Why does no one have genital dysphoria?

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>>8558957
>implying that we like our crotch tumors and dysphoria holes

>>8558957
it doesn't make them any less real

>>8558957
so you didn't notice that the whole board is going mental because suporn fucks off!?

>>8558980
yes it does
dysphoria is a requirement to be trans
without it, they're just a faker trying to win attention

>they'd use them like getting sucked off or something.
Nothing wrong with that as long as you don't use it to fug somebody tbqh.

>>8558982
It's been like this forever. Just because the best surgeon is retiring doesn't mean you'd suddenly enjoy using your fucking meat stick.
>>8558972
You all call it that but then use them so...

>>8558984
So it's ok if a ftm enjoys getting eaten out?
You're still using THE most male part of your body.

>>8558983
you can have dysphoria about things other than your genitals and transition because of that
most transpeople don't get srs

>>8558997
thats because it's fucking awful
I hate my dick but will never get surgery because its abysmal

>>8558957
Please go outside and meet real MTFs.
This board is full of AGPs who are just beta Cis straight men who can't get girls. Do not judge trans people by these ChanGPs

>>8558957
You do realize having and using a dick is a common fantasy among bi and les women right?

>>8559026
>real MTFs
>AGPs who are just beta Cis straight men who can't get girls
What's the difference?

>>8558957
That image is fucking disgusting and I am extremely upset.

>>8558987
So you're inventing your own version of reality and then applying it to us? What else can we tell you other than "we do not use our fucking meat sticks"?

>>8558957
I don't like that I have a penis as opposed to a vagina, but it's there, has a lot of nerves, and is just biologically wired to make me feel nice. Why would I not use it? I'd 100% prefer the alternative but I may as well utilise what I have, it's closer than nothing. I wouldn't go as far as fucking someone, but if my boyfriend just wants to rub it sometimes that's completely fine by me.

I do want a vagina but I don't want srs, maybe if we get magical stem cell treatments or whatever in the future I'll go for it, but for now I'm stuck with it.

I understand some may have genital dysphoria so crippling that they can't even bear to use it, but I personally don't. That's not to say I don't have dysphoria, or even that I don't have genital dysphoria, which I do. It's just not so severe that it's impossible for me to tolerate it.

>>8559026
agp is innate
agp is one of two ways to be trans
most mtfs are agp
there's no such thing as a "real mtf"

>>8558957
1. Not your problem
2. Cutting it off/putting on a fake penis won't really solve much. Mindless hate for your genitals is as I say *mindless*
3. The difference between the femininity/masculinity of the body and genitals makes them feel more special and attracts more partners.

>>8558957
I fucking hate my penis. Just sayin.

>>8558957
I am a bi ftm and honestly, I have a shiton of dysphoria, and I often think about killing myself. But I don't hate my genitals as much as I thought I would. I don't like to call it pussy, it makes me feel disgusting, and I'd rather do anal, but yeah.

The srs that exists rn doesn't look like a real dick, I have just accepted I will be stuck with this. I'll just have my mini dick, strap on and ass. Good enough.

The ftms that do say "fuck my pussy" or weird shit like that make me... feel kinda weird though.

I'll never use my genitals for sex. Does this make me TruTranz?

>>8558957
My owner can touch it and do what he wants but I can't stand it. Glad he doesn't ever want to pleasure it though, just hurt it. I seriously can't even imagine pleasure with it and another person.

I can't wait until it's gone.

>>8559471
What happens after he gets bored of you and kicks you out?
Role playing is fine, but don't live your whole life dependent on one person unless you get a marriage. Dummy.

>>8559471
How does he hurt it?

>>8558957
I think for many its just a coping mechanism for the fact that they cant afford the surgery. They tell themselves they dont want it but they really do.

>>8559484
Why would he get bored of me? I bake cakes and pies from scratch, I make meals every day, keep the house clean, keep his cock slick and his balls empty, play his games with him, watch his animes, do the laundry and town errands, and make myself available to him at any time. He works, I don't.

And when he isn't giving me things to do, which is frequently, I have my own hobbies, my own shows I like, my own movies, and my own non-human pets to play with and he gives me money for treats for myself. I guess its already kind of like a marriage.

>>8559503
He'll slap it, twist it, yank on it, pinch it. Nothing permanently damaging, more like just uncomfortable to moderately painful. He worked his way up, starting from much more gentle to make sure I was okay with it.

>>8558957
I don't get it either, but who gives a shit what other people do? Besides it's not a majority of trans people it's just the ones YOU'VE fucking met. Maybe you are the problem in this scenario? Off yourself in blind rage or realise you aren't affected, nothing of value was lost, and go get a fucking hobby or something.

>>8558957
my girl tinker is very pretty and cute.

>>8558983
idk it just doesn't trigger me like the parts of my body people actually see doo

>>8558957
>He'll slap it, twist it, yank on it, pinch it.
BOP IT

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>>8559764
Dickgirls are disgusting and give trannies a bad rep.
Doesn't help that denial and inability to afford surgery makes most fucking obnoxious about how they talk about their dicks too.

Its funny how much nonsense is spread about SRS around here by those very trannies who cant handle not getting SRS just to tell themselves its fine like that.

I'm not buying the whole I have dysphoria but genital dysphoria IS SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT thing either. Thats in the same boat with gender is a social construct.

I cant even call it what it is
I generally just refer to it as my junk because that is what it is

>>8559838
>fucking obnoxious about how they talk about their dicks too.
>>8559792
Case in point I guess.

did u consider theres smthn inbetween "totally cool with" and "existentially obliterated by"

id like a vagina but as long as i look n get treated liek a girl for the most part i can cope, plus what do u expect me to do, NOT hook up w hotties??

>>8558957
I don't understand how somebody can use it for sex.
But, you do have to accept it being there, otherwise you'll be miserable forever.

You're gonna avoid sex, and basically having any meaningful relationship? Because you're being stuck up about being the "truest" of them all? Or even kill yourself?
Nah, you have to come to terms with it.

>>8559838
I mean, I agree.
a lot of transwomen tell themselves they are fine with it so they can live with the fact they cant afford to get SRS or the fact that SRS wont give them a perfect vagina
I cant afford SRS and its really depressing

https://vimeo.com/175865966

>>8558957
If I or somebody else touches my penis in a sexual way I literally start hyperventilating because of how much I hate it. My bf tried touching it while we were doing the sex, I didn't want to ruin it so I went with it, after he was finished I curled up in a ball on our bed and just started crying. He helped me compose myself but I told him to never touch it again, it's been a month since then and there has been no more incidents.

>>8558957
I'm FtM and I enjoy getting fucked vaginally because it feels good. I also like being humiliated go I get off on feeling bad. For me personally I feel more top dysphoria because I feel worse having something that I shouldn't have than I do not having something I should have.

>>8558957
I don't care about people touching my penis or seeing it but I only actually like bottoming. I dislike getting blowjobs or handjobs and stuff like that but guys seem to like doing it anyway. Doesn't matter to me though, I can't get hard so they can suck my limp dick all they want lol

>>8559068
So you don't get jerked or sucked and you don't jerk or suck yourself?

>>8558957
maybe you're referring to transtrenders and crossdressers that think they're trans because they wear clothing of the opposite sex?

Most actual trans people don't like the genitals they're born with so they don't use them.

>>8560142
It all depends of hormonal balance. If you still maintain your erection - you enjoy game with your cock even if you hate it. But these mostly are prostitutes and porn actresses. And if you remain limp all the time - nobody is toing to touch it for long - not too much fun sucking a limp dick.

>>8559034
It's true. The penis envy is real.

>>8560212
>nobody is going to touch it for long - not too much fun sucking a limp dick

i've just been told some trans don't like acknowledging they have a penis during sex and don't like it being touched. i'm not into making someone feel uncomfortable in an intimate moment. if it feels good to them i'd suck it and touch it. sex isn't one sided.

>>8558957
why do i want to be tied up like that
is there something wrong with me

>>8560283
I definitely don't like acknowledging it. I don't like acknowledging it outside of sex either, it makes me depressed.

love the idea of srs b

>>8560511
but im have to learn to cope w having a femdicc b.c srs is a long way away

>>8558957
there is an australian movie called Priscilla Queen of the Desert where a character played by Terence Tramp hates his dick and cuts it off. watch it.

>>8560833
that doesnt happen in the movie
but its a good movie

>>8560096
Sometimes I jerk myself and feel fucking disgusting and hate myself afterwards

>>8560876
You probably don't want my sympathy, but you have it.

>>8558957
>You're only trutrans if you want SRS

What the fuck is this Susan's Place tier shit?

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>>8561820
>What the fuck is this Susan's Place tier shit?

>Want to be a girl
>Dick is totally fine tho, it's just the #1 male feat.

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>>8561937
>#1 male trait
This is how to spot the cis dude.

>>8558957
>Every mtf I know is /completely/ fine with her penis. Even those that don't like their dicks, still say that they'd use them like getting sucked off or something.

Yeah no...I've been "tucking" it before I knew what I was doing when I was like 7 or 8, because I didn't like having it.

Nowadays I can't touch it or look at it without overreacting. Last week I sat on my bed crying for a good 15 minutes because I saw an outline of it in my underwear.

I personally thought genital dysphoria was a requirement to be transgender but according to here and other places its not.

>>8562020
>I personally thought genital dysphoria was a requirement to be transgender but according to here and other places its not.
It is though, but it's easier to deny than to deal.

>>8562041
>what are literally every other dysphoria

I don't understand why a trans person would get rid of there dick tho, isent there a chance if fucks up your nerves or gets badly infected. It's like a big piercing but acutaly removing an organ.

>>8562055
Dysphoria is dysphoria, there's no "genital dysphoria" or other made up bull.

>>8562073
>because every tranny feels exactly the same dislike for every male thing about them

>>8562083
Dude do you wanna be a girl or not

>>8562097
Yes but genitals aren't the most important part.

>>8559072
That perfectly describes my situation.
I wish I could have a functioning vagina. But I don't think the results of current SRS techniques even with top surgeons are satisfactory, especially considering an impossibly astronomical cost(for me with my $7k yearly income) and all the complications like having to quit your job and the long and difficult recovery. Not to mention that I'd have to fly halfway across the globe for any fixes/revisions.
As for what I have now... Not a fan of it, and definitely don't want to use it for penetration. But it's here and it's designed to cause physiological pleasure if touched when aroused. So I kinda have to roll with what I have until I get rich and/or there would be some breakthrough in SRS techniques.

>hate my dick
>still jerk off with it because I can't reach orgasm otherwise
>get a PA because I thought it would be cute but its the wrong size right now so my partner can't request penetrative sex even though they want it
>I liked the idea of mutilating my dick because I wish I didn't have one
>I'm a sub anyway
>feel slightly better about my dick
>blowjobs still give me terrible dysphoria
>can't look at my dick when jerking off
I know I should probably get the piercing resized but if I do my partner will want dick again and I don't enjoy it at all.

Take me off this ride. I want SRS but its a major surgery and even if I could afford it, the healing time and risk for complications terrifies me.

>>8559411
>strap on
I've seen a trans woman here on /lgbt/ talking about her FtM husband using a strapless dildo, which supposedly feels good for him as well.
>Married one. He's strong enough to be able to "hold" a strapless cock, and is so enthusiastic to "fuck like a guy" that he puts twenty times the effort into topping that any cis gay ever did. I cum fucking waterfalls when he fucks me.
> 10/10 would recommend
> My FtM husband did crazy kegels and got to the point where not only can he hold a strapless like a champion, he can cum from using it.
> It's not a flesh and blood cock, but his enthusiasm is more than making up for it. Best sex of my life.
> I'm not just taking him up though... he's actually that good

>tfw agp and chaser so you just want to be a hot passable girl with a feminine penis

>>8562058
I got rid of it because I hated it and didn't want to have to deal with it and the balls. Nasty and ugly things on me. It was worth the risk and it all worked out.

>>8558957
because dicks can be feminine and vaginas can be masculine

Bi FtM here. I had bad genital dysphoria as a teen, like to the point that I barely ever masturbated and only through layers of clothing. I was dead-set on a phallo.

Then I realized the surgery is kinda crap, plus I would have a massive give-away chunk of flesh missing from my leg or arm if I did it. Disliking my junk as much as I did almost made surgery seem riskier in a way, because orgasm is the only thing that made it bearable. If the surgery took that away from me, I don't know if I could handle the result and losing the only thing that makes having genitals at all worthwhile.

So I...basically worked on making my genital dysphoria not as bad. Hard to describe how, but I read some stuff about how a lot of women think their vulvas should look like porno airbrushed ones and should take a mirror and really examine and accept what their body looks like. Really some fluffy, stupid-sounding stuff, BUT...I actually did it, and while it didn't make me "love my body" or whatever, I did start to see it in a more clinical way as just...body parts, not good or bad. Just there. That helped.

I really wish I did have a cock that had sensation, and it hurts that I will never have that. But I'd rather make do.

>>8562525
I also wish this worked, as I think it would make it more like having a real dick. But I seem to have mild vaginismus and the bulbs on those things are terrifyingly huge to insert.

I don't really want to bottom to a penis (seems like it would hurt crazy-bad), but if I had to at all, I think I'd much prefer it up my ass.

I've accepted that "girl with a penis" is kinda just the fucking cards I got in life so I'm really just ambivalent/indifferent towards my dick and I mainly care about just being integrated as a woman in society and I don't -need- a vagina to do that. I do want SRS but it's the least of my priorities.

>>8564299
At the time I had SRS I couldn't get any gender markers changed without it. That is thankfully no longer the case. While I did not get SRS because of the gender marker issue, the sense of urgency was stronger because of that.

>>8564386
I thought you could get either SRS or an orchi in most places and it counts?

I've never looked into it where I live. I really hope I can just get an orchi and still do all that stuff because I think SRS is a pretty horrible procedure and I don't want to do it.
I guess worst case scenario I could do all the changes kind of illegally lol

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I was okay with my junk until further on down the line on HRT.

Had some dreams where I had a vagina and it felt really right. Decided I wanted to get SRS at some point. Looked up the results of SRS and promptly shelved the idea for another 20 years.

I'd love to get rid of my dick for something I could actually use. Bottoming for my boyfriend is painful, and I don't like other people touching my junk. I'll masturbate 2-3 times a month, and that's it. I wish I could regularly have sex with my boyfriend without a bunch of preparation.

But holy dang. Neo-vaginas are so fucking disgusting to look at. Looking over pictures of these "Acclaimed surgeon's best work" made me physically ill and I had to delete the files from my PC. If that is the alternative to my dick, I'll just keep being mildly uncomfortable with it until a better option comes along.

>>8564433
Considering the severity of reconstructive work involved in SRS they aren't even using remotely modern reconstructive techniques.
SRS as it is right now is decent for like, 1980s surgery lol

It is what it is because it cranks out a fuckton of money and they are essentially mass producing it. If you look into other reconstructive surgeries they're often using lab grown tissues, cell cultures, organ transplants, etc. and it's not any more expensive or difficult than SRS is.
In China they have done complete penile transplants for example, yet you'd never see an FTM get that. Similarly reconstructive surgery for women with improper vaginal development usually uses a lot of lab-grown tissues and such.

>>8559956
Well, surgery is surgery. Shit can go wrong. Complications can arise. Infections can develop. It's rare, but how much are you willing to risk to have a vagina you can't get pregnant with anyway?

I wonder how trannies of the 50s and 60s dealt with it when SRS was in its infancy.

>>8564396
I'm *old*. I had it done in the 90s. I don't think an orchi was enough, though to be honest I can't state that as a fact. It's been too long and everyone seemed to want actual SRS. I wanted SRS anyway.

As far as I can tell I could change everything but my birth certificate now without getting any surgery. I still can't change my birth certficate because I was born in Ohio.

>>8564454
Grow me a vagina in a tube and graft it onto me or something. As long as they're peeling apart a dick and sewing it back up in the shape of a vagina, SRS will never be even close to acceptable results. Ech.

>>8564454
Is there any work being done in this at all or is it just "good enough" till someone discovers a breakthrough?

>>8564486
They don't do things like that because SRS is kind of like boob jobs, it has done be very often and done very quickly.

Cis women born with weird genital issues often get stuff like tissue transplants, cell donors, etc from other women because there's not a 5 year lineup for stuff like that. It's just one woman that needs it so doctors are willing to put in the effort to open up a case study on it.

SRS could be significantly better as of right now, it's just not feasible because too many people want to do it. They're mass producing vagoos, you can't do tissue transplants in that quantity.

>>8564473
>was also born in ohio
Fuck, you need SRS to change birth certificate in ohio?

>>8564504
>SRS could be significantly better as of right now, it's just not feasible because too many people want to do it. They're mass producing vagoos, you can't do tissue transplants in that quantity.

Why hasn't a rich tranny put in the money for it?

>>8564518
Probably because you'd have to find a doctor willing to do it.
The doctor would have to set aside a large amount of time and also be willing to work with other surgeons and such.
SRS is already a cash cow so why get greedy for potentially not much reward?

>>8564504
The problem is how long are you willing to wait for improvements? Over the last 20 years things have improved but not enough to make that much of a difference. Do you go with what's available now, or wait for something that may never become available until you're too old for it to matter?

>>8564528
>SRS is already a cash cow so why get greedy for potentially not much reward?

Because these people are a desperate untapped market and inventing the more perfect vagina will line your pockets with gold once all the anatom AGP degenerates learn about the results.

Plus, why not progress science?

>>8564513
No, you cannot change it at all even with SRS. I've been waiting more than 20 years and the law has never changed. Passports get around the birth certficate problem though and I was able to change my driver's license after SRS.

uh no i fucking despise my penis and it makes me incredibly depressed knowing i could never have a real vagina :)

>>8564535
They're plastic surgeons, they don't care that much about progressing science, they want money lol
The problem isn't that it cannot be done, the problem is to actually mass produce it would be too difficult. Even mass producing lab grown skin grafts for burn victims and such isn't quite possible yet. But things like foreskin cell cultures have been used for burn victims quite a few times now.

Also the thing is people are going to buy the surgery regardless of how shitty it is. There's no major momentum to actually improve it because people will flock to it no matter what.

>>8559838
Don't be jealous that men like dickgirls.

>>8558957
that's simply not true. people are just apposed to SRS because they're frankenstein experiments.

>>8564556
Just about everything trans-related is shitty. FFS is shitty, breast augmentation is shitty, even HRT can be shitty. I think a lot of people are expecting too much out of SRS and are disappointed that it falls short, just like everything else we deal with.

>>8560212
My libido started to reappear after about 6-9 months on HRT. It feels different and thankfully I don't get surprise erections anymore, but I still get an erection when I'm really aroused. It's weaker and less stable than before HRT, but it's there.

>>8565625
FFS isn't bad if you split it up. I don't know why people think surgeons can just rip apart someones face and rebuild it in one go.
It's more expensive to piece it out but you'll get better results. Like how is a surgeon supposed to know how some random swollen and bloody piece of your face matches up to another swollen and bloody piece in the midst of a surgery?

>>8562388
>>8559072
These posts kinda hit the nail on the head for me, except for the part where I already feel so shitty about the fact that I'll never pass that it seems pointless to make getting rid of my dick a priority - if I get rid of the dick it won't change the fact that I'm over six feet tall and have linebacker shoulders.

>>8559838
>I'm not buying the whole I have dysphoria but genital dysphoria IS SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT thing either. Thats in the same boat with gender is a social construct.

I think it's a factor of personality more than anything.

Basically, it's relatively easy for someone to envision what it would look and feel like to have a curvier figure, less body hair, higher pitched voice, etc. Hence you hardly ever see trans people who are hesitant about those things.

However, it's borderline impossible to truly envision what it would feel like to have the opposite set of sex organs, they're more or less totally alien to anything you can relate to. As a result, a lot of people are more cautious about the idea of having or getting one.

So two trannies could have dysphoria equally as severe as one another, but one of them may outright want a vagina whereas the other is more unsure, because the latter simply has a more cautious and hesitant personality.

I would be way too dysphoric for a blow, but I could see how somebody could manage to enjoy the sensation. Only thing I'll do is masturbate, even then paying attention to what I'm doing will sometimes kill the mood

>>8558957
>m-muh trutrans
Please go.

Hypothesis time: We know for a fact that androphilic MTFs are usually genital avoidant while gynephilic MTFs are genital avoidant far less often. We also know that gynephilics, regardless of orientation, are more neurally masculine and vice versa for androphilics. For example cis lesbians are more mentally masculine than cis straight women. Transsexuality is the result of abnormal natal development. Since gynephilics are less feminized whatever part is responsible for bodily dysphoria relating to genitals might not get sufficiently feminzied to cause this sort of dysphoria in most cases. On the other hand, since androphilics are more thoroughly feminized that part is almost always hit. The rest-of-body-dysphoria threshold is met in both cases as it is lower.

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Is aversion to SRS a sign of male-typical castration anxiety?

>>8567785
SRS is not an orchiectomy though. Generally everyone will get an orchi even if they don't get SRS. If you don't get an orchi you'll die of liver failure by 40 lol

>>8567799
I am talking about people unwilling to undergo complete SRS, not just orchi. Getting an orchi for the time being is completely understandable.

>>8558957
the technology isn't there

>>8567826
A lot of people just stop at the orchi.
If you can orgasm from anal or use vibrators on your dick or whatever there's not a huge incentive to get SRS.

>>8559708
That was really hot to read, post more.

>>8562505
Ask your BF to put you in a chastity cage.

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>>8558957
Finally someone agrees with me on this normie board. I don't wanna call myself a trans person because of this SHIT, you have to have genital dysphoria to be transgender. You cant have sex with your genitalia because actual trans people would rather die, you cant get pregnant if you're a transguy that makes me REEE and cry, stop making me look like a fool. My family thinks I just fantasize about being a guy, or use it to justify me liking women, I DONT, I would give anything to be a normal female that didn't want to become an ugly male and destroy any chance of sex and destroy my beautiful female body that everyone but me loves. If the media would shut up about trans people, they would accept me. Before this whole trans thing became mainstream, they accepted me, now they think I'm just a dyke that wants attention. You aren't trans if you don't have dysphoria its THAT simple, my meatbags make me want to die, I just want to shower without having an emotional breakdown and screaming at my cat. I cant look at one of those "pretty boys" without unironically reeeing at my screen. You act like a GORL you ARE a GORL don't call yourself trans. We need stricter diagnosis for FTMs, stop pumping little gorls full of testosterone because they are a tomboy, STOP.

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I think the majority of mtf trans ppl that get their dick mutilated don't fully grasp the severity of what they're doing to their body.
You have to insert a dildo into your """vagina""" every single day for the rest of your life to keep the wound from healing and closing up.

pic related

>>8568862
t. isn't trans

>>8568911
All this did was make me want a dick more. Asides from the difficult recovery a lot of this is just issues you have with having a vagina.

>>8568951
>a lot of this is just issues you have with having a vagina.
???

>>8568977
The smell of normal female genitalia. Pee not being as easy to aim. Needing to use pads (all be it not for the same reasons but it's still unpleasant.)

>>8568951

>Asides from the difficult recovery
There is no recovery, you have to keep that wound open for the rest of your life.
>this is just issues you have with having a vagina
This is pure delusion

>>8569028
How? They even say the smell is no stronger than that of a normal vagina. Also none of this seems to be after recovery. Recovery takes a long time shame on them for not researching and shame on their doctor for not telling them.

>>8568911
I'm sorry for people who had bad experiences but SRS went well for me. I only took 3 weeks off. I was up on my feet by day 4, going out on a limited basis in week two even though I was still packed up, and going around town in my 3rd week.
While you always have to worry that surgery won't go right, neither should people think that severe problems are inevitable or even the norm.

>>8569370
Who was this? I'm assuming not Suporn, who is infamous for long recovery times. Does your vagina pass?

>>8569028
Wound is not an accurate description of something that is healed and doesn't bleed. The issue with dilation is more about stenosis and collapse.

>>8569370
This was actually Menard back in the 90s, Brassard's predecessor. Pass? Not if you look too closely. If I got a labiaplasty it would be better. The labiaplasty issue was known to me before surgery, it could be considered a 1 1/2 stage operation, but I was happy enough to not feel compelled to get it.
From what I've read about Suporn his procedure does seem to be more involved and requires more recovery.

>>8568862
I agree with the first part but yeah, sounds like you have issues other than being trans. Doesn't seem like you're trans because you can admit you have a "beautiful female body" and call yourself a dyke.

>>8558957
I hatr my penis but i tolerate it because i dont have a million dollars for surgury

>>8559823
This right here desu.
My dysphoria is in big part social and how others perceive me. Until surgery can make a penis that looks like more than meat pogo, I'll have to use what I have.

>>8558957
Ftm. My bottom dysphoria fluctuates. Sometimes it's so bad I can't masturbate. Sometimes I can have PIV. I pack most days, since it helps with the feeling of something missing down there. With testosterone we get growth of the clitoris and it resembles a natal micropenis about 1-2". Getting this growth helped a lot with my dysphoria.

Pregnancy repulses me. I could never carry a baby.

>>8567749
It could be that way but when I was like 4 I hated my dick and wanted to chop it off. Nowadays I don't mind it. I'm repressing though, so you'd do well to take this with a grain of salt, after all, if what an earlier poster said about genital dysphoria becoming a thing 6-9 months into HRT, it might come back if I ever fall for it.

Srs isnt good enough
I have a partner and she treats me like a woman, with a penis. We use it in sex and it doeant make me feel any less valid because she makez sure of it.
Im not goimg to deprive her sexually when it still works and feels good.

t. 5month on hrt 20 y old stealth mtf

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>>8571815
>Pregnancy repulses me. I could never carry a baby.
If I was female, I won't mind, take in the crap and prepare myself for childbirth.

I don't hate my genitals 24/7, that's a meme that's inaccurate for most trans folk I'd say, but during sex and stuff I've never got off by someone touching me there and get uncomfy af

I have to say that every single day of my life I'm glad I got SRS. Simple things like taking a pee, putting on panties, or seeing myself in the mirror when I get out of the tub are a breeze now, when before they were a constant source of stress. No more having to worry about unsightly bulges ever. It's great!

>>8558957
I find it absolutely awful even imagining having sex with anyone bc I hate my body that much, how's that for dysphoria?

>>8571560
That's just what others have said to me, it makes my stomach knot hearing shit like that. To hear that others think the body, that, makes me want to shoot myself, is something I should be happy with simply because its aesthetically pleasing to them. Probably what pushed me to become a neet, I fucking hate people, but I understand that they don't get how terrible they sound to me (I know some do). If I even see my body without my binder/boxers on I get nauseous and lethargic. Its why these little girls make me so mad, they don't experience any of this but they pretend to go through the same struggles I do.

>>8559013
This.
I wish I had a vagina but I'm not getting SRS any time soon.

>>8571815
I feel the same desu

>>8574317
Do you have a discord? We can talk about other problems and stuff too.

>>8574317
Why is the sight/thought of your body so unpleasant?

t. mtf who doesn't like her body but doesn't feel nauseous about it either

>>8559708
Your relationship sounds so cute! Fucking life goals there.

>>8558957
I never even masturbated in my life but no one believes me.

Who the fuck cares? My boyfriend finds my penis very sexy and I love fucking his mouth and ass. You bitter hons deserve chasers creeping on you.

Because I'd rather hate it and have feeling down there, than risk losing sensation by having SRS. Not to mention all the other risks and problems, or it looking horrible. Besides I hate my balls to be honest, a dick I can hide no problem, my balls just piss me off, gross hanging bag of meat. Eww

>>8578540
Get an orchi.

>>8558957
I've been wondering this for awhile now. Among the younger generation it seems like "trans" and "queer" are buzzword terms to label yourself to be cool with an in-crowd when in reality you just like to dress or cut your hair differently from time to time.

This is why nobody takes people under the age of ~25 seriously and, consequently, why they don't take identity politics seriously.

SRS is a fucking joke.
Trannies learn to live with what can't be fixed.

>>8579039
I can't tell you how much it angers me. I was having an argument with someone over whether or not we should outlaw hate speech (this was brought on by the KKK protesting legally in the state I live in.) I don't think speech should be limited past what we already have.
They said the only reason I could defend that is because I was a cis-white male. (I'm FtM) Once I pointed out that I was trans.
I pointed this out and the responded with "Ok but if you present masculine then do you kind of see what I mean?
I am a AFAB femme presenting NB"
What I don't understand is how someone can think it's the same. She doesn't feel wrong she presents as female and is okay with that.
Sorry to rant They aren't the same as trans they aren't transitioning.

>>8578540
Balls are the worst.
I have no idea why so many mtf's try mutilating their dicks. Like do they have no basic understanding of human biology? Your dick does fuckall it's your testes that make you a man

>>8559367
>3. The difference between the femininity/masculinity of the body and genitals makes them feel more special and attracts more partners.

good meme,tons of people want nothing to do sexually with trans people

>>8579551
I can understand an mtf not wanting SRS. I can't understand someone not being able to understand why an mtf would want SRS.

>>8579769
I was referring to how many young trans people attempt to cut their dick or mutilate in some form yet nobody ever bothers to touch their nuts.

>>8565775
pretty much. Unless your dysphoria about it is extreme, it only makes sense to go through the procedure as the 'final part' of transitioning.

>>8579785
because the dick is what scares away their male lovers.
the balls just look like saggy labia.

>>8579805
What kind of vaginas have you been looking at?

>>8579785
Oh, OK. I agree, it makes no sense to go after the dick and not the balls.

>>8579826
vaginas != labia

>>8579880
Labias don't look like balls at all unless your vag has been destroyed by horse cocks

>her penis
>every gay man begging for him to pound their pussies
I'm not even that much of a /pol/tard but what the fuck