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Are white trans men the next to be ostracized by the Queer Community?

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White trans males have white privilege, male privilege, and 9/10 times have passing privilege as compared to transgender women.

Their sexual orientation doesn't even matter because according to modern feminism, even gay and bi men are over-privileged and oppressive by nature.

The LGBTQIA+ community has come to conclude that even white gay and bisexual men should not have any power or even a voice in queer circles due to having too much privilege, so should we hold white transgender men in the same regard? How does lacking cis privilege make their lives any worse than the aforementioned when they pass as men and have every other privilege imaginable?

Source:
http://affinitymagazine.us/2017/02/26/why-white-trans-boys-need-to-check-their-privilege/
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Privilege means you have it better than someone else.
It's not an insult.
It's not a slur.
It's not anything personal against you.
You do not. Okay you do NOT need to feel personally offended by the acknowledgement that some have it easier than others.
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>>8746166
they still have the same feminine smiles
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>>8746172
So are you saying we should find a crippled black dyke and make her emperor of the world because she's the one with the most perfect, holy, untouchable opinion?
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>>8746166
The one on the far right is a cutie, where can I find a ftm boyfriend like him?

>>8746189
Nothing wrong with a feminine smile.
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>>8746194
No, that's your delusion based on me acknowledging facts. What we should do is find people like you, and alert them to facts that unfortunately trigger people like you, in the hopes that when you see a crippled black dyke, you do not feel threatened and angry and paranoid that they're going to overpower you. As you currently are doing.
It's just trying to be factual but every straight white boi gets ultra triggered by it.
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>>8746166
>oppressive by nature

girl please

nobody is getting ostracized

every day you create these threads trying to foment division and hatred

stop
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>>8746217
>nobody is getting ostracized
I suppose you've been living under a rock and haven't heard the constant backlash white gay men are getting for being oppressive scum these days?
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>>8746234
>hey, you have it slightly better than me dude, we shouldn't ignore this fact when analyzing society
>WOW YOU'RE OPPRESSING ME BY PAYING ATTENTION
This attitude is why people don't like you.
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>>8746234
I suppose you haven't left the house in years and instead believe all the shit you hear on Faux news and 4chin?
There is no backlash.
White gay men still lead lives of privilege.
Stop believe spreading fake news.
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>>8746166
>oppression olympics
fuck off back to tumblr
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>>8746217
>>8746253
>>8746296
I don't understand why you guys are responding seriously to these blatant shitposts. OP is clearly joking.
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>>8746358
I'm the middle post and I'm just trying to say privilege isn't a bad word.
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>>8746358
It's a popular meme. "Let's try and make giving careful thought to complete bullshit look cool so the kids will start doing it again" is what I like to call it.
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>>8746358
>responding seriously
>posts a kid sucking a black popsicle

i think you're missing some important cues, autistanon
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>>8746424
I think you're misunderstanding the context in which the word "seriously" was used.
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>>8746358
>OP is clearly joking.
About what?
Cis privilege?
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>>8746497
Except trans men don't have cocks and can't ejaculate.
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>>8746166
Someone explain to me why FtM have such distinctive eyes? All of them IRL and on the Internet.
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>>8746166
>LGBTQIA+
>QIA+
retard
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>>8746608
It's called gayface and it stems from having a smaller brow than cis males
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>>8746608
ftms rarely if ever get eye surgery
so while pills and cosmetic surgery change pretty much everything else, their eyes remain thoroughly feminine.
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>>8746637
>eyes have gender

really?
in what way are feminine eyes different from masculine eyes?
i'm a medical doctor and i can tell you they are physiologically identical.
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>>8746730
>Orbital rims are different
>Brow bone is different
>Soft tissue around eyes are different
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The left as it slowly eats itself alive like an ouroboros.

All this instead of fielding any real response to Trumpism. The sign of a movement in collapse.
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>>8746166
Yes because nonbinary tenders want to. be discriminated against for their androgynous fashion choices
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rnQbgShb6r8
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>>8746730
>eyes have gender
You're a medical doctor but this is what you got from the comment?
Tell me where you're located so I can avoid it like the plague.
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>>8746172
>Privilege means you have it better than someone else.
I hate the concept of privilege because it's monolithic and unbending. It's literally ideological zealotry because of how blind to circumstances.

Saying such a thing as white privilege exists is saying that Will Smith's kid, a multi millionaire (or is it billionaire now?) who grew up in one of the most exclusive areas of the US and the world, has top resources to pursue anything, will never have to work or seriously worry about money, will go to top schools if he decides to and will have the best of everything is some sort of poor oppressed victim while a white kid growing up in shithole mining community in Appalachia is some sort of powerful, privileged oppressor.

It's just retarded.

>>8746166
No they aren't, nice try /pol/. Trans men are still trans and society is nowhere near as accepting of trans people as it is of gay or bi people, even in super liberal areas.

Current level of trans acceptance is somewhere around the level of gay acceptance in the 90s when even Washington (the state) tried to pass anti-gay laws and nowhere near gay acceptance in 2017.

Even in liberal areas, in liberal newspapers or sites there's a lot of confusion or even hostility to trans people, nevermind in conservative places.
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>>8746739
Ok.
So not they eyes then.
But the surrounding tissue.

>>8746771
Don't worry.
I don't take transsexuals as patients.
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>>8746172
Oh boy, the flashbacks to my days of SJW Kool-aid drinking, and telling people this same patronising shit.

You're a bad person. You're attracted to these kinds of politics because something is wrong with you - nobody healthy and strong is an SJW - and because you don't take personal responsibility for your life. STOP going to liberal websites, spend some more time gathering an actual diversity of viewpoints. Take responsibility for who you are and where you are in life instead of blaming other people all the time. Realize that nobody owes you anything.
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>>8746796
>Will Smith's kid

He is more likely to get pulled over by a policeman, simply for the fact that he is black.
Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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>>8746166
They won't be ostracized. They're too meek and maleable.

They'll be kicked down, not kicked out.
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>>8746870
>He is more likely to get pulled over by a policeman, simply for the fact that he is black.
No he's not because he doesn't live and doesn't visit the poorest parts of LA (or any other city) and because he won't ever drive shitty car and wear shitty clothing.

Cops will never pull over someone in a sports car in rich part of town unless they know they can give him a ticket or know for damn sure he's guilty of something. And hell, even then, there was that story of Arab that sped like crazy in Beverly Hills in a sports car and he got a slap on the wrist.
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>>8746883
This

Idpol wants to pretend race and gender and all circumstance matters more then how much capital you've accumulated, to the detriment of all leftism itself.
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>>8746883
You don't know what you're talking about.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/09/09/you-really-can-get-pulled-over-for-driving-while-black-federal-statistics-show/?utm_term=.2dcdcf1bb9c1

"Over the past several weeks, superstar comedian Chris Rock has been posting a selfie on Instagram every time he’s been pulled over by the cops. In less than two months, Rock has made three of these posts, with the latest coming this past Monday. “Stopped by the cops again wish me luck,” he captioned with the newest selfie. He hasn’t given the specifics regarding the three instances (which occurred on February 13, February 27, and March 30), but Rock’s always been deliberate in speaking out about racial issues, and the star’s comments over the last several months have been fairly candid in regards to the current racial climate in the country."
http://www.thedailybeast.com/chris-rock-isaiah-washington-and-racial-profiling-why-black-people-shouldnt-have-to-adapt
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>>8746796
>I hate the concept of privilege because it's monolithic and unbending. It's literally ideological zealotry because of how blind to circumstances.
It's literally the definition. The literal definition.
>Saying such a thing as white privilege exists is saying that Will Smith's kid, a multi millionaire (or is it billionaire now?) who grew up in one of the most exclusive areas of the US and the world, has top resources to pursue anything, will never have to work or seriously worry about money, will go to top schools if he decides to and will have the best of everything is some sort of poor oppressed victim while a white kid growing up in shithole mining community in Appalachia is some sort of powerful, privileged oppressor.
No it's not. It's saying if everything was equal for those two people except their race, then the white one would have it slightly easier.
Then people like you come along and say it's all an anti-white conspiracy, pathetic.
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>>8746172
That's right, privilege is a good thing. Stop demonizing the privileged! By shaming them for their privilege you're only making it harder for them to check their privilege.
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>>8746893
Next you'll say Strasserism isn't that bad.

>>8746937
>a minority having it better than everyone else is a good thing
You only say that because you're part of that minority.
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>>8746942
>have no argument
>compare 'em to a Nazi!

Idpol at its finest hour.

What you are, is an enemy of the Revolution.
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>>8746942
You don't have to be privileged to recognize that being privileged is a good thing. We all should strive to maximize our own privilege. That's what life is all about.
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>>8746166
Oh, this crap has been here for a while amongst the kind of people who live on Tumblr. It's the """logical""" conclusion of their worldview being made out of string cheese and feels.

Gender is a social construct, you see. (Except when it's not, but we're never totally sure when THAT is.) Men are oppressive ogres, women are oppressed princesses. Trans women are men who choose to forfeit privilege and so are flawless angels. Trans men chose to be privileged, so we're evil. We're actually even more evil than cis men because the latter group is just ignorant or unaware that they should transition. Or something.

No joke, some of these people want a world in which "binary" men essentially don't exist. I've seen "kill all trans men" as an unironic slogan.

>>8746796
This isn't a /pol/ talking point. Look at the link at the bottom of their post.

And they get around the first thing with "intersectionality." "Intersectional" basically means that you can have "intersecting" oppressions, like someone could be privileged by class but oppressed by race. "Intersectionality" basically functions dually as a Get Out of Jail Free card (e.g. they don't actually have to explain how oppression functionally works in most given situations, they just get to hand-wave it as "complex"), and a I Get To Make It All About Me card (someone is discussing an "oppression" other than yours? no worries, you can find some obscure way to shoehorn your own issues in and then complain that being left out isn't "intersectional").

>>8746739
>soft tissue is different
W-what? Great, is this something that can't even be fixed surgically?

>>8746908
I will start feeling sorry for black people getting racially profiled when blacks stop making up massively disproportionate percentages of the criminal class.

>then the white one would have it slightly easier.
What, they'd have even MORE millions of dollars? (See what I mean about the Get Out Of Jail Free card?) Kek, neck yourself.
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>>8746946
I didn't accuse you of being a nazi. I accused you of being something even worse, a sellout, a counter-revolutionary, a brocialist, a tankie, a reactionary, /leftypol/.

>>8746953
If everyone has a privilege it's just a freedom.
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>>8746955
You're an ignorant racist.
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>>8746961
>brocalist used unironically

And there's where I stopped taking idpol seriously. Continue undermining the Revolution, supporting capitalism, and encouraging other cultures to support capitalism whilst still telling yourselves you're leftist.
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>>8746961
I don't mean that everyone should have the same privileges because then by definition it's not a privilege. I'm advocating for competition, not equality. Competition is the engine of progress.
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>>8746965
You realize your reactionary politics are identity politics too you fucking moron red fascist? I'd call you a traitor to the revolution, but this kind of nonsense is the reason there isn't one!
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>>8746908
>https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/09/09/you-really-can-get-pulled-over-for-driving-while-black-federal-statistics-show/?utm_term=.2dcdcf1bb9c1
Aha read this part
>relatively more black drivers (12.8%) than white (9.8%) and Hispanic (10.4%) drivers were pulled over in a traffic stop during their most recent contact with police.
Considering blacks are 12% of the population and close to 50% of the crime in the country that means they get pulled less often than they should. The "30% more often than whites" is taken because it sounds like a big difference but numbers are miniscule, 12.8 vs 9.8 per cent.

White privilege is a flawed concept because it doesn't take in enough factors into consideration. If you only consider things in terms of race you get a flawed view of society like in my previous example where a kid of a black star is some sort of underprivileged oppressed person we ought to feel sorry for and not a multimillionaire benefiting from classism, ever greater income inequality and limited opportunities for for advancing your own social class that exists as a result of the income inequality.
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>>8746973
The best idpol can come up with is a weak 'no you' to support its undermining of leftism.

Radical feminism was unable to provide a strategy which could develop a way forward for the majority of women. For some, the ‘personal’ ceased being ‘political’ with ‘cultural feminists’ emphasising the importance of feminine values, ‘lifestyle choices’ and separate women’s ‘cultural spheres’. Changing oneself became more important than changing society.

While a small minority of women may have been attracted to the idea of ‘separate spheres’, it was clearly not a viable way forward for the vast majority. Other radical feminists took jobs in the ‘women’s industry’ in local and national government or in women’s centres. While the work carried on in these areas was extremely important, especially in women’s refuges and rape crisis centres, for example, the day-to-day struggle for incremental reforms and, increasingly, to defend what had been gained against counter-reforms, became separated from any broader struggle to change society.

In other words, by effectively accepting the limits of the capitalist system, radical feminism represented yet another strand of ‘liberal feminism’. However, even though radical feminism has manifestly failed to offer a lasting solution to the problems that the majority of women face, this does not mean that these ideas will not be revived in the future. Given the male dominance that still exists at every level of society, the continuation of discrimination and sexism, and in particular the high incidence of violence and abuse against women by male perpetrators, the idea that men are to blame for women’s oppression and that the main struggle is against men and the ‘patriarchy’ can still gain a certain echo, particularly if the workers’ organisations fail to offer a viable alternative.
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>>8746955
>And they get around the first thing with "intersectionality." "Intersectional" basically means that you can have "intersecting" oppressions,
I wish that's what it meant but it doesn't. Not really, not in actuality.

Being progressive meant being feminist and supporting LGB rights up until about late 80s and early 90s. That's when the idea of "intersectionalism" really spread and it because trendy for progressives to shame other progressives for not being intersectional enough.

But that intersectionalism doesn't actually mean multiple oppressions intersecting it just means adding race to everything so that previous LGB friendly feminists also became race critical.

But there is more than just race, a lot more. Most importantly there is also class and class identity and classism and income inequality and all that. Funny how modern "intersectional" progressives just care about gender, sexual preference and race but are curiously absent when it comes to class. Which is made even more curious when you consider the sheer level of income inequality and worsening conditions for workers in developed countries.

Since the Occcupy movement fizzled out all progressives have been talking about and arguing about and fighting about is race and gender with class suspiciously suspiciously absent.
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>>8746166
These are not men.
No gay guy would fuck a female on testosterone absolutely disgusting.
Yeah I am a gay white male but I don't identify as a queer, or have anything in common with dykes and gender benders.
I LIKE MEN AND MEN ONLY

Oh and also transborgs I voted for Trump and am proud of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcFEIW8Ev7s
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>>8747044
You know why you're wrong?
You take any opposition to your identity politics as a brightly coloured tumblr radfem. My type of feminist is Emma, and my type of politics is famous for it's critique of identity politics. Look up post-left anarchism. Tell me again how I'm pro-capitalist idpol, just because I disagree with your identity politics. (I assume nationalism, class reductionist tendencies which implicitly support other hierarchies, and white pride?)
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>>8747051
That's because the movement has been infiltrated and subverted.
The Powers That Be don't want you to question class because it is class that keeps them in power.
They just want you to be distracted and fight with each other about pointless shit while they continue business as usual.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_CHAOS
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>>8747075
>My type of feminist is Emma,
Emma Watson? She's literally the worst kind of feminist - a bullheaded proud misandrist.
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>>8746166
Passing transmen are the best. Only the feminists think lowly of them.

t. gay man
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>>8747077
I question class. I am not the powers that be. I simply question things other than class, how they relate to class, and what other forms of authority exist in my life. No serious attempt at creating a world without domination and exploitation can exist without a universally abolitionist politics.

>>8747082
Goldman you meme.
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>>8747077
That's precisely what I think too. The rich, the upper class, the 0.001% don't want the plebs questioning the system so they've got middle class POCs and poor POCs and middle class whites and poor whites fighting with each other and hating each other and asking which one has the bigger share of scraps that the rich throw them. But all of the fighting about race, both from the right and the left, won't make the status quo change and that's what the rich, the ones actually in charge, really want.
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>>8747077
back to 1999 with you.
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>>8747100


There are many different mechanisms for imposing inequality. Some depend on a centralized apparatus, like the court system. Others can function more informally, like good ol’ boy networks and gender roles.

Some of these mechanisms have been almost completely discredited. Few still believe in the divine right of kings, though for centuries no other basis for society was even thinkable. Others are still so deeply ingrained that we cannot imagine life without them. Who can picture a world without property rights? Yet all of these are social constructs: they are real, but not inevitable. The existence of landlords and CEOs is no more natural, necessary, or beneficial than the existence of emperors.

All of these mechanisms developed together, reinforcing each other. The history of racism, for example, is inextricable from the history of capitalism: neither one is conceivable without colonization, slavery, or the color lines that divided workers and still determine who fills the world’s prisons and shantytowns. Likewise, without the infrastructure of the state and the other hierarchies of our society, individual bigotry could never enforce systemic white supremacy. That a Black President can preside over these structures only stabilizes them: it is the exception that justifies the rule.

To put it another way: as long as there are police, who do you think they will harass? As long as there are prisons, who do you think will fill them? As long as there is poverty, who do you think will be poor? It is naïve to believe we could achieve equality in a society based on hierarchy. You can shuffle the cards, but it’s still the same deck.
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>>8747092
>I question class. I am not the powers that be
If you're anything like modern left in the west than only time you seriously question class is through race filtered lenses that always has the end result of "middle class whites are the devil" and "working class POCs are the angels".

There's no serious discussion about class, especially about class regardless of race which is the only way to discuss it, in the modern leftist movement in the west.
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>>8747118
>To put it another way: as long as there are police, who do you think they will harass? As long as there are prisons, who do you think will fill them?
The poor working class, you fucking traitor to the idea of leftism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J7ri91oVcM
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>>8746172
This. I'm not sure why it's so difficult for a lot of people to understand. I have white privilege, that doesn't make me "privileged" over all black people, because some of them will have class privilege, male privilege, or cis privilege over me. But it means I will never experience the same disadvantages that they do BECAUSE they are black, which isn't radical or revolutionary, it's just common sense.
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>>8747075
That was from socialist alternative you fucking retard.
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>>8746963
>waaaaah
No, I know the real facts.

https://www.amazon.com/Paved-Good-Intentions-Relations-Contemporary/dp/0965638340

Read it. It's slightly dated, but the sections on crime are still applicable. It takes the "racist justice system" claim and rips it to shreds. If you don't read past the first chapter, you'll still be vastly better-informed then you are now.
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>>8747124
I am like others in that I hold some similar ideas with other modern anarchists, we could be and are collectively described as insurrectionists, nihilists, post-leftists (it's not right wing or centrist), "black anarchism" though I think that term just makes me think about black liberation more than overall anarchism, and whatever. I definitely haven't given up my anarcho-communist origins or desires, I've simply readjusted my strategy to better fit what I believe has become a much worse, much more pervasive, much more intrusive system than was previously thought possible. Capitalism has evolved into an even larger monster and so should we.

>>8747134
That's the point you dumb fucking turd oh my god stop listening to the fucking memes and pick up a book. I suggest Aragorn!'s Nihilism, Anarchy, and the 21st century as a good beginners introduction to what nihilist thought even is. From there I'd say to look into Bob Black, crimethinc, stim's beginner educational videos and documentaries, Wolfi Landstreicher, even Debord's got influence, that whole crowd really the whole fucking damn deal just check it out, dip your toes.
Your ideas come from a good place, but your tactics are unintentionally counter-revolutionary and ultimately harmful to the idea of a classless society.

Here's a wonderful youtube channel with many interviews, podcasts, things like that, which you may find useful in understanding current day anarchist thought.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPCQ3dqsYp_QUcYsnEJTf8w/videos
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>>8747054
Trans people also voted for Trump, you dumb sack of shit. Facebook spent the whole election trying to delete/censor trans Trump pages.
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>>8747186
>Your ideas come from a good place, but your tactics are unintentionally counter-revolutionary and ultimately harmful to the idea of a classless society.
How can a society which is hyper aware of race ever be classless or truly free? There is a reason communism makes the point to fight for the unwashed masses where all differences are scrubbed clean and everyone is the same, because traditionalist, monarchist, reactionary and conservative movements in the past and present are the ones that draw neat little boxes and neatly place people in those neat little boxes for categorization and endless sorting on a choke full of artificial differences instead of our own one commonality, our struggle against our one enemy the rich.

You make endless distinctions and categories among the poor sorting ones into poor but x and others into poor but y and you call me counter revolutionary? Do like a good nihilist and jump off a building.
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>>8747231
Awareness allows analysis and eventually abolition of our socially constructed perception of race. "Race" is much, much more complicated than anyone can physically see and we should treat it as such. I mean contextually we should treat it in a way that makes sense for aiding in the destruction of class society and racist social norms, but the end goal is it should be treated as a complex and harmless difference that means nothing and has no implications into the character of a person. This is how you can have a classless society that is also not racist.
>Do like a good nihilist and jump off a building.
Do like a good Marxist and get betrayed by the institutions of authority you fought to protect.
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>>8746166
Serious question, why do ftms always go for the xbox live trailer trash look. Is this the aydien version of thigh high socks and tranny bangs?
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>>8747619
Probably the only look that works for them. They can't really go pic related because

>short
>small head and limbs
>big hips
>tiny waist
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>>8746748
That is not something new, left wingers have been doing that long before you were born.
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>>8747656
True. :(
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>>8747619
Lesbian tomboys present themselves the same way, minus the testosterone injections. Ftms are no different from lesbians mentally.
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>>8746475
I don't know if I was "joking" or just rambling about stuff I don't actually believe in because I hadn't posted a thread in a while.
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>>8746166
I hope so, it's about time AFAB's got a taste of the left.
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Funny thing is those who rant about privilege the most live in colleges which are the most privileged places in the world. Thats why they conveniently tend to ignore differences between financial classes whenever they start playing the victims.
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>>8746883
>No he's not because he doesn't live and doesn't visit the poorest parts of LA (or any other city) and because he won't ever drive shitty car and wear shitty clothing.

Actually that's the exact reason why he's more likely to get pulled over - being black and driving a nice car.
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desu i'm quite shocked women would follow the same sexually deviant ways of gay men, mtf's and whatever else was born with a penis
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>>8748586
So that means all of them are HSTS? And this is AGP?
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>>8746166
One could simply reject Intersectionality for the garbage that it is.
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>>8746796
>privilege isn't real because some white people have it worse than some black people

Don't be dumb. White privilege is a thing because, more often than not, in the western world, someone who is white will on average have things easier than someone who is black. No one ever said that every white person in the world is privileged in comparison to every black person in the world, nor did anyone ever say that there's no such thing as wealth privilege.

What you're arguing is the equivalent of claiming drunk driving isn't bad because some people have driven while drunk and never gotten into an accident. Of course individual situations vary, but as a trend drunk driving makes you more likely to get in an accident, and being white makes you more likely to have an easier life.
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>>8750407
>White privilege is a thing because, more often than not, in the western world, someone who is white will on average have things easier than someone who is black
Pro tip: if you have to put so many fucking qualifiers in front of something to make it sort of true - then it's not a thing.
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>>8750581
2 qualifiers isn't that many. And "in the western world" should be obvious, of course what's privileged and what isn't changes with culture and society, you'd be a fool to say whites are privileged in Zimbabwe, for example. But that has nothing to do with this.

"More often than not" is just insurance. Very few things are absolute or black and white, of course there are many black people with better lives than many white people, it doesn't change the fact that black people in the western world as a whole have more struggles than white people as a whole.
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>>8750598
If you say "A is true for all X" but then I find some X where A isn't true than that means the theory isn't true and you need a new theory not that I need to accept your shitty theory despite its flaws.

This is why we need mandatory logic education in schools ffs. Too many morons in "critical studies" and too few people doing math and logic.
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>>8750598
America isn't western world, it's a cross between Africa and Mexico
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>>8750609
>If you say "A is true for all X" but then I find some X where A isn't true than that means the theory isn't true and you need a new theory not that I need to accept your shitty theory despite its flaws.

No one ever said that though.
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Racial collectivists and identitarians are fucking cancer
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Aiydain
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>>8750669
>>8750598
>>8750407
>>8746908
>>8746166

this is the end result of your pathological obsession race in general and demonizing whites in particular >>8751057

The nazis themselves would be proud at this level of blind hatred and bigotry.

Fuck all intersectionalists and race critical "progressives" to hell.
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>>8751186
How am I demonizing whites? I'm white myself and there's nothing wrong with being white.

Recognizing that white people in the west have privileges that blacks and other groups do not isn't demonization of white people.
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>>8751262
This so much this. The alt-right has spent so much time looking over or cherry picking or even outright editing statistics to try to make groups they don't like look bad, that whenever anyone uses statistics for an honest reason they get defensive.
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>>8751262
It's funny how the most developed countries (aside from the 99% homogenous Japan) are white. It's also funny how they are the highest trust societies. The other funny thing is that they are so racist, and bigoted that they let themselves be flooded with shitskins and slanteyes from all over the world who tell them how bigoted and racist they are even when they get thousands each month in gibs. What's more is that when white flight to the suburbs happens, whites are racist. When gentrification happens, that's racist too. When whites are colorblind, we are racist. When we notice that different races have different behavior patterns, that's racist too. When we dress up in costumes, that's appropriation. When shitskins use electricity, our European holidays, cars, universities, books, we just ignore that because, haha, whites have no culture, amirite?

Perhaps, it's, gasp, different fucking cultures that aren't compatible! We are better separate. Lincoln didn't even want niggers here.
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>>8751262
>white people in the west have privileges that blacks and other groups do not
Yeah like all those quotas, scholarships and the rest of the affirmative action that only whites get.
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>>8748586
Well its either that and we throw out all accounts of dysphoria and neurological intersex conditions or maybe this style is popular among FtMs because it was just what they wore when they were women?

Just saying if we look at this logically it does make quite a bit more sense than some kind of essential and all pervasive lesbian mentality.
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>>8751349
>and we throw out all accounts of dysphoria and neurological intersex conditions
Or we check lesbians for the same neurological states as FtMs.
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>>8751306
I never said whites are inherently racist, or any of those other things. You're just putting words into my mouth and assuming my beliefs.
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>>8751389
You don't think FtMs and lesbians having the same brain structures wouldn't have come up in previously conducted studies?
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>>8751389
They do. Check literally any study on trans neurology, they all control for sexual orientation and hormone therapy.
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>>8751404
>>8751409
Quotes and sources?
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>>8751262
With all the support, scholarships, affirmative action, anti-discrimination laws, etc in place now it's objectively better to be middle class black than middle class white in America.
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