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Gay male dating culture?

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Just a couple of wonderings from a bi girl about some aspects of dating for gay men. Hope that's okay, please don't feel like I see you as a curiosity to poke at.

Women can get a lot of creepy messages from certain guys. Ones that start of nice but can quickly turn to rape threats. Have any of you ever experienced that? Does it ever happen to "tops" or "masculine" or largely built men or only to more "feminine" "bottoms"? And same for who send these types of messages.

In straight dating culture men are normally the ones to instigate any relationship, have you seen any parallels to this in your experience?

Any lastly do you get a bunch of cheesy pick up lines as well? I hate puns with a passion and everything about them seem so fake and forced.
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>>8595561
Guys usually don't do pickup lines, it's mostly pretty casual chat. Usually guys on dating sites will just send a message with some indication they read your profile but it's nothing like how straight girls expect to get swept off their feet within a single sentence.

Guys often send me pretty creepy messages, I don't know about other people lol
I've had guys send dick pics without even saying hello. I've had guys say stuff like "I bet you have a nice butthole" or "mmmmm ur yummy I wanna lick dat butthole" and things like that.
I've also had guys message asking if they could pee on me before they've even said hello....

I haven't had many threats, but then again I block people pretty quick. Usually it's pretty obvious when they're a creeper cause unlike with girls I think gay dudes skip the smalltalk and get straight to the creepy talk.
It's hardly uncommon for guys to start talking sex and which fetishes they're into within like an hour of first meeting them or first messaging on dating sites.
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>>8595561
I would have to say that cheesy pickup lines work on me if the guy is attractive, which I have heard has been known to happen. I'm told.
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>>8595561
Bisexual guy here. Gay men interested in you at a gay bar can be very pushy, and yes it can escalate to rape threats. They can be just as pushy as any straight man, I would imagine.

For that matter, straight women can be very pushy, though they are less physically threatening than a horny bear for example, they do often fail to take 'no' for an answer and just don't seem to undertand how seriously twisted it is to just suddenly grab a person's crotch and squeeze as a means of seduction.
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>>8595622
>suddenly grab a person's crotch and squeeze

can confirm this happens a lot
men know what they want and they go after it.
you learn to grab their wrists and pull them away.
my handgrip has increased tenfold since i started going to gay clubs.
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>>8595622
Yeah gay bars are a whole other story than online dating. Guys are really gropey and pushy in bars.
I generally try and stay away from gay bars nowadays though. There's a few social group like things in my city that seem to be a lot better.
I hate when guys just come up behind you and grab your ass and stuff. It's pretty annoying. They also just reach under your clothes like it's no big deal.
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>>8595639
I was actually talking about straight women in the second paragraph but yeah gay men are more likely to do that
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I've had someone make numerous accounts to talk to me because I keep blocking them. Not aggressive or threatening, just weird.

Then I did Have one guy who made a new profile after I blocked him telling me to watch out and he was coming for me or some shit. That was years ago and he hasn't come for me yet. So I guess he's not coming or he's playing the v. Long game
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>>8595655
I understand what you mean, a lot of women are taught they are entitled to grope men and have them be grateful. And actually I think it happens between straight women as well.
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>>8595669
definitely, at my workplace the women grope each other's tits or smack each other on the ass, usually when a guy is in the room of course

also it is usually the middle-aged bitchy fat women fondling the qt young sweethearts
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>>8595660
>>8595598
>>8595622
>>8595652
Ugh, I know how some people can be so confident behind a screen but I'm surprised it happens at bars just as much. Do you think there is a difference in how security treats harassment in gay bars to others? I'm not a barfly so I wouldn't know about either.
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>>8595693
There's usually bouncers at every bar but it's not like it helps that much.
It's not very noticeable stuff.
Like I've had guys just come up and grab me but if you didn't know any differently you'd think they were just a friend

But gay bars are mostly just for casual sex so it's what you expect. There are usually lgbt social groups that people go to for dating. Or most just use online dating.
Helps to be able to block people lol
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>22 gay (possibly bi but whatever) male
>virgin
>never been in a relationship

How do you guys flirt??? I'm so incredibly awkward, and I just don't know how to do it. I'm a pretty tall and skinny guy so I feel at times I just exuberate uncomfortable/awkward. I don't think I'm socially inept, I just feel as though I'm absolutely terrible in the spheres of romance and love.

I can make friends with anyone, but the minute the environment turns romantic, I stutter, am awkward and can't find the words. I feel like I should have learned these things when I was younger and I missed my opportunity.

Any advice for this string bean of a human?
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>>8596832
You sound really cute. Don't try to force yourself to stop being nervous and awkward with romance! You're still young after all, and some people find innocence very attractive. I have a feeling I'd get a total crush on you.
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>>8596832
>How do you guys flirt?
liquid courage, to be honest
Thankfully most guys approach me first.

Do you have any diagnosed anxiety?
Social skills tend to get easier with practice.
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