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>tfw HRT made you straight pls help i miss liking girls

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>tfw HRT made you straight
pls help i miss liking girls
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>>8622710
>i miss liking girls
y
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>>8622710
>i miss liking girls
i don't
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>>8622710
no you're for dicks now
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>>8622730
girls are so cute and pretty and nice. I wanted to be a cute girl that dates other cute girls

now I feel nothing for them and just want a tall strong bf to love and protect me. I didn't like guys at all pre-hrt so what happened?
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>tfw it made you not want sex
what do i do now
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>>8622784
progesterone maybe?
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>>8622783
>>8622710
Iktf I hate it so much
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>>8622790
maybe
but where am i going to get it
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>>8622784
be bi? date men romantically but sleep with women for sexual reasons only? Threesomes are fun.
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>>8622710
>>if pre-op trans
Eye-roll whatever agp.
>>if post-op trans
Eye-roll what the hell are you going to do with a chick anyways?

If you wanted women you shouldve stayed normal.
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>>8623648
>implying PIV is the only sex that exists
>implying trannies even want to penetrate
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>>8623765
- see AGP
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>>8622783
>I didn't like guys at all pre-hrt so what happened?

I'm no expert on trannies or gays, but I'd say you've just become a normal woman. Nothing strange about it.
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>>8622710

>has a strong back and a functioning penis near you

'sup
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How do i stay on hrt but become transbian again pls help
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>>8623779
>not getting off to non-genital intimacy
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>>8622783
There making the frogs gay
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>>8623859
stop oppressing me
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lmfao this board cracks me up

i came here from the front page by accident

so you were a dude who took hormones to turn you into a girl but now you like dudes?
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>>8623961
It happens quite often. This board calls it ufufu syndrome usually.
welcome to the rabbit hole.
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>>8623961
Yes but the dumb thing is she doesn't like it better this way.
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>>8622784
I got a bf and it came back. When he talks about making me his wife and tryong to get me pregnant even though he knows better I just feel so frisky. What's weird is that I don't get an errection, though. I just feel tingles and warmth in my general pelvic area.
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>>8623978
that's really hot. you should kiss him.
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>>8623961
i-it's not funny...
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>>8623973
The official term is pseudobisexuality.
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>>8623934

>cuts wood and grows bum hair near you
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>>8623976
Surely you wanted to be a woman, and now you got what you wanted?

You were once a man and had control of your own life, and now you don't have any testosterone, so you need a man to help give you direction

and there's nothing wrong with that. You feel it, no?
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>>8623989
shoo shoo.
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>>8623995
I'm much happier as a girl I just didn't expect this

also I don't have any surgeries (yet)
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>>8623996
You are absolutely right. These feelings are natural and true. Sadly not all of us realize this.
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>>8623765
HSTS that keep their penis do it for a reason, ya know?

Plenty of straight trannies that just like ti penetrate men from time to time
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>>8624018
Nah i kept my penis cause it still feels good to rub it and use vibes on it. Don't like topping though.
I think small tiny penises are cute
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>>8624024
>Nah
She wasn't talking about you.
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>>8624025
why are you so mean?

the worst part is hrt made me like getting bullied...
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>>8623985
I WANT TO BUT HE LIVES 1000 MILES FROM ME. It's ok. I have like 20 days of vacation time saved up. I want to visit him around Valentine's Day and drain him of fluids so that it'll take at least 6 months to recover.
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>>8624031
Meanie
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>>8624062
well, there's not much of a choice when you have dysphoria. no way I want to go back to being a guy
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>>8624068
AGP is a compliment dummy.
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>>8622710
Wait so you use to be a dude that likes girls but now trans and attracted to dudes. You're gay
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>>8624065
I've never had a bf. I get lonely sometimes. you should smoke some weed with him and then cuddle when you see him. and go to a concert.
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>>8622710
Lol HRT turned me into a slave to dick.
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guys are great
but I want a transbian top gf
just came dreaming of one while fingering myself
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Everyone in this thread should be grateful HRT didn't make them into bestiality.
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>>8624317
Being into men is pretty much bestiality.
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>>8624320
Trust me it's very different.
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>>8624344
>Trust me it's very different.

That's an uneasily authoritative statement.
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>>8624301
God I just want dicks in my butt so bad. I really want to just lie in bed sucking on a penis all night while a guy runs his hand through my hair ;_;
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1 year on HRT, I desperately want to be straight but I just like girls. I'm trying to force it but it won't work. Help me.
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>>8623996
>You were once a man and had control of your own life, and now you don't have any testosterone, so you need a man to help give you direction
Damn, this is so spot on. I wish it wasn't, but it is. I understand why women always got upset with directionless, wussy guys.
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>>8624211
Well neither of us do drugs or really go to concerts, but there will be lots of cuddling. Hugs and fugs. Like seriously I'm going to put his balls in a semen deficit when I finally get my hands on him! He'll be having dry orgasms for months! Like even though I can't get pregnant we're damn sure gonna try!
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I feel so bad for you op. It also always terrifies me when I hear these stories.

>Lesbian trans woman and hella happy/proud this way.

I identified as a lesbian even before I knew I was trans so I think I am safe.
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>>8624426
>I identified as lesbian even before I knew I was trans
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>>8624356
ugh that does sound nice...

I used to feel a sense of pride living a life independent from men. after I transitioned I thought I had ditched masculinity for good and that I could finally put it and all the bad things it had done to me behind me. now I really want men to notice and dominate me and it's somewhat embarassing
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>>8624509
You think that's embarrassing? I'm a workaholic know it all that usually seems like they're all business in the office. Every day on lunch I text my boyfriend and I want nothing more for him to destroy my boipussy and turn me into a quivering mess of a girl. I want him to explore every inch of my body until he can spot the changes from one day to another. I want him to make me his woman and for him to treat me like his most cherished property. But I'm still not out to anyone I work with. To them I'm just that guy who's always working overtime and trying to get other people to stay on task. If they knew that I was a submissive girl in my entire private life I'm not sure I'd be able to look them in he eyes anymore. Or even have any credibility when I asked them to do things.
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>>8622783
There are qt boys
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>>8624538
>I want nothing more for him to destroy my boipussy and turn me into a quivering mess of a girl.

Like not sure if you realize that a woman can still totally destroy you and leave you a quivering mess. I feel like people are so close minded about this despite transition you still reinforce classic stereotypes... *sigh*
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>>8624722
I think the thing you need to keep in mind about 4chan MTFs is that most of them grew up very conservative so, even after transitioning, they're still stuck with the same traditionalist views.
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>hormones changed mah sexuality!

honscience
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>>8624751
science: BSTc (the tiny region of the brain responsible for sexual behavior) is affected by sex hormones
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>>8624722 >>8624740

stereotypes exist for a reason
most women are subs, doms are rare
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>>8622783
boys are better anyway
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>>8624722
>>8624858
I am a woman and both myself and my female partner are switches. She is bi and she has told me that despite being with a lot of different guys most of them never even so much as managed to get her to orgasm. (And I believe it.) Most guys are get in get out types and the ones into trans women tend to be all about asserting dominance over what they see as other effeminate men. (Hence what makes them chasers you are "men" who want to be treated as women, which makes them feel more manly for having dominated you.) for the record, I see transwomen as women but I am just explaining the way these men see you most of the time.
As for you and the whole
> turn me into a quivering mess of a girl.
stuf... You basically are saying being dominated makes you valid as a woman which is a fucked up attitude to hold and really speaks volumes to what you really need. (A therapist not a boyfriend)

Lots of cis girls go through a phase where they seek validation through men. So I can't very well expect you to dodge that either but just know that the feelings you are having may have less to do with your orientation and more to do with misunderstood gender roles.

You don't need a man to "make you a woman".
Let me say that again. You should be confident enough in your womanhood that you don't need ANY partner to validate you.

I think if anything if you find your sexuality changing now it is because you actually always were gay (before/ now - straight) but repressed it along with being transgender.

End of the day anons you do you. If you want to chase dudes just leaves more available women for the rest of us ;)

I am a lesbian and don't expect that to ever change. Like as long as the possibilty of waking up next to pic related is on the table it seems pretty one sided.
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>>8624964
>I am just explaining the way these men see you most of the time.
;~;
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>>8624843
There's a huge leap from that to changing a person's sexuality

It's less emotional labor for people to rationalize that HRT altered their sexuality, instead of admitting that they had certain repressed inclinations all along
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>>8624964
Also, memes aside, this is a good post.
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that seem horrible
I can't imagine not loving girls
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like
i feel like loving women is such a fundamental part of myself, I would feel so horrible if that changed
the feelings I have about women are so much better and more powerful than anything else I can really think of
its like spiritual almost
its like the most transcendentally meaningful thing to me
honestly feel so bad for you
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>>8624964
again, being a sub is typical and natural for female and is a huge turn on, nothing of "I have to be sub to be validated"

>You should be confident enough in your womanhood that you don't need ANY partner to validate you.
yeah it's great to be cis

>you actually always were gay
there was a study that showed self-identified transbians are actually bi (brain response to both male and female pheromones but weaker to male ones) so HRT could shift that
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>>8625032
>natural for female
no
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>>8625050
yes, supported by numerous studies of personalty traits and sexual preferences and by practice
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But OP, now you get to have sex with men.
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>>8624018
Plus mutilating your dick has terrible results overall, only a third of people are happy with the way things come out and suicide rates jump after SRS because it doesn't create a vagina that works properly. Dilating four hours a day is hell, you can never have a normal life again.
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>>8624964
Most women aren't willing to date trannies, and of the few who are, even fewer are dominant. It isn't about validation, it's about what someone enjoys sexually.
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>>8625050
It's been validated through multiple studies over the years.
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>>8625178
>Repeating stale memes disproved in that other thread you posted
Nice try.
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>>8622710
Ha, silly transbian. You can't resist big, fat piece of throbbing cock-meat.
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>>8622783
Just roll with it anon. It will be a lot easier to get into a relationship with a guy than a girl because with girls you have to get a girlfriend who is a lesbian and open to transomen, which is harder than you may think.
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>>8624722
Hmm? When did I ever imply otherwise?! I never said girls can't be good doms. I just happen to be straight.
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>>8622710
happened to me too anon

legitimate reversal in arousal, fantasizing, preferred role, etc

the sex is better tho, no reason to be upset abt it
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>>8624964
Hi I'm not the person you replied to, but I'm the person you think you were replying to. Lots of assumptions you just made, friend. I don't need a man to validate my identity as a woman. I do, however want one to make me cum and then cuddle with me afterwards. Big difference. Also my sexuality never shifted. You're mistaking me for a different poster.
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>>8623648
>Eye-roll what the hell are you going to do with a chick anyways?
do you not know that lesbians exist
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>>8622710
this triggers my agp
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>>8625275
same... i'm exclusively attracted to women but i want to suck dick and get fucked, and the idea that taking titty skittles would make me romantically attracted to men turns me into jelly
what the fuck is wrong with me
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>>8625232
I didn't post that other thread, I have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>8622710
This kind of happened to me not really.

Before hrt if I had a fantasy about sex with a guy it mase me uncomfortable, but noe I'm totally cool with it. I couldn't really deal with fantasizing about sex with a man s hile I was a man, but after transitioning i don't mind it.
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https://sexnotgender.com/2013/10/16/long-term-studies-on-the-efficacy-of-sex-reassignment-procedures-objective-versus-subjective-measurements/

Objective measures show SRS to have no benefit. Furthermore, if the people I've known that underwent SRS, all but one have been unhappy with their results in one way or another. Having an inverted penis with no lubrication that looks nothing like a real vagina and often has substantially diminished sensation is hardly a miracle fix.
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>>8623884
pic rel
>>8622710
Don't worry about it, it's just how sexuality work. Get a cute bf instead.
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>>8625336
>I'm gonna prove transitioning is wrong and bad treatment!
>uses studies that don't compare transitioned people to pre-transition people experiencing gender dysphoria to try and fail to make a point about suicide rates
>study about some shit unrelated to SRS results but about criminality instead(???)
>haha but yeah how happy the patient is totally doesn't have anything to do with this surgical procedure originally meant to reduce mental stress and unhappiness or how effective it is! T-t-trust me!

Did you actually read how stupid the link you posted was or are you actually the sad individual responsible for that 'article'(lmao) who has to type shit like this out on a daily basis in order to convince themselves not to transition?
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>>8625307
do it
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>>8625336
That website looks like typical TERF bs that takes research out of context to support an anti-trans agenda.
Saying that everyone you've known who had SRS has been unhappy in some way means nothing. If you have complex surgery, I would expect to find at least a few things you'd wish were better or aren't quite right. That doesn't mean you're not happy with the overall result.
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>>8625032
>self-identified transbians are actually bi
Cool story bro. Just keep trying to say actual lesbian transwomen don't exist. Gl with that.
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>>8625590
So if you lost yours in an accident, would you not get a transplant or any sort of replacement?
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>>8624722
>>8624740
>>8624964
You fail to see that lesbians hate MtFs.
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>>8626788
That's just not true. The world isn't 4chan.
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>>8625445
I'm not mentally ill, I have no desire to transition because I'm a cis male. I do, however, think that the benefits of SRS are dubious at best. I've never seen a study that showed any improvement in objective measures (suicidality, morbidity, mortality) post-SRS.
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>>8627028
Here:
>>8624715
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>>8623973

Did Ufufu eventually finally lose to cock?
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>>8623973
>>8627090
what the fuck is an ufufu
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>>8623988
That's what you get for taking a fetish so far that you mutilated your body and fucked up your hormonal activity.

All you're good for now is being a cock sucking sissy bitch boy. Which is probably what you always wanted deep down.
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>>8627932
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>>8628222
wow, she's pretty and that's a hella cool phone case

did she suffer the same fate?
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>>8628228
sort of, she kind of realised she wasnt a lesbian and is now comfortable calling herself bi
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>piv with my trans bf
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>>8628231
that's how I was for a while but now I've completely crossed over

and I know this shit is real because I had an extreme genuine attraction for girls before that's gone away completely, aside from extremely specific fetishes where I can self-insert myself
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>>8625949
yeah it's pretty cool
google "response of gynephilic MtF transsexuals to sex pheromones"
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>>8627932

>newfags
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>>8628281
thats why its called ufuflu
boys are better anyway
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>>8628332
I wish. I've spent way too long here and I really wish I could bring myself to leave (help)
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>>8628354
>(help)

If I make it out, I'll send it.
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>>8628339

BOYS SMELL SO GOOD ITS SUPER FUCKED UP
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>tfw you love girls so much and want to cuddle with them and kiss them
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>>8628607
they also look and taste good
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>>8628629
fuck theres this boy in my office and hes really hot and hes gonna teach me how to play magic cards how do i play it cool ugh i wanna sniff him fuck hes tall too
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>>8628629
>tfw 182 cm mtf
that pic triggers me, but at least I've found a good guy that's a couple inches taller than me
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>>8628657
just be your regular cute self and dont feel under any pressure to do anything unless you wanna totally suck his dick

>>8628670
s-sorry Sakomoto-chan
I hope your boy makes you feel smol tho
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>tfw really short so girls make you feel smol too
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>>8628676
okok shit i dont know who in my office knows im trans ;_; i just wanna touch cuties
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>>8628693
do it
touch his butt
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>>8628696
fuuuuuuuuu
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>>8628690
>tfw i will never experience this feel
i just want to be smol and qt
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If a gay guy goes through hrt to become a woman is there a chance he unwillingly flips sexualities and becomes a lesbian?
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>>8628702
get a tall boi
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>>8628702
tall girls are wonderful
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>>8628706
how did thunk get here lol
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>>8628715
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>>8628706
I actually have never heard of this. I've heard about many ex-transbians becoming bi or straight, but never the other way around
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I am a literal newfag and this thread is giving me a fucking headache. Is this what every thread on /LGBT/ is like?
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>>8628740
i used to think i was bi but i only like girls now
i don't think my sexuality changed tho i was just confused
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>>8628780
or maybe you are just lesbian now
does this do anythink for you
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>>8628786
nope
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>>8628706
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/8qezbp/the-trans-women-who-become-lesbians-after-years-as-gay-men-412
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>>8628794
then yeah you were probably just always a lesbin or hrt made you prefer grills
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>>8628769
this is not even a bad one, most are worse

>>8628780
I heard this before, even more extreme going from bi more into men to only into women, who knows what factors are in play
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>>8628800
yeah i mean like obviously its an attractive guy but i feel sort of like when you see a nice painting or a cute animal, like it looks good aesthetically but i don't want to fuck it
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>>8628794
>tfw feel indifferent to both but really like the way men make me feel
when I see a guy I like it's not direct sexual arousal, it's more of like a "he would treat me right" type feeling and I think about what it'd be like for him to dominate me

is this normal or is it pseudo-bisexuality? pseudo-straight? hetero-romantic autosexuality? wtf
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>>8628833
It is meta-attraction, which is what pseudo-bi/pseudo-het means. You could call it hetero-romantic autosexuality if you wanted too.

tl;dr yes all three
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>>8628851
okay, that's helpful, even though I feel like more of a freak now...
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>>8628893
It's what most trannies into guys are like, so you're hardly alone.
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>>8622710
Highly unfortunately it did the opposite to me
I was only into masc boys
now its twinks or girls
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This whole thread is a meme. It gets posted once a month or so.

tl;dr Your sexuality doesn't change you just open up and accept what you were all along. If you are genuinely a lesbian/attracted to women that isn't going anywhere.
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>>8622784

Sounds like you're becoming a normal woman.
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>>8628931
no, you gotta believe me! pre-hrt I...

>had a giant folder full of sexy girl pics I'd accumulated for years. (it was 90% anime but still)
>would be literally stunned whenever a beautiful woman was around, completely lose my focus, and would have to resist the urge to stare
>constant lesbian fantasies
>was completely disgusted by male bodies and penises

hrt changed all of this. I'm literally straight up indifferent to women now.

do you know what it was like to delete all my lewd pics? my 5 years of hard work? it was my pride and joy, but that was taken from me

or meeting cute girls that like me and I know I would've totally been into, but I just can't bring myself to be attracted to anymore?

it was all taken from me... this is no joking matter!
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Being attracted to women is degenerate. Consider yourself lucky. Just fuck another tranny or a femboy if you have a fetish for cute/fem people.
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>>8628986
>my 5 years of hard work?
No lesbian would be crying over her porn stash (that she likely wouldn't even have) anyway so I think you are just becoming what you really were all along. "Heterosexuality" was a stepping stone and a coping mechanism for you.

Sorry, you don't like your current situation though. That would be hell.
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>>8629120
>No lesbian would be crying over her porn stash (that she likely wouldn't even have) anyway so I think you are just becoming what you really were all along.
Flawless logic.

>>8628986
It's pretty common for male bodybuilders to get surges of libido from test-boosting supplements like zinc (AKA the reason why oysters are an aphrodisiac.) I don't see why feminine libido couldn't also be boosted by female hormones.
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>>8622783
>now I feel nothing for them and just want a tall strong bf to love and protect me
me, except i got twice the problem
>no white men in my town
>or my region
>no money to leave, shit job will take me years to move away
it will remain a dream
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>>8629293
>test-boosting supplements like zinc
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>>8629402
You sound like you know a lot about nutrition.
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>>8625050
That's just true my friend. Don't deny science. "I don't think women should feel the need to be submissive" and "I understand most women are naturally submissive by nature" can both exist in the same reality, they are not mutually exclusive.
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>>8629120
>you saved porn so no way no lesbian accumulates porn nice try but you didn't really feel the things that you felt
It's posts like these that are why I come here, a healthy mix of entertainment at stupid shit I read and a bit of sorrow understanding that some people come here for actual advice.
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>>8624405
are you me
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>>8624053
Same, look what it did to me, I was almost almost middle of the road before
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>tfw you're biologically female/genderqueer and will never have a cute genderqueer andro guy to turn into your femme sub boy in the bedroom, because most eventually want to be dominated by a big guy with a dick.
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^ yeah op is trans/on hrt but still it's the same continuum.
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>>8631483
>Genderqueer

So you're cis?
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>>8631493
DADDY WHY DONT YOU LOVE ME DONT YOU KNOW IM A MINORATY IM TRANS NOW DADDY NOTICE ME PLEASE
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>>8631483
I want to be dominated by a woman, not by a guy.
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>>8631483
>>tfw you're biologically female/genderqueer and will never have a cute genderqueer andro guy to turn into your femme sub boy in the bedroom, because most eventually want to be dominated by a big guy with a dick.

So many terms that just add up to "I'm a straight female snowflake"
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>>8622783
Why not test the waters? You may like how being with a man feels.
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>>8631483
what
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>tfw HRT made you straight

HRT made me like dogs, you got off easy
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>>8631805
PsZo.
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>>8631770

>>8631557

nah you cunts, but there's not much point transitioning though when you look like me. Besides I'm not going to sit here pretending all the aap/agp that transition have more right to call themselves trutrans or some bs lol. aap/agp is all the same thing and most take years to become dysphoric enough to transistion.

If you're not hsts you can def gtfo.
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>>8622710
It didn't make you straight you were always an autistic gay guy you just couldn't be open about it unless you were falsely thinking about yourself as a woman because you hate being gay.
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>>8633560
Bullshit

If you don't experience dysphoria you ARE NOT trans.

You're just a snowflake.
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>>8633560
take your autism pills, girl and try to read less pseudoscience bullshit
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>>8633591

who said I didn't experience dysphoria? It's manageable for now, there's no point transitioning if I can't have a fully functional dick, and then top surgery results...

And nothing I said is bullshit lol you're just buthurt. It's definitely true that people go their whole life and then suddenly just transition why is that? Because their aap/agp escalated that's why and it happens at different stages for different people and some never get to that stage where they feel the need to physically transition to such a high degree.

You guys are so fucking naive it's hilarious.
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I mean I say it's manageable besides the fact I can't have sex because of my body. or look at certain areas in the mirror, but you know.
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but you know what this is fucking stupid, I made one offhand comment and you lose your shit because of how I phrased what I said?
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>>8633630
Looks like you are the one loosing your shit snowflake.
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>>8633613
Gender queers dont snowflake.

I'm not butthurt, im annoyed people like you ride our medical condition to feel special.

Because you have to be special. You have no idea what its like, you are just another peon that wants to feel diffrent.

Its manageable' bullshit, we repress it for years until it almost kills us. Your complete lack of understanding shines like your ego.

Drown yourself in a bucket of lard.
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Yeah sure, you're pissed because I called out agp/aap as a thing. Keep lying to yourself and thinking you're somehow different despite the lack of non-conformity compared to hsts.

You know how many transpeople I've come across who didn't get dysphoric until well into puberty and adulthood? Then they transition. It's a lot. There is no dividing line here.

But I'm done here now. Think what you want.
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One last thing before I go though - it has nothing to do with being special you fucking morons. This has completely ruined my life, and I'm sure it has for many other aap's who don't transition.
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>>8633654
Sure snowflake

AGP is somthing you people made up to we legitimise us so you could implant your shit.

I have known I was trans since I was 3, I dont get sexual or social gratification out of it.

Grow up snowflake.
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>>8633664
>I have known I was trans since I was 3
How?
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>>8633666
It was innate, I didn't know what it was called but I knew I was mental to be the other sex.

I always tried to be.

that's how.
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>>8633674
Sounds like something you made up later.
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Jesus why am I getting sucked back in.

>I have known I was trans since I was 3, I dont get sexual or social gratification out of it.

because you're a hsts transsexual and implant what shit wtf are you talking about lol?

>something you people made up

Who? It was made up by some researcher in the 80s or so pretty sure he's as far from a 'snowflake' as you can get.

You think throwing that word around has any meaning? Just another one of those words people throw around to silence people like 'racist' or 'transphobic' or whatever.

I didn't like the idea of agp/aap at all at first and spent a lot of time reading to disprove it, but can't deny it fits as a broad blueprint of transsexuality.
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>>8633691
Heh nope, there is a reason my whole family thought I was gay.

I used to beg to have my hair cut like the girls when I was 3, I remember that clearly.
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for the record I think most people simplify aap/agp to a point where it becomes incorrect (it's not all about sexual arousal for instance,) and I don't think the theory fits perfectly, but if you read into it extensively without bias you can see what they're getting at with types.
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>>8633711
How did your family feel about you being gay?
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>>8633789
Oddly, they where just happy I was getting treated.
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>>8633835
Getting treated?
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>>8633904
Transition
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>>8633906
As I suspected. They would rather have a trans girl daughter than a girly gay son and their homophobia rubbed off on you and drove you to transition.

A sad story.
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>>8633613
If you don't intend to go on hormones, you're not trans, you're a snowflake who wants the oppression Olympics points without actually committing.
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>>8634164
This
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reminder that autistic teen girls have problems with accepting gender and expressing their sexuality
falling behind their normie peers they go through a non-conforming phase and at this age of internet they fall for the queer bullshit they read on their tumblrs and enjoy the freedom girls have in their expression, start playing these games with madeup genders and pronounces (autists may have problems with abstractions like gender) and non-conforming presenting
that's why number of supposedly f2ms increased tenfold in recent years

but they eventually mature and grow out of this phase - 99% of 'trenders' are females
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>>8634303
Trans them until boys get the same freedom I say.
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>>8634303
I remember reading on r/gendercritical about a trender who detransitioned and she was horrified at her masc voice. The answers were all like oh hon lots of women have deep voices.
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>>8625239

I dunno I get the sense a lot of gays arn't that into trans honestly. I usually get like 10x more responses from fags online when I leave out the crossdressing/HRT/trans stuff.
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>>8633711
fwiw I believe you because I had dysphoric feelings when I was 3.
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>>8633957
Your theory doesn't always work. My mother was meh about me being trans but my father has told me he'd rather I was a gay guy than trans.
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>>8635337
>dysphoric feelings
gay shame
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>>8635353
Unfortunately for him it was too late and the shame you'd been exposed to for being gay had already sunk in.
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>>8635379
I was gender dysphoric before I even knew what being gay was.
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>>8634303
a lot of trenders are female, but it's more like 60-65% for people who go beyond putting "genderqueer" in their bio

and t is hard to get so they usually don't make it very far, the male trenders often fuck themselves up pretty bad
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>>8636656
More like 90% are female.

>>8635379
Its not gay shame doofus, I was not gay at 3. This was somthing broken as hell in my head.

My family has stated they would hasty prefer I saw normal than anything else, their just happy I'm not dead.
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