What do they mean by this. Ive been told a couple times here that women naturally have wider hips than shoulders and in order to pass you must achieve this too. But am i looking at this wrong? I do not see many women with smaller shoulders than hips unless they were really out of shape/bottomheavy by wide do we mean the length from shoulder to shoulder or from front to back of the collarbone?
Females don't have hips wider than their shoulders, but their shoulders are more narrowed than males. Fat distribution also has a play in making the hips wider on females.
>>8552717
Women = hourglass
Men = Triangle
>>8552717
Goddamn is Mal t h i c c.
>>8552808
Upside down triangle
>>8552717
You're probably looking arm to arm not shoulder to shoulder. A lot of MTFs measure incorrectly and after a while you have to wonder if it's intentional or something psychological causing it.
>>8552815
>>8552823
Plenty of cis women are also upside down triangle
>>8552831
Would measuring from the shoulder bone to shoulder bone be the most ideal answer to your width?
>>8552717
I'd actually kill someone for her to sit on my face.
NSA it's probably time you came and picked me up.
reminder that the average cis woman is proportioned like this, and most images of "beautiful womanly proportions" you see are highly photoshopped
>>8553706
>most images of "beautiful womanly proportions" you see are highly photoshopped
But not all.
>>8552717
In general women do not have wider hips than shoulders, contrary to what the BDD teenagers on this board say
>Male SHRs (M = 1.18 ± 0.071, range 1.03–1.40) significantly (t = 10.41, P< .01) exceeded female SHRs (M = 1.03 ± 0.066, range 0.90–1.22)
https://www2.psy.uq.edu.au/~uqbziets/Hughes2003%20-%20Shoulder%20to%20hip%20ratio.pdf
>We obtained the following mean and standard deviation (SD) values for Australian women (19–45 years old, McLennan and Podger 1998): height (163.1 +/- 5.2 cm), waist circumference (77.1 +/- 9.6 cm), hip circumference (101.0 +/- 9.3 cm), and shoulder width (43.3 +/- 2.3 cm).
http://beheco.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2009/05/21/beheco.arp051.full.pdf
Additionally,
>Variable ... Measurement of Most Attractive Figure
>...
>Shoulder-to-hip ratio ... 1.135
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19319075
>>8553805
>tfw 1.16 SHR
What does it mean?
>>8553833
it means you're within two SD of average female SHR
>>8553706
hahaha
you are wrong
>>8553805
Circumference isn't useful. Anyone could tell you that men have larger hips. It's another example of how MTFs change the question so the answer affirms their results.
>>8552717
Fat
>>8552831
Measuring from shoulder to shoulder is hard, while arm to arm is easy. I doubt there's much more going on.
>>8553473
What's your sex, gender identity, and sexual orientation?
You will never be women
I mean live and let live, it's not my concern and you're entitled to be happy
However stop demanding I call you she, it just wont happen my dudes
>>8558677
>However stop demanding I call you she,
When you pass, you don't have to demand.
>>8558697
Post pic, linetrap for example who gets posted all the time on 4chan is pretty fucking gross
>>8556793
The way way MTFs report on things should be approached with skepticism because of their nature to change things to validate their gender. We know it happens and there is even very obvious example of that in this thread. We can only speculate why they do it but it's really obvious that they do it.
>>8558951
What are you even talking about? What the hell is "arm-to-arm" as opposed to shoulder-to-shoulder? Please explain, because I'm confused.
>>8558955
People on this board go fucking insane with their star gazing, it's really creepy. Note the royal we.
>>8559038
>Note the royal we.
Yes, we know you're insane.
>>8552717
I don't even know how you some people can just generalize like that. I see more women with equally wide shoulder and hips or wider shoulders. Physical constitution is a spectrum. There will be extremes on each side, just like male body shape. There's manlets and there's lankets, there's guys with super wide shoulders and then there's guys with smaller shoulder to hip ratio. Not everyone looks like male and female anatomy atlas models, most people are inbetween.