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Is it true that trans women are just gay men who transition because they want to have sex with straight men?
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The term you're looking for is HSTS
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>>8678948
Mostly. Some supposedly just get off on crossdressing but are straight. Trannies will never admit they are trying to seduce straight men though. Makes gay men look awful, doesn't it? All those lies and deceit...
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>>8678948
It's at least more honest than transitioning for the purpose of using the women's restroom.
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>>8678948
Yes
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>>8678953
This
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>>8678948
Maybe some?

But for the vast majority, no. It's not really about sex, it's about feeling comfortable in your body.

Straight men come into play because a lot of trans women are into men, and gay men aren't exactly attracted to people who look like females
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I'm assexual and transitioning helped me further by killing my balls so no. But there's all kind of people out there...
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>>8679237
>f trans women are into men, and gay men aren't exactly attracted to people who look like females

And straight men aren't attracted females that used to be men, no matter how feminine they look.
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>>8679237
Does it matter if others don't feel comfortable with you trying to enter women's locker rooms and bathrooms? Or only your comfort matters?

>>8679256
Asexual is gay erasure.
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>>8679268
Some are, some aren't- there's gonna be more straight guys that are into (passing) trans women than gay guys though. If it were simply about sex though, I'd have stayed looking like a guy.

>>8679283
Regarding bathrooms/locker rooms, I use whatever I actually look like. When I looked like a guy, I used the men's facilities. I only started using women's facilities since I actually started passing on a more than semi-regular basis.

I don't make a fuss, I don't draw attention. At this point, using the men's restroom would only make people uncomfortable- in the women's restroom, people don't really seem to suspect that I've ever been anything but a woman.
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>>8679298
I sincerely hope Trump passes a law requiring you to use whatever bathroom your sex is on your id card and requiring castration to change sex on an id card. I would be horrified if I had small children and I knew there were men in the locker room. Most trannies do not pass and people are just too polite to say anything, and also don't want a confrontation or (where relevant) a lawsuit.
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>>8678948
The majority have just been ironically cursed by the Spells'r'us wizard for wanting to change their girlfriends.
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>>8679315
lmao your non-existent kids have more chances to be raped by straight men than limp-dicked trannies
statistically, you children have more "chances" to be raped by you.
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>>8679325
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>>8678948
No it's not true only like a fifth of them.
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>>8678948
HSTS trans women, yes that's accurate. AGP trans women however, no. They transition due a female brain and intense body dysphoria
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>>8679506
>female brain

source?
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>>8679520
(1/2)
Kruijver, Frank PM, et al. "Male-to-female transsexuals have female neuron numbers in a limbic nucleus." The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism 85.5 (2000): 2034-2041.

Saraswat, Aruna, Jamie Weinand, and Joshua Safer. "Evidence supporting the biologic nature of gender identity." Endocrine Practice 21.2 (2015): 199-204.

Kranz, Georg S., et al. "Cerebral serotonin transporter asymmetry in females, males and male-to-female transsexuals measured by PET in vivo." Brain Structure and Function 219.1 (2014): 171-183.

Simon, Lajos, et al. "Regional grey matter structure differences between transsexuals and healthy controls—a voxel based morphometry study." PloS one 8.12 (2013): e83947.

Luders, Eileen, et al. "Increased cortical thickness in male-to-female transsexualism." Journal of behavioral and brain science 2.3 (2012): 357.

Zubiaurre-Elorza, Leire, et al. "Cortical thickness in untreated transsexuals." Cerebral Cortex 23.12 (2013): 2855-2862.

Green, Richard, and Robert Young. "Fingerprint asymmetry in male and female transsexuals." Personality and individual differences 29.5 (2000): 933-942.

Bentz, Eva-Katrin, et al. "A common polymorphism of the SRD5A2 gene and transsexualism." Reproductive Sciences 14.7 (2007): 705-709.

Byne, William. "Developmental endocrine influences on gender identity." The Mount Sinai journal of medicine 73.7 (2006).

Schneider, Harald J., Johanna Pickel, and Günter K. Stalla. "Typical female 2nd–4th finger length (2D: 4D) ratios in male-to-female transsexuals—possible implications for prenatal androgen exposure." Psychoneuroendocrinology 31.2 (2006): 265-269.

Savic, Ivanka, Alicia Garcia-Falgueras, and Dick F. Swaab. "4 Sexual differentiation of the human brain in relation to gender identity and sexual orientation." Progress in brain research 186 (2010): 41.
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>>8679548
(2/3) (miscalculated length)

Swaab, Dick F. "Sexual differentiation of the human brain in relation to gender identity and sexual orientation." Functional neurology 24.1 (2009): 17.

Savic, Ivanka, and Stefan Arver. "Sex dimorphism of the brain in male-to-female transsexuals." Cerebral Cortex 21.11 (2011): 2525-2533.

Rametti, Giuseppina, et al. "The microstructure of white matter in male to female transsexuals before cross-sex hormonal treatment. A DTI study." Journal of psychiatric research 45.7 (2011): 949-954.

Bao, Ai-Min, and Dick F. Swaab. "Sex differences in the brain, behavior, and neuropsychiatric disorders." The Neuroscientist 16.5 (2010): 550-565.

Berglund, Hans, et al. "Male-to-female transsexuals show sex-atypical hypothalamus activation when smelling odorous steroids." Cerebral Cortex 18.8 (2008): 1900-1908.

Rametti, Giuseppina, et al. "White matter microstructure in female to male transsexuals before cross-sex hormonal treatment. A diffusion tensor imaging study." Journal of psychiatric research 45.2 (2011): 199-204.

Swaab, Dick F., et al. "Structural and functional sex differences in the human hypothalamus." Hormones and behavior 40.2 (2001): 93-98.

Swaab, D. F. "Sexual differentiation of the human brain: relevance for gender identity, transsexualism and sexual orientation." Gynecological Endocrinology 19.6 (2004): 301-312.

Luders, Eileen, et al. "Regional gray matter variation in male-to-female transsexualism." Neuroimage 46.4 (2009): 904-907.
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>>8679548
Ok so how does this mean they have brains identical to females?
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>>8679552
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Henningsson, Susanne, et al. "Sex steroid-related genes and male-to-female transsexualism." Psychoneuroendocrinology 30.7 (2005): 657-664.

Hare, Lauren, et al. "Androgen receptor repeat length polymorphism associated with male-to-female transsexualism." Biological psychiatry 65.1 (2009): 93-96.

Bao, Ai-Min, and Dick F. Swaab. "Sexual differentiation of the human brain: relation to gender identity, sexual orientation and neuropsychiatric disorders." Frontiers in neuroendocrinology 32.2 (2011): 214-226.

Hines, Melissa. "Gender development and the human brain." Annual review of neuroscience 34 (2011): 69-88.

Garcia-Falgueras, Alicia, and Dick F. Swaab. "A sex difference in the hypothalamic uncinate nucleus: relationship to gender identity." Brain 131.12 (2008): 3132-3146.

Chung, Wilson CJ, Geert J. De Vries, and Dick F. Swaab. "Sexual differentiation of the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis in humans may extend into adulthood." Journal of Neuroscience 22.3 (2002): 1027-1033.

Kruijver, Frank PM, et al. "Male-to-female transsexuals have female neuron numbers in a limbic nucleus." The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism 85.5 (2000): 2034-2041.

It's worth noting that not all of these are specifically neurological, but they are all to do with the physical aspect, and most of them are neurologically based.
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>>8679554
males have brains almost identical to females, btw

but they differ in one or two regions, that's it

when you look at the very few places where they differ, MTF brains look like female brains, not like gay male brains
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>>8679562
Could you link me to the relevant portion of the studies you have linked that indicates that mtf trans and female (cis) brains are identical in function?
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>>8679554
you could try actually googling and reading the studies

but *LE GASP* reading is too much for the toadlet
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>>8679571
Could you please tell me the specific parts of the studies that indicate where they say that mtf trans brains and women's brains are functionally identical and why?
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>>8679580
look up sexually dimorphic nucleus

tl;dr: trannies have the female version of this and it shows up when you dissect their brain after death
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>>8679601
Could you link me a paragraph or a screenshot of the relevant portion of the study?

Also I am interested in function, not just structure.
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>>8679568
Gay men have brains halfway between male and female.
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>>8679520
It's literally the exact opposite of what they're saying, AGPs transitions are solely based in the idea that they're men "dressing up" and that solely """transitioning""" satisfies that need. HSTS are the ones with extreme genital avoidance and inability to contextualize in any male role.
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>>8680421
that's because gay men aren't really men. We tried to tell you guys this a long time ago.

t. /pol/lack
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>>8680433
more like agp and hsts is a meme that needs to die fuck the idiots that invaded /lgbt/ make /lgbt/ great again.
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>>8680444
cringe
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>>8678948
> because they want to have sex with straight men

yeah, and they also want to get to women restrooms because they want to rape women
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>>8680563
No, that's trans lesbians.
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>>8680563
I dont think they want to rape women I just think they derive sexual satisfaction from being perceived as a woman in a woman-only space.

>>8680641
Some HSTS get off on it too.

>>8680444
Oh sweetie
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>>8680438
But think about the bright side, having an androgynous brains means you don't get the negative traits of either sex!
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>>8680444
Seriously, I don't fit in with either of the hsts or agp memes, and I don't understand how other people can either. Who transitions just because they fit in better with the opposite sex? Who transistions just because of a fetish? I don't understand any of it and that's how most Blanchardians explain it.
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