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Why do you guys pretend to hate chasers? Out of all the uncertainties

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Why do you guys pretend to hate chasers? Out of all the uncertainties of becoming trans, you somehow pretend to despise the one group of people that actually show interest in you. Be it sexual or genuine, it's objectively no different from a male seeking a female solely for innate biological fulfillment. When are you going to stop being a retard and get yourself a chaser bf?

>confident in their sexuality
>strong career
>able to provide
>sexually interested in you
>MTF personality means automatic sharing of similar interests

Explain to me what I am missing here.
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>>8614244
What you are missing is that chasers want the cawk, and we don't want it focused on or even acknowledged most of the time.
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what the fuck is a chaser
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>>8614305
This.
Also chasers aren't interested in relationships, they just want to pump and dump.
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Cause they're shitty. Good answer yeah?

I mean the idea generally being that what makes a chaser is being shitty in those kinds of ways. If they weren't shitty you wouldn't call them a chaser. So it's kind of a given.
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>>8614365
>>8614354
>>8614305
not op, but literally missing his (guessing) point.
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>>8614317
Usually a porn addict who has watched too much 'she-male' porn and thinks all transwomen just love to whip out the cawk. Short for tranny chaser, kind of like chubby chaser.
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>>8614374
>want to transition
>complain when people who are attracted to the gender you're transitioning to come after you
DUMB.
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>>8614244
Because they tend to be intense and unpleasant to be around.
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>>8614385
No actually it's like girls complaining about creeps. Which makes sense, since there's a lot of those and some are real creepy.
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>>8614244
Because I pass well enough to attract many straight men, and some of them are open minded enough to accept me? Because said men aren't even remotely as creepy, objectifying, and toxic as chasers? Chasers are disgusting desu. I would rather be alone forever than be with one.
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>>8614434
i hope you realize you're insinuating that chasers gay, which means that those actually interested in who you are gay. by your logic no "straight" man will be interested in you.
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>>8614443
Because if you're attracted to me for my dick, you are gay. Whereas straight men have no idea I'm trans until I tell them, and are attracted to me before it. Many of them do decide not to date me after disclosure, yes, but there are those who are happy to overlook it. My current boyfriend of 6 months is one of them.

Maybe chasers wouldn't be so bad if most didn't act like stereotypical "nice guys" and "incels".
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>>8614498
>attracted to me for my dick
not everyone attracted to transwomen are innit just for a dick, anon.

it's like being mad at someone for being attracted to a woman for having tits.
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>>8614508
I'm pretty sure most women wouldn't be too happy if guys were only interested in them for their big tits and would leave them if they got a reduction.
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>>8614522
you're literally missing the point where not everybody is solely interested in one thing.
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I don't mind chasers, or transgender fetishists. They should be more honest with what they are though. There is nothing wrong with having a fetish, unlike what the puritanical elements of this board would love to have you believe trying desperately to get papa /pol/ to talk to them.

There are other problems, of course. A fetish isn't a stable foundation to build a relationship on. If we match in other interesting ways perhaps, but don't be too upset if we just can't click right and shit goes south like any other relationship.
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>>8614508
Honestly, just stop talking about subjects you have no clue or personal experience about.
Chasers literally tell us at any given opportunity that our only redeemable quality is that we have a dick and if we got rid of it we would lose all appeal.
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>>8614540
So you actually use chaser to talking about chasers.
a lot of mtfs call any dude who shows any interest in them a chaser.

theres a big difference between a lowered happiness and someone who'll leave you over something so stupid
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>>8614540
>Chasers literally tell us at any given opportunity that our only redeemable quality is that we have a dick and if we got rid of it we would lose all appeal
This might just be the worst thing about chasers honestly. They intentionally try to sabotage your self esteem to keep you down and dependent on them. It's gross.
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>>8614498
Hehehh
Yeah I'm sure they have no idea you're trans.
You know they'd just pretend to not know so that you wouldn't dump them for being a chaser.
What if they really don't know but find out and realize they want you cock? What then? Are they a chaser then?

You're not gonna find a man indifferent. Either he likes it or is disgusted by it.
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>>8614689
naw I'm pretty sure I don't give a shit actually but that's fine, you do you boyo
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>>8614689
Not that anon, but it's hilarious how chasers try to rationalize these things in their mind while trying to gaslight trans people. I get hit on at the same rate as my cis friends; do you really mean to say that there's so many chasers out there?
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>>8614706
Yes.
And you can read? What happens when they find out if they don't know?
Either they'll be disgusted or turned on.
There's no indifference.
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>>8614739
But being turned on by you regardless of your dick is different than being turned on because of your dick.
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>>8614782
what if a post op trans still turns us on
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>>8614782
I meant being turned on by the dick.
What happens if they don't know and then know and then realize they're turned on by the dick? Are they chaser then? Will you dump them?
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>>8614244
>Be it sexual or genuine, it's objectively no different from a male seeking a female solely for innate biological fulfillment.

It's pretty much completely different. I tried, I really tried to be his little bitch, but it just made me feel too much like a tranny faggot. It was so much different from how a relationship would be with a normal boyfriend, he was way more forceful and sexual, it just felt gross. I'd rather make do with people who don't know.
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>>8614244

If she likes you, you're not a chaser.

If she doesn't, you are.

Get it yet? Trannys just gonna rationalize, it's pretty simple. 8/10+ "chases" and they're fine. 5/10 chases and he's scum.

Welcome to life, OP. Women and attractive men have it easy.
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>>8614807
That sounds like something from r/incels or /r9k/
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>>8614244
They're not interested in you if you've had SRS. They want cock.
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>>8614813
And what's wrong with that? And why not both? Also srs is pretty gross. It's an open wound with hair build up inside. Worse than a normal vagina.
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>>8614826
>hair build up inside

This does not happen if you go to a competent surgeon.
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>>8614811
>implying any of it is false
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>>8614852
Robots and incels are just looking for excuses to explain their lack of sexual success tbqh. They're typical neckbeard fedoras
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>>8614826
Because it's fetishizing parts of our bodies that set us apart from women. SRS being gross is just an excuse. The real issue is no dick=no interest.
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>>8614859
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>>8614859
>can't contradict a single part of it
>just ad homs
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>>8614873
Is it fetishizing to like big ass, lath breasts and a curvy figure?
Also how exactly is that bad? You have a higher sexual market value.
It's like Asian women bitching about "yellow fellow" when a it beneficial and b it's simply preference or like things that are exotic, like gold. If gold was as common as lead it wouldn't be worth anything. It's rare and pretty and humans like it.
Anything sexual is no different.
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>>8614873
You really believe if you actually had real girl vagina, all the guys who would be interested in you now wouldn't be interested in you then?
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>>8614859
Cmon now.
Be truthful with yourself and to everyone else in the thread.
If you called a 3/10 guy creepy, let's assume not very good at social things and what not, and a 10/10 said or did the exact same thing would you call them creepy?
How about if the 3/10 was a multi millionaire(I don't know how rich you are but let's assume the median income)?
If you wouldn't call 10/10 a creep or the rich 3/10 a creep then you're just a regular woman.
A hypergamous gold digging whore.
Congratulations you are a real woman.
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>>8614894
There are always exceptions, but I believe that chasers are only interested in transwomen with dicks. I think that even if SRS could create cis-tier vaginas that chasers wouldn't be interested.
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>>8614888
Except a cis woman without a dick is always going to be worth more than a trans woman with a dick. Soooo.....

If cis women are lead, trannies are coal.
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What if I am attracted to trans women but absolutely do not want to do anything sexual with them?
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>>8614961
To chasers, which I think is a very good percentage of men, an attractive/cute woman with a dick is worth a lot more than an attractive/cute woman without one sexual wise.
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>>8614244
>automatic sharing of similar interests
This is such a retarded thing to think. Do you assume every male in the vicinity is going to have the same interests as you? Why is it different with trans girls? Just because we're natal males doesn't mean shit. I don't want to be your gamer gf or submissive housewife.
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>>8614434
>"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""straight men""""""""""""""""""""
>interested in a girl with a dick

WEW.
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>>8615009
>claims to be a woman
>spends a lot of time effort and money to look and sound like a woman
>chooses to behave as some angry man hating feminist and doesn't want to be a house wife
What's exactly the point?
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>>8615039
I mean I'd say I'm straight. Certainly don't like men but dickgirls yes.
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>>8614874
>has shitty haircut
>thousand-yard stare
>can't tell if he's having trouble growing a beard or just absolute shit at grooming himself, probably a mixture of both
>doesn't try to get gains

Chad didn't just wake up one day with a 6 pack--he worked for that shit. Some incels are genuinely hideous, but that dude isn't one of them. He just needs to put forth some effort. Working hard and trying to better themselves is something incels don't do, however. You can see it in their oily faces, greasy hair, and shitty personalities.
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>>8615039
Not that anon, but as a stealth, post transition trans woman, nobody knows until I tell them. And yet I still get hit on very, very regularly.
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>>8615085
What would you do If you went out without a man that didn't know and then after you told him you were trans and he became turned on about the thought of a woman with a penis?
Would you dump him for being a chaser?
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>>8615043
Apparently being disgusted by shitty people is considered being an angry feminist nowadays. Besides, why wouldn't I want to have my own career? It's not like I can have children. Even if my husband and I adopted I would rather work hard so I can have money for fun family outings together.
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>>8615114
First off no adoption, surrogate or wait for an artificial womb.
Second of all I hope you don't have children.
You would be a shitty fucking mother. Leaving your children with some baby sitter or even worse some libshit indoctrinating daycare center.
You're right. You don't have to worry too much about running out of time so you can work till 35 or whatever but even sperm cells degrade over time and you're giving your children less time with you or their grand kids.
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>>8615129
>or even worse some libshit indoctrinating daycare center

No offense, but I feel like she would at least be a better mother than you.
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>>8615146
Are you white?
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>>8614689
>literally negging and gaslighting on the first fucking opportunity
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>>8615186
>negging
>gaslighting

God you retards have the most annoying vocabulary
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>>8615266
He wasn't even using either of them correctly.
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>>8614794
In that scenario it would depend.

1. Are they ok with me having srs eventually

2. Do they want to do stuff to my dick?

Like if they find me having a dick hot after the fact I guess it's fine. It's just I want to know that 1. They would want me after srs and 2. They don't want me to top or let them suck.
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>>8615303
Sorta unrelated question, I can ignore having a dick but I don't think I could ever look past what a post op "vagina" actually is, If I told you I wouldn't stick my dick there, would you leave me?
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>>8615497
If we were compatible on every other level and you were willing to have anal with me, then no i would not leave on solely tbat reason. I might feel sad for a bit but i wouldn't let that stop a perfect relationship.


I would still be happy with not having to feel dysohoria with that part of my body
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>>8614244
LEAVE OUR SHEESHEES ALONE!
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>>8614434
>toxic

Fr though why you all complaining about the only people that would find you attractive? Not sure if you understand this but most men think trannies are mentally ill freaks. Beggars can't be choosers, lads.
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Of course "chasers" don't wanna stick with a tranny. Looks woman, thinks like woman, can't bear children, has either a dysfunctional cawk or a bullet wound neovagoo
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>>8616161
Aye
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>>8614374
>Usually a porn addict who has watched too much 'she-male' porn and thinks all transwomen just love to whip out the cawk.

Why aren't they gay if all they want is the 'cawk'?
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>>8614244

'cause most people want to be in a relationship with people who are interested in them for more than just them being a girl with a dick

Fetishism is fine and all if it's purely sexual, I'm not going to rub anyone's balls about having a transgirl fetish, but that doesn't make a healthy durable romantic relationship, now, does it.
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>>8617925
Because men are gross.
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>tfw I'm just a loose bisexual who likes females whether they have dicks or vaginas yet I get called a creepy monster for openly dating transwomen and ciswomen alike
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>>8618458
>Tfw you're a loose bisexual who likes females whether they have dicks of vaginas yet no woman (trans or cis) wants to date you
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>>8618507

it's because you post on 4chan
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>>8614244
Because I don't want to get with someone just for sex. I hardly even care about sex in the first place.
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>>8614354
what do you call a chaser that wants to date trans women ? thats what i am
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>>8619440
AGP
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>>8619444
whats agp
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>>8614540
>>8614553

That's stupid from a chaser's point of view, since if you get the SRS, you will gain the interest of THE REST OF HETEROSEXUAL MEN (and most lesbians)

Cut off your dick and they'll lose all interest in you, but you'll gain a whole new world.

The only one to lose here is the chaser, the dependent one is the chaser. We're 1 in 10.000, and only half of us like men. So a trans girl interested in men is like 1 in 20.000

A trans girl that has interest in men and has'nt cut her dick off is mayube 1 in 30.000 or 1 in 40.000. Chasers can be roughly 1 men in every 200.

WE are the scarce resource here, WE are the ones that should set the price.

Honestly, chasers have a whole lot to lose and a hard competition ahead if you play your cards well, girls.

Also, fuck, they can put the effort we put, and at least become phisically attractive, well dressed, and/or get a good job.

Hell, most chasers I've found are fat slobs unable to have proper hygiente, and then they become mentally abusive and blackmail us with the "don't cut your penis" thing. To hell with them, work your ass off to be worthy of us.
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>>8619745
This

Trans women are rare, horny guys are a dime a dozen. Never let a man make you feel like he's better than you.
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>>8614317
"Chasers" are to transgirls what "creeps" are to biological women. It's basically their arrogant, self absorbed way of describing men who they deem too unattractive to even breathe the same air as them. You'll notice that no woman/transgirl will ever view you like this if they're actually into you. While the ones who aren't will be the first ones to scowl at you and essentially imply that you're a potential stalker and/or sex offender just because you tried to intiate conversation with them.

So yeah, it's just your typical female hypocrisy and should be disregarded entirely.
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>>8619745
You know, I'd say you should give it another 50-100 years before you start spewing crap like this. It'd be one thing if SRS actually gave you a real, functional vagina. Unfortunately, we're not there yet though, so what you end up with is a poor fascimile of the real thing; an open wound where your junk used to be, where the closest it gets to self-lubrication is if it gets infected and starts leaking pus.

Don't go thinking that most hetero guys and lesbians would want to go anywhere near that horrific mess between your legs. You're not a scarce resource like potatoes during a potato famine. You're an apple planted in the dirt for a few months, left to slowly rot and then dug up and sold as a 'potato'. Nobody's buying that shit and it would be better off for everyone involved if you just stayed as an apple in the first place.
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I have such low self esteem and I'm so lonely I'll date literally any male who will cuddle with me
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Let me get this straight: if I only want to fuck trannies, but I don't want their cock to have any part in it, I'm not a chaser? Basically a chaser is a repressed gay? I thought it was about fetishizing and objectifying trans people.
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>>8614798
Idk, that still sounds the same to me. Dudes can just be hella gross and horny, especially when they are just trying to fuck someone they find attractive, cis or otherwise.
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>confident in their sexuality
Usually they are more neurotic than the women they chase.
>strong career
They are usually selfish, and insist they be treated like a sugar daddy, which isn't a relationship, it's purely sexual.
>able to provide
I haven't met one yet who could do male labor better than me; cis men who are purely straight, yes, they are good mates, but chasers are usually weak of mind and body, unskilled in anything useful, and a shallow comparison to the average man.
>sexually interested in you
So? Most of us don't even like sex that much. It's called "being a woman," estrogen kills the promiscuous gay sex drive.
>MTF personality means automatic sharing of similar interests
MTFs are usually more intelligent and better people than their chaser partner. The only reason one would keep their chaser is if they are compassionate, kind, and a good person. The material and social value of such a person is a non-sequitur. Transwomen want love and tenderness, mostly. They want a man who is a man, one who would be the best person a MTF could've been while repressing. Chasers on a whole are just not good people.

>>8614538
Honesty is not a chaser's strong suit. They will lie to get what they want at every turn. I have camwhored, I have had beta chaser orbiters, and they will always lie to try and get what they want.

>>8614807
It's funny because if you're a woman, you get to decide who is a creep and who is nice based of looks, status, personality, etc. How is this bad? Men just don't have standards, so they will try hard to get a 2/10 and fail, feeling like shit. If you have no standards, you can't even get an ugly girl, because you have no self esteem and confidence in your value as a person.

>>8614985
Why? Because of the dick? That's a complete turn-off.
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>>8621488
>So? Most of us don't even like sex that much. It's called "being a woman,"

This so much. Having to deal with chasers pestering me for pics or talking about how they want to rail me in the ass, literally makes me tired, like I just want to go to bed. It's such a weird phenomenon, like they're not even in the room with me and they're turning me off. I'd much rather cuddle or watch a movie or something.
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holy fuck though, this thread is toxic
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>>8621921
Chasers are toxic.
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>>8619745
>Also, fuck, they can put the effort we put, and at least become physically attractive, well dressed, and/or get a good job.
If a guy would do all that, why would he settle for a transgirl?
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>>8622275
I guess he shouldn't settle for a trans girl in the first place then.
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>>8622126
Honestly the only toxic thing here is you.

>wah I'm mentally ill and no one likes me
>but I like y-
>eww leave me alone you freakkk I'm mentally ill there is no way you like me outside of a fetish
>what are you ta-
>WAHHHH IM gonna go to /mtfg/ and talk about how I want to kill myself and how no one understands me

Kys
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>>8614968
Idk then don't ?
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>>8622296
Are people supposed to treat being trans as a neutral quality? I mean its not so bad that you should go for any uggo who shows interest but it is not a good thing to be.
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>>8621562
>I'd much rather cuddle or watch a movie or something.
Basically this. It gets said so often it might as well be the deepest, most common embedded programming of our personalities.

>>8622410
If transwomen had any pride and worked to be where they are, they don't deserve settling for shit. They should at least be able to be with someone average, not mediocre. How will anyone respect us if we have such low standards in men? The chasers won't learn that they need to work hard for us like any cis-woman, or it's not fucking worth it.
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Because like OP, chasers handle rejection poorly and often feel entitled to sex. Neither of these traits is particularly sexy
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>>8622410
Probably not, no. On the other hand, I personally do think of it that way. Just based on experiences and my own priorities. The pros and cons pretty much balance out.
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k so how does this make sense at all, if you are a dude and you decide you want to bang a trans if you specifically go to do that the trans woman in question will label you a "chaser" which if im understanding correctly is synonymous with creep

am i missing something or is this actually just incredibly retarded?
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This thread fills me with rage I didn't anticipate. Dudes sounding like they are at a god damn meat market or some shit, giving zero shits as to what women actually want.
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>>8614244
Probably because the chasers themselves are garbage, and think that trans women have to take what they get.

If you want trans women to be attracted to you, you need to make yourself the type of men they'll be attracted to. You know, put forth enough effort that you're worth settling for.

But you won't, so you stay a disgusting chaser, emphasis on the "disgusting."
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So I have a non-cis girlfriend, and I knew that she was how she was biologically from the start, and just went in trying to make her happy above all else. Eventually she gave me a chance, and now we're together.

Hearing things about SRS, and how it's effectively a life long commitment to dealing with pain and rejection (via dialation), I don't want her to go through with it, and would rather her just keep the penis, and do nothing with it. I have no interest in it, except for lamenting not being able to reward her with oral, as in like how I would a cis woman.

Am I still technically a chaser?
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>>8624985
>Hearing things about SRS, and how it's effectively a life long commitment to dealing with pain and rejection (via dialation)
You're retarded, do her a favor and leave.
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>>8625292
Don't listen to the autistic tranny - SRS isn't for everybody
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>>8625292
Lmao I'm mtf and that's how I feel. However much I hate the genitilia I'm stuck with, SRS is just so shitty and awful right now that I have zero interest. Maybe by the time I'm 40 or 50 it won't be the most horrible, disgusting medical procedure there is.

Until they can just implant a stem cell vagina inside me, I have no interest.
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I have no interest in your cock. none whatsoever.

I just want you to suck my dick and swallow my seed.
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>>8625847
What a selfish cunt.
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>>8625932
Unless your willing to let me fuck your ass so be both get off thats how it is.
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I have been attracted to trans girls here and there, not something i'm obsessed with.I can be attracted to them as well as cis girls and boys. A girl with a penis is not a girl with a vagina. They are just different in that way. You can be attracted to both.

although desu full blown boobs paired with a dick kind of turns me off
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>>8614244
>>strong career
>>able to provide

ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha aaaaaah!
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>>8614354
Objectively not true
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Basically an ugly creature thinks that they deserve better. Just kys, trannies
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>>8619466
It's one of Blanchard's two types of trans women. HSTS for HomoSexualTransSexual and AGP for AutoGynePhilia. If you want more details, Google it.
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