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Of there was a pill that perfectly suppressed your dysphoria,

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Of there was a pill that perfectly suppressed your dysphoria, would you still transition or live life cis?
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>>8612760
trans because the brain's more important than body imo
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A "pill to suppress dysphoria" is simply a variation of nozick's experience machine. Happiness - or at least euthymia - in a pill, and it would be far from only marketed to transgenders. Oh, everyone would be on the shit, but I digress. This question has been posed endless times to trans, and it suffers all the same flaws as the original Experience Machine thought dilemma. Do you want to live in an artificial simulation where everything is happy but bullshit, or do you want to live in the real world where you have to deal with the cruel, ugly, oftentimes hateful reality but still experience your dreams and who you are as a person without suppressing every instance of pain in your life? Many on antidepressants complain about feeling emotionally blunted over time. Perhaps this is not just a cruel side effect but the reality of using an artificial method to achieve euthymia over the long-term. It just can't match up to actually being happy.

Most people would plug into choice A, because they want to be hedonists. But I believe many among them will not enjoy true hedonism when they have it as a reality. Nor will I believe that most transgenders would be happy over the long term if they "plugged in".
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>>8612760
>still transition
>still
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>>8612816
the matrix was written by a tranny so it checks out
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>>8612872
>a tranny
>a
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>>8612760
oh look it's this thread again
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>>8612816
>Do you want to live in an artificial simulation where everything is happy but bullshit, or do you want to live in the real world where you have to deal with the cruel, ugly, oftentimes hateful reality
But dysphoria isn't all of reality. Ceasing to experience it isn't entering a simulated reality where nothing's real.

We can argue what dysphoria actually means and the philosophy of it being magically suppressed, but whatever it is and means, it's short of what the experience machine is about.
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>>8612760
Yeah I would anon, I think my dysphoria is in a weird place at the minute but I have pretty good male genetics and would actually have the slightest chance if looking good if I didn't transition

Ohh I hate being this way.
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>>8612760
It wouldn't be possible. The amount of modifications to your brain would render you a completely different personality. It would be like megadosing on antipsychotics x1000
Might as well get a lobotomy.
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What happens if I do both? Is it too much to us for both?
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>>8615787
THIS.

"curing agp/trans/dysphoria" can only be compared to lobotomizing a patient.
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>>8612760
This is my dream. I would love a cure.

>>8612816
I'd rather the artificial reality where everything is happy but bullshit, because right now I live in the reality where everything is dysphoria but bullshit. Repression sucks, but it's better than being a tranny.


I'm fine experiencing pain. I just don't want this level of pain anymore. It's too much for a girl like me that will never be able to transition.
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>>8615787
All you'd have to do is suppress the neuropeptides that causes dysphoria, and leave the rest alone. You wouldn't need to do anything else. Just remove the feeling of dypshoria.
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>>8612816
I think what anon is trying to say is the dysphoria has informed your thoughts. It is a part of you. Therefore if you were to be cleared of it, it would be a false version of you. I am (sadly) apt to agree. This malady is crippling, but it has made me the thoughtful, kind, sensitive person I am. I highly value those traits. I don't know that without the social hinderances I wouldn't have turned out more greedy, shallow, or just dumb like the less troubled have. I'm still transphobic and self-defeated but I would not take the pill.
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>>8615852
Doubtful. Your brain prunes synapses, it doesn't gain them. As your brain prunes it will increase dysphoria.
The only way to remove dysphoria is to reverse pruning then redo it in another format. You'd end up a completely different person. That's basic neurology. Humans evolve intelligence and personality via pruning and synapses voltage weights. Either prune the synapse or raise/lower the voltage of the synapse.
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>>8613117
>But dysphoria isn't all of reality

To the person that experiences it, it is.

>Ceasing to experience it isn't entering a simulated reality where nothing's real.

It is an artificial reality, where *certain elements* are simulated. You completely disregarded my point about long term antidepressant use and emotional blunting for a reason, I think.
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