Chelsea Manning photographed for Vogue

Why does the media always have to take the manliest most non-passing mtf trannies and plaster them everywhere where normal people see it, it gives the public the wrong perception of mtf people... That photo is not even trying to be flattering at all

>>8704609
Nuke It From Orbit

>>8704609
Looks like Daniel Craig desu

>>8704609
The backlash gets closer every day. fml, familia

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>>8704629
Because they are pushing Androgyny, and they have been for many years.
Be happy.
It means all of you trans will be able to go outside now without people throwing beer bottles at your head.

>>8704648
>Because they are pushing Androgyny
Umm OP pic isn't androgynous, it's a hon in a one piece, david bowie was actually attractive, stylish and talented

>>8704609
>proof that once you're in your mid 20s or later, you're guaranteed to be a hon
>even if you're only 5'2"

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>>8704629
she's not the worst tbhon
but you know why, media is filled with leftwing lynchmob warriors who are trying to destroy traditional social norms

>>8704662
You're telling me there was a tranny in playboy in the 80s?
What's the name of her? Does she still passes?
How well did she age? In that pic looks like Trumps wife.

>>8704655
You clearly don't know what androgynous means.
Shut up.

>>8704629
>it gives the public the wrong perception of mtf people
It doesn't tho. Not everyone is a Jazz Jennings and it's deceiving to portray you freaks that way.

>>8704671
chelsea manning is not androgynous, 100% of people would say that is a man without question

>>8704676
it gives parents the wrong idea, when their son comes out as a tranny they think he'll end up looking like the hons that they see on those magazine covers so they don't help him and then maybe he ends up transitioning later and ends up looking like those hons because of that, keeping the hon cycle going

>>8704668
She was also a Bond girl.

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>>8704662
>trying
succeeding
FTFY

>>8704695
Holy shit.
Why no one even talks about this?
That means she's famous right? Does she still look good? And to make things crazier it was ages ago.

>>8704668

Tula

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>>8704702
She's actually quite famous and well known in the trans community, although lately she hasn't been discussed much due to others like Caitlyn taking the spotlight. But I wish she spoke up more about it so we'd have gotten more acceptance and understanding sooner.

There's a big difference between someone who transitioned in their late teens (specifically, she transitioned at 17) and someone who transitions in middle age and beyond. She still looks pretty good for a 60 something.

Pic related: her today

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>>8704691

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>>8704702
Dude, trans is not a new thing.
Just because you're ignorant of the world at large doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

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>>8704720
Holy shit she's a milf.

>tfw I won't look 1/50 of that if I ever get to her age.
This physically hurts me.

>>8704727
>not a new thing
No, but the surgery and hormones before puberty is new and fucking healthy bodies up.

>>8704722
If Noelle looks bad now, imagine how bad she would've looked if she had transitioned a decade later. She was a Chad with all the masc genetics that come with it. She's an example of someone who absolutely needed to transition before puberty. Besides, I think she'll turn out alright once she gets FFS and works on her voice.

>>8704746
Kids shouldn't transition, period.

>>8704739
You'll better than you think, most likely. Trans women don't undergo menopause, so they retain their feminine features longer. And if you pass when you're young, you'll probably pass when you're older.

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>>8704744
>No, but the surgery and hormones before puberty is new

No it's not. Cutting off your balls has been happening for millennia. And female hormones have been available since at least the 1930s

Estrone sulfate was first isolated from the urine of pregnant mares in the late 1930s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premarin

In 1930, Elbe went to Germany for sex reassignment surgery

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lili_Elbe

On September 24, 1951, surgeons at Gentofte Hospital in Copenhagen performed an orchiectomy on Jorgensen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Jorgensen

>>8704843
Cutting your balls off does not count as "transitioning". It's just a fucked up thing to do. And I'm not counting the 1900s. It's relatively new in history of "trannies". Hundreds of years ago they would wear wigs and dress in clothing, now they surgically mutilate themselves.

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>>8704629
Because they just pick the people that fit their preconceived misconception of what trans people are. Hence why Stephoknee, Bradley Manning and other men-in-wigs get constant airtime as "trans advocates".

>>8704752
>Kids shouldn't transition, period.
I should have when I was a kid.

>>8704609
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0w0PBR95p3H

>>8704609
>dat pale skin
>dat awkward smile
>dat bulge
:bite lips:

I think I'm in love :S

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>>8704843
>>8704883
I hate to do this but you are BOTH wrong because ancient transexuals existed and had rudimentary forms of acquiring the hormones they wanted. I'm only familiar with mtfs taking things like pueraria mirifica and forming groups like the Roman Galli, Ftms from what little I've researched there were mostly relegated to getting swole and finding an army to die for.

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>>8704668
yeah an actual trans model, she's Klinefelter
pic now in her 60s

>>8704702
cause media is pushing gnc freaks for views and political agenda, they are not interested
in passing transwomen

>8704720
you gotta realize that photo is retouched as much as Jenner was in Vanity Fair

>>8704843
The Scythians had what was called Enaree's. They actually distilled estrogen from, drumroll, pregnant mares urine, and would chew on an anti-androgenic herb.

>>8705060
>not knowing how to quote a post
newfag detected

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>>8704609
It's amazing how a good photographer + good makeup + photoshop can make your pictures look so much better.

>>8705120
>blue lipstick
>hashtag necklace
Oh Lord Almighty, she's an SJW. Why did Obama let her out again?
Also, she literally looks like a man. Like I can't even tell what HRT did for her.

>>8705120

oh like you've never taken a shitty selfie before

>>8705250
I actually don't take selfies because I can't stand pictures of myself.

>>8704754
>Trans women don't undergo menopause
Wouldn't it be simulated by stopping HRT the same way cis women's natural hormones stop?

>>8706108
Yes it would. You'd have to stay on HRT to avoid menopause.

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>>8704609
amirite

>>8704629
in fairness, Manning is probably the best passing famous trans woman who isn't a child transitioner. Especially since she wasn't on HRT in prison, she'll look fine in a couple years

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>>8706291
>>8704609

It was a common pose in the '50s.
Her bathing suit is from the '50s as well.
I think they were trying to give her some glamour, but they should have put her in Spanx or used a corset or something to give her a waist.
That hog body isn't doing her any favors.
It looks like she ate 2 large, meat-lovers pizzas before the shoot.

>>8704609
ewwww disCUSTing

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>>8704629
Well atleast Chelsea actually did something for the world even in the face of losing everything which your coward ass would probably never do.

And she's passable to boot.

>>8705120
op pic was done by vogue magazine

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>>8705120
>mfw I see THAT

>>8704609
She doesn't look THAT bad. Better than Caithon Jenner for sure. How long has she even been on HRT?

>>8706347
>hog body
it's a male frame, what did you expect?

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>>8704609
Yeahhh xd go gurl
you look so gud hon, slay 'em bitches~ xoxo

Seriously though, I thought her tweets were bad enough. Now we get to see Chelsea's brick body.
>>8704886
Holy fuck, Cara actually says something that makes sense! This is a first.

>>8704609
Hot. Cracked one out. Nice tits. I want her

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>>8704642
>danial craig is a james bond
>chelsea is in vogue
>hon like myself is passing
it's a new world 4ch

>all this hate for Chelsea

She looks very good and is a amazing person, leave her alone

>>8704886
>Bradley
Chelsea, you dumb cunt.

>>8704886
Kill yourself you fucking cunt.

Chelsea Manning has done more than your imbecilic, bullying, psychopathic ass ever has. I'm glad you will never amount to anything, you really are the architect of your own misery.

>>8704886
>Bradley Manning

fuck off and go lock yourself up in a mental ward you schizophrenic asshole

>it's a "why does the person who was in military prison for the past 7 years with mandatory haircuts and shit-tier HRT, and was only released a few months ago, look a bit rough" episode

>>8706490
>Chelsea actually did something for the world
>>8707508
>Chelsea Manning has done more than your imbecilic, bullying, psychopathic ass ever has

uhh, ok? Doesn't change the fact the she's an unpassable hon and another hon to pin up on the news for bleeding heart idiots and conservative nuts to drama over. All the mtf hon puppets tarnish the image of mtfs who want to transition early because every plebeian parent's gonna think mtf=auto-hon and "it's ok for my child to transition at 20+", that's NOT ok! The media is propagating abuse of trans kids, it's unacceptable.

>>8707564
nice try lol, you should still kill yourself

>>8707564
>the only worth a trans woman can possibly have is based on her appearance
you shallow cunts would nitpick the appearance of a trans women who discovered the cure to cancer because it makes your "i wanna be an anime girl" selves "look bad" in your head

>>8707591
Yes, appearance matters to trans kids, it's abusive to trans to make it seem ok to transition later in life so they can be hons, I was gatekept at 12 because of hons like chelsea manning and bruce jenner spreading the wrong image of trans people, these hons are ruining trans kids lives right now but I guess it's not important because you don't see it going on but the trans suicide rate will just keep rising with misinformed parents

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>>8706331
>Manning is probably the best passing famous trans woman who isn't a child transitioner.
Absolutely not true.

>>8707613
Your entire story sounds like a bunch of bullshit. "Gatekeeping" refers to medical blockades which aren't established because of "hons" you idiot, it's because the medical establishment is ideological about this shit. You can't just make older trans women disappear and think it'll suddenly make transphobic doctors and families love us and let us all transition at age 6 or whatever. Your reasoning basically amounts to victim blaming, so shut the fuck up.

>>8707633
cis people get attractive, healthy role models, why does the media think trans people want old crusty hons as their role models? Hons don't represent me or most trans people, hons should stick to their place on susan's

>>8707633
In her defence my dad literally told me it was okay to wait till I'm 40 to "be sure" because "Kellie Maloney did it"

>>8707624
Cox is a gay man, not a trans woman.

>>8707651
>being this shallow
you're gonna have a real hard time when you realise there's more to life than just passing

>>8707651
This. I have basically nothing in common with hons. Anyone who doesn't meet predefined passing and socialization criteria should be gatekept. I mean, these hons have lived as men for decades.

>>8704629
Capitalism.
First of all, manly trannies are out of the norm and eye-catching, which is always good for business. A normal-looking pretty girl is a dime a dozen, people only take notice of the famous ones.

But manly trannies are also pleasing to all demographics (other than actual trannies, but who cares about 0.3% of the population).
In the eyes of supportive people, manly trannies are like puppies with an eye missing, there's a temptation to protect (and be seen doing so, since the pity cred of the subject is proportional to the virtue cred of their protector). It's also non-threatening to cis women (who adore being seen telling ugly girls how beautiful they are), feels counter-culture to angry SJWs, and is unattractive enough to be desexualised for men so they don't have to feel gay.
In the eyes of bigots, it's just juicy confirmation bias and evidence that trannies are deluded degenerates.

By enticing both these groups, they're automatically pitted against each other to create controversy and perpetuate the story.

>>8705120
>>8704609
He looks so much better in his other twitter pics. He seems like hes really enjoying femininity.

>>8704609
>tfw you look like this everytime you crossdress

>>8707624
The term "woman" applies to only to human females, not to niggers.

>>8707613
>I was gatekept at 12 because of hons like chelsea manning and bruce jenner
I swear people come up with stupider and stupider reasons why they were gatekept by the hour

>>8708136
AGP

>>8708243
chelsea manning isn't AGP, shes HSTS

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>>8704629
She passes fine.
Source: I'm not a delusional tranny who analyzes everyone's facial structure or body when I first look at them because I don't subscribe to this internal hierarchy within the trans community that ranks people based on whether they pass or not and I don't desperately wish to be placed higher than others within said hierarchy.

>>8704609
why didn't she wait until she's further in the transition

>>8708627
From the beginning, she's been part of a government op to discredit the legitimacy of trans women and make sure that straight men and lesbians are never attracted to them.

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>hons fighting hons

>>8704609
tbqh with everyone, i would dream to be in a transbian relationship, or even go out on a date with chelsea manning. she is fucking beautiful, gorgeous and stunning! haters and chasers can fuck off btw. we don't need your kind around us.

t. agp transgirl who loves other qt transgirls

>>8704629
Actually a french movie is going out soon, marketed for everyone, in which a son founds his father who he hadn't seen for years and that went mtf in the meantime, and they had the honesty to take a cis women to act in the father's role
I think those magazines want to point out those "new people" who are neither men nor women but something in between more than women that were born boys

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>>8708641
why can't T rans get their shit together?

>>8704662
>destroy traditional social norms
good let them die

>>8704947
>finding an army to die for
LET'S get DOWN to BUSIness
to deFEAT
the HUNS

>>8704722
Jazz is such a cute. Christ.

>>8711473
Holy shit I just realized Mulan is about a ftm

>>8712398

Cross dressing to save your father from certain death does not a ftm make.

>>8711473
You mean
>defeat
>THE HONS

I like chelsea but i feel like whoever did this photo didnt care enough.
Aren't vogue photos usually more touched up?

>>8714404
They might have thought if they didn't leave her enough of a hon they'd be attacked by SJWs for erasing trans struggles

>>8714404
annie leibovitz. the laziest most overrated kike photographer ever.

>>8707624
Laverne doesn't pass.

Jamie Clayton is the only one who passes well and isn't a child transitioner... That's probably why she doesn't get much attention.

>>8714404
They wanted to make sure she looks trans enough. Otherwise people would get confused. Trans people can't look like cis!

>>8717094
She looks better than Manning.

>>8717094
Also Clayton had FFS

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the media is trying to force this meme to create tranny hate so that peopel will bicker over "trivial" issues and not focus on decentralizing power stuctures

also the liberal media has convinced kids that a strong central authority will protect trannies from evil states like south carolina meanwhile trump bans trannies from being in the air force REEE

>>8717121
Could it just be that most trannies are hons nowadays? Back in the 80s and 90s only the young dared to transition, now every middle aged man is doing it because of increased tolerance.

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>>8717137
no its the media trust me.. there have always been hons but now they are forcing them into your face trying to force peopel to accept it and they know that only creates more rage and radicalisation

>>8707624
female nogs look like men

>>8717121

Plot twist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6Hry7zrHmc

>>8717765
hater

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>>8717765

TIL soft dark eyes, rounded facial features, full lips, and curvy wide hips are masculine

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>>8704629

they're confused white cis models are already pretty honly