Chaser here with a question. Why are other chasers and people

>>8594269
>Why not just be full blown gay?
because men aren't attractive your retard
that being said i hate cock hungry goblins who share a sexuality with me

>>8594269
if you're not into cock then why be a chaser?
why not just date cis women?
>inb4 men have better personalities and vidya lmao!

you're gay and you just can't admit it to yourself.

>>8594309
>if you're not into cock then why be a chaser?

Easy. It stems from a feminization/degradation fetish. I'm not gay.

>>8594269
I read something about it being related to men being stimulated when they see a penis near a woman. Sounds pretty reasonable.

>>8594269
Cause it's kind of like repressed homosexual urges. They don't feel as bad about doing gay stuff when it's attached to someone that looks essentially female.
It's basically mental gymnastics for your sexuality.

Most likely unless at some point in their life they just crack and accept they're bi or whatever they'll continue to just want to suck shemale dick.
It's similar to "straight" guys that have sex with other guys. They use whatever reasoning they can to work out how to make gay sex not be gay such as no kissing, no cuddling, no eye contact, etc.

>>8594274
maybe they just wanna feel dominant over failed males

>>8594584
And they do that by being submissive little bitches that want to suck cock and get fucked in the ass by shemales?
That's an odd way to "feel dominant" lmao

It's literally just a form of repressed homosexuality.

>>8594590
oh wait replied to the wrong one

i was talking about the ones that wanna fuck them aggressively and degrade them etc

>>8594269
>needs to use elbow to hide both tits
>when she doesn't even have tits
>can't properly hide dick
fail

>>8594605
I think that's actually just a chinese crossdressor, I've seen his twitter before

>>8594584
Pretty much what I'm into. I don't want to be fucked by or suck the dick of a mtf. It doesn't gross me out, but I'm just not into it.

>>8594269
Why not just be hetero??

>>8594622
can u tell more about how u feel about fucking trans girls

like what do u think about them

>>8594679
I think they represent the peak of submissiveness, a man so broken that he is now a woman, and so lost that he actually enjoys the idea of being one and no longer has any essence of maleness remaining. Of course, this only applies to the really submissive ones that like to be dominated.

And this isn't to say I disrespect them in any way- domination and submission is not about respect and disrespect, it's about knowing one's place in the hierarchy of things. They've accepted their place of submission far more than any woman ever could. They also tend to be far more open-minded about how much they want to be dominated than natural women- they know what they want and are not afraid to mention it, because they're already a walking example of something society generally despises, so what's a little honesty in the bedroom compared to that. Or at least that's my experience, ymmv depending on what fetishes you're into, how you view yourself, and what you want out of a partner.

>>8594718
tru

im 5'2 and my masochistic/sub/degradee tendencies skyrocketed on hrt desu and they were already very high before that

>>8594718
as a trans sub i agree and also this turns me on

>>8594723
Pretty much what I've noticed. I've also noted that shorter mtfs or the ones that have smaller cocks are the ones that tend to be more likely to fall into the super submissive camp that are fun to dominate. Taller or more masculine in general mtfs tend to have more insecurity and can't give in to their desires because they've got some level of self-loathing about not being feminine enough (though this is not always the case, and they can be fine too- as a guy that is into domination, it's less about what you look like and more about your actions and headspace).

>>8594718
That's pretty hot.
But I still think relationships overall need to be more equal. Sex fantasies like that turn me on a ton but I still prefer being treated normally otherwise.

>>8594848
I mean, obviously when I'm not in the bedroom I treat them equally. This is specifically in reference to the sex side of things, I am not into 24/7 lifestyle S&M, that's just too extreme for me. Outside of the bedroom it's all cuddles and Netflix, nice dinners out and traveling. What attracts me to mtfs initially is sexual, just as what attracts me to women is initially sexual, but life isn't 24/7 sex, building a strong relationship for the 20+ hours of the day you're not banging is important.

>>8594718
> a man so broken that he is now a woman

T R I G G E R E D

>>8594902

What's funny is that manny mtfs are triggered by this sort of thing, but there's actually a good number that are into it, as noted by
>>8594896
>>8594725
>>8594723

>Why not just full blown gay
We're basically fags that like the female form. Trans girls have the best of both worlds. A twinky enough guy that crossdresses is also acceptable, however imo.

>>8594910
im >>8594723

it in a way triggers me but if its just "he" initially but now im a she so its okay?

>>8594910
I'm not an mtf I'm a cis woman
I just thought it was funny that you think a broken man is somehow equal to a woman

>>8594910
>>8594941
i like it because it's true. sorry anon...

>>8594269
For me, it's hot that it's a woman with a cock. The role reversal of a woman who can fuck you is incredibly hot (my personal interest in transwomen arose from an interest in femdom but has since become its own thing). It's also something different but familiar, which is inherently interesting.

Question for you, OP: If you're attracted to femininity but have no interest in her having a penis . . . why not just fuck cis women? What's the point of seeing transwomen but not engaging with what makes them trans in the first place? If all you're doing is topping and not interacting with her penis in anyway then all you're experiencing is a woman with one less hole. I posit that you actually are interested in them having a cock but you can't admit it because "muh heterosexuality".

>>8594941
Actually I said that they're even further down the degradation scale than a broken woman, because so much of being a man is centered around masculinity. A woman that is submissive is giving into her nature, a man that is submissive is going against it, which adds more depth to it.

>>8594926
I refer to them as "she" and think of them as female, they just started off as a "he." They're not men anymore in any respect that matters.

>>8594966
Fair enough

>>8594966
i like to think i'm level with a broken woman but lower than a woman who isn't

>>8594269
It might come as a shock, but a good portion of gay men like dicks.

Someone cute with a dick sounds pretty nice.

>>8594988
chasers into sucking dicks and getting fucked tend to still claim to be straight though

>>8594578
>no kissing, no cuddling, no eye contact
and plenty of gays are not into that :/

>>8594965
im trans and i actually dont want to do anything w my dick

so yes you either fuck me in the ass or face thats all at least for now

>>8594998
Not always for the same reason. Some gay dudes might not want kissing/cuddling during casual sex because they don't want guys to get attached. It's not because they're scared of it being gay.
"Straight" dudes usually have a bunch of weird clauses and insecurities if anything "too gay" occurs during gay sex. It's easy to tell when guys are trying to make their homolust somehow less gay despite it clearly being gay as fuck.

>>8594992
Eh, they're not gay, they're more bi/in-between. There is a psychological reason men enjoy the sight of a penis on a woman that is rooted in evolutionary adaptations we don't fully understand, but for whatever reason penis+woman=horny for a good portion of the male population, whether she has the penis or is getting fucked by it. So they're not gay, per se, because they're not into just dudes. But they take it farther than most guys by being fascinated by wanting to interact with the cock, so they're at least bi.

>>8595014
this is an interesting opinion

but what about those who end up in a relationship with a trans girl and he gets to know that shes trans later but hes ok with it as long as he knows as little about me having a dick

>>8595014
I dunno, most guys that want to get fucked by shemales seem way way different than the guys that just want to dominate and fuck a transgirl and don't actually care much about their dick.
Like the guys interested in sucking dicks/getting fucked are pretty intense about their dick-lust. Like it's usually more so than most gay guys I know. Actually a lot of gay guys don't even like how so many people are obsessed with dick pics and stuff. The chasers into getting fucked are on like a whole other level when it comes to their obsession.

>>8595012
>im trans and i actually dont want to do anything w my dick

You're not every transwoman. There are feminine transwomen who are exclusively tops outside of porn, though they are a minority (at least in the west, Latin and Asian transwomen tops seems more common).

>>8595012
>so yes you either fuck me in the ass or face thats all at least for now

Well, then I probably wouldn't find you very interesting. You're basically the trans equivalent of a starfish or a pillow princess. That said, it takes all sorts. IMO, both being versatile is the best.

>>8595033
Well, those guys are likely in the "bi or gay but need some feminine involvement to make it okay," similar to guys that say they're straight but are into being forced to do gay shit by female dommes. They want the cock, but they've got the mental barrier of considering themselves straight. This is also why they're generally repulsive- they're not okay with themselves, and thus can't really be in a meaningful relationship and can only just be into sex, and only the sex that is the way they imagine it. As a male who is secure in his masculinity (and that knows it's okay to not always be masculine) they disgust me. I mean, I'm not into trans girls' dicks, but if you're going to be into them, at least be honest about it.
>>8595021
Those are straight guys that are kind of in a distressing situation, as they actually want a woman but are instead with a guy that has transitioned, which is not what they wanted for any number of reasons, both psychosocial and biological. Some are okay with it and deal just fine, some are going to be in for a lifetime of cognitive dissonance. Others might have been bi all along, so it just works.

>>8595039
I get the opinion, as if you're not really into the psychological aspect of it, a mtf that doesn't want you to touch her dick actually offers less than a regular woman so far as variety is concerned. But if you're into the psychological aspect of things, avoiding the penis makes it even better.

>>8595084
ye i can agree avoiding my dick is the best thing for every1 involved

>>8595084
>avoiding the penis makes it even better

Sounds really boring desu. Just accept what you have between your legs - you will never have a vagina; the most you can have is a weird-looking, non-lubricating, never-fully-healing wound between your legs which is absolutely NOT a pussy. Far better to say, "y'know what, I'm a woman with cock".There's a reason trans suicide rates shoot up post-op: you can never and will never have a pussy. The sooner you accept that, the better.

>>8595126
It's difficult to stay hard while topping.
Sticking a vibe on my dick feels good though. I highly doubt I could stay hard long enough to top though.

>>8595126
I'm a man that likes to bang girls with dicks but doesn't want anything to do with their dicks. I really should've tripcoded in this thread to make things more clear. If they wanted me to get really involved with it, it wouldn't be a hard no but it'd be a turn off.

>>8595145
Viagra.

/end

>>8595200
I'm not taking viagra.... I'm not a shemale pornstar. Plus I've heard viagra and cialis can make the veins in your penis look distended similar to what penis pumps do.
Besides they won't force arousal. What if I have no fantasies of topping? I just don't think fucking a dude is all that sexy.

>>8595145
Try nipple stimulation, particularly if your partner is doing it, it can get you hard again.
>>8595200
Avoid unless absolutely necessary. Overuse can render you completely impotent.

>>8595227
If you aren't into it, don't do it. Find a guy that'll just fuck the shit out of you like you want.

>>8595244
>Avoid unless absolutely necessary. Overuse can render you completely impotent.
Not to mention the awkward doctors conversation asking for viagra because the hrt your doctor prescribed killed your dick lol
Depending on where you live would hardly surprise me if some doctors would take away your hrt for asking that

>>8594269
>tfw my body looks like this but thicker thighs

>>8595295
Good for you.

>>8595295
Get some breasts and you're all set

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>>8595349
How so? Look at that ribcage, those hands, and those shoulders. :(

>>8595359
Growing some atm, but they're tiny and super far apart.

>>8595398
Eh, worst case you could do implants. As a guy, I think a body like that is fine.

>>8595398
Well it's bad if you want to be a female but it's good if you want to be a delicate guy that several guys would like to put their dicks on.

>>8595413
>delicate guy that several guys would like to put their dicks on.
I'm basically hoping this is what I can achieve in life.... at least for the time being anyway....

Desperately hoping I can just become a girl cyborg or something in the future lol

>>8594269

How does a guy even end up with a waist like this?

because i want that

>>8595428
>be skinny
>be asian

>>8595428
Just gotta go full Mr. Skeleton. Without some ass it just isn't a great body type, with ass and tits it's perfect.

>>8595435

Well, I have the skinny part down. Still, my own hip-waist ratio isn't quite that dramatic.

>>8595483

Would building one's ass and things with squats and the like significantly help to achieve that physique?

>>8594966
>a man that is submissive is going against it, which adds more depth to it
What if I've always been submissive to men and have never known anything else? (mtf)

>>8595495
Definitely. Look at his thighs. Slender, but very fit.

>>8595495
>Would building one's ass and things with squats and the like significantly help to achieve that physique?
If you're on HRT maybe. If not your muscle wouldn't really have that cushy fat layer to smooth things out

>>8594718
im so fucking horny after reading this

>>8595497
Perfectly fine, in my opinion. You were wired to be that way and I think it's hot regardless.

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>>8595614
Well I'm glad you approve!

>>8595499

looks like i have to stop skipping hips and thighs day

>>8595516

So is the guy in the OP image just... lucky? He certainly doesn't look like he's on hormones.

>>8595689
>So is the guy in the OP image just... lucky? He certainly doesn't look like he's on hormones.
Yeah he's not hrt if I remember right. I saw someone post his twitter a long time ago.
He doesn't exercise or anything, just asian genes.

>>8595689
He also has no ass and curves. He's pure hungry skeleton mode, which guys that are into girls will not find as attractive as something with an ass, hips, and some tits.

>>8594718
>I think they represent the peak of submissiveness, a man so broken that he is now a woman, and so lost that he actually enjoys the idea of being one and no longer has any essence of maleness remaining.
>implying being a woman is worse than being a man
reeeeeeee check ur privilege
In all seriousness though, I feel like I became both more dominant and both submissive personality-wise since I started transition.
Maybe I got a superiority complex over the idea of being perceived as pretty and feminine (while still having my masculine brain), idk. At the same time, im kind of shy and submissive.
Prolly because I'm bisexual AGP scum, so I'm not as compelled with being as feminine as I can.

>>8595713

I'm a guy who's into girls (among others), and I want to plow him as much as I want to be plowed by him.

he's very cute

You're right, he's definitely skinny, but not skinny enough to have that unappealing anorexic look. He just looks small and delicate.

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>>8595768
>I'm bisexual AGP scum

Just how hairy are you?

>>8595813
I shave my legs and arms every day, and the rest of my body every other day.
Why is it a meme that agp's are hairy and unpassable?

>>8595874
I'm not sure.
I just find it very sexy.

>>8594269
>>Why are other chasers and people interested in transgirls always fascinated by their dick?
It's the combination of feminine features and a dick. It's somehow so wrong and so right at the same time. But maybe it's the AGP in me. I usually prefer seeing them do anal stuff in porn instead of jacking off.

>>8595894
You like hairy transgirls?

>>8595964
Most people don't, but there's a fetish for everything.

>>8595964
Yes

>>8595768
Hey, I'm not saying they all do. But the majority of them that are into guys are submissive AF, they're great.

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>>8595768
I didn't get more or less dominant or submissive. Well, maybe a bit more submissive desu. But more interestingly my dom/sub nature changed. Instead of wanting to rough up a pretty girl, I want to mommy somebody and gentle tease them. Instead of wanting to be abused and humiliated, I want to be sweet, obedient and disciplined.

Interesting, no?

>>8596100
Well you should see how hairy I can get if I don't epilate lol
Or at least my legs and arms are like chewbacca tier anyway

I didn't think anyone would like body hair. It's one of my most hated features

>>8595964
only if they are Brazilian/Asian

>>8595894
>>8595964
Kek I'm the AGP and I don't even like hair on guys that much. Well not thigh hair at least.
Which is why men who wear short shorts without shaving their legs gross me out

>>8594792
Good if you to note the rule has exceptions, at least since I'm 5'3" mtf and dominant.

>>8596620
Dominant for men or women or both? That matters. Rare is the mtf that wants to dominate women, usually they're about dominating other mtfs and rarely females.

>>8597157
I'd dominate either but I am much much more into men than mtf or women.

>>8594269
You can just be a girl OP.

You don't have to hide the weird relatable comfort you feel around other trans girls as being some "chaser thats not into dick"

>>8594718
Dude. Same. Not the whole broken part I don't think that they are broken, however the whole power play on a weaker smaller person.. Knowing that they are vulnerable to you that you can be rougher with them than with anybody else. Having them submit to you making them take you in their mouths knowing that it goes against everything they were ever taught or shown, knowing that every drop of pre-cum they squeeze out is a drop of your assertiveness and their submission. I've never had sex with a Transgender woman only bio women so far. If I did someday not sure how I'd play it out but desu I'd probably just ignore any masculine parts and simply top them and treat them rough kind of use them more than anything.

>>8595014
>penis+woman=horny for a good portion of the male population
And the most delusional person in the world award goes to...

>>8594269
>>8594269
Most people here are familiar with which genitals they prefer on a sexual partner and the level of femininity/masculinity that they are attracted to. Sexual dimorphism in humans can be subversive and sexual attraction may come from all or some of these distinct sexual characteristics (Breasts, hips, shoulder width, genitalia, etc.). Although, genitalia of ones preferred partner and their identified gender being different aren't what make a person gay or straight because identity isn't constructed that way. However, I can't speak to your reasons why someone who is interested in me wouldn't be interested in my dick, if in fact they find my diagnosis to be of particular interest sexually. I must spend too much time here because I've been thinking about this all week and how it relates to my sexual history.

>>8598429
Transsexual porn had been shown time and time again to be between the third and fourth most popular form of pornography per online user data, and is primarily consumed by straight males. Furthermore, even in straight porn, men prefer a man with a large penis to be seen penetrating a woman, and wants to see the penetration. The evolutionary psych reason it is likely such a common thing has to do with pre-monogamy human development- group sex, both forced and consensual, was likely a common occurrence in a time without law or morality. It was thus beneficial for a man to be aroused by the sight of a female being penetrated, rather than repulsed by it, as his arousal would increase his chance of joining in and ultimately passing on his genes. Women with penises basically trip this same arousal circuitry, because brains are designed a lot more sloppily than one might think. However, most men that are into this sort of porn are truly straight- they would never engage in a real sexual act with a mtf, they are just aroused by the visual image of one, because, again, brain circuitry. Their actual sexual preference is for women, but what turns you on and what you'd date or fuck in real life still comes down to your primary sexual preference and social programming, which is real women.

And no, I'm not some transsexual that's looking to believe, I'm a guy that is training to hopefully match psychiatry, and this is one of the most frequently encountered questions received by a psychiatrist in regard to pornography- "my husband likes this, is he gay?" The answer is, from everything we know about the demographics of viewership, no. Gay men almost exclusively avoid transsexual porn, while straight men consume it. I do not know of one psychiatrist that has offered this assertion and been incorrect down the line in regard to the husband ending up gay. Now guys that are into cuckold porn, that's a different story lol... A lot of them end up full blown faggots.

>>8595072
>Well, those guys are likely in the "bi or gay but need some feminine involvement to make it okay," similar to guys that say they're straight but are into being forced to do gay shit by female dommes. They want the cock, but they've got the mental barrier of considering themselves straight. This is also why they're generally repulsive- they're not okay with themselves, and thus can't really be in a meaningful relationship and can only just be into sex, and only the sex that is the way they imagine it. As a male who is secure in his masculinity (and that knows it's okay to not always be masculine) they disgust me. I mean, I'm not into trans girls' dicks, but if you're going to be into them, at least be honest about it.


After interacting with Carth in person, this is the most accurate description of his type of chaser from what I noticed. Showing aggressive behavior and discomfort when questioned about his sexual interest in transgirls. Likes them while they're young, untouched by surgery, and cute with "twinkhon bods"; In his own words, "pure" is what he goes after. Likes his girls to follow the "FFS" role, being Friendly, Fuckable, and Supportive.

>>8598570
Isn't Justin Trudeau into cuckold porn? Hmm.

>>8598679
As he gets older how long is he going to be able to stick to his young age range? He seems touchy about his age.

They like the dick because to them it means being powerdommed by a woman

>>8598871
Escorts that fit his type maybe. I don't want to think too much about it. I would advise other girls to steer clear.

>>8598853
Trudeau is a massive faggot though.

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>>8594269
This picture makes me really self-conscious about my hips.

>>8594269
>Why are other chasers and people interested in transgirls always fascinated by their dick?
Not a chaser, but why would you be a chaser if you weren't interested in the dick? Wouldn't you just be a straight guy into ciswomen with vaginas?

>>8599007
Explained elsewhere in thread.

>>8598977
this looks like a cute movie I might watch it, thanks

>>8599104
Yeah, it's her first film, it's pretty good.

>>8599119
>her

>>8601567
.... What are you saying about Winona Ryder? Lol