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Kots with guns edition

Transition timelines:
http://helpfultransinfo.tumblr.com/tagged/tc

Bottom surgery info:
http://gendercube.tumblr.com/

Passing guide:
http://ftmguide.rassaku.net/

Old sites, but still great one-stop-shops for FTM information:
http://ftmguide.org/
http://thetransitionalmale.com
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First for foot fetish.
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Anyone got the link to that study about how trans people may have some sort of brain intersexuality or something? I lost it
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>>8741523
LOL, which one? Most neuroimaging studies done on trans people since 2000?
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>>8741278
You guys have any tips on making your face pass pre T? I have a pretty good jawline but it feels like something is fucking me over with passing. Any tips? Any recommended hairstyles?
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I'm flashing back to being suddenly ostracised by my friend group at age 10. They said they were changing and I wasn't. Then they taunted me about it for a while. Still stings yo.
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>>8741938
The ftmguide link in op has good advice on hair, what looks masc with what head shapes and so on.
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>>8741938
* the .org one not the weeb sounding stuff
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I made this post in fit, but I assume you guys know something about this too

I am a GIRL, and I think I am low in testosterone. I have completely lost my libido, and find making decisions about things impossible. I'm tired all the time.

What is the best way to get my T up?

Is there any cream or something I can buy on ebay without a prescription? I need something that will work asap

fyi: i am already fit and have a good diet, so I don't know how much more I can do there.

halp me :<
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>>8741964
You mean no tits or not turning boy crazy?
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well this is it /ftmg/
I'm planning on going into assisted living soon.
After a long bout of schizophrenia fueled depression in which I didn't shower or leave bed for a month or longer including eating minimal, I decided that I need long term help.
>inb4 mentally ill tranny Xd
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Do you think there can be mutual understanding and support between mtfs and ftms? I see a lot of hate across the gender lines on this board. (I'm mtf, for clarity)
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>>8742364
thanks mate. me, my dad, 3 of my uncles, my grandpa, and my great grandmother have schizophrenia, my dad, my mother, my brother, and practically all of my uncles have depression. my father and mother both are living off of disability, same with my grandpa and soon one of my uncles will be too, but its only the afabs that are the social leeches right my dude, they've all secretly got vaginas.
I hope you have a psychotic break from reality and get sent to the hospital against your will thinking that anyone and everyone is trying to kill you at any moment so you don't sleep for 7 days so on the last day you are given sleeping pills which make you have another psychotic break and know that you need more help but you are also dying of fucking boredom in the hospital so you try and claim that your fine and instead almost literally decide that killing your brother is a logical option and the only way out.
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Don't forget to eat healthy and do your exercise! A healthy mind lives in a healthy body. Healthy weight/body is key, so under or over eating is not a option. Having a depression episode? Take a break and maybe treat yoyrself and put on a dumb movie, lots if kuds movies are on Netflix now. Drink lots of water, remember that water fixes basically everything. The more water you drink the better you feel.
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>>8742419
i'm going to peer pressure you into smoking weed you nerd
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>>8742417
>I hope you have a psychotic break from reality and get sent to the hospital against your will thinking that anyone and everyone
OTT much!
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>>8742436
Already smoked weed, it sparks my paranoia issues and makes me delusional. I'd at least try to stay mentally sane, thank you.
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>>8742445
>thinking thats over the top
that's exactly what happened to me buddy
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>>8742225
Just inject it sweetie
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>>8742456
If you wish it on others then how can you say you don't deserve it yourself?
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>>8742517
if your going to be a dick about me being a "parasite to society" because of the mental illness that I cant control Im going to be a dick back to you
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>>8742550
If you're going to say I deserve that, I'm going to say you do. Because you do.
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>>8742308
Take care dude. Will you still be able to post? Cause you're pretty chill.
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>>8742570
Im assuming that the assisted living for "young adults" will have wifi, if not I'll walk down to the closest mcdonalds and post every once in a while. Im thinking they'll do the same thing they did at the hospital and give me privileges or some gay shit like that over time.

>>8742563
thanks mate guess I do, your clearly not wrong.
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>>8742563
You're an asshole. What's wrong with you?
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>>8742638
Most people who are otherwise parasites to society like to pick on the lower parasites because it makes them feel better about their meager existence.

See: Anthony Burch
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>>8742364

found the incel
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I feel so lonely. After being alone for so long I thought I was fine, but now I don't know anymore. I want friends, but I'm not very good at talking to people and everyone seems to get bored of me. I don't even know how to begin with making friends. The only thing I know how to do is be by myself and reaching out to others is hard.
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>>8742680
eventually you'll get used to being alone and join in with the /r9k/ crowd. at least you'll have a bunch of nameless friends with somewhat similar interests.
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>>8742680
>I'm not very good at talking to people and everyone seems to get bored of me
It's not that hard to fix that
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>>8742589
Good luck with your mental illness dude. As a certified depressed piece of shut myself, it's hard as fuck. Please keep us updated.
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>>8742677
Standard female comeback.
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>>8742715
Standard incel comeback
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>>8742715

incel/pilltard status confirmed. Why are you here? thought you people were terrified of the gay
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ITT virgins calling each other virgins
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Why does it seem like truetrans guys are the most sane people of all trans people? It usually goes trutrans guys> trutrans women> agps > trenders > xirs in terms of logic. Are you guys just more red pilled?
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>>8742720
>>8742726
Female statuses confirmed.
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>>8742740
Incel status confirmed

See? We can do this all day
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>>8742729
Shhh, it's therapy for the autistic children.
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>>8742757
You're right, I can't beat a woman when it comes to stubbornness. You win!
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>>8742736
I feel like you're secretly trying to say that Im not trutrans
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>>8742772
>implying men can't beat women out in anything

MtF spotted
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>>8742772

Shouldn't you be tweeting anonymous rape threats or something?
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>>8742777
I haven't been following your conversation senpai, I just posted in the thread. You can calm down there, I have no idea even what you're talking about.
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Not even 50 posts in and this thread's already gone to shit :^(
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>>8742782
>can't spot sarcasm
I guess it's true what they say about ftms and autism.
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>>8742803
>implying most users can on 4chan
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>>8742800
isn't that every thread mate
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>>8742777
>>8742797
:^)
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>>8742796
Pretty disturbing that your idea of a man is this considering you're an ftm.
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>>8742803
>can't spot facetiousness

MtF confirmed
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>>8742841
this just in, 4chan incels are now all men

>>8742822
???
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>>8742841

Nah mate, just the shitty ones
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Celebrities that look ftm but arent
Lots of aging child stars have the ftm look due to boyish facial structure
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>>8742948
How do you know they're not?
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Feels good to be a 6"2 cis male
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>>8743208
post arse
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>>8742948
fuck you ed furlong fuck you

thanks for ruining my first boy crush you burger eating fuck
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>>8742948
Not much of a celebrity but Leafy looks ftm with his feminine face and receding jawline
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>>8743581
I agree
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This guys wants to be MtFtM, you should help them out:
>>8743230
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>>8743581
how the fuck can you have a "receding jawline" Your jaw doesn't recede. Poor boy was unlucky with genetics. But he is still attractive. Leave him alone. </3
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>>8743876
Hi leafy
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>>8743876
Calm down, Leafy. The 14 y/os who want to fuck you aren't going anywhere.
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Wonder if anybody can give me advice on this one.
I'm pre T, desperately trying to pass as a 12 year old metrosexual boy or at least something, but my body is fucking weird.
I'm skinny as fuck but my hip bones are wide. My upper body is the size of a pringles can but I wasn't blessed with non-existent boobs unfortunately. My shoulders are also small as fuck which makes my head look ridiculously large. In addition my legs are way longer than my upper body which makes wearing pants at a normal height impossible.

Should I just stop trying to pass altogether and live my life as a plaid wearing lesbian or is there some kind of advice you could give me, that isn't written in every trans guide ever, because those don't fucking work on me because of my awkward proportions.
Pic isn't me (obviously) but my body looks similiar to her's
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>>8744500
Putting on some muscle will do wonders to masculinize your body.
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>>8744500
>my body looks weird
>describes ideal female body
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>>8744538
Basically impossible bc I'm naturally so skinny and I don't build muscle at all (!!) Believe me I've tried (still trying to be correct). Guess going on T would help but it's still a long way until then...
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>>8744542
Too bad I'm trans. Also if you'd see my face you wouldn't think that anymore believe me.
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>>8744545
Eat more and lift actual weights you fucking snowflake
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>>8744549
Sounds like body issues desu

Which isn't a surprise given where this is coming from
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>>8744563
The only progress I've made over 1 year and about 3 months now lifting (actual) weights is the circumference of my arms. But I see next to no change in my upper body...I'm an egg snowflake without a gym membership
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>>8742225

Maybe look into food that impact estrogen and testosterone. Some foods boost estogen, maybe you're getting too much. Some foods flush out estrogen, some foods boost testosterone.
As a woman, I don't think it's even possible to get low T enough that any ftm treatments will be appropriate.
Why do you want something off ebay without a prescription? This all seems very rash.
If you're really worried, just see a doctor, they can probably prescribe you something that won't fuck you up.

It might not even be T, you could be iron deficient or something too. That's something you want to get checked out, because if you go on an iron supplement without being deficient or taking too much, you can really fuck up. Or hell maybe you're just depressed.
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>>8742308

Well that sucks. Good on you for taking care of yourself though, I hope it all goes well for you.
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>>8744674
>no gym membership
>lifting actual weights
hmmm
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>>8743876
>Poor boy was unlucky with genetics. But he is still attractive. Leave him alone. </3
Yeah, I wouldn't want to bully the guy who bullies people for a living.
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>>8744563
>>8744538
Putting on muscle doesn't magically make people more masculine, that's a perception based on he fact that it's seen as a masculine pursuit.
This is the body of a female powerlifter with a 400lb deadlift.
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>>8744742
Now imagine her with male fat distribution and top surgery/binder
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>>8744742
Powerlifter vs bodybuilder
Strength vs size/visuals
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>>8744742
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2471523/Steroids-turned-man--The-female-bodybuilder-drug-habit-left-penis-facial-hair.html
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>>8744850
But I find her hotter as a woman.
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>>8744927
An ugly woman is still a woman
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>>8744500
Someone post the picture of that skinny freaky looking trans man doing squats
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>>8744590
Yeah yeah just take le psychoanalysis and all your tranny problems will go le away.

Fuck off not-a-psych.
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>>8744850
>male fat distribution
That requires testosterone, which anon isn't on. Recommending lifting to look more masculine to someone who's not on T as if all they have to do is lift heavy and eat big is sending them on a wild goose chase that'll probably just give them dat ass.

>>8744890
>>8744895
>what are steroids?
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>>8744966
that's exactly what i'm fucking afraid of becoming
better stay lesbian lmfao
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>>8745235
thanks for understanding what my fucking problem is
welp i guess it's hopeless, time to sag those pants and wear potato sacks for shirts until i can get that t
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>>8745246
>>8744966
He's orthorexic, as long as you actually fucking eat something once in a while, you'll be fine.
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>>8745256
Yeah..I'm not that light actually it's just that all my body fat is stored in my goddamn ass apparently. Thanks for giving me hope anon.
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>>8741523
Might be one of these

http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/biblio/articles/2005to2009/2006-atypical-gender-development.html
http://www.hawaii.edu/PCSS/biblio/articles/2015to2019/2016-transsexualism.html
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>>8742239
Not turning boy crazy, I guess. And wearing make-up, all that shit. I miss being a kid. It was way easier staying a girl than becoming a woman.
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>20yo
>162cm
>really small hands and general frame
should I even bother with mones at best I would look like a preteen boy forever
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>>8745484
I have small hands and is 152cm and I am still gonna do it so yes. I have cis male friends who are 165cm. My brother is 167cm. You'll be fine.
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>>8745530
I meant 157cm idk why I wrote 152
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>>8745530
>Shorter than Woody Allen and Jason Alexander
Ugg. Anyone got manlet timelines? Seems like most passable guys are at least 1.70
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>>8745625
>>8745558
>>8745530
>>8745484
>measuring human height in centimetres
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>>8744674
You using dumbells? Try looking up exercises that can help hone your chest, back, and shoulders. You might just be focusing on a single muscle group and not anything else.
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>>8745746
Special needs department is down the hall
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>>8744698
You do realize that buying your own set of weights in exchange for money is a possibility, right?
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Honest question, is the phaloplsty the preferred method or can the clit just be grown to giant proportions and then "cleaned up"?

It seems like keeping the second method would be most functional.
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>>8741278
hey f-team, I'm wondering how fast and noticeable the effects of T are when you start it.

I have zero T naturally, doc prescribed a topical compound for mood/ energy, but I don't feel anything when using it. It's only been ~5 days but I thought it was supposed to be fast.

Bonus question: do you think Sega will revive Ristar now that people like Sonic Mania?
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Does anyone here use a weighted blanket?
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>>8746353

The second method basically describes metoidioplasty, but clit growth isn't significant enough to result in more than a micropenis, and penetration generally isn't possible as far as I've heard.
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>>8745746
I don't live in America.
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>>8742177
The problem I have with his hairstyle suggestions is that they seem incredible high-maintenance. Like if I got a haircut like that, it would take 2-3 weeks TOPS before I would need another one. I get a near-buzz because that actually lasts me 6 weeks before it's in my eyes. I know it doesn't look great at the start, but I can't fucking afford to get my hair cut more often than that. I have a pair of my own clippers and I can stretch a cut to 7 weeks by putting a 1" comb on them and just going over my whole head. (Wrecks any real shaping, but it keeps it manageable for one more week.) I'm not confident doing much else.

I don't know what kind of money this kind of guy has that he can get a trendy cut that's basically already almost in his eyes - at a salon! - and not consider that money burnt.

Also, although I think it looks terrible, I DO get "he"d more when it's short, and my face isn't angular at all. So I don't know about this.

>>8742225
I wouldn't leap straight to assuming it's T. Like the other dude said, it's probably more likely it's iron or something. Tell your doctor about it and ask for a full blood workup.
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So like would y'all be willing to date someone who's kinda a chaser if they're only a chaser because because after growing up with a dad that was an abusive homophobic piece of shit they're now scared of and uncomfortable around other cis men?

J-just asking for a friend
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>>8742436
Weed is awful. I honestly don't understand why people like that shit.

I was in a lot of pain after my hysto because I had a cold and kept coughing and putting pressure on my stitches. Tylenol wasn't doing it, so my roomie gave me weed. It "worked" in that it helped me deal with the pain, but I also hallucinated green ooze pouring out of my incision, the wall tasting like camoflauge, people outside yelling in lemon Pledge furniture cleaner and I felt like I was inside of something very small.

It was really quite unpleasant.
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>>8746631
>being this lazy

cis men get their hair cut every 2 weeks.
if you want to pass then that is what you need to do.
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>>8746652
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>>8746660
Maybe black cis men do that, but not white dudes.
>>8746652
I miss when weed made me feel that way.
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>>8746660

Not that anon, but all I've ever known is metalheads and nerds so this is news to me. The thought of a man going to such lengths to maintain his hair sounds pretty gay desu. Which is funny considering it's the chads and normies doing it.
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>>8742715
>standard female comeback
>using a term invented by autistic men
Is there a word for this kind of thing? Where people constantly "call out" behaviour in trans people that's actually perfectly normal for cis people, but they've just convinced themselves it's odd because TRANNIES? I feel like there must be a term, but it's not coming to mind.

>>8744500
Her shoulders don't seem that small? Relative to her hips, I mean.

idk, I'm tragically pear-shaped. I go dark on the bottom, light with structure on the top. (Like, never wear a t-shirt, it drapes on your shoulders too much.) If you're young enough to wear your pants low on your hips, do it. You don't want the mom jeans look, it will make it really obvious how wide your hips are.

>>8744674
Go to /fit/, your diet is probably wrong for muscle gain.
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>>8746670
>not white dudes
I'm a white dude and I get my hair cut every 2 weeks.
Your argument is invalid.
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>>8746660
>every 2 weeks

Maybe a metro
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>>8746716
Fine, not white cis dudes.

I say this as a white cis(femboy on hrt but ya kno, cis) dude.
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>>8746732
White cis males get their hair cut every 2 weeks.
Everyone knows that.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/2be387/men_how_often_do_you_get_a_haircut/

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/08/fashion/mens-style/how-long-should-a-man-go-between-haircuts.html
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>>8746749
>reddit
>jew york times fashion

As I said, maybe a metro. Not a man.
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>>8746660
>lazy
I wrote two paragraphs about it being a MONEY issue anon, are you illiterate?

Also, no they fucking don't. I don't know a single cis man who gets his hair cut more than every two months. I probably get more haircuts than any guy I know, and it's because it grows so fucking fast.
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>>8746749
Plenty of people in that thread said they wait longer than 2 weeks, and that's people self reporting when they get their hair cut and like another poster said:
>ny times
>reddit
I promise you've I've been a dude and hung out with dudes for over two decades now, I promise promise you dudes don't get their hair cut that often unless they're black or full of themselves.
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>>8746766
you're delusional
enjoy looking unkempt
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>>8746783
Maybe if you weren't so LAZY you would have more MONEY
Adult men get their hair cut every 2 weeks.
Little boys whine and complain until their mommy makes them.
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>>8746398
Feeling any affects of T takes 6-9 months, so do not, miss a day of T because you can kiss that buildup, goodbye.
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hey y'all, I don't think I'll be posting for awhile. I'm getting kicked out of my senpai's house soon probably because they don't agree with this trans stuff and I'll be losing my insurance and probably my access to test. Also don't really know where I'll be sleeping, and I don't really have enough money to live on my own nor a job good enough to make it while also ever being able to afford top surgery, so I think I'll just drop out instead of suffering. One will end up with my suicide eventually anyways, hopefully this one will be quicker, might even be gone by the end of the month, we'll see I guess. I hope everyone else has a good life though, I just wasn't meant to have one apparently.
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How do I get over internalized transphobia or whatever
I want to be male but I'd rather die than be ftm that's fucking gross
I love tomboys but being one doesn't cut it for me

>>8742948
skrillex
>165cm manlet
>round face
>dyke haircut
>acne scars

>>8745995
If he doesn't have gym access it's probably because of money

>>8746749
>tfw cut your hair once a year

>>8746783
Can't you learn to cut your own hair, some people do that
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>>8746811
>>8746819
>ftms seriously think reddit and the new york times speak for men

Oh lord, you have a lot to learn.
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>>8746660
I'm a cis male and that is not true at all.
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>>8746850
where do you live negguh?

>>8746819
I've never known a man to get a haircoo any more than once a month. hair grows at ~1/2" per month. any more than that is just insecurity that your hair is making you look like a girl, which it's not.
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>>8746862
I am having a hard time getting over internalized transphobia as well, btu i am trying my best. I just try to think like, isn't it kinda manly that I have to fight and work hard to one day be reconized as a man? and that I won't give up? idk man. I just think about stupid stuff like that and that I'd be much happier if I did transition. and Splatoon is a good game.
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>>8746749
my brother cuts his hair like 5 times a year. but ok.
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>>8746864
the reddit link is literally a poll where they ask men how often they get their haircut.
the consesus? every 2 weeks

just because you're a moron, doesn't mean facts don't exist.
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>>8746874
You probably don't have a job and so you don't care if you look homeless.
Fact: Men with jobs get their hair cut every 2 weeks.
This is how it has always been.
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>>8746915
I was talking about men.
Men with jobs.
Not children.
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>>8746930
But that's not true. Stop spreading misinformation, anon.
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>>8746956
It is true.
The polls show it.
Hairdressers and barbers confirm it.
And if you actually left the house you would see men with neat trimmed haircuts.
You're in denial because you're a lazy, depressed shut-in who lacks discipline and motivation.
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>>8746975
>>8746930
>>8746916
You realize how utterly feminine it is to appeal to a ""consensus"" from a reddit strawpoll?

Men give not a fuck about what reddit tells them. Peacocks do. You will end up as peacocks and wish you were men.
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>>8746819
I work full-time, anon. I don't make enough money to burn $20+ every two weeks. Or, well, I suppose I could budget for that but I think it's an unreasonable waste of money that I could be spending better somewhere else. I see someone who does that as someone who has enough money to outright throw away. I wasn't raised to spend like that.

>>8746862
Like I said, I have a pair of clippers. I trim it a bit. But I'm not confident outright cutting it all myself. I did it ONCE before going in for surgery, since I figured if I fucked it up nobody was going to see me for six weeks. It was okay, but the back didn't taper down smoothly...I basically had "lines," like when you see lawnmower lines. Not sure how to blend it properly to avoid that.

>>8746941
MEN WIF JEEEERBS.
Okay, you're really proud of whatever white-collar job you have. We get it.
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>>8746880
I live in South Dakota
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>>8746986
>utterly feminine

If you're trying to shame me by calling me feminine for referring to a poll, then you're ridiculous.
I don't see femininity as a bad thing.

Men get their haircut every 2 weeks.
Peacocks don't have hair, they have feathers.

>>8746995
I'm sorry you're poor and incompetent at trying to cut your own hair.
Maybe if you didn't look homeless you could get a better job.
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>>8747013
>if you're trying to shame a man by calling it feminine, you're just a silly goose! Peacocks don't have feathers heee heee

This is exactly what a metrosexual says.

If you want the nu-male look, go ahead, I'm not stopping you. Just be warned you'll get snickers from men who give considerably less of a fuck.
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I'm the new trip.

How is everyone doing today? I drank some whisky before noon and slept till 3pm.
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>>8747025
Fuck, why didn't that work?
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>>8746941
My brother is 21 and has a job.
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>>8747022
Don't bother m8, ftms know about as much about being men as a man who doesn't socialize with other men and spends too much time on the internet do

In other words: of course he acts like a nu-male. The ftm experience is like the perfect way to mold a dude into a nu-male. Their whole lives they've been raised to be the guy women love to be friends with but would hate to date.
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>>8746840
you dumbfuck T effects are instantaneous which is why you can't be on T and fuck a pregnant woman. if you touch her it's instant abortion in early term, in late term it could screw up their development and make the baby ftm.
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>>8746850

I don't know what to tell you other than I really hope you pull through, man.
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>>8747129
No it's okay I've always wanted to die, just maybe I'll have enough motivation to do it finally soon.
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>>8747004
ever think about moving? living anywhere but a big or progressive city as a tranny can make everything look hopeless. it's hard to feel like you'll ever get out especially at the early stages. but you go somewhere like portland, san fran, chicago and you can access tons of resources not just for HRT but for shelter and work and therapy and socializing.

but dude... you don't want to die. you just don't want to live your current life. you want something, and death just guarantees you're never gon get it. may as well go all out, see where that gets you, and hold on to suicide as a way out later. you have nothing to fear from life if you have that option, so live as if you don't need it.
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>>8747013
I don't look homeless. I already stated I cut my hair more often than the cis guys I know. I KNOW that if I get shaggy I actually won't pass, which - AGAIN - is why I find the suggested "trendy shag" in-your-eyes look a strange one to recommend to FtMs. What kind of job do you have where you only need the reading comprehension of a ten-year-old?

>>8747064
>pretending it's not usually cis guys trolling our gen this hard
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>>8746902
>I just think about stupid stuff like that and that I'd be much happier if I did transition.
The problem is I don't see myself being happier from transition at all when I'm like that
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>>8747235
>cis guys
>/tttt/

you mean mtfs
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>>8747241
Cis male mtftms like myself
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>>8746850
You'll be fine. I hope I'll meet you one day.
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>>8747359
>mtftms
not him but what m8
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>>8747359
Ur a cute. Post boiboobs pls.
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>>8747377
I was an mtf, hormones for 5 years, now I'm going back to being a guy
>>8747379
Blue board
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>>8747411

5 years? Wow. What made you go back?
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>>8747417
Work, dating, being normal

Went from being broken up with by someone who couldn't even gender me for the first year and no job to 100k a year and a straight gf in like two weeks a hair cut, and dropping my voice a little
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>>8747432
Does she know you are trans or think you have some unitnentional gyno?
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>>8747411
do you prefer being male? Do you feel male? What made you go to female in the first place?
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>>8747359
you look female
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>>8747485
I told her I lived as a girl for a bit
>>8747486
Depends, I get being a male, I can do it very well in all situations. Im a good man

I self insert as female into media and like used to not be able to get that I was different somehow then my gfs, ideally Id be a cis girl but you can't do that
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>>8747486
Also why? Obviously when you latch onto the trans thing and have the issue of being trans there's a lot of drive and focus to do something about it
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>>8747549
Did you pass as a female or not really?
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How long do you need to be on 'mones to grow an even, full beard?

I've been on T 6 months. I grow hair on my chin and sideburns but it's still uneven as shit.
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>>8747781
depends on a person
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>>8747788
I realize that, but I was wondering about the average. (Or just people's anecdotal experience is fine too.)
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>>8747811
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>>8747811
genetics is a big factor

i see some black or middle eastern trans guys rocking a decent beard after barely a years, whereas i've been on t for a couple years, am white as paper and probably have less facial hair than you do
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>>8746649
No.

Because first, baggage. Second, you've absorbed your father's homophobia so you're using an FTM as a loophole because theoretically he doesn't count as a man and shouldn't be disagreeable.
>it's not gay because you're kind of a girl! haHAA
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Why are you all being bitches? Seriously, just cool it.
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>>8747837
>clit enlargement and voice done at 24 months
>at 23 months and 2 weeks
Welp, guess I'm not getting any more of that, then?

I like my voice atm, but it sounds pretty "young." It also doesn't seem to be fully settled, actually, still squeaks occasionally and I can't sing a lot of notes.

Does it sound "older" eventually, or do some of us sound young perpetually? What is it that makes older guys SOUND older besides pitch?
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Is ftm easier than the reverse?

It looks like you just gotta abuse T
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>>8748307
If it still squeaks, stuff is still happening.

Seems pretty obvious you're not done to me, bro.
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>>8747700
Pretty enough to get guys to follow me in the parking lot and tell me what they're were going to do to me, or yell at me in traffic
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Why is it that most people who follow me on instagram are trasboys? I think I have more transboy friends now then female friends now, which I don't mind, in fact I prefer the company of men better, but I'm still unsure what made so many trans guys follow me. I'm an asexual cis female btw. I've never made a post relating to lgbt things once on my page.
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>>8747367
why do you say that
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Sup
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I'm convinced that we're seeing more and more unpassable trans guys who have been on T for a long time because doctors know that they're the type to detransition and give them a lower dose.
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>>8748963
It's always fun to meet people after their adventures
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How accurate do ya'll think is the male filter on faceapp?
Whenever I do it I end up looking like "that guy" but I feel like that might be pretty accurate...sadly. Would be funny if somebody on T for a couple of years would try that with a pre transition picture.
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>>8747852
I wouldn't really call myself homophobic, and if I thought as ftms as "kind of a girl" I probably wouldn't be attracted to them I'm not into girls, I'm entirely fine with being gay and with other gay people, I'm just scared of cis men in every situation, I can't even be friends with them.
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>>8748370
Depends
>T has stronger cosmetic effects
>people are less aware of FtM and how to clock them
but
>FtM awareness is increasing
>surgeries still leave you obviously trans
>T also has stronger effects on cis people, so feminine traits don't stack up on cis men as much as masculine on cis women, so even if you pass you're likely to stand out
>puberty starts earlier for females so average FtM has more time to gather female traits

I think they're easier socially but kinda even physically
Generally MtF transition is high risk high reward while FtM is low risk low reward
When MtF transition goes really well she is indistinguishable from normal cis women even naked, when FtM transition goes really well he'll still look trans, he just hides it better than the average FtM transition
>>8749453
>people detransition because they're not passable enough and don't want to look like trenders

>>8750030
It only gives me ugly skin
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>>8750557
Also there are obviously people who completely lost the genetic lottery on both sides, the whole "FtM" are guaranteed to pass thing is a meme
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>>8750143
You say you'rw fine with other gay people but not with cis men. So only lesbians?
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>>8750591
I think he says he's fine with being gay and men being gay in general, but he's scared of men as a whole (which naturally includes gay men, but also has nothing to do with them being gay)


I have the same thing with MtFs and cis women and it's more about my experience with both groups and socialization than seeing MtFs as men that look like girls
I'm also fine with some ciswomen that had primarily male peer groups growing up but it's impossible to tell them apart from regular women without getting to know them while transgenders are more of a group
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>>8750557
>>8750562
i dont think body matters as much on males though

i saw a friend on facebook getting catcalled for posting a shirtless selfie, his hips are wide and shoulders narrow and he has slight gyno/boobs and a gut, but they like his face (hes balding prematurely too)

and "pretty boys" and "fem face males'' are a thing, theyre treated the same as any other.

and even being small like Bieber doesn't stop his success

thats why i said mtfs seem to have it harder. a tall masc body is ideal on ftms but males get away with not-masc bodies every day, females dont often have masc bodies except chloe grace moretz (even then she has a normal boyfriend)
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>>8752476
Listen I wouldn't worry about it, no one cares I have hips or breasts,for sex the genitals might be a deal breaker, but male bodies no one cares about

The worst I've ever got were guys feeling them up occasionally and that was mostly pre estrogen
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has anyone here had phallo? i'm just curious about where to go and cost vs results.
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>>8752500
Look up the,botch phallo case,on tumblr where the,ghy had,shit,mingling,with his phallo,surgery 26,
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>>8752518
correctional surgeries
he wished he didnt get it thry cant do it rifht
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>>8752518
>>8752524
link?
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>>8752476
>>8752476
>i dont think body matters as much on males though
Ok first males != transmen
People won't treat you the same as any other male if your looks leads them to believe you are female pretending to be one

Pretty boys and fem faced boys usually look undeniably male body wise and more importantly have a dick to prove it

If you don't care about being stealth then I guess shit like surgery scars doesn't matter but most people do


Also it's still possible for men to look weird enough for it to be a social problem (phelps isn't at that point yet)

>females dont often have masc bodies
Females have masc bodies much more commonly than males do feminine ones (which is basically never) which was one of my original points in previous post
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>>8752734
Idk what you're talking about, not having a penis is your only issue, and that only comes up while dating.

Obviously manhood is about competition and you aren't going to get as much respect when you're 5'3 but that still doesn't mean you aren't a guy
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>>8752734
Sorry
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how i cope with customers misgendering me
it hurt me feelings
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>>8744966
she is cis dumbass. no trans person could possibly be as hot as lena
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>>8754040

You're a man, you don't get to have feelings.
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>>8754040
T or voice train until you get T. I never found anything to be as effective at stopping that as just having a deeper voice.
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Hey guys. I ordered a freetom packer a whIle ago, it was already made and everything. Its been like two or so weeks now and hasn't shipped. Anyone else have this issue?
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I was supposed to have a date but the person I was going to meet ghosted me. I was so excited, too. It was the first time in while I put myself out there.
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>>8752572
Maybe he means this?
http://transheadcanonoftheday.tumblr.com/post/157370528145/case-information-enter-case-number

There's more posts about it in the notes.
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As a mtf are there any discords or groups I can join to talk and chill with you guys which aren't overwhelmed by mtfs?
Most trans discords seem to be either open to everybody and 99% mtfs or closed and for ftms only.
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>>8754724
There's a reason for that
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>>8754874
Are we really all that bad?? : c
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>>8747432
100k? What do you do?
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>>8754968
It's a prostitute
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>>8754934
Not that guy, but take a look at this board: 50%+ of the threads are created by MtFs, 99% of those are pointless cancer. I was struggling not to have a low opinion of MtFs BEFORE coming here, now I just hide most threads the second I figure out they were started by/for trans women. I don't even want to deal with figuring out if the thread's worth anything or not, I just don't bother.

The only nice thing I have to say here is that at least you're better than Tumblr MtFs. They're even worse.
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Quick review of the Alec binder from the Discriminant:

This bitch stands up on its own. The binding material goes all round which is fucking weird, I don't even know what it is because the labels are all in Chinese. And there's barely any give in it whatsoever, breathing would not move it. It feels like a bungee cord for resistance training or something. I got a medium based on my gc2b sizing and couldn't put it on. Heard snapping sounds as I tried to wrench it back off from where it got stuck round my shoulders.

Bad.
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>>8746353
I f*cking WISH testosterone was able to do that! But no, you'll only get a micro-dick that is too small for most things. But a lot of trans guys still prefer it since it's their own biological genitalia that's being used and it IS possible to put the pee-tube in it so you can piss standing up. Unfortunately "giant clit growth" is just impossible to achieve, it's just a Hentai fantasy for now.
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>>8754605
Also saw a guy on Tumblr who had phallo recently and shortly after at least one third of it got necrotic and fell off... I feel like many FtM's are going on about how good phallo procedures are these days and how you should totally get it done, but then I see shit like that and just... ugh. Also read that phallo still has the biggest complication rate of any gender-reassignment surgery, can't rember the exact number, but it was something like 50%. Off course, some could be minor, but necrosis and fistula were pretty common.
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>>8755854
Jeeze, that looks and sounds terrible! Luckily I only have like a smallish B-cup my self and can use a cheap mesh binder from Aliexpress. Very comfy and lets my skin get some air! My chest hurts and I'm sweating from just looking at that thing you've got there....
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>>8755854
Me again>>8756270
Just a tip when buying Chinese binders: Always use the size chart, forget everything you previously know about your size. And if you're unsure about your size, go up, not down!
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Do any of you have a reelmagik soft?

I got the 3" and I'm wondering how natural it would feel to someone else if they were to elbow me or sit on my lap or something.
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>>8756361
I don't, but I've read some reviews on it and from what I can gather, it should feel pretty realistic. Obviously it doesn't have "orbs" in the balls, but I don't think that's something anyone would notice just from a casual/accidental touch.
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>>8756371
I'm just worried if someone actually puts pressure on it, more than a light brush, it'll feel weird..
Is there a way to like test this out with just myself?
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>>8756379
Hard to know the answer to that...but I think you shouldn't be overly worried about it. If someone bumps in to you in that area they'll probably be more worried about if it hurt you then what it felt like.
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>>8756386
Pressure as in like, if they were to put their leg on that area for some reason or idk, if I was laying on someone face down? Don't really know how it'd happen but it could
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>>8756270
Just ordered my self this for the winter. Fingers crossed it will do the job well enough and be comfy... looks comfy, at least. And no annoying hooks on the sides, gotta love that.
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>>8756386
>>8756446
>>8756371
I've had a msm guy grope me through pants/underwear wearing the mr. limpy and his review was that if he hadn't known what was up and assuming he wasn't going all in with the squeeze it felt pretty real. Y'all are overthinking it if it's just for the purpose of other people not clocking you based on non-purposeful touches.
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>>8754934
Most of the threads I've seen by mtfs here are over the top or downright creepy. Like the cheating anon, for example. And let's not forget all the fetishy agp threads and threads bitching about inane shit like finger length. I would honestly rather hang out with a reddit hon than half the people on this board.
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>>8756553
More worried about a person or two who know I'm ftm trying to see if I have a "real dick" or not and don't want them to think it's just a toy in my pants.
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Packers make me anxious, even in boxer briefs I think it's gonna fall out or shift and look stupid. The feeling of having an artificial dick on me because I don't have one sucks. I always think about how the concept would seem to non trans people
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Hey I'm a gay guy in the early stages of dating a trans man.
I love to suck dick, but I know that many pre-op trans men don't like their genitals messed with.
What is the consensus on clit sucking as long as we make it clear I won't touch the vagina?
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Pre T here and starting college in a couple of days. Looking for some advice to help me pass (going to try stealth), main problem at the moment is with my voice as its usually what gives me away. Any tips would be much appreciated, thanks.
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>>8756836

I can't speak for other guys, but my clit is really sensitive and I don't really like it sucked directly.
I prefer it if you lick the lips and maybe put a finger in my vagina and stimulate the roof of my vagina (the G spot) which is kind of the root of my clit, or the inside of my clit.
This makes me cum pretty quick.
I mean you can occasionally suck and lick the clit but don't make it your focus.
Try to stimulate it via other tissue.
I also love vibrating toys.
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>>8756349
Didn't realise it was a Chinese binder, it's a US based retailer that insists quality. Bastards.
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>>8756836
I would probably ask him, it varies so much.
While being trans has made me celibate by choice pretty much (though I'd love to manually or orally please a partner), other ftms are about the opposite and have no problems using their genitals. Definitely ask him.
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>>8757031
Yeah, I checked out the site you bought it from... those binders are def identical to ones you can buy on Aliexpress and they are very much made in China and runs very small in the sizes.
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>>8756964
>Pre T
>stealth
best advice is to start T
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>>8757275
Can't yet unfortunately, still on the waiting list for it.
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Just got my blood drawn today to check my T and E levels. Almost passed out. Was only mildly nervous, but I watched the phlebotomist fill up the vials and started feeling cold.

Well on my way to getting mones. I'm looking forward to it. If I'm lucky that'll happen before September ends.
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>>8756782
That's fair.

>>8756836
The fuze dildo upthread can in combination with a harness be used for blowjobs.
It's a good toy, would recommend. I've the velvet.
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>>8756782
Update to this, I spooned with someone and they pressed their ass into me more than a couple times, I'm a little worried what it felt like to them... I'm worried it just felt like a stress ball shoved down my pants help pls
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getting high then getting scared is very unfun
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>>8759034

Boo!
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I need to hear some experiences from fellow bros:

Is anyone else hesitating getting on T? Or did you hesitate before getting on T? Did you become more sure or unsure about transition after you started T?

I'm really unsure about starting hormonal treatment because I'm worried about all the changes and especially reactions from other people. I fear that everyone will focus on how much I have changed and say things like "wow, you're almost like a real man now".

From physical changes the ones that worry me the most are excessive hair growth (back hair and ass hair, I'm fine with getting a beard), balding and higher risk on certain conditions/diseases.

I would like to hear what you felt like when you started T and if it made you more confident or if it had surprising negative effects on your life and body.
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>>8759097
NO
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>>8759132
I have not started T but if it makes you feel any better, being afraid or hesitating is normal, it's a really big change to your life and a lot of people might just wanna stay they way they are because it's more comfortable and changing in such a way will make everyone see you in a different way, it can be scary but for almost everyone it is worth it.

It's ok to be scared, but if you feel that you are unhappy and you need to be on hormones then everything good most definitely outweighs the bad.

I am also kinda spooked to start T because of a lot of maybe unwanted body hair, I am fine with my legs and other places etc but I am also scared of balding, but I feel that T will make me a lot happier in the long run.

Maybe this wasn't what you wanted but I can at least understand how you feel.
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>>8759256
Thanks for the reply, it's nice to hear some thoughts from someone who's on the same boat. I also hope that T will bring more good things and that the changes could be met with joy instead of sadness. That step towards starting T feels intimidating and a leap to the unknown, it is scary at times. Just gotta make sure I'm mentally ready for it and hope for the best results, I think.
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hey high anon here again
i feel like i might be having a heart attack
but i dont know if i should call 911
everythings going by so slowly
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>>8759308
If you feel really bad then maybe call someone or talk to someone close to you.
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>>8756977
>>8757191
>>8758644
Thanks for the tips, dudes!
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I want a dominant transman bf who is a shorty.
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>>8758671
Unless they've fingers coming out their ass or is literally taking your dick out to sit on it you're fine.

>>8759132
I IDd as NB for a long while, and while I initially was hesitant about T I very quickly grew more fond of the thought. I was already leaning towards a more binarical definition of my gender, but starting on T cemented that. I feel much more at ease in the idea of masculinity and a transmasculine transition these days.

My hesitation came mostly from some of the possible effects - balding comes to mind - as I didn't go into it assuming I would ever pass perfectly, perhaps not even intending to do so. What I settled in was that if I grew bald from T, I would've gone bald if I were cismale. Also, there are biofemales with hairloss and staying away from T would never guarantee anything. Finding possible risks and getting hooked up on them is natural, we hate change and if we can find an excuse not to deal with it we will. Even if the option is a slower decay.

For me, the effects have been almost completely positive, even things I didn't expect to matter to me. The only thing I'm feeling so-so about is my masculinized orgasms and in particular the fact that I can't have multiples anymore. In combination with high libido and general dysphoria, it's at times more bothersome than anything.

As for others accepting the change, it was much easier for people to accept my identity when I actually took a medical step. There weren't even any physical changes by the time my mother told me she had begun viewing me as her son.
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question for gay ftms: how do guys react when they find out you have a dick?
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>>8759733
>The only thing I'm feeling so-so about is my masculinized orgasms and in particular the fact that I can't have multiples anymore. In combination with high libido and general dysphoria, it's at times more bothersome than anything.
pls describe
t. mtf
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>ftm
when did you guys notice your mental illness?
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>>8759679
Okay. Pls submit bum, resume and future aspirations in your application.
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>>8759768
You mean don't have a dick?
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Reminder if you have or ever had a septum piercing you are not a true trans ftm.
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>>8759844
Quicker buildup, shorter climax. It's not a huge difference but def. noticeable. There's a much more prominent peak. Getting an orgasm to spread into the rest of my body is more difficult, but I do need less buildup so that's nice.
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>>8759132
Yeah, I'm hesitant and a bit scared.

The way I figure, if I start and don't like it, I can easily stop. I figure within a month I'll know if it's an improvement or a mistake.
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>>8760464
>It's not a huge difference
that's not what i heard from the last ftm to talk about this!
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>>8760499
Well, there's also the larger clit, the increased libido, and the fact that I'm wetter. But I was already a horndog so that's more of a bother than a downright improvement. I'll get back to you when I figure out how to squirt.
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>>8759132
I'm, TERRIFIED of balding! The guys on my mothers side all start to loose their hair in their early 20's and are partially bald in their 30's. On my fathers side they all keep their hair, tho. I have a twin brother who has a thick head of hair and he has my dad's kind of hair. But I have my mom's kind of hair... And I legit have a terrible head shape, the back of my head is so flat and ugly and I hate it, floofing up my hair is my only rescue from feeling like a pin head. I can't handle the thought of loosing that option...
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>>8760745
Just become a hat prisoner
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>>8760745
Isn't the thought of losing hair better than living forever as a girl? I don't get this.
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>>8760748
I can't see my self feeling good about my self while hiding my head under a hat all day long. Crud, how can such a dumb detail "ruin everything", I hate my life...
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>>8760768
It might sound like a dumb reason... but it's something that really bothers me a lot. There's nothing genetically wrong with me, but the condition is called positional plagiocephaly and is usually caused by parents letting their babies sleep too much on their back and it can cause really unaesthetic results... which I have. I just try to present as andro as possible for the time being, and treasure my hair while I try to figure out what to do.
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>>8760828
Your injecting T it's going to happen

It's like a mtf saying she doesn't want tits
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>>8760831
I mean, tits is something mtfs want. Not even most cis men like to bald.
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Just adding, not sure if the "positional plagiocephaly" is the actual cause, but it's the best explanation I've found. Could be a combination of that and crappy genes. And I still sleep best on my back, funnily enough...
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>>8760831
Perhaps I can... start on kind of a low dose and just treasure my hair for a little bit longer before becoming perma-hat.
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>>8760840
Yeah, and if I had a none-retarded head shape, I wouldn't mind balding at all. I wanted to shave my head when I was younger, but had to resist cause I knew I would look fugly as eff in profile.
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I gotta say ftms make the greatest best friends.
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>You will never have a QT ftm who likes to switch but also doesnt use their sexuality as a fetish
>You will never have a qt ftm who wants a genuine gay boi relationship because you live in hodunk town usa

Why even live
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I fucked my female best friend last night lads, how are you doing?

>I kinda regret it but oh well, nothing has changed and I'm chill with that especially since she knew how I feel about myself and is supportive

Have any of you ever fucked your best friend? How did it go?
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>>8760852
Just take finasteride in addition, it stops DHT which is what causes baldness, but doesn't effect normal T.
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>>8761152
Does it actually work? Def something I need to look in to... Anyone have any experience with it?
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>>8760831
>implying all men go bald
Try again you subhuman baldlet
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>>8760913
Feeling good, taking a bubble bath, watching Life of Brian, feeling like a sissy.

But a very good sissy.
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>>8759934
I was about 4 when I realized that other people didn't think I was male. I came to the conclusion that other people were nuts, desu.

>>8760745
I know EXACTLY how you feel, there's a lot of balding in my family too. My actual genetics are terrible for it too, I carry both copies of a gene variant that codes for increased likelihood of balding. And I also have a weird head shape at the back, I hate it. I've already got a tendency toward premature greying. (Although literally no one noticed it at all for like 10 years, it still really upset me because I love my original hair texture and the grey is a different texture. I don't mind the color though, it's a nice silver.) Maybe it's too vain, but it really does bother me that I might bald.

Ultimately though, it's far more important to me to transition. I don't really know what my solution will be if I bald. It's just a bridge I will have to burn when I come to it.
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>>8760913
I threw up on the floor at work last night. As if I wasn't enough of a walking sideshow attraction.
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>>8760828
Fair enough. But it's really nothing to be ashamed of. I have something like that too -- makes my face all irregular. Hated it for the longest time, until I decided not to give a fuck.

At least you're not the guy who's missing his frontal lobe.
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>>8761365
Kind of nice to hear I'm not alone in the fear-of-balding-because-retarded-head-shape situation, thanks for sharing, anon. Perhaps we can... get wigs or something. Or become sikhs and just wear turbans all day!

I don't know what I'll do yet. Now I just present andro, but I guess there will come a time when that just doesn't cut it anymore and I'll have to bite the bullet...
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>>8761785
Yeah at least I'm better of then that guy... I know I'm better of then a lot of people in this world, just have to work a bit harder on really hammering that in to my (flat) head before I'm able to take the leap.
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is it possible to diy hysterectomy? or some other way to stop menstruating and ensure you can never get pregnant? hypothetically of course.
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>>8761805
You mean, other then going on T? Just go to your doctor and get a IUD. Sure, you need to change it once in a while and it hurts like a bitch (for most people who hasn't already had kids) but it'll work. Or you can get one of those little implants in your arm, can't remember what they're called... Anyway, just ask your doc.
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>>8761848
I don't want to go to the doctor. that's the point.
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>>8761805
Don't fuck with internal organs, m8, you're risking a whole lot.

Only thing that comes to mind is heavy radiation.
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>>8761805
So why don't you want to go to the doctor?
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>>8761936
i haven't been since i was 12 and see no reason to start now. medical transition isn't in the cards for me right now, but not being subject to stupid female reproductive anatomy would be an improvement.
mtfs have it easy. they can just cut their junk off.
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>>8761953
Where are you from?
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>>8761152
Yeah, no, DHT is what actually makes the physical transition happen, like hair and clit growth, voice deepening, skin changes, everything but stopping periods.

Only an option a couple of years down the road >>8761173
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>>8761960
murrica
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>>8761964
Why don't you go to the doctor more frequently?
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>>8761953
Drop to unhealthy body fat levels?

Man up and go to the doctor. Enjoy Obama while you can
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>>8761968
because i don't want to...
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>>8761977
Okay...
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>>8746652
What does camo taste like?
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>tfw no men from either side of the family have prominent beards, barely any beard shade even
Guess I'll have to wing it as a twinky/pretty man forever

>>8756270
Are those actually good? They look pretty nice as summer binders/alternative binders for when the main one is too sweaty

>>8760745
Time to shave your head and use a cap 24/7. Probably wouldn't look half bad if you've got the right attitude.
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>>8761805
>diy hysterectomy
Am I being memed right now?
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>>8761805
Self med with T is the only viable option that won't see you dead from internal bleeding.
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>>8760191
B-but my bum is fat. And I already have my masters degree and a steady career.
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>>8760896
>Check Scruff
>FtM guy 1.5 miles from me
>Profile complains about the lack of queer people in the area
>Wants someone to play video games with and talk to in general
>Already dating someone so I don't even want him for sexy time reasons
>He will not respond to me in any way
YEEEEOOOOOOWWWWWWW
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How do you feel about chasers, lads?
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>>8763422
Cis guy here, what do you guys classify as a chaser? Someone who says HEY CAN I FUCK UR CUNT, PRE OP OR POST OP, and shit like that, or generally anyone who actively seeks FtM dudes?
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>>8763453
Anyone who dates FTMs because they're FTM.
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>>8763422
Anyone who wants to fuck my pussy is a definite no. If it's just the fact that I'm ftm it might be ok.
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>>8763384
Post bum
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>>8763453
Yeah, someone specifically out for guy-with-pussy is a chaser to me. I don't CARE in the sense that I don't consider it "wrong" or immoral or "transphobic" to have that specific desire, but I want people to be upfront about it because that's basically a deal-breaker to me. I MIGHT, with the right person, be tentatively open to PIV, but that would require a lot of trust. IME, anything penetrative is risking high dysphoria and is very painful, plus I don't consider myself a bottom.

"Because you're an FtM," I suppose that's technically a "chaser," but people have a variety of reasons for wanting trans partners, so it would depend on the person. Usually I think of the term as mostly applying to people who want trans partners for specifically sexual reasons.

>>8759679
>who is a shorty
>specifying an FtM who is short
This may be the only time in my life I'm not enough of a manlet for someone, because you must want 'em DAMN short.
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>>8761786
If the back of your head is THAT bad, just a thought, but maybe...cosmetic surgery?

There's now "facial masculinization" surgeries available, one of which involves building up your brow bone (e.g. the opposite of brow shaving that MtFs get). Whatever they use for that must be as hard as bone, so it could presumably also be used on the back of your skull to round it out.

I mean, I don't think any such surgery already exists, but the docs who do the kind I mentioned surely could be capable of it. You might contact some, describe your situation and the kind of custom job you want, and see what they say.

The downside is a custom procedure like that (and the amount of material they'd have to use to round your whole head vs. build a fake brow ridge) would be expensive af. But I think it should theoretically be possible.
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Well lads, I'm getting top surgery tomorrow. Stressed out of my fucking mind, but at least I'll be unconscious for the actual event.
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>>8764426
Grats, dude. You'll do fine.

Make sure to be on top of your painkiller regimen after the fact.
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>>8764536
What do they actually give you for pain? I took some extra-strength Tylenol post-hysto, is the pain from top surgery comparable or worse?
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How do I get over being so fucking short? Everyone is taller than me, being this short will look so dumb when I am older.
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>>8764562
Why does it matter? There's little practical benefit in being tall, and many people do not care.

Not to mention, at least in my experience, not caring or being put off about my shortness leads people to perceive me as taller than I am.
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>>8764536
I'm kind of super worried about doing something stupid with my arms and fucking everything up
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>>8764552
I actually don't know. I'm still very early in my transition -- what I do know, from watching videos, is that sometimes they give out opiates and you better stay on top of that shit if you don't want a bad time.

>>8764616
I'm sure you won't. The way I hear it, you won't even want to move for a few weeks after the fact. You'll do fine.
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>>8764228
I'm 6'6'' but a total bottom and the idea of having a really short top as a partner is very appealing to me.

Many years ago I met a cute FtM guy that was like 4'11'' and he took control in the bedroom and it was hot as absolute fuck. I miss him.
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>>8764854
It's a bad idea to hunt for a replacement to repeat a good experience. You are setting yourself up for dissappointment.
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>>8746649
No. I won't dare anyone who perceives me as a girl in some way, as if it doesn't "count."
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>>8764854
that's pretty hot anon

hope you find a short qt to wreck that ass
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One of the things I'm most afraid of regarding transition is the possibility I'm going to turn into an ultra fag. I can see it happening already.

On one hand, it's silly to become a caricature of masculinity. On the other, it may hurt my passing chances, and people treat ultrafags pretty badly where I'm from.

Hell, I've even got the lisp and the singsong voice. It's retarded.
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>>8763026
The mesh binders are pretty good if you have a small chest, but for anything C-cup or over, I'd go with something a bit more heavy duty. I'm a B-cup and they do a well enough job, puts a bit of pressure on the sides of my ribs, so I don't wear them for more then max 10 hours a day (but wearing a binder longer then that shouldn't be recommended anyway)

And ugh, I don't like wearing caps and hats... but if I have to go to the store or something on a saturday and I'm to lazy to fix my hair, I usually put a hat on to hide my head. Just would prefer to not have to do that every time I leave the house.
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>>8764257
I've been looking in to head-shape surgery, but it looks like no surgeons in my country do them. And I just bought a house and top surgery still feels more important to me, so I suspect I won't afford it for many, many years...
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>>8765788
Post head
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What's for new edition?
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>>8765996
Candy
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>>8759132
Ive been on t for 2 years and pissed off i still have a soft, curvy female shape.
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>>8766778

>>8766778

>>8766778
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>>8764700
Yeah, I found out the hard way in the hospital that the morphine drip did nothing at all, so I just had OTC Tylenol. If it's about the same or better than hysto, I should be okay with just that.

>>8765565
...Kinda sounds you're already an ultrafag, desu anon.
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>>8747781
It was about a year and a half before mine started evening out. I need to trim mine up though. It looks like shit right now or I'd attach a picture. I'm about 2 and half years in now.
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>>8748307
I'm at 2 and half years and my voice is still settling. I've only recently been able to sing again without being all over the place as far as my pitch and range.
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