REPRESSION GENERAL : YOUR CHOICE EDITION

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>>8581572
Repression isn't real, only pretending to have GID for attention is.

>>8581572
Tips for general LGBT population :
-Avoid actions which are innately LGBT in nature : these encourage, normalize, and promote such behavior, as well as socially ostracizes you from people who don't care for it. Try to have positive feelings towards new ideas and things which fit with the new changes : a positive attitude is crucial to any change!!!

Tips for lesbians : avoid lesbian situations, and be picky with female friends : you want a female friend who discourages such behavior. Also, get male friends whom are not pervy, but whom are straight : its good to be around men to normalize being around them : build good feelings towards them. Also, know sexuality is REACTIONARY for women : where theres stimulation, behavior will follow, so long as you feel safe during.

Tips for gays : Discourage anal stimulation or gay activities : the more you do it, the more you encourage behavior. Try to stop masterbating or doing sexual activities in general for a week, see how you feel. For bottoms, work on encouraging masculinity, and working out. For tops, try to encourage a bit less masculinity, and sexual chasity for a while : Consider the benefits of women compared to men.

Tips for bisexuals : Try to look at the negatives of homosexual behavior, and possitives of heterosexual. Avoid homo behavior.

Tips for trans : Remind yourself EVERY DAY your born gender, and accept that you can never change it. Remind yourself its OK to be such sex. Encourage the behavior befitting your born sex, and encourage yourself to focus on the positive side of such behavior.

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>>8581599
>thinking people have never been in the closet, ever, whatsoever, and that telling people to get out of the closet is UN-necessary because the "closet" doesn't exist

>>8581670
>me
>following any of this shit

LOL

literally "stop being gay guys" LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL what the hell are you people snorting these days LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

>>8581712
The question is, why would you NOT?

If you say you cannot, aren't you admitting you are mentally disturbed and unable to control your own actions?

More importantly, why would you want to NOT follow this? I guess if you are OK with all the consequences, and are deep, deep into the life, it might not seem a desirable choice...but seriously, who wants all the baggage of being TRANS or something these days?

Like I said, its a choice : if you don't want to make it fine : but then you cannot complain about anything which is a direct cause of it, without being a MASSIVE hypocrite.

>>8581677
>>8581777
Why cant I hold all these 7s?

By the way, the fact you faggots CANNOT answer my question shows a lot : you are lying to yourselves.

>>8581670
This guy is a riot.

Too bad he can't be charged as one.

>>8581883
Theres nothing immoral about criticizing people, nor is it illegal.

Course, it sounds like you truly cannot care about anyone elses perspective but your own, is this correct? This is a common symptom of LGBT, where the status is more important than ANYTHING ELSE in life

its practically a religion.

>>8581837
waah my shit bait didnt' get replies let me (checked) myself

stay mad spergo I'm gonna continue living a life that triggers the fuck out of you and there is nothing you can do about it

pray for totalitarian takeover hitler LARPer

>>8581920
Doesn't really trigger me : I'm just tired of being expected to give a shit about people suffering from aids, pay taxes for faggot medical builds, and people expect me not to criticize them when they make a stupid life choice.

>>8581940
>pay taxes
you don't even have a job. faggot

>>8581912
>is this correct?
No, it's not. In fact, you couldn't be further from the truth. However, I cease to care for your perspective when your 'perspective' is "You need a lifetime of suffering so I don't have to recognize that science advances." At that point you can fuck off and die.

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>>8581940
>he still thinks aids is just a gay thing

>>8581958
>need a lifetime of suffering
Ever figure your full of shit about having a lifetime of suffering?

>science
literally what science?

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>>8581968
Weeeeeellllll....

What about repressing being straight or cisgender?
I'm curious what that would look like and be caused by.

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>>8581572
>reshape your feelings using the Pavlovian method

>>8582138
This is honestly done a LOT : Look at all the lesbian threads telling bisexuals to "pick a side", or people saying they are full gay / les "because its easier".

So yes, it exists

Its caused by a healthy family raising, probably, as well as perhaps understanding the benefits to it : but I cannot say as I don't know your past.
>>8582190
nothing is something voluntarily done unless it have perceived merit or value, and if this value exceeds the costs and problems associated with it

notice I said PERCEIVED, not actual : You continue doing homosexual things because you percieve it being the best option, for whatever reason.

This might be because you really enjoy the sex, because you figure its "pointless" to try being straight, ect. Whatever it is, if you remove that, your desire to be it will diminish in return.

>>8581599

>pretending to have GID for attention is

Yeah, that's what you do every day.

>>8582203
You continue shitposting because you percieve it being the best option, for whatever reason.
This might be because you really enjoy the rush, because you figure its "pointles" to try being agreeable, ect. Whatever it is, if you remove that, your desire to be it will diminish in return.

>>8581572
Pro tip for people who consider themselves 'too old': You can encourage and grant situations that give others choices you were denied. Grant people options.

>>8582190
To explain what the pavlovian method is, by the way, heres a summary

Everything we learn, have feelings towards, ect, is due to either patterns.

From fear of fast moving objects, to desire for food, all of these are mental patterns of stimuli matching results thus giving an innate "urge" to act a certain way

In short, if you can identify why you became homosexual, trans, ect (hint, NOBODY is born that way) then you can end up deconstructing it, and ending the behavior

Course, the first step is believing its possible : nobody ever did anything by first saying "I can't".

>>8582210
Who said I HAVE GID?

I used to have it, as well as homosexual thoughts (they still come and go) but I do not act on them, and I push them away.

I am honestly happier, and healthier doing so.

>>8582214
Who said its shitposting?

I'm being 100% honest with you folks. This is not for the rush, its because I desire to help people out of an unhealthy lifestyle.

>Whatever it is, if you remove that, your desire to be it will diminish in return.
this is true : If I removed my feeling that being homosexual was harmful, I WOULD end up not posting

however this would require me to deny reality, and that's a form of insanity

so I'll take sanity

>>8582215
Being older has nothing to do with it : Being lgbt, but particularly trans raises rates for all kinds of problems : drug abuse, sexual abuse, rape, domestic violence, STDs, other mental illnesses (when you get too much mental illness, it tends to snowball) and other crap.

I don't want to wish that on anyone, so I bring my message here.

>>8582235
Rates are higher than non-LGBT communities, and most of the studies have their basis in the 1980's and 1990's USA samples. The problems you mention are all risks, regardless of LGBT-status or not. The current USA LGBT community does foster the issues you raise, but these are individual choices, not community ones.
Repression is a viable strategy to deal with LGBT urges in the short term. However, long term, it often results in suicide, especially among conservative Christians.
Instead, facing and addressing the underlying issues that each individual has to deal with, particularly through professional care, is instead a wiser option. Once you have addressed the issues that plague you and have a plan to address them, then you can assist others.

tl;dr
everyone should take care of their own issues, then help others take care of theirs.

>>8582254
>1990s
This is untrue.
Drugs, from 2009...http://www.socialworktoday.com/archive/070714p8.shtml
Suicide. 2016 (please note the suicide rate in canada, and HOW FUCKING LIBERAL canada is)https://www.healthyplace.com/gender/glbt-mental-health/homosexuality-and-suicide-lgbt-suicide-a-serious-issue/

So you are full of it.


>All risks regardless of LGBT status
non argument. This is like stating going to detroit is just as safe as new york, because both places have shootings.

>The current USA LGBT community does foster the issues you raise
Examine the statistic dude...or any statistics...or even threads on here talking about suicide

>Repression is a viable strategy to deal with LGBT urges in the short term. However, long term, it often results in suicide, especially among conservative Christians.
citation needed

> facing and addressing the underlying issues that each individual has to deal with, particularly through professional care, is instead a wiser option
Agreed, but conversion therapy is frowned upon / illegal, even if it works

>Once you have addressed the issues that plague you and have a plan to address them, then you can assist others.
done and done

>>8581572
It's all a choice but how the fuck do I function in daily life when I feel this shitty all around the day every day?

I'm on HRT for a year now and things don't seem to be working out.
This fucking 50/50 passing is really pissing me off.
Is it possible to go back to repressing?
The E had it's way with my body for while so I probably need a way to get rid of my tiddy as well.

>>8582254
>addressing the underlying issues that each individual has to deal with, particularly through professional care

When the only way to deal with Gender Dysphoria is to trap yourself, your only options are repression, or searching for a cure for AGP/Trans/Dysphoria.

>>8581572
>curehon tier thread

>>8583112
Cureanon is always right.
Bitterhons BTFO

Query: How does one repress being Asexual?

>>8581572
>some conversion therapy bullshit
Doesn't work in real life and it won't work with shiposting either.
01/10, made me reply

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>Reminder that living your life to appease others or avoid judgment or punishment from them only brings anguish, not joy. Live for yourself or you will regret it.

>>8583343
This

Letting an anonymous fucktard determine your habits =! wise

4chan is not a sage. Most people on 4chan are mentally ill in some way shape or form. You take your life into your own hands whenever you so much as trust a word off of this site.

>>8581572
>And you can always reshape your feelings using the Pavlovian method, by establishing positive feelings towards something while negatives to something else - you just need to consider what things which could make you happy to build an associative liking towards a certain behavior
That's really only true for things that were learned through conditioning in the first place, trying to use conditioning to overcome instinct tends not to end well. And it really takes extreme measures to work even for many conditioned traits - if it was as simple as you claim, it would be really easy for people to cure themselves of fetishes or cigarette addiction, etc, but that rarely actually happens. Most addiction specialists seem skeptical of its effectiveness, as even if it is possible in theory, since the only way to create sufficiently strong "negative feelings" towards the thing being avoided is to basically commit self-harm, which is usually worse than the addiction or fetish was in the first place.

>>8581572
>And to anyone who thinks I'm wrong, please check the Image : You don't have to agree with me, or even like me, but you should respect people choice to take control of their lives.
Here's the thing though, you're not really taking control of your life. You're putting haters in control of it. Because the only arguments you've presented in favor of why repression is beneficial is that it will stop haters from hurting you - but that just means it's the haters who are driving your decision to repress, they're the ones ultimately controlling your life. You're choosing to GIVE UP your own freedom so haters don't hurt you. It's really no different than saying that handing over your money when gunpoint is a consensual transaction. Now, I'm not saying I would choose differently in that scenario - I would GLADLY hand over all my money rather than risk being shot, but you shouldn't try to delude yourself into thinking that you're the one in control when that happens. If someone would rather repress and pretend to be straight rather than get beat up, well that's their choice and it probably is indeed the lesser of two evils. You're not becoming free, you're just choosing which of your freedoms to give up. Personally, I'm in favor of maximizing freedom - meaning you're free to not act on your urges if you really don't want to, but the decision is wholly internal, it's not based on external threats of violence. Because choosing to comply with someone threatening violence against you is not "taking control of your life", it's only acting in self-preservation.

>>8581777
>If you say you cannot, aren't you admitting you are mentally disturbed and unable to control your own actions?
Is someone mentally disturbed if they refuse to spend an entire week in their basement, in complete darkness? The issue here isn't that repression is impossible, it's that you're not really doing enough to explain the benefits which justify the effort. And you can't just "wish away" gender dysphoria, no matter how much you believe in pop psychology - repression is ONLY a rational choice if the consequences of being trans are actually worse than dysphoria itself. Which, AFAIK, tends not to be a common situation, at least not in remotely civilized countries.

>Like I said, its a choice : if you don't want to make it fine : but then you cannot complain about anything which is a direct cause of it, without being a MASSIVE hypocrite.
So gays are hypocrites for complaining about gay bashing since they could have avoided it by staying in the closet?

Do you also think women are hypocrites for complaining about being raped, since they could have avoided it by just staying in the house?

Do you think wealthy people are hypocrites for complaining about being robbed, since they could have avoided it by giving away all their money to the poor?

Do you think the victims of the Pulse shooting "deserved it" for being gay out in public? Do you think the victims of 9/11 "deserved it" because they could have avoided any risk by just staying home that day?

Because that's essentially the argument you're making, unless for some reason you think being gay is a "special case", which would only make sense if you consider gay bashers to be incapable of controlling their own actions.

>>8581969
>if you're gay, you should repress so you don't suffer
>being gay doesn't cause suffering
Choose one.

>>8581973
You do know the vast majority of gays despise "bug chasers", right? And the implication that homophobes hate gays for being "bug chasers" rather than because of religion is utterly laughable, because when asked for an explanation homophobes very frequently bring up "muh leviticus", but you pretty much only hear about bug chasing from /pol/.