Question for straight trans attracted men:

Androgynous, leaning twords feminine.

i've seen a few early starters who had been on hrt at least a decade. not as attractive as 3 years in. but i do know a 60's tranz and she's still hot af, but her shoulders r gettin big.

I want them to be borderline hon. Like very tall, someone who has some clear male features but has been dramatically feminized. Like a fully developed male with not a shred of actual masculinity in them, if that makes sense. I'm cis girl so I don't think what I look for will be the same as what a cis guy looks for.

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>>8571168
>Do you find a more feminine appearance in trans women attractive, (I.e. large breasts, wide hips), or a more "trappy" appearance (body looks masculine, or has small breasts)?

I think about trans girls a bit differently than the box you have defined so let me explain.

I like a passable, pretty face first and foremost. The ideal standard I use in my mind is that the perfect trans girl face is so pretty that even if all people that met her knew she was trans straight guys would still want to fuck her and cis women would be jealous of her face. I think the face is the most valuable part of the trans girl for me personally because it is so extremely difficult to be an attractive woman with a male skull and facial features. I think Princess Matty is a good example of someone close to my "ideal" she looks like this:
http://imgur.com/a/C4GGP

After the face the most attractive thing is probably the Height/Weight. People try and complain about muscles, body types, etc but really they are just fat as fuck Tbh. A BMI of ~18-24 is going to be best with 20ish being the sweet spot for the "Trap" aesthetic. If your BMI is over 20 you can fuck off with the "abloo bloo bloo muh manly body" nobody wants to hear that shit lose weight bitch fuck goddamn..... basically the bottom line here is the goal should be:

5'0" - 5'4" 110-120lbs
5'4" - 5'8" 120-130lbs
5'8" - 6"0' 130-140lbs

Now I do agree that obviously people carry weight differently but for the vast majority of trans girls they are going to look the most feminine and healthy somewhere between 120-140lbs. If you too skele or fatty, get on that shit Tbh, a nice body is very attractive.

After the face and size the other features like curvy hips, large breasts, etc are just bonuses for me. I like natural bodies, if you have nice tits, great if not its whatever. If you have a fat ass thats nice, if not its whatever. If you got a monster girldick nice, if not its whatever.....
xD xD xD

>>8571392
It seems like you are interested in a conventionally attractive girl with a penis; it seems like you don't associate your attraction to trans girls with a particular body type (For example, being interested specifically in conventional traps); and it seems like what you look for in trans women is pretty analogous to what most people look for in cis women: Conventionally attractive BMIs and conventionally attractive secondary sex characteristics.

Is this a fair assessment?

If so, then I think you are in direct contrast to our previous posters, >>8571291, >>8571285, and >>8571240, all of which associate their particular attraction to trans people with the particular, masculine features that set trans women apart from cis women.

I wonder what sets these groups of trans attracted people apart? Have our previous posters mythologized a certain kind of trans woman, (the more masculine appearing ones, be it in body or face), in turn fetishizing a particular abstraction of the object (object meaning the person responsible for the idea, the trans woman)? If the average trans woman seeks to blend as seamlessly into society as a cis woman, does this mean the goals of (at least some percentage) trans attracted people (to date a trap), and the goals of trans women (to pass as a cis woman), are in conflict, therefore justifying the practice of avoiding chasers?

>>8571168
Don't you mean transbians?
Straight mtf's are into dudes

>>8571800
Straight is the adjective modifying the noun, which is "trans attracted men". E.g.: chasers. My (lack of) punctuation makes it confusing, sorry about that :)

>>8571168
>It seems like you are interested in a conventionally attractive girl with a penis

Not that guy but that goes for me for sure.

trans are a fantasy nothing more really. I wouldn't pursue a relationship because the part that interests me is the idea of being topped and most (ik not all) are exclusively bottoms. Also I hear the 'mones make you partially to totally impotent.

I don't think I'd be satisfied just fucking her. I'm not a fan of buttfucking from the giving end.

Of course, I guess if there was love involved none of this would matter to me but you asked about chasers so...

Full spectrum really from >>8571291
to when they're impossible to differentiate from cis.

>>8571168
Little to no titties
Small waist
Don't care about hip size if I can see the ass jiggle
Overall not muscular
Orientation trapsexual, but I will smash trannys with tits too

>>8571392
>5'8" - 6"0' 130-140lbs
Just admit you can't handle my 160 lbs of awesomeness. :^)

>>8571392
Prince* Matty, since he detransitioned tbqh familia.

No female socialization. Literally that's it.

>>8572052
Yeah I know she detrans, I talked to her she said she is non-binary now and didnt care if I used female pronouns for her...... I see her as a female so........ yea.

>>8572046
>can't handle my 160 lbs
I Power Clean 205lbs for reps just now today.... with that said......
FORK PUTDOWNS BITCH ! xD

>>8572057
virgin mgtow detected

>>8572071
>FORK PUTDOWNS BITCH ! xD
Funny thing is that despite being physiologically a fatty I look skinny af. Most of my weight is in my thighs, butt and tummy but my arms and chest are almost skelly tier tbqh.

>>8572071
You type like you're twelve. Don't most people grow out of "xD"?

>>8571806
>chasers
>straight

>>8572087
>Funny thing is that despite being physiologically a fatty I look skinny af
To other fatties, yes maybe you do. If you wanna bounce up and down on my dick then you gonna drop weight. If not I dont give a fuck what you do Tbh

>>8572090
>You type like you're twelve. Don't most people grow out of "xD"?
AYY LMAO LEL LUL xD xD xD


Aiiiight y'all have a good night. Hotties know where to reach me (:

>>8572052
Why would you throw away mtf genes that good desu...?

>>8572072
so what is so great about female socialization in current year?

>>8571168
>straight trans attracted men
Just call them by their rightful name: gay ass faggots chasing dudes who chop off their dick

>>8572366
It's actually called GAMP if you want to use rightful name.

>>8572362
>tfw ywn be raised with female socialization

>>8572387
But why would you want that (other than for mannerisms to pass better)?

>>8572407
because it would be fun to experience? getting told to wear dresses, being the girl of the group to all the boys, getting made pretty

>>8572443
This isn't really a socialization.

>>8572498
what is? i'm sure i'd like it for the same reasons.

>>8572505
Howto interact with rest of society, rules & norms etc.

>>8571168
>straight trans attracted men
you mean gays?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgdr-8TmImo

>>8572582
>>8572366
>>8572100
It honestly does not matter. The language policing is absurd. You understand what I'm saying. Good enough.

>>8572582
She looks so uncomfortable, my god. She's so fidgety.

>>8572527
how would that be taught though?

i'd still like it for the same reasons as >>8572443 as well as for >>8572407 too i guess

>>8572582
His boyfriend looks super gay Toby Honest.

I bet he loves when Blaire White's cock pounds his closeted ass.

>>8572052
why, she was so pretty

>>8572582
uncanny valley,

>>8572387
>not having been socialized female
sorry but its impossible for a true trans girl to be socialized male, that's not something other people decide for you

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>>8571168
i prefer smaller breasts
all about dat fat ass tho

>>8572707
i don't understand...

>>8572775
you learn how to socialize by watching other people of the same gender. its not possible to be "raised" with a certain socialization, unless you were detached from the rest of society alone with your dad or w.e.

>>8572804
i don't think i learned either way

i guess i observed boys more though

>>8572804
I observed girls way more naturally. But after I got laughed at for doing stuff the girly way too many time by the male members of my family. I stopped looking to my mother what to do, and started looking to my brother and the other guys. Never really understood why guys do guy things though.

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>>8572804
you are forgetting the secret ingredient

autism

>>8571168

>more feminine appearance in trans women attractive, (I.e. large breasts, wide hips)

The only male chasers who can actually call themselves straight.

>a more "trappy" appearance, (body looks masculine, or has small breasts)

Faggots.

>>8571291

Straight female.

>>8572311

Probably BDD.

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>>8571168
Alright I am infatuated with the Alt-Right and Trap relationship. A lot of these fuckers are in love with or have huge fantasies about Traps. They mostly like the skinny semi passable to skinny extremely passable. /pol/ has started deleting the Trap threads and thank god so now they come here and profess their love all of the time on this board. It is truly an interesting look into the mind of some of these kids. They think gay men are gross and the LGBT community is fucking useless but they love the Traps. Also the Traps love it for the most part a lot of the these girls love it. Like I said it is extremely interesting to watch. If you want proof look at Blaire White's comment section on YouTube and her Twitter feed it is full of Alt-Right and 1488 comments. I don't get but I find it one of the most interesting subjects on the internet. They love their Traps and Blaire is their Queen. What a time to be alive honestly

Feminine is nice. Trappy/twinky is also nice. They are both a different type of aesthetic and I can appreciate them equally. What matters is that she's not a sort of awkward in-between, and not fat.

You should have a pleasant face to look at and a thin frame that is wider at the waist.

>>8573352
>cascadia flag
>MAGA hat

interesting combination.

>>8573449
It is interesting

>>8571392
carth tell me what ffs procedures i need to be a 10, and where am i at right now?

>>8571168
it's not that i'm attracted to men who transition into women, it's that i'm attracted to femininity and at a certain point a woman becomes attractive enough for me to tolerate the presence of a dick. trans women are held to the same standard i hold cis women to, desu

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>no one repping thicc trannies
you are all fools

>>8571392
>If your BMI is over 20 you can fuck off with the "abloo bloo bloo muh manly body" nobody wants to hear that shit lose weight bitch fuck goddamn
been a while since I cared but isnt 20 cut off for healthy weight? Like under that you get skellies.

Do you just like skellies carth?

>>8571392
>~18-24 is gonna be best
>if your bmi is over 20 you can fuck off
What did he mean by this?
My bmi is 21, I have no idea if carth likes my weight or hates it.

>>8573745

>tfw not thicc

>>8573748

It's 18.5-24.9 for healthy weight as far as I can recall.

>>8573810

I think the second is a separate clause in that 20-24 is normally acceptable, but if the body is too manly at over 20, then Carth's suggestion is to lose weight.

>>8573745
Isn't she like the only naturally thicc, feminine looking tranny though?

So fucking beautiful. Anyone not wanting to chase dat is 100% homo.

>>8571392
>A BMI of ~18-24 is going to be best
I also used to think that when I was a sissyboy with a hairless chest who couldn't deadlift more than 200 lbs. Now that I'm an actual man I say 25-30 is the ideal for any woman, cis or trans.

Don't reply to this post unless it's to apologize and acknowledge that THICC is best.

>>8573748
18.5 is but at this point you are a bit of skelington

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>>8571794
>you are interested in a conventionally attractive girl with a penis
Kind of, but its a lot more complex than that. I guess what I didnt clearly state in my 1st post is that my criteria for trans girls is much more basic and relaxed than it is vs cis girls. For one because of simple numbers, trans girls are very rare as a % of the population. Secondly for realistic reasons, such as I like natural bodies and the number of already very rare trans girls with a BMI to my liking plus C-Cup breasts is essentially non-existent. My attraction towards trans girls is rooted in reality so expecting naturally large breast and hips is just delusional.

I do like the fact that trans girls are more muscular and have lower body fat than your average cis girl. I do like broad, powerful (for a girl) shoulders, and girls that are tallish (for girls) like 5'7" - 5'10". Its very easy for trans girls to have those things whereas its much more rare with cis girls.

Remember most trans attracted guys ITT and on this board jerk off to trans porn.... I have sex and relationships with average everyday real life trans girls. My preferences are real world, not purely theoretical, or porn/fantasy based.

>>8572311
>>8572670
She told me that she didnt feel she passed well IRL, and her voice needs a lot of work. She said she wants to focus on finishing her 4yr degree, and getting a job so she can afford FFS (LUL xD) and transition when she can (presumably) be stealth. She is HST and doesnt really have problems finding guys, she also has a less "broken" life than most trans girls here so the pressures and motivations she feels are different than most here prob feel.

>>8573564
>where am i at right now?
idk we never talk anymore. Add me on Kik/Discord, get naked, and call me daddy and I might tell you.

>>8573748
>>8573810
Poor reading comprehension desu please apply yourselves

>>8574486
ill respond to this another time.

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>>8573352
its cause they all look like this and real women are repulsed by them

>>8574577
(You)

>>8574577
That "SHITLORD" t-shirt. Irony is dead.

>>8571168
I think in general I'm just more attracted to petite women than anything else, but body doesn't matter as much to me as face, if you look like a man, Im turned off, if I saw you from an angle during sex that made you look like a man I'd probably have to stop.

>>8574477
idk about that, she's certainly the only one ive found with pictures on the internet. I don't see how she could be the only one.

>>8574577
There are way more PoC in that picture than I would've imagined

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>>8571168

I'm mostly attracted to the low standards and mental instability