happened once
or twice

>>8759026
so thats one of the reasons we crave pickles, olives and pizza?
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>>8759031
ok
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>>8759032
I never pee'd myself as an adult until I started spiro!
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bica is pic related
just cut off your balls
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>>8759007
https://www.reddit.com/r/TransDIY/comments/6rmy6d/bicalutamide_vs_spiro/


https://www.reddit.com/r/TransDIY/comments/6ntct4/expected_effects_of_only_tblockers_and_raising/
>>8759020
I'm not really sure what you're talking about here desu.

>>8759032
Yeah, after a few weeks you feel hollow inside with no energy and literally want to kill yourself :/ That's why I'm switching again to bica for my AA
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>>8759031
ok
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>>8759040
im talking about a retarded reddit user who is also trans
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>>8759032
It is
Generally needs other labwork done as well for liver function, cortisol and prolactin

Suppression of adrenal function by cypro and lower cortisol is largely believed to be responsible for the psychiatric side effects in some people on cypro
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>>8759040
what are your T and E levels lately?
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>>8759028
hissss

>>8759032
I think that one went over your head.
Also, I take 200mg and I barely even notice the diuretic effect anymore.
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>>8759041
>>8759036
ok
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>>8759051
where do u live I want to have emo cuddles
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>>8759038
Don't you fucking steal my memes
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>>8759045
I cry a lot more on cypro.
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>>8759042
Oh. This person wasn't a retard necessarily but they also kinda were. Like they knew their shit with drugs, but they're also telling me they're rying to pass as a man.


>>8759047
Last check was 2.5 months ago, I get my new tests when I go in to PP tomorrow, but my T was a 008 (like literally eight) from 12.5mg cypro/day for 2.5 weeks, and my estrogen was pretty average so I bumped my injections up to 0.5ml/5days intramuscular.

I anticipate with this new switch to bica for my AA my testosterone will boost up to low male ranges, but that wont matter at all, and after the first few weeks it will fall again as the extra DHT is converted in estrogen naturally since all testosterone receptors are blocked.
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>>8759033
Yep. Anything salty. Picture related. Pizza is saturated with sodium too, or at least, the greasy preserved meaty toppings are.

>>8759037
You probably had weak bladder control. If you're not self medding ask for some tamsulosin.

>>8759045
Correct, and in high or incorrect doses can lead to Addison's and such.
>>
>>8759053
Massachusetts, 508
come on over
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>>8758982
I was like that after over 1600 ECT jolts. Brain injuries are no fun.
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>>8759058
I mean i only shared that story because of
>Why are fucking reddit users so fucking retarded???
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>>8759056
I did too. Also was in general batshit insane on cypro and had a lot of difficulty calming down from intense emotional episodes. I smashed my phone because my then bf wouldn't answer his texts.
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>>8759059
you are all so mean
>>
>>8759059
>u probably had weak bladder control. If you're not self medding ask for some tamsulosin.
I dont want to have to take another pill
I will just deal with it
it was only at like midnight when I had to get up to pee and walk to the bathroom
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>>8759064
sounds like normal girl behavior tbqh
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>>8759067
Everyone has been being mean lately, they even bully 'lil old me...
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>>8759068
just schleep on toilet then u just wake up pee go back schleep
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pee on me
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>>8759067
I am a gentle soul. I'll whisper in your ear that I love you as I smother you with a pillow.

>>8759068
Sounds about right, on 300mg I had to get up twice a day to pee

A major reason why I got the orchi was because I was so sick of it and couldn't sleep at all
>>
>>8759072
I really don't think it's all that normal especially given I usually handle stress quite well.
>>
>>8759077
checkem
>>
CFH is over here telling me bica is not effective, but most of reddit is over here spitting hard numbers and tons of research I'm way too stupid to really understand that seems to say its the most effective drug for androgen blocking. It's prescribed over cypro and spiro for cancer, so why wouldn't it work for transition if it acts on the exact same mechinisms? I don't understand that part like if it's not effective why is it used in critical life and death situations for cancer where the other drugs are actively avoided for being ineffective (spiro) and risky+sideeffects (cypro). Seems bica is a straight up upgrade the world just isn't looking at yet.

Seems really odd. I am getting a ton of conflicting information, so I just ordered Bica and I'm going to try it myself like bitcoin went to the moon so it's basically free just from holding those coins profit. A few of the girls here I know who are passing more or less stealth are on it too as annecdote. I think it's just new to the market and poorly understood.

Anyone here online now actually on Bica? I already made up my mind since cypro is really making me suicidal and spiro is like actually a toxic shit drug that no one should ever take...


>>8759063
Oh. Yeah, redditors think they're really important too from what I observe any time I talk to them. I think because they save "karma" and user history it gives them a sense of community value, and I value no one because I'm a narcisstic shit head. Fuck reddit.

But DESU they do have good medical information.
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>>8758968
Now I just feel kinda sad for you. The self insert cult has claimed another victim.
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>>8759080
ill give u a chocolate if u smother me to death
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>>8759087
Elanna is a chemist
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>>8759064
>spiro
>traps girls
>acts like a beta male
>cypro
>acts like a girl

I guess we know which ones better
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>>8759081
did you decline my friend request, not see it or do you have a new discord?
I'd just like to know
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>>8759064
oh god, ive only recently gotten over this type of behaviour without the effect of cypro and im starting it in a week or so

>>8759077
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>>8759064
It just makes me more depressed than usual. At least I think it does.
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>>8759092
she hasnt been on an AA for a long time
are you forgetting she has a vagina
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>>8759096
ill give u a chocolate too if u let her smother me to death
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>>8759089
I'm already eating chocolate now so I'll do it for free.
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need mommy
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>>8759087
Bica is a fucking meme
Spiro is proven to be at best only effective in 50% of the case that E only won't fix

Cypro will break your dick
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>>8759110
>Cypro will break your dick
yeah but it also makes you kinda insane and starts making you claim you are a boy even though you clearly arent
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>>8759088
The feeling is mutual, you can't even into purest form of love

>>8759099
I'm not on discord right now, I'm basically just shitposting until I fall asleep
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>>8759108
ok yes thank you
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>>8759091
She's SRS last I recall. After Orchi or SRS you don't need AA from what I've been told.

>>8759110
Cypro didn't break my dick after 2 months, and my T was nuked, so that's a myth. I can still get it up, I'm just feeling hollow, unstable, and having trouble concentrating etc.
Spiro is proven to be trash and make your blood pressure low so you can pass out if you're not careful, make you piss all the time, make you feel nausea constantly. It's awful toxic bullshit and at 200mg/day I was still at male range T levels.
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>>8759113
Cypro hasn't made me insane, it is just slowly breaking my dick and I wish it would hurry up.
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>>8759114
ok. it was a dumb idea anyway
good night
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Your adrenal glands still produce some testosterone so there's a small chance post orchi or SRS you might need to continue taking an anti androgen.
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>>8759096
Rar rar is NOT a lesbian!
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>>8759120
i'm on 400mg spiro ilu
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>>8758970
Cool story bro

>>8759083

delet this

>>8759087
csb
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>>8759110
Yeah it broke my dick and I cant cum anymore.
I miss it.
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my hair smells distinctly of vomit
i dont recall vomitting recently
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This talk about dicks breaking is making the bloody dismembered stumps of my spermatic cords hurt
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>>8759142
maybe it's some weird hair product chemical reaction
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>>8759128
False. Your adrenal glands produce so little testosterone that you're likely to have a fraction of the testosterone in a natal woman that has ovaries. It is actually more common to supplement testosterone in post op women due to loss of libido

>>8759124
I'll accept it in the morning
Gn
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>>8759150
ive started washing it with conditioner only but more regularly recently
maybe i threw up this morning and forgot, i hope thats it
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>>8759148
That head shot reddit gave me some nasty flashbacks.
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>>8759151
It's rare but it happens. I've never looked into whether it would indicate an andrenal tumor or disorder though. The opposite applies as well but much more commonly.
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>>8759113
Indidnt do that till I went on spiro again
>>8759120
It literally took me two years to get semi good function back after cypro

Like nothing happened to it for a year and a half of e and spiro, and then cypro destroyed me, it's still barely useable unless I'm insanely turned on
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>>8759155
Cease!
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>>8759114
Never said I didn't like yuri, but the same old sloppy kiss pictures aren't doing much.

>>8759140
AGoraPhobia
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>>8759120
>>8759159
Did you both use it differently, or is "use it or lose it" a meme?
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>>8759163
HRT killed my AGPness by a large margin but its still there wanting to escape.
Girls just wanna have fun..
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I'm going to be the lunatic who switches from Spiro --> Cypro ---> Bica

Will keep you all updated over the next month. I'm hoping to report good news. So far (2 months almost to the day), cyproterone is great results, but the side effects are no longer tolerable even at 12.5mg/day (splitting 50mg pills). Suicidal feelings and total lack of energy and motivation, which I'm sure is correlated to my depression in general, but intensified from cypro no doubt). Sprio was the worst thing I've ever experienced.

>>8759159
See, I'm on the SRS list for 2019, I really don't want to stop having sex for another 2 years because I'm taking some stupid AA, when I could take a different AA and not literally chemically castrate. As long as my cock is there 2 years from now to become a vagina, should I so choose, then I'm set.

I'm already having enough problems with sex as it is, I don't need it being a totally dead construct. That decision more than any other is why bica is my new choice. Cypro is slowly starting to atrophy my cock, and desu I'm not cool with that. Like what am I ACTUALLY really willing to give up for transition? Sex isn't part of that list.

>>8759137
seems fake.
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>>8759160
plz call me edgy
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>>8759161
me too anon
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>>8759142
Have you eaten any Hershey products?
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sadness
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>>8759170
i'm going to steal your suporn spot when you don't have all the official documentation on time

>mfw i went official on day one and love it.
sorry you think it's fake i bet you smell like a boy on bica
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>>8759185
I was considering low key selling it, but I gotta look up the policy and laws behind that. I'm set on the paperwork front and documentation. That part is ez.
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I'll never be good enough.
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>>8759195
I think you will
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>>8759190
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>>8759171
No

>>8759183
Hugg, me too anon, my day was no fun.
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I hate when everyone just stops posting.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0KTUysrwgQ
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>>8759204
no more girl pills to feed you
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>>8759208
You're about 4 years late when it comes to liking MLP.
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>>8759213
forgot to call me a hon
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>>8759170
Spiro was legitimately bad. Cypro, I had no issues with because I never had a sex drive and the depressive effects were a drop in the bucket compared to what work had been piling up on me for years. Not taking AAs anymore, obviously. Also, to correct something you said, DHT doesn't convert to E. Aromatase only processes free T.
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>>8759223
This rain is looking like it may have the chance to double my rainfall this growing season. 2.13" so far. I had 2.75" total before.
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>>8759232
how will that affect your yield?
or at least your profits, not having to pay to water for a week or three a growing season
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>>8759223
Word, that's good to know--I often just type DHT as shorthand for testosterone, which is a bad habbit because it makes me forget it's actually a totally different thing. My sex drive is unfortunately extremely powerful and not something I have much interest in trying to supress just for a cute body. That seems the same as opting out of life itself to me, like if sex is the core of my happiness (and lately it has been) and sharing love has become hollow on these drugs, I just don't get why I'm bothering to transition at all....but then I remember, I don't actually get a choice if I want to survive. I'm not a man, I don't like my cock, I just have to use it if I want sex. buttstuff doesn't do it for me--and makes me super super upset I don't have a vagina beacuse I love being penetrated, just really not at all in the butt. I just love the sensation like spirtually I dont have words for it of stuff inside me. it's such a fucked up situation lmfao

I'm hoping bica will be better for my sex life, but people are already telling me on reddit not to get my hopes up and that the T it will allow will be blocked almost entirely and really the best I should be hoping for is maybe slightly less depression and suicidal feelings etc. And hopefully through this switch I wont feel fake, hollow, empty, distraught, and confused. Not really high hopes for most of that though :p
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Hlep gender clinic time why is Amsterdam so big
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>>8759286
>>8759286
>>8759286
>>8759286
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>>8759232
Better late than not at all. Maybe you'll get a decent second crop at least.
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Sorry, fell asleep for a bit.
>>8759239
>>8759352
no irrigation, yield on corn is shot. Soybeans may produce some more. Hay, bit effect as it not has water to grow.
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>>8759354
Oh, I only think of hay. It's all that grows here and a lot is actually bristle grass. Climate is too harsh for soy or corn.
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>>8759393
I'm only getting in my first crop of hay. Might not have time for a second.
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