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Specific case of AGP : need help figuring it out.

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Hi /lgbt/!

First off, I think I will see a therapist soon, but I'm lost at this moment and talking about it will make me feel a bit better.

So, I'm currently bisexual (have had a girlfriend, but never slept with a man) and as far as I remember my homosexuality always leaned toward being submissive. Being a top has never been attractive to me. I never had any success with girls and was regularly bullied, especially regarding my credibility as a male.
With time, I became more and more insecure about my gender (short/average dick, no beard, not tall, looking too young...) and I started to get off picturing me as a girl, or fantasizing being kidnapped and morphed into a pretty girl against my will.

Very classic AGP, and a lot of transsexuals began like this.

However when I had my girlfriend and had sex for the first time, it suddenly disappeared. I was finally desired and feeling like a man. I never been so happy in my life.

As she had mental issues we eventually broke up after a few months. The feel last for around a year, but I was unable to find anyone else either to have sex or have a relationship. Then slowly AGP made its way back, especially from the numerous rejections I got.
Today I sometime get off to sissy stuff, and jerk off picturing me like the girl. Still jack off to straight content but it's fairly uncommon as I tell myself "What's the point I won't get a girl in my bed again, I should get pleasure from something actually reachable"

The thing is, I don't want to be a girl to be happy, but because I feel I failed as a man, and I'm afraid it's not a sane reason to make a transition. It's just that sex and relationships seem so easy to live and get, men desire you and want you, you don't have to meet crazy standards to have pleasure. Of course I'm sure I'm idealizing right now, but this is what's going on in my brain.
The few times I had an ego boost as a male, AGP wents away. Of course It would went back as soon as my ego took a hit.
I'm lost.
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>>8620073
AGP is known to exist in conflict with heterosexuality. Anything that boosts one may decrease the other. A relationship with a woman may keep AGP 'in remission' indefinitely and presumably the other way around can work too.
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>>8620135
Hmm that would explain a lot.
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>>8620429
Do elaborate!
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>>8620481
The fact that when my male part is ego boosted, AGP just goes away. It comes back only when I don't feel worthy to be a man anymore.
My brain works differently than most people with AGP, most of them just feel like they're in the wrong body, and if they were given the choice to instantly become a cute girl they would say yes.
I can understand this choice, and I would say yes only because it would allow me to flee my flawed body and make everything easier. But now, if I was given the choice to instantly become a successful handsome man, I would take that choice over a cute girl by far.
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>>8620498
I don't think that's some inherent difference between you and other AGPs, just a sign you have more male identity/ego.

Plus I bet there's lots more AGPs who identify as male or closer to male than we see.
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>>8620514
I see, I would even go further and say that AGP is not as uncommon as we think.
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>>8620562
Agreed. What numbers would you guess?
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Hey, esl here sorry in advance for my grammar
Shit, I'm pretty much in the same boat
But i haven't had luck with a woman yet , my only encounters with women have been with hookers , and they just made things worse for my insecurity, as i had a hard time maintaining my dick erect and couldn't reach an orgasm with any of them
>With time, I became more and more insecure about my gender (short/average dick, no beard, not tall, looking too young...) and I started to get off picturing me as a girl...
This is so precisely accurate to my experience it's scary man, to add to those i started losing weight and developed a crossdressing fetish
Now you say your agp disappearead once you got your manhood reaffirmed , that's crazy man , it might be the solution for our agp, don't you think ?
I'm just throwing random theories here but your agp might have regenereted because you gave up on women plus the sissy porn triggered the self-shame even more until you basically went back to square one
You should consider quitting porn for life, if this is the first time you're hearing such a thing, you may think doing this is impossible but it's not
I can say this since i've been clean for some time and i actually think my encounters with those hookers went so bad cause i was a heavy porn user at that time and used to fap 3 times a day, also porn really fucks with your brain in different levels period
Now finding a girl is a different history , i'm struggling with that myself
However, and I'd like your opinion about this, even tho transitioning is totally not for me, i don't mind agp much these days , like you said having the option of having a boyfriend makes living easier, makes me wonder if agp is actually an issue that needs to be fixed, being bi by default to me opens more chances for a partner which sounds more like an advantange
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>>8620073, i forgot to quote you on my first post
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Nevertheless i have two issues with just embracing agp as part of my sexuality
First, is this "i like being with men cause it makes me feel more femenine and i'm not man enough for a beautiful woman" mentality a healthy life choice in the long run even if i'm still open to have a relationship with both men and women
Second, my attraction towards men has increased dramatically after a few one night stands, yet right after i reached my climax with them i felt regret and disgust for what i did, the desire for dick comes back as my libido goes back to normal tho, i have the theory that this is because i didn't have a emotional connection with those guys and i chose awful partners but i'm not sure desu
What do you think about all this?
How was your experience with men?
Anyone who can help me figure this out is welcomed, please reply!
Ot: i'm still learning english, how is it?
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>>8620073
I remember when i was a kid and was very AGP, I went to this party and got to dance with two very beautiful tall blonde girls. Everyone seemed happy for me (friends at the time) and i felt quite like a boss that night. After I arrived home I was kinda horny and thought of masturbating to my usual AGP fantasies, but a sudden feeling washed over me telling me it wasn't worth it, and that what I had experienced was way better than these pathetic feminization, humiliating fantasies. I didn't fantasize that night nor the few weeks are it. It eventually came back though.
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>>8620073
Take hormones and become a girl. You'll give up on wanting to chase girls and do manly things so you won't be dealing with these feels. Real men don't experience these things. You sound like you're just trans and get off on being desired as a woman.
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>>8624390
Terrible advice , homones will only make shit worse
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>>8624404
Well then OP needs to stop being a fucking pussy and man up
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>>8624335
>First, is this "i like being with men cause it makes me feel more femenine and i'm not man enough for a beautiful woman" mentality a healthy life choice in the long run even if i'm still open to have a relationship with both men and women
I think so. It's no diffewrent from a relationship with a woman in that they both appeal to different parts of your sexuality, either the agp or the heterosexuality.

>Second, my attraction towards men has increased dramatically after a few one night stands, yet right after i reached my climax with them i felt regret and disgust for what i did, the desire for dick comes back as my libido goes back to normal tho, i have the theory that this is because i didn't have a emotional connection with those guys and i chose awful partners but i'm not sure desu
I think it's from a few factors. Lack of emotional connection as you thought and mentally not seeing yourself as a girl enough. My advice is try to get the feeling of being feminine and imagining yourself as a girl to be something that lasts longer than just when you're horny or during a sexual encounter. Crossdressing and being called female pet names by your partner might help. It's just getting that female mindset.

Once you've got it and can keep it, then finishing sex will no longer feel disgusting because it still feels straight. The disgust is from seeing yourself as male again, which makes the sex you just had gay. Agps aren't attracted to men so much as they are attracted to being girls and having hetero sex as a girl. As long as you're still a girl in your mind, the sex won't become incompatible with your agp orientation.

Your Englsh is good, just casual (lots of lowercase letters). Your grammar may be a bit off but not enough to make it unreadable, just distinctive. You put a space before commas a lot, like ,
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>>8624427
Oh thats a good idea. Maybe that will help me enjoy my pseudo bi. Seems like a common problem, I notice it with porn, I cum and lose interest in men.

I think part of the problem is repression. If your only a girl in the bedroom, you lose that from cumming. But if your all girl all the time, then after cumming you just go back to being a girl.

My AGP has been eating my identity pretty good and i'm starting to rationalize being a non transitioner as just being a woman on T.
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