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California Proposes New Law: 1 Year Jail for Wrong Pronouns

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Does /tttt/ support this new law?

The bill, SB 219, was proposed by State Sen. Scott Wiener (D-San Francisco). It includes several other provisions that require a health facility, for example, to honor the gender identity of a patient, meaning that the patient must be admitted to a room that comports with his or her chosen gender; allowed to use whatever bathroom he or she wants to use; and wear whatever clothing or cosmetics he or she decides to wear. It has gone through several amendments.
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>>8735981
Absolutely fucking not. This is insanity.
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>>8735981
Free speech is dea-

>a health facility
Fuck them, bring it on. Consider this revenge for refusing HRT to patients, gatekeeping and generally being vile to trans people.
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they snuck in a provision about elderly care to make it more palatable, but I doubt this will pass or if it does it'll be rightly and immediately challenged for being unconstitutional
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>>8735981
Which clause specifically do you feel is fairly summarized by the description >1 Year Jail for Wrong Pronouns?

Also most criticism of proposed pronoun laws tends to rest on not wanting to be forced to say xe/zhir but there aren't teenaged cis girls in nursing homes so that's not really an issue here.
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>>8735981
The important part:
>willfully and repeatedly fail to use a resident's preferred name or pronouns after being clearly informed
So don't be a dick and you'll be fine. It would be cruel for a long term care worker to continually misgender someone under their care.
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>>8735981
>California Proposes Jail Time for Using the Wrong Pronoun
>law prohibits senior care employees from intentionally and repeatedly misgendering those they care for
sensationalism.avi
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even if i accidentally mistake them for the wrong gender?

not as crazy as it sounded at first, trans have it bad....
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>>8735981
Is Commiefornia trying to compete with canada in terms of retardation?
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>>8736000
It also would allow me to room with a female patient if I am a male and I suddenly claim to be transgender. Also would this apply to prisons?
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>>8736024
No, this is about long term senior care, like nursing homes.

We really need a legal definition to distinguish people who are actually trans from trenders and perverts taking advantage of poorly written gender identity laws yesterday.
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>>8736044
Did it specify ONLY seniors will be covered under the law?
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>>8735981
ahahaha Dr Wiener
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>>8735981
so it's giving transgender seniors less than half of entitlement that religious right currently has
not enough imo but good start
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>>8736048
>hurrdurrdurr I'm too stupid to read the article or even make an attempt to google anything
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>>8736056
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>>8735981
I had a quick look at the actual bill text and it never mentioned jail time, it said it would constitute a misdemeanor, not to mention that this only applies to elderly in care homes and only after repeated refusal.
I knew the article was garbage the moment I saw 'Christian perspective' at the top though. It's sensationalism just like that Canadian one a bit ago.
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>>8736188
The thing is >>8735981 happens to be that crazy pedophile and posting fake news is part of his routine
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>>8736188
At what point does dementia beat whatever mental condition causes trans and make people stop caring whatever pronoun they are called? Like does trans identity persist into dementia, and if so, how far?
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>>8736215
what does that have to do with what that person said?
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>>8735981
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>>8735981
Bomb socal please. This place is a cajcer and I promise you that if you don't cut it off right now it'll spread to the rest of the united states and destroy it.
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>>8735981
Hell to the no! But imagine all the old hons and ayyydens that'd take advantage of this law to ruin people's lives.

it'd be fucking hilarious but also terrible at the same time
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REMOVE

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>>8735981
You might as well kill the trannies since you're going to jail anyway. You wouldn't want to go there and say "I'm here because I misgendered someone" or you'll be a human whetstone.
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>>8736449
>"oh shit, I'm going to jail for a year, I will likely not enjoy this at all"
>"well I guess 25-to-life isn't too much of a step up from a year might as well commit a murder"
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>>8735981
Thats fucking insane, people won't accept you if you hold a fucking gun to their head

But thats what you get in commiefornia
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>>8736456
1 year is a long ass time.
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>>8736499
Not really, especially not compared to decades or potentially your whole life.
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>>8736499
Obviously you're not going to get jailed for a year for misgendering a tranny. You'll end up with a fine or maybe some social service.
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>>8735981
No, for many many reasons.

For one thing I don't think something like this should be a fucking criminal offense in the first place.

Then there's no way in hell this will actually pass.

Then even if it ever passes it will never be enforced.

Then even if it's enforced the guy, and it will be a guy, that gets charged with it will win the legal battle and the public support and we will have been demonized even more.

Don't underestimate how easy it is to demonize us. That Canadian professor borderline singlehandedly changed conversation on trans issues in Canada from extremely positive to on the fence about the whole thing. And we're already the most vulnerable LGBT group by a huge margin and one of the most vulnerable groups in general in North America and the world.
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>>8736501
I went to jail for 2 months, hour 1 I was threatened with rape, theft, violence.
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Yes but the punishment should be execution or reeducation camps after several offenses.
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>>8736507
Did u get laid?
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>>8736527
No too much anxiety, it made me gayer though, I was 80% straight then I jerked it to the idea of a Black dude forcing his way into my mouth.
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>>8736456
>be the prison bitch and shiv sharpener for 1 year and still have a record - life outside virtually ruined - and go back to jail for misgendering a tranny again
>live a comfy life in prison for killing a tranny and fuck the new twinks
Hard decision here, lads.
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>>8736508
I agree. We should execute those who are insensitive to LGBTQIA+ people.
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>>8736508
>>8736568
This. Kill us or die.
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>willfully and repeatedly
>willfully and repeatedly
>willfully and repeatedly
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