Intersex

>>8662459
I wish I was intersex

Being legitimately both sexes without sounding like a tumblr freak sounds fun.

>>8662494
>I wish I was intersex
>I wish I was a genetic mutant
I want all Americans to leave this board.

>>8662506
There's nothing wrong with being intersex as long as you are healthy

>>8662506
Everyone is a genetic mutant. Just because your mutant powers are not the same as anothers doesnt mean you or they are superior.

>>8662522
Being intersex by definition is not being healthy, it's a literal fucking defect.

>>8662532
>obese Ameriblobs think real world is some jewish comic book

>>8662506
>>8662533

I do consider it a deformity, but I'm not really bothered by that anymore.

>>8662494
At a surface glance, it sounds like it would be ideal... But it really isn't. I was raised female but I identify as male. It's pretty uncomfortable being in any situation where gender comes into play (like gym class, or public restrooms, etc). Sex is hard. Hormones are crazy. Health insurance doesn't always want to cover things like prostate exams when you are legally female.

>>8662522
Generally this is my opinion. A lot of people will think of intersex as a freak or a fetish, but we're just people with extra plumbing.

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I am neurologically Intersex™, my man.

I'm a cis gay guy and have Klinefelter syndrome, so I'm XXY. When I found out I had a very brief period of gender confusion but ultimately knew I was male, if gay. I don't have too many physical symptoms. I've got some gyno and a higher voice but I don't take T

>>8662506
>doesn't want to be a genetic mutant
Fucking normie, get off my board.

>>8662573
>literally having an extra chromosome
Kys my man

>>8662577
What is the appeal to being intersex?

>>8662573
How did you find out? What led you to questioning it in the first place? Do you think being intersex affects your sexuality? Do you tell your partners?

>>8662592
>What is the appeal to being intersex?
Special snowflakism plus pity milking. Seriously, these retards want to be defective human beings because they find it to be unique and cool lmao.

im gat

>>8662599
Eh... I think if they knew more about the problems that intersex people face then the novelty of it would wear thin pretty quickly. Aside from sexually, we function normally though. And most intersex people are indistinguishable from cisgendered people, since corrective surgery is often performed on infants. I lucked out because my parents decided not to have the surgery, so I kept my dick.

>>8662533
A defect doesn't mean unhealthy. Are you stupid?

Some intersex people can get problems from the condition, but if you are intersex and healthy then there is absolutely no problem.

>>8662599
>lmao
Why this pretense? You are a fucking gay man so why do you care about being a functional human at all when you wouldn't have reproduced anyway even with a healthy male body, my half-man/half-woman?

>>8662592
I had this paunch of fat over my groin that would make it almost look like it recedes into my body and i thought it was because of an intersex condition also my cum was clearer than what I thought it should be. I've had surgery to fix the fat deposit which wasn't actually a symptom, but I also requested a semen test and found out I was infertile that way, then took more tests to find out.
Unless they ask about why my voice is a little higher than an average 26 year old I don't really tell anyone, and usually people don't really care. I don't really know if it feminized my brain or whatever, but I think the gay statistics are relatively same

>>8662459
i'm xx+sry with highly reduced virilization, to the extent that my body is obviously female except for my genitals, which are male but smaller and largely nonfunctional. i identify and present as a woman, and i don't usually mention it

i didn't find out until i was 18, so i feel like i narrowly escaped intersex medical hell. a doctor did try to put me on testosterone therapy when i was 13, but it luckily didn't happen

i date men and trans women and i'm a bottom, so it doesn't really affect my sex life much. i guess it precludes me from ever being a top but i've never even wanted to try

>>8662459
I see intersex people as people with a birth defect, but I resent the idea in this thread that it's "oh, it's a birth defect, kill yourself," just because it's somehow inconvenient to have people who don't fit the regular genetic template. We have Gene randomization upon birth for a reason, and the cost is genetic defects. Nothing says intersex people can't do something useful with their life. We're far beyond the chromagnon point in society where we have to be voting people off the island.

I absolutely would date one. I'm interested in an intersex guy right now. He's quite good looking, actually. In b4 "yer a chaser, Harry," I'm an MtF myself and know a chaser when I see one.

I think it depends on how they identify. This is pretty much the same discussion as "Are traps gay," and the answer is "depends."

I'd be kind of upset if my partner hid they were intersex, but mostly if it just indicated they didn't trust me. There's nothing pathological about a birth defect, I'm not going to catch the gay. I mean the straight.

Overall I don't think too much about it. There's a lot more obvious things that disqualify people from a lewd gaze than their medical history.

>>8662631
I mean, even if it does cause some health issues, I don't see it as something to consider with such harshness. It would be like any other health condition; it's not a reflection of them as a person.

>>8662652
Ah, yeah, that makes sense.

>>8662654
What kind of reactions do you generally get from your partners?

>>8662654
Good to know that the docs didn't operate on you. Most intersex people aren't that lucky tbqh.

>>8662685
It probably wasn't evident until puberty, and by then the patient is better able to vocalize a protest. I wasn't operated on because I was a sickly baby (not related to my intersex condition. I was born extremely premature) and my parents were poor.

>>8662631
>being biologically unable to have children isn't unhealthy

>>8662538
>Self loathing german fears the real world is ran by jewish comic writers

Intersex and healthy sounds like obese and healthy to me.

>>8662661
>I'd be kind of upset if my partner hid they were intersex, but mostly if it just indicated they didn't trust me.

I think, considering the reaction that some people have had in just this thread, that being hesitant to admit to being intersex is normal. I mean, the reaction here wasn't instantly accepting, and this is a space specifically for LGBT people. It takes a lot of courage to be open about that kind of thing, and I don't think it would reflect inherently on their trust or mistrust of their partner.

That being said, I think it would be a good idea to tell your partner about being intersex or trans before pursuing a serious or sexual relationship.

>>8662690
>my parents were poor.
Oh, that explains things.
Regardless, doctors should fucking leave intersex people alone (and go cut off their own dicks if they are THAT interested in butchering human anatomy).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34ZmKbe5oG4

>>8662704
>Superman created by (((Jerry Siegel)))
>Captain America created by (((Joe Simon)))
>Batman created by (((Bob Kahn)))
>X-Men and Spiderman created by (((Stan Lieber)))
You're right, comics have nothing to do with jews.

tl;dr. salsa on the image?

>>8662683
a few trans women are put off by my body, not entirely sure why, men generally seen to think it's a plus, makes the sex less gay for them i guess. i'm much more picky about men though, so i've probably just avoided the ones who would get freaked out

>>8662740
>not entirely sure why
Probably because they are jelly of your wide hips and easy mode girl gains.

>>8662696
>>8662708
There are people who have mild intersex conditions and still parent children. And someone's general well-being and value as a person go far beyond their ability to reproduce.

>>8662644
Why this pretense? You are a fucking gay man so why do you care about being a functional human at all when you wouldn't have reproduced anyway even with a healthy male body, my half-man/half-woman?

Exactly, though I think the person here isn't intersex, based on their language. Why are you focusing so much on someone's ability to reproduce in a forum for gays, lesbians, and transgendered people?

>>8662723
>Bob Kahn
Bob Kane, you fuckhead.

>>8662740
You identify and present as female, right? So pretty much not gay, in my opinion. I really don't get the trans women thing though. Odd, you'd think they'd be more accepting.

>>8662752
But I want to be manly...

>>8662752
i don't think this is why

the worst body reaction i've gotten is a trans woman who said "something is... wrong... there" when i got undressed

confused the fuck out of me

>>8662654
>i date men and trans women

Lol. Fucked up

>>8662771
That's... Unfortunate.

>>8662778
Why?

>>8662723
>Its almost like Jews are the superior race or something

>>8662782
I just personally wouldn't date someone who saw me as an AMAB before seeing me as a woman. If you can date me, you can date cis women IMO.

Also, you said "men", but I'm assuming that you wouldn't date trans men?

>>8662763
>Bob Kane, you fuckhead.
Nope, his birth name was Bob Kahn. The fact he changed it later to sound less jewy doesn't make him not a jew.

>>8662788
>drawing shitty pleb comics for children makes you superior
At last I truly see.

>>8662790
i probably wouldn't date you at all, i go for masc types i just don't care what the gender is

i have tried dating both cis women and trans men and it doesn't work for me, mostly because the sex is so much less enjoyable

>>8662790
I haven't said anything about my dating preferences, I'm the OP. But I'd date anyone regardless of their gender identity. I'm currently dating a gay man, but I've dated a trans woman, several cis women, and several gay men. I wouldn't be opposed to dating a trans man though. We could bond over our mutual fragile sense of masculinity. Haha.

>>8662807
We all know that Bill Finger was the man behind the cowl anyway. I think that's still a German or Jewish surname.

>>>>>/pol/

>>8662763
>Why are you focusing so much on someone's ability to reproduce in a forum for gays, lesbians, and transgendered people?
Fucking this.

Because he/she/it is master-baitin', that's all.

>>8662830
He was a Jew you dumb transtard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Kane
>Robert Kahn was born in New York City, New York. His parents, Augusta and Herman Kahn, an engraver, were of Eastern European Jewish descent.
Captcha: STREET DYKE

>>8662771
>there
Were they more specific or did they actually say "there"? What did they mean by this?

>>8662568
Is this a trans thing?

>>8662459
>tfw you first started to hear about this Transgenderism crap, you thought it was about intersex issues only to realize it's something subjectively degenerate where any wackjob can call himself female and claim to have a female brain.

Intersex people should be given leeway into what gender/sex they wanna be due to the condition that they have. I see intersex people as the real transgenders.

>>8662840
she just kinda glared at my lower body while saying it

i asked her what she meant but she just told me to put my clothes back on

to this day i have not figured it out

>>8662807
I bet if you personally made some Aryan race-approved comic it would be on par with Chris Chan's and no one would pay any attention to it.

Meanwhile the "evil" "Kikes" still get rich from the comics you deem shitty. A little jelly, aren't we?

>>8662857
There is no such thing as Aryan comics, the medium itself a jewish creation.

>>8662848
>i asked her what she meant but she just told me to put my clothes back on
That's rude af tbqh.
Too bad you didn't point at his XY chromosome-assembled head and say "something is... wrong... there" to banter back.

>>8662847
I think that both intersex people and transgender people are valid. I identify as intersex male, but I was raised female.

>>8662848
>>8662868
That sounds incredibly awkward. I didn't come out as intersex to any of my previous partners. It's not immediately obvious as long as you aren't admiring my perineum. I did let my current partner know, and it was the first time I experimented with anything vaginally. We're both new to the concept, since he's gay and I never bothered before.

How do families of of intersex treat them if they want to transition? Do they rage like tranny families??

>>8662857
>the point of drawing a book for children isn't to educate them, it's to GET RICH LMAO
Spoken like a true materialist kike without morals or principles.

>>8662844
trans people are commonly neurohormonally intersex to some extent

you can actually readily distinguish pre-hrt trans brains from cis people of the same sex with just a structural mri

the research on this is pretty neat

>>8662881
Mine did. Most of them don't accept me as male.

>>8662863
At least we are finally getting to the point of acknowledging facts. What did Superior Aryans™ produce/create/do again, beside lamenting on their lack of success in Inferior Subhuman Race™-controlled society or pondering successes/creations of Inferior Subhuman Races™?

>>8662892
Whites created high culture. Jews are only capable of creating pulp entertainment, vulgar fart comedies, sitcoms, capeshit, shock humor and porn. They're lowly people who never had an aristocracy and as such they are only capable of creating trash.

>>8662887
I think the research is still out in this area, to some degree. But there are studies which point to this, but it's still new and relatively complex. There's not enough research to definitively say one way or the other with any strong conviction. It's a pretty small sample size.

>>8662892
Just ignore it.

>>8662847
I guess I do have some animosity for trans people, but I wouldn't normally admit to it. Logically I know I shouldn't, but... It doesn't feel great to have my body made a fetish or an ideal while ignoring or belittling the struggles I had to go through as an intersex person. It's medically very difficult, and I had a confusing childhood. My relationship with my family is strained because of it. I wish I had just been born "normal." And saying "I wish I were intersex" is the same as saying "I wish I were trans." It sucks. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

>>8662913
>I wish I were trans
Are there people who are genuine trannyboos? Like not people who want to be an opposite sex, but people who actually want to be a fucking tranny. That sounds like the most retarded thing ever, like wanting to be a quadriplegic.

>>8662883
>Let's call them Kike, I am sure that's how you win an argument

>>8662922
I wasn't arguing. I was calling you a kike, because that's what you are.

>>8662899
sample size for coincidence with "transness" is small, and that concept is ill-defined to start with, but prenatal hormone exposure influencing neuro structure into adulthood & sexual behavioural patterns is well established, and observation in humans is not something to be too skeptical of

>>8662459
>tfw XXY and slightly intersex
Literally all it did was give me boobs at like 11. I'll take it though.

>>8662966
Let mommy see them intersexed boobies, bby.
t. predatory transbian

>>8662696
There's a LOT of people who fall into that category. Including, you know, otherwise perfectly normal cis women. There's a point at which you have to accept that obsessing over fertility isn't productive, and "literally anyone who can't have a child is a freak" is over that line.

>>8662533
>>8662708
How far do you take this? Is someone born without a pinky finger unhealthy for life. Eventually, we'd all be considered unhealthy by some deviation or other. Health is not a pass/fail.

>>8662771
Did you tell her beforehand? Maybe she thought you would have a penis that looked like hers?

>>8662913
I think this is understandable, anon. I think a lot of trans people have never knowingly met an intersex person, and use intersex people as props as much as cis people use us as props.

I definitely went through a period when I was a teenager where I kinda hoped that maybe I had some slight chromosomal intersex condition. This was discussed in another thread (you probably saw it), but I think a lot (most?) of us do. I think it stems mostly from cis people strongly insisting that we're "just crazy," that the physical evidence is against us, etc. I think the frustration with that argument leads a lot of trans people to wish they had something "real" to show to people as proof that our issue is a valid one. I think trans people believe that this would completely flip people's perceptions of us.

As the stories related in this thread prove though, that is absolutely NOT the case at all. I'm honestly quite infuriated to read some of this stuff. I can intellectually understand the issue people take with us, because they can't "see" what our disorder is. I still think they're of low intelligence when they can't get it even when it's repeatedly explained to them, but I get why they refuse to. Your issue has physical evidence! Yet they act like you did something wrong somehow. People are massive cunts.

>>8663563
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>>8662913

Actually, what I came to the thread to ask was if any of you are aware of any kind of consensus amongst intersex people about trans people. I have heard understandable resentment before, mostly about trans people doing pretty icky things like outright passing themselves off as intersex (some older trans people have done that; I think they particularly felt the pressure to prove their gender was somehow "real"), or snagging language from intersex activists. (e.g. I heard "CAMAB/CAFAB" were terms stolen from intersex people and yet used by trans people.) I do think we have some interwoven issues, but they are not all precisely the SAME issues.

>>8662847
See, and this is just the kind of plain stupidity I was talking about above. If you're accepting of the idea that intersex people can choose a gender identity that may differ from their chromosomes or genitals, then you're accepting that gender identity CAN be something that doesn't match your chromosomes or genitals. But you won't accept that in trans people, only in intersex people. Why, shortbus? What mechanism do you have to explain intersex people having a "trans" identity that couldn't possibly apply to non-intersex trans people? Outside of Tumblr trenders who treat low doses of HRT like a body mod (and otherwise usually don't transition), people don't declare themselves trans on a fucking whim - there has to be a strong drive to do it. Where do you think it comes from?

This is exactly why it's just fruitless for trans people to try to use intersex people as props in arguments, anyway. It clearly doesn't work. We're expecting them to make basic leaps of logic that they don't actually make.

>>8662913
The fact that this sounds exactly like a lot of the stories of transpeople but with words switched around lends a lot of credence to the neurosex studies imo.

I don't see why transsexuals and intersexed people can't relate or get along. It's a lifetime of strain and imposed shame either way :\

>>8662459
>There's never much talk about intersex people in LGBT spaces.
Because technically intersex isn't an lgbt thing.

>>8662654
>my body is obviously female except for my genitals
Pix plz k thx

>>8663563
>>8663567
Like I said, I'd never openly admit to having any resent for trans people. I think we do have similar plights, but the way most trans people treat intersex people shows a lack of understanding. It's just... Taking intersex and using it as a political or social bartering chip without full knowledge of our plight. You know? It sucks.

>>8664540
So what group would we belong to?

Just stopping by to say I'm not intersex but intersex people deserve to feel comfortable as whatever gender they want to present

>>8662459
>Is anyone else here intersex?
yes
>What's your experience been?
lonely and isolated because I have less in common with others from a mental perspective
>How does it affect your sex life?
I don't have sex because I know how women think and I know how men think and neither impress me very much. I've definitely tried it both ways and men are slightly better, but women are more desirable and physically satisfying to play with. A woman with the attitude and strength of a man would be nice.
>Did you have corrective surgery at birth?
it was a short time after, like maybe a number of months
>Are you open about it, or is it something you hide?
neither. I neither make efforts to hide it nor display it and express it
>Do you identify as male, female or other?
male and other at this point.
>>8662533
I can't help but consider myself to be superior

>>8662618
please date me

I had the surgery but I have recurring dreams of meeting someone of the opposite gender like myself and just holding hands or something so I don't continue to slowly go insane

>>8665572
Do you think that intersex people should be able to identify publicly as somewhere in between? Like... Gender queer? Or just male/female?

>>8665598
I have a boyfriend, but I'm still open to hand holding.

>>8665634
It's not the same, I'd still be alone

what if I was born intersex with a vestigial vagina hole and nerve endings that was surgically removed but I actually have XL nuts and a big dick and some sort of super stamina sperm that live longer than average sperm

I guess I do have kind of big nipples though

not that that bothers me

>>8665665
Well, the offer still stands.

>>8665673
WHAT IF, THOUGH?

Yeah, I actually have a fairly large penis but I'm pretty lacking in the testicle department. I have a pseudovagina and it's essentially useless.

>>8665703
>I have a pseudovagina and it's essentially useless.
it's fun to play with ;3

>>8665783
True story.

>>8662459
>If you're not intersex, how do you see intersex people?
Either as cis people with a medical anomaly or trans people with a medical basis for their transsexuality. It would depend on them. If they presented and looked androgynous and identified as nonbinary I don't know how I'd see them. I don't tend to see people as nb.

>Would you date one?
Yes. I'm bi.

>Would you consider that relationship gay or straight?
Depends on the individual.

>Would you be upset if you found out your partner hid being intersex?
Probably but not a lot. Less so than if they were stealth trans and hid it.

>I want to know your general thoughts and opinions.
Any other questions?

>>8665942
>Any other questions?

What do you think about comments like
>>8662533
>>8662579
>>8662696

>>8665988
I don't think intersex is by definition unhealthy. It often has medical issues but that's just something to treat, no different from any medical problems. It shouldn't be used to attack intersex people or erase their identities.

>>8666023
What do you think the hostility is about? Just 4chan or do you think that many people feel this way?

>>8666062
Why ask what hostile people think or feel? They think hostile. They feel hostile. You answered the question before you asked it. And anyway who cares what they think or feel, and why do you care what they think or feel?

This is the dumbest modern meme, where evil people still don't care what decent people think or feel, but good people bend over backwards to attribute feelings and thoughts to evil people where there are none.

Not to imply that you're a good person, but you're roleplaying as one fairly accurately with that post. "I wonder what the worthless savage thinks and feels, that poor worthless savage!"

>>8666062
I've no idea. It's bizarre. it looks like the kind of trans hate that comes from /pol/. If it's from actually LGBT people then it's inexplicable and probably rather hypocritical.

>>8666081
Fair enough.

guys ii have to poop really bad but ive been taking darvocet for the last week and cant

I'm intersex, though not the exciting kind, and I didn't find out properly until a few years ago. The first hints that I might be was when I was about 13/14, when I had a bunch of blood tests because I was chronically ill, and the doctors discovered I had "a very high amount of testosterone for a girl", but they assumed it was just a quirk of puberty.

Flash forward six years and I'm in the GIC having blood tests to check my hormone levels to make sure I'm safe to go on testosterone and transition and all that jazz, and they find out I have T levels in line with a cis guy, but everything outside looks normal (very little body hair, really small clit and unassuming labia, etc.). I had some more tests like an ultra sound, and something else I forgot the name of but it's really similar to an ultra sound, and they found out I have testicular or prostate tissue where my ovaries are, which explains why since puberty I was having debilitating periods.

Though since I start my transition, everything has been going pretty normal for an FtM transition. I don't think I had any surgeries at birth, as my parents don't remember anything.

Kinda wish I had a massive clit or something to show for being intersex but whatever.

>>8666132
Intersex periods are living hell. I got my first period at the age of 21 and it makes life miserable. It feels like being stabbed in the stomach, and that if I leave the fetal position my guts will fall out. Plus my vagina is too small to allow for adequate flow, so that cramps up too. It's a goddamn nightmare. I can't use a tampon. And if you think ball sweat is bad, try getting dried period blood off your balls. And there are no little trashcans in the men's bathroom.

>>8666185
Sorry to hear you go through the same thing, but glad I'm not alone. They're absolutely horrid, I have the same issue with having a small vagina, and I generally used to find myself fetal position hugging the toilet because I'd be vomitting every few hours for the first few days.

Thankfully, T stopped that.

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>>8666185
>try getting dried period blood off your balls
thanks for the visual, anon

>>8666185
>my vagina is too small
Would you allow a generous asian man with a smaller than average penis to penetrate your tight vagina?

>>8666216
I've been on light T for a while, but it hasn't stopped them. Yeah, I vomit too. I don't really have much experience with periods and I have no idea what constitutes light or heavy flow. And I have no idea how to make them any less messy. ...Also mine are incredibly irregular. Sometimes it'll be every two weeks, sometimes it'll skip a month, sometimes it lasts two weeks. Doctor says it's normal for periods to be irregular at first... I don't fucking know.

>>8666253
You're welcome. You just have to think about it in passing, I have to live it. Hahaha.

>>8665611
Obviously. They literally ARE something in between or technically both. I don't see why they couldn't just identify as any of those.

>>8666263
I have a boyfriend who is also smaller than average, and there have been a few attempts made... But it's generally too small and too painful for anything larger than a very slim finger. Two is extraordinarily uncomfortable. A penis, even a small one, is excruciating.

>>8666267
>I don't really have much experience with periods

Underage get out reeeeeeeeee

>>8666300
I'm 22, you poag.

>>8666185
>I got my first period at the age of 21

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All this period talk is making my dysphoric.... I wish I was AFAB so bad..... Hopefully science lets me have periods one day.

>>8662919
>>8662913
>And saying "I wish I were intersex" is the same as saying "I wish I were trans." It sucks. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
Being trans does suck and I wish I had a natural body of the other sex, but mentally I don't want to be a cis person of either sex. My body is the problem, not my mind and I'd pick being trans over being cis in mind.

I love my mind as a trans person and in that sense I do wish I am trans. Although that's different from wishing it on someone cis or someone who doesn't want it. So in a way I can understand "I wish I was trans."

Wishing to be intersex is wishing to be a bit closer to being cis and a bit further away from your biological sex. In that way it would be surprising if any trans person didn't wish for it, not that they would want your troubles either. But some of that, confused childhood, medical difficulties, strained family relations, happen to trans people anyway.

>>8666314
>"Periods hurt so bad I can't move!"
>I wish I had periods
What.

>>8666319
I mean, it just seems like wishing you were lame because your legs are tired. Maybe that's an extreme example but. Whatever.

>>8666314
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>>8666341
>it just seems like wishing you were lame because your legs are tired.
I don't see how that analogy works at all.

>>8665560
Either the physical deformities club or the gentlemen's club of genetic disorders.
Your choice.

So unless you want to transition into a man or a woman, or your sexuality permits you into the lgbt club, you don't really belong here.

I mean why would it?
Why would intersex be part of lgbt?

>>8666380

LGBT is a group of people who are genders and sexuality that aren't the norm. Intersex is not the norm, but is related to gender and sex... so.

>>8666380
>>8666391
Yeah this is generally how I see it.

>>8666380
What if an intersex person has sex with another intersex person? I mean that's pretty gay enough to warrant being included into the lgbtffssrsBBQ+ community tbqh.

>>8666380
>Why would intersex be part of lgbt?

Because
United We Stand, Divided We Fall

>>8666375
>I say frowning because people here are complaining that you have to be acting like a Chad 24/7 or you'll get bullied and whatnot

There were two people "complaining." The rest were celebrating.

>but frowning requires almost no effort and is enough to keep people's respect.

I worked hard, I studied hard, I frowned hard, I shot hard, hunted hard, played football hard, stabbed hard, fought hard. I gained 0 respect. I gained a shitload of fear, which I value a lot more then some disgusting piece of shit's respect. But the shit didn't give me any respect. You disease don't value anything with value. You value your cowardice towards god and pedophiles.

You can tell all the "common sense" lies you want. I will warn all humans that you things are always lying.

>>8662844
its psuedoscience trannies believe to make them feel like less of a freak.

>>8666402
lol opps that's where my post went

>>8666391
>LGBT is a group of people who are genders and sexuality that aren't the norm.
That's an open invitation for every fetish to join the club.
After all they're not the norm.
This is how all these tumblrinas got in.

In fact if it were me I'd have considered intersex conditions just slightly within the range of margins that constitute normal people.

>>8666398
Depends on whether they consider it to be gay.
Of course they gotta agree or else it'd be some sort of quantum sexuality

>>8666401
That precious ideologically driven bullshit turned us into a doormat for basically everyone with an agenda.
Because you're too scared to reject someone.
That's "lalala wir schaffen das" logic.
We allowed in millions of non-lgbt fucks on the pretense that your fashion sense and dyed hair could make you queer (it doesn't) resulting in lgbt becoming a minority in its own fucking communities, and now you want to add another letter for the sake of inclusion of a group that for all intents and purposes consists of normal individuals. again.

>>8662690
>>8662720
Historically poor parents were less likely to have their sons circumcised. Black and Hispanic parents still are. Ironic how a worse background ends up being better for the child sometimes.

I have Kleinfelter's, XXY, I never knew until I transitioned and noticed that my hormones worked extremley fast and that before my transition, even after puberty, I had next to no masculine traits.

>>8666497
>Of course they gotta agree or else it'd be some sort of quantum sexuality
this is literally what intersex people are

>>8666497
From the perspective of an intersex person, LGBTetc. is both relatively normal and relatively privileged.

>>8662459

>>is anyone intersex
I have klinefelter syndrome which some people consider to be an intersex condition, and others do not.

>>how does it affect your sex life
my experience has been kinda weird because I look like a very feminine twink(I'm a femboy), but I got big tits, which weirds out a lot of gay dudes. I'm obviously too male like for straight guys, but I have too many female sex characteristics for a lot of gay guys. I always look for bi guys because they tend to like it.

I didn't, because with xxy, you usually don't figure it out until you go through puberty and start growing tits. It took until I was 17 for my doctor to try a karyotype test and find that I got an extra sex chromosome.

>>you open about it?
I try to be open with sexual partners, because I don't want an awkward moment in the bedroom, but other than that, I keep it to myself

>>you identify as male female, or other.
for me, I'm clearly more male than female, but there are a lot of female sex characteristics that it doesn't fully make sense to call myself a male. I just call myself a kinda boy, because I'm almost one, but not totally one.

>>8668130
I agree...

>>8668123
Schrodinger's sexuality; simultaneously gay and not gay until you quantify it.

>>8666428
Everything is a pseudoscience as long as you don't agree with it.

>>8662459
So what's it like, down there?
Do you have both?
do they both work?
I'm confused.

>>8668123
Intersex people aren't some quantum anomaly.

>>8668130
>From the perspective of an intersex person, LGBTetc. is both relatively normal and relatively privileged.
And for someone who has sickle cell anaemia having normal blood cells is considered privileged.
Still though on a fundamental level intersex is an ordinary mutation like being born with only one hand, or situs inversus, or maybe even Down's syndrome. Something that treated like a huge thing when there's absolutely no reason for it and really only gets most of its shit for being misunderstood and ironically being falsely linked to the mentally ill lgbt freaks.
There's no I in LGBT and there's no need for it either.

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i fucked an intersex girl (i think) she looked like a young jamie lee curtis.. still somewhat attractice

i remember she smelled different and had a low voice and was super agressive and squirted all over me

it makes me think that it's futile too obsess over who is a real girl and who isnt and that "real girl" is a better way to say cis which seems liek a jab at men by calling them sissys.

>>8669564
oh I actually believe myself to be more evolved and have superior attributes to others

>>8662847
This is why I want to be intersex, validation.

>>8669833
Good for you.

>>8669272
Yeah, I am what's called a "true hermaphrodite," from mosaic cells. So some of my cells have XX and some have XY. It's not chimerism, but I am from a multiple pregnancy. I have ovotestes, one is inside and one is outside. I have a non-functional womb. I have a very small vagina. I do get periods (sort of) but I am not male or female fertile. I have a surprisingly above average penis, but... I have a looot of trouble getting and keeping an erection. I have, like, B cups, maybe? I can grow facial hair but it takes a literal eternity. I have a puff of chest hair and a happy trail. I generally look like a shitty FtM or a twinky metalhead.

I recently had surgery to correct a vestigial branch urethra. It didn't open at the other set of genitals but it was there, and giving me hellish UTIs. I pee from my dick, but I pee sitting down. I think it's completely psychological, but I can't pee standing up unless I'm drunk.

>>8671125
How do you identify/present/socialize?

>>8671125
>ovotestes
Do these generally produce normal male or female hormone levels depending on the individual, or just a combination?

>>8673796
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovotestis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonadal_dysgenesis

>>8671125
lots of males pee sitting down

>>8662459
inb4 trans are magically "neurologically intersex" without proofs

>>8679440
>eighth post >>8662568
>yours was 134th