Pride; Yay or Nay?

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>>8612371
wtf gays are literally the cops now.

I think pride is shallow and stupid and just another tool the 'the system' uses to control you and sell you stuff. gays went from being counterculture to being obnoxious consumerist politically correct normies.

>>8612371
Pride parades are responsible for reinforcing the stereotypes of hypersexuality and effeminacy in all gays.
These stereotypes are responsible for around 80% of all homophobia in the modern western world, and ~99% of faghaggotry and "lol look at my GAY friend" cases.
Pride parades harm more than they could ever help.

>inb4 look at mardi gras
Pull your heads out of your arses, burgers. Mardi gras parades are almost entirely american; we just make pancakes over here.

>>8612371
ideally, pride wouldn't exist, as individuals should not be required to 'prove' anything to society or to an arbitrary 'community' based on gender/sexuality

>>8612371
It's fun. Nobody itt with negative opinions has either a. Been to pride or is b. Someone who can actually enjoy social events.

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A vocal minority of degenerate scum ruining everything for people who are just trying to fit in and like a normal life.

>>8612592
>He thinks if everyone thought gays we're normal he'd fit in
HAHAHAHAHAHA HAAHHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

I think it's fucking disgusting and it makes me feel embarrassed.

>>8612573
not true, degenerate. Get your sex festival out of my city

>>8612610
>Sex festival
Idk what your city is, but in all the ones I've been to pride it's pretty tame. Maybe you shouldn't live in such a degenerate town.

>>8612371
Good idea in theory
bad in practice.

>>8612573
I've actually been to a Pride event in my local city and I disliked it. I found it way to sexual, and it made me very uncomfortable.

>>8612709
a pride parade celebrating sexuality was sexual? you don't say!

>think they do a poor job of making LGBT people seem like normal members of society

The point is to celebrate the differences not blend in. We're not normal members of society by definition and never will be, we're a minority. Gay pride is represented by rainbows which are a bunch of bright loud colors coming together to create a beautiful thing. That's the point.

>I also think its kinda dumb to be proud of something you couldn't control

I'm proud to be an American but I didn't choose to be born here.

>>8612965
feels weird having your identity abstracted and dumped together with a bunch of degenerates and disgusting normies into the same marketing demographic. I guess I just suffer from pathological individualism and i feel compelled to be a bitter contrarian fuck all the time.

>first it's about degeneracy and attacking the norm which I can get behind because the power of raw human nature is insane

>now it's about companies selling shit to you

Pride was a good cause until the last couple of years (probably around the time the plus was introduced to LGBT)

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>>8612371
Makes us look like freaks. No wonder why hetrosexual America is repulsed.

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>>8612371
They can be fun. Lately we've got BLM being party poopers though.

t. Toronto

>>8613142
This is the oldest meme. Heterosexual America was homophobic long before Pride, numbnuts. You have no idea how lucky you are and how many freaks risked themselves so you could live free.

1) Parades in general are stupid and a waste of time. Stand outside and sweat/freeze your ovaries off and watch people walk around WHY?
2) Parades are from the early 20th century or maybe late 19th or something when people never had much to do so they went outside and walked around for fun.
3) Gay pride parades are no exception but people still pretend to like them because they want to seem supportive of """"gay pride"""".
4) Straight people and bisexual women get to oversex on mardi gras so lets not pretend acting like oversexed idiots in public belongs to lgbt come on.


My 2c.

>>8613182

Freaks may have risked their lives but the freaks in >>8613142 certainly didn't. And really, did they risk their lives for me, or for themselves? They don't know me. Food for thought.

>>8613200
You are an individuaist, and I respect that, but you are a part of our freaky collective whether you like it or not (otherwise youd not be here talking to me) and those freaks in that photo look to me like they're willing to stand for our collective right to kiss other boys in public and stuff

>>8613206

I am female so I can already kiss boys for free. Also in terms of rights, PDA is kinda meh. If they are risking their lives for my right to PDA then maybe they can try risking their lives to help buy my groceries and rent. Until then I don't buy this "collective" stuff.

I used to like them but after going a couple times and getting used to being out (and subsequently going back into the closet cause I'm a passing tranny lol) i find them a lot less interesting. It's just a lot of places to buy things with rainbows on them in my experience

>>8612371
I think people should do whatever they want as long as they aren't actually hurting someone else.
I don't care what stupid people think, and you have to be stupid to assume that what random people are doing in a parade is representative of an entire group of people.
If you are an intelligent straight person and have normal gay friends, then you won't change your mind because some guy in a parade walks past you with a dildo stuck to his head. You won't suddenly get confused and forget all the time you've spent with your friend and believe that guy represents anything but himself.
It's only the ignorant people who already judged all fags as being degenerates and never bothered to question their own preconceived bigotry who will look at a pride parade and use it as justification. And even if the parade was just a bunch of normal boring ordinary homos walking down the street they would still be bitching about them "shoving it in everyone's face". Which is exactly the whole fucking reason pride parades are so fucking crazy to begin with, because it does not fucking matter. You are dammed if you do, damned if you don't, so if you are damned no matter what then you might as well have fun.

>>8613240
>I am female so I can already kiss boys for free
Girls then

>PDA is kinda meh
You say that now but the right to go about with your "significant other" in what heterosexuals will see as a "Freaky" relationship and not have to worry about being harassed with nowhere to turn for help is an important right that most lgbt just dont enjoy

>>8613270

Being able to live without worrying about running out of money is also a pretty cool right and more worth risking your life for IMHO.

>>8613240
Gays and trans people got murdered with relative impunity in our lifetimes.

>>8613286

OK. Still don't buy the "collective" shit until you are willing to actually pay for my groceries, rent and medical bills.

>>8612371
Absolutely yes minus the nudity and sexualization. Wonderful place to showcase gay families and there will be so many more families in the next 10-20 years if will hopefully voluntarily cull some of th sex and nudity elements. Those don't really apply to smaller cities and towns that do a pride parade though.

>>8612437
Freedom to assemble as a group where it is visible that we are different, whereas normally it isn't, is important. Ideally there would be less sexualization and corporate speedo models shilling liquor, but that will definitely change now that we have the right to adopt and hire surrogates in more places.

>>8613306
>Wonderful place to showcase gay families

rare footage of some gays 'showcasing' their family. they sell the kid to the highest bidder after the parade. Just a gay tradition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3adatEVSL9M

I'm far too much of a puritan to enjoy such things.

>>8613318
a jolly old gay tradition. fascinating people those gays. I, for one, feel culturally enriched by this wonderful and vibrant community.

>>8612371
If anyone does anything remotely degenerate at pride, he deserves to get shot okay ? And those who didn't stop him deserve a tremendous amount of pain and suffering. They single-handedly do much more to make people hate us than any average homophobe. Those who partake in public degeneracy are murderers, and they must be treated accordingly, they are responsible for so much wrong. That sums up my thoughts about it.

>>8613445
What an embarrassing display of histrionics.

>>8613297
>minority gets persecuted
>doesn't have common interest in working together until it treats me like its dependent/like it's a socialist nation

>>8613469
How is it too emotional or dramatic ? What I said is true.

>>8613475

A family is a collective. They care and look out for each other no matter what, up to helping with groceries or a roof over their heads. Same with close friends or lovers.

>>8613142 those guys don't know me or give a shit about me. They might fight for my ability to PDA (a right I barely care about) but only because its tangential to their own rights. Not the same thing.

>>8613487
truly histrionic.

I'm not going to waste time explaining how the blue sky is blue or how water is wet. If you can't see how calling for people to be murdered because they dare to go against the outdated arbitrary morals of a puritan society is overly emotional and dramatic, then you are too delusional to understand even basic logic.
But I think it's hilarious how you are making a fool of yourself trying to champion the moral fortitude, or whatever, of a society that you obviously can not even function in.

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>>8613318

That's more likely an already fem gay kid than about having gay parents.

>>8613547
so let me get this straight, do gays think some kids are born sluts?

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>>8613496
>A family is a collective. They care and look out for each other no matter what

>>8613496
>A family is a collective.
There are looser communities, like nations/states. Except under socialism the nation doesn't treat you like family but it still protects you from persecution as part of its role of looking out for the common interest of its members.

Do you not care for your nation because it isn't socialist, housing and feeding you?

>those guys don't know me or give a shit about me.
They care about all LGBT people without knowing you personally.

>They might fight for my ability to PDA (a right I barely care about)
They fight for more than that >>8613286

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>>8613547
or maybe the kid's virtue signalling leftist parents are just exploiting him for social capital. You know that thing happens. gay children are a hot commodity right now. tv appearances, making the other yuppies jealous , buzzfeed features, book deals, maybe an upcoming show on TLC, who knows?

https://raisingmyrainbow.com/about/

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>>8613554
>he thinks femininity = sluttiness

calling dr. freud

>>8613587

>Do you not care for your nation because it isn't socialist, housing and feeding you?

I am not going to pretend my nation is a collective or that random people in the USA are dying "for me" or care "about me" on the fact that we are both American.

>They care about all LGBT people without knowing you personally.

So if I was having trouble paying for groceries they would feed me, because I am lgbt? Doubtful. They don't know me and I don't know them. That's all there is to it.

>>8613591
so it's just natural for prepubescent boys to 'twerk' in public for no reason? i think you are the one equivocating feminity with sluttiness. If that was a little girl, or even a 17 year 364 day old girls you progs would be horrified.

>>8613609
Oh I'm horrified by the twerking, but only because I hate how trashy black culture has infected the main-stream.
But back when I was a kid we were all trying to moon-walk, and when my parents were kids they were all freaking out over Elvis's pelvis, and people like you have always been there the whole time making a big deal about little innocent kids doing weird things because you think everything is sexual.
You need therapy.

>>8613631

Different anon but twerking is sexual sorry. I dont think everything is sexual, like I wouldn't gaf if some kid was dancing macarena or ballet or whatever, but tweking is sexual. Get over it and stop teaching little boys to twerk for you.

>>8613603
I feel you're deliberately ignoring my point no matter how I try to explain it.

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>>8613638
Different anon but won't somebody please think about the children!?
THEY ARE DANCING! WHAT WOULD BABY JESUS SAY!???

>>8613631
>driving the kid to the sex parade
>dressing him up like a jr twink rent boy with skimpy shorts, whore make up and all


hey it's not MY fault if the kid starts twerking. Could a normal 9 year old come up with such things on his own?

>>8613643
'just think of the children' is a reasonable concern. the left has been trying to normalise pedophilia for decades.

>>8613530
Not all morals are arbitrary you fool...

>>8613657
>Black Lives Matter is a legitimate movement. the right has been trying to normalize genocide for decades.

saying stupid bullshit is fun

>>8613665
>...AND I WANT ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME TO BE SHOT AND KILLED IN COLD BLOOOOODDD!!!!

histrionics

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>>8613275
Unless you're planning on producing your own food, you will need something to trade for your food... you don't expect to just be given a free lunch, do you Anon?

>>8613674
Are you a nihilist ?

>>8613703
I'm a sane human being who does not advocate the murder of innocent people.

Went to pride once. Was disgusted by it, never going back.

>>8613698
i will support the communist revolution when its time, but in the meantime you won't see me at any corny Lockheed-Martin sponsored parade full of fatass gross dudes in leather and liberal families virtue signalling and staring at the gays like they were zoo animals

>>8613712
>innocent
We must not be talking about the same people.

>>8613731
We are. You're just psychotic so you have a distorted view of reality.

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>>8613725
No one likes a sassy comrade.

Pride parade can be fun and you can meet class-conscious qt3.14's.

Pride promotes the idea that being LGBT isn't normal. Being LGBT is nothing to be proud of and those gays who think so are just trying to cling on to the only piece of personality they will ever have in their boring lives.

>>8613749
No no. What do people bring up when you ask why they hate us ? Several things, among which are degenerate pride parades.

>>8612371
I'm a straight cis man. Your average american guy. I usually don't hate people unless I have a good reason to, but these pride parade things really disgust me. I could not care less what you guys do in your bedrooms, but when you take that kind of shit to the streets it bothers me a lot. Every person I have talked about this with IRL feels the same way. This includes a few gay and bisexual people.

It needs to stop.

>>8613775
I'll have to take your word for that. I don't waste my time asking idiots why they hate me.
You, apparently, are so obsessed with getting bigoted idiots to like you that you are advocating the murder of your own "community" just to try and impress them.
You're pathetic. If anyone deserves death it's you.

>>8613749
>>8613780
See ? Straight people agree with me. They have every right to be disgusted. It's time to stop, with violence if need be.

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>>8613780
How do you feel about mardi gras?

>>8613780
>I could not care less what you guys do in your bedrooms
oh look this again.

>>8613809
embarrassing histrionic psychotic

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>>8613818
the modern world is hell.

>>8613808
Sorry but people who go around almost naked acting like the perverts they are never were my community. It is them who betrayed me, not the other way around. Also I'm not trying to impress anyone. Those who hate even gays that don't act bad, I'm their enemy as well.
Go on, try to kill me, I'm waiting for you. I have many enemies, one more or less isn't important.

>>8613840
embarrassing histrionic psychotic

>>8613846
If you want...