how does this image make you feel, /tttt/?

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"radical" "feminism"
http://www.laboriacuboniks.net/
How does this make /pol/ feel?

>>8724751
I wish lesbians would kill at least half our tranny tripfags but they are too busy calling each other a man.

Feels bad.

>>8724751
It makes me feel like I should be drawing right now.
I bought a surface pro 4 a few months ago and I just got it upgraded all the way (the internet here is terrible and I had to travel with a friend out of state just to use the wifi at a hotel to do it) but I haven't really used it that much due to depression and shit. I need to get back to learning digital painting already. Is that one site that has beginning stuff for digital painting still up?

>>8724751
>>8724761

Kinda just proves what we already know, doesn't it? They are mentally ill

>>8724751
did she kill a tranny and bake her into a pie?

>>8724751
>TERFs literally fucking eating people

You don't understand. It's their culture. Their homeland has food shortages, and cannibalism is just part of their heritage. Don't be such a bigot.

>>8724761

What's a TERF? I am not familiar with faggot speak

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>>8724761

Love them, I can't wait to grab a TERF by the ass and rape her right in the pussy while we bathe in tranny blood.

>>8725902
I'm seeing you all over the place

>>8724751
I think if you self identify as a TERF, then there's a good chance you will have a lot of malice towards trannies

Overall I give that pic a fucking retarded/10

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>>8725932

That's because I am all over the place.

>>8724761
This person possesses excellent writing skills and makes some pretty good points, especially about how the advance of technology and science in general is stagnated by the markets and industries and consumers. That said, what a fucking looney.

>>8724761
>>8725979
I love xenofeminism, even if most of it is meaningless wankery. I strongly identify with "If nature is unjust, change nature!".

>>8725881
yes

>>8725940
no one self-identifies as a TERF, brainlet. it's a witch-hunt buzzword made up by the trannies themselves.

>>8726227
Just like no one self-identifies as a racist, they identify as "race realists". They're still racists and "Gender Criticals" are still TERFs.

>>8726227
she does, Ive seen her tumblr

some people do

>>8726227
Oh, right. You're not a neo-Nazi, you're the alt-right.

honestly I don't really mind radfems because I understand a lot of them don't really hate transpeople

But this is why transpeople hate radical feminists, that and the annoying condensation and victim complexes a lot of them seem to have

>>8726264
radfems!=terfs
terfs hate trans people. radfems, like most feminists, are overwhelmingly in favor of trans people.

>>8726264
>radfems don't really hate trans
You must not have met many radfems. They hate us more than tradcons.

>>8726268
It seems like TIRFs are hard to find, it's either tranny hating radical feminism or full retard liberal feminism

>>8726269
most of there criticisms seem to be "inforcing gender roles" I don't think they hate trans people but just the fact that a lot of us are quite feminine

I'm >>8726264

>>8726281
You only need to talk to them for a while to sense the contempt in their words. They use every right wing talking point.

>>8726232
the radical feminist ideology includes all females. that includes trans men, if they wish to align themselves with it. radical feminism is not trans-exclusive by definition. and some people are gender-critical without being radical feminists.

>>8726238
it's satire.

>>8726296
satirical of what?

>>8726296
>the radical feminist ideology includes all females. that includes trans men
lmao
You're in the minority. Look at the wider radfem community outside of your conservative bubble.

>>8726299
she initially drew a "TERF witch" boiling gender trenders in a pot, and now she's drawn that same "TERF witch" baking them into a pie, which is satirical of the way trans activists parrot that radical feminists "literally murder trans women every day" and call them violent.

>>8726300
i don't know what you're trying to say. that the wider radfem community doesn't support trans men, or that they don't see them as female?

>>8726303
The latter. Radical feminism largely supports trans ideology, minus the conservative trans ideologues who try to conflate gender and gender roles.

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>>8726310
gimmie some proofs

>>8726296
Oh yes, calling trans men gender traitors who only transition to get male privilege is so supportive

>>8726310
radical feminists support trans people and their right to transition, but not trans ideology. the idea that someone can identify into being a man or woman goes against the central tenets of radical feminist ideology.

>>8726316
>gender traitors
i've never heard someone refer to a trans man as this. "dysphoric females/women," sure, but i've never heard "gender traitor" seriously.

>>8726314
Nice cat.

Hmm.. I'm not sure how I can prove it. It's kind of like trying to prove that most socialists oppose racism, yeah? You can post quotes from this or that individual but you can't show a clear universal pattern, at least without some sort of an enormous survey.

Maybe I can explain why the two don't conflict instead. Beyond the simplistic mainstream view which often conflates being trans with wanting to adopt a certain set of gender roles there's another view that says transsexuality is first and foremost physical. It's a desire to change your body (and sometimes voice) to be like that of the sex you weren't born as. Society then convinces you that if you have that sort of body you must fulfill a certain set of gender roles or you're a Bad Person. Most trans people end up buying into gender roles for the same reason most cis people do. In that light, then, transsexuality isn't in conflict with gender abolitionism. Gender abolitionism says personalities and social expectations shouldn't be tied to bodies, and here we say a person should be able to have the bodily autonomy to change their body however they like and present as they like. Since gender is constructed and performative there is little harm in letting people choose whatever gender expression they wish as long as they don't further the idea that people with certain bodies ought to choose a certain sort of gender expression (which, I'll grant, is a problem with a lot of mainstream trans narratives). Pronouns are a purely semantic argument and an unproductive one at that. Political classes as determined by reproductive capabilities are real but how we label them is up to us.

>>8726323
>radical feminists support trans people and their right to transition, but not trans ideology. the idea that someone can identify into being a man or woman goes against the central tenets of radical feminist ideology.
I know of two sorts of gender abolitionists: One believes that gender should be abolished in the sense that it should not be a thing anymore, to the extent that this is possible, because gender is innately harmful. The other is gender abolitionist in the sense that one is race abolitionist. The focus is on freedom. They recognize that people value their constructed identities and instead push for the ability to present gender as you wish, free from pressure which tries to tie how you should conduct yourself or identify to your body. The second sort conflicts with conservative trans ideology but not with the view I mentioned in my last post.

I'm not an expert so feel free to correct me if you think I've got something wrong. My impression is that most radfems belong in the second camp.

>>8726377
>The other is gender abolitionist in the sense that one is race abolitionist
this doesn't sound right to me. radical feminists are of the mind that gender is not innate or unchangeable, and that it is defined as "sex roles." that's to say, it's not physically quantifiable in any capacity, and doesn't really exist. race, on the other hand, is observable and real, not imposed upon people through socialization-- like sex, which is also observable.

i've skimmed through the radical feminist and gender critical subreddits (the latter of which mostly being made up of radical feminists) and it seems as if most radfems there are suppportive of trans people transitioning to treat their dysphoria, but they don't conform to their self-professed identities and tend to default to sex-based pronouns and such. even those who do refer to trans men by male pronouns generally concede that they're female, but still "men," and as such have a place in radical feminism.