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estradiol snug as a bug in a rug under your tongue edition

• Makeup tutorials : http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
• Male vs Female measurement data: https://www.bwc.ohio.gov/downloads/blankpdf/ErgoAnthropometricData.pdf
• Correct hormone levels:http://www.hemingways.org/GIDinfo/hrt_ref.htm
• Checking your levels:http://www.privatemdlabs.com/lp/Female_Hormone_Testing.php
• Transition time lines:http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• Voice Training:https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ske7b/mtf_voice_training_regimen/
• Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
• IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg

Previous thread >>8550694
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>>8552267
ew dont headcanon scooby he's my boy
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is super eurobeat trutrans?
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I don't know what keeps me going.
its obvious that I was never going to make it; too old, too poor and too mannish
not to mention too stupid
the only thing I have is the curiosity of how I would look with weight loss and I am a failure at that too wish that something I did worked for once in my life

everyone here laughs at me or ignores me, you all have fun and happy lives full of youth and prosperity and I am an obese man with the frame and hairline of a balding rugby player

I wish I had a future
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>>8552288
dont worry
im pretty young and maybe have a chance of passing, but I also have no education (didnt finish HS or even get anything at all from it), no friends irl, only an online relationship bound to fail if I dont get my shit together, no job, no prospects and Im extremely rusty with the only thing im marginally employable at, which just so happens to need a degree, but im too mentally ill to get my shit together and get a degree rn.

so, youre not alone, maybe among the trips, but i feel you
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i wish there was like a tranny version of goodwill so i could donate like 75% of my makeup and more than half of my clothes to girls who could use it lol
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if i drink with friends am i going to end up telling all of them that i'm a freak
i've never drank before
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>>8552296
probably
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>>8552296
Last time I got drunk I deep throated a can of coke and passed out with it in my mouth.
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>>8552303
hot
i vomitted up the walls in front of my mom and bragged about my guitar skills even though im awful
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>>8552303
lmao you're straight
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>>8552293
set one up
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>>8552308
lol no
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>>8552310

what would i call it do u think
"the salvation tranny"
"shim will"
"shemale thrift"
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>>8552297
>>8552303
maybe i shouldn't do it then
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Wtf did hrt do to my fucking cheeks
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>>8552324

i'm pretty sure whatever insane japanese editing program you used did that, not hrt
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>>8552323
I haven't drunk for years now.

>>8552324
Idk, does it make them puffy or something?
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>>8552317
lmao
whatever you come up with will be fantastic I'm sure
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>>8552328
are you afraid of how alcohol brings out your hetero slut side
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>>8552333
No, I just used to over drink and it wasn't healthy, so I quit.
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>>8552288
huggs <3
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>>8552334
seems awfully convenient
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>>8552338
Falling asleep with a phallic object in my mouth does not make me straight okay?
Jeez...
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>>8552293
The local LGBT group does something like that twice a year.
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>>8552340
y-yes of course
do you have any boy friends
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>>8552351
I have one friend, who is male.
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>>8552357
do you ever hug him or kiss him as a prank?
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>>8552357
No, I don't like being touched and he's a guy.
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>>8552367
its just a prank bro
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>>8552369
Rood
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When I'm on hrt Im not concerned at all with being a girl

Maybe I should quit
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do u ever feel dysphoric but then realize that like
you could have legitimately been a hon who not only spent 30-40 years as a miserable male but who also never had a chance at living as a woman at your age
and then realize that ur just being an idiot and that you should feel lucky if anything lol
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>>8552402
>I feel better now so I can quit
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>>8552407
hmmmmmmnmmmm >>8552288
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>>8552409

sheen is more of a cautionary tale when it comes to waiting than she is hopeless tbqh
she's depressed (for good reason since life has been awful to her at times) but otherwise passes as a woman her age
but having the opportunity to be on hormones younger than 30 and being able to choose ur life in general is a luxury a lot of our predecessors didn't have at all
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>>8552293
donate some to me plz.

>>8552407
Yes all the fucking time, its pretty much the one thing keeping me sane. I actually complained about my life once at an trans meeting everyone was older than me apart from one person and they told me even though i had bad stuff in my life i was being a big baby. So its kinda sobering but then again its not like younger trans people cant be in pain or suffer, all our lives are fucked, its not like any of us are what we want.
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>>8552414
Yeah, I feel a bit shit sometimes that I only just started at 24, but you're right, others have had it a lot worse in the past.
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>>8552418

what's ur skin tone/measurements?
and ya i mean it's not oppression olympics, we alllllllll still have bullshit we have to go through. i just meant more the sobering thing.

>>8552420

imagine if we were born 100 years prior we wouldn't even have had the option of HRT at all
like we were born at a pretty convenient time for this shit
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>>8552414
Check out my progress, lol. um no makeup and no photoshop.
https://unsee
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>>8552422
mm, I feel a bit guilty when I get depressed, knowing that I have it so much better, but at the same time I can't help it. I guess being a tranny is just a confusing mess desu.
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>>8552418
hey proxie, if you ever need some help with econ/financial stuff I just want to give you the heads up that I have a MsC in Financial Administration and will be happy to help. :)
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Can I still be happy, a female, and find love with my voice right?

This is the voice I am currently doing right now, and strangely enough, despite it not being as high as I would want it to be.
I feel comfortable with it.
https://clyp.it/5y4ztz4f
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>>8552436
practice :(
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>>8552428

i like ur brows!!!

>>8552430

it's ok to still feel shitty about urself!!!!!! i do all of the damn time and i know i'm luckier than some girls
i think it's more nice to just have perspective to help alleviate the shitty reality than anything else yknow
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>tfw spent the morning crying over heartbreaking shelter animal videos on YouTube
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is /tg/ stuff a good place to meet boys
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>>8552407
>>8552418
>Starving kids in Africa
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>>8552436
Lmao you sound like a dude who's been punched in the face
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>>8552442
thanks! :)
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>>8552430
having it better doesn't always mean you have it good
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>>8552456

that's the other thing lol
i made like 700$ last night in 2 hours and because i was dysphoric i barely got any joy from doing well at work and was just
depressed? but then i realized that i'm a fucking idiot and i pulled myself out of it
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>>8552455
Yes. /tg/ boys are more likely to be bi/GAMP and less likely to be transphobic.

Maybe this isn't PC to say but they're also more likely to be desperate, lonely and affectionate.
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>>8552455
is 4chan a good place to meet boys?
i mean. uh it can happen, but generally, no.
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>>8552456
let them starve, they just end up growing up and making more starving africans
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>>8552466
yeah thats more or less what I was thinking. and I like more story-based RPGs so it could work

>>8552468
I meant like IRL traditional games stuff, y'know like table tops. not literally the board /tg/
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>>8552464
>hate myself
>think im a disgusting hon
>guys pay me hundreds of dollars to see me on cam
feels weird.
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>>8552461
Oh I know lol
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>>8552473

right lol
like i should get some sort of validation out of it at least but at this point i don't and i have to just be confident and work on myself i guess
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>>8552446
well at least you did something this morning
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/hrtgen/ is too slow so im reposting here

its really hard to import drugs and medications into my country and even normal stuff over the eqivelent of $30 need to pay at least 30% import tax.
im only 17 and many local suppliers require you to be 20 to buy this stuff. even then parents would look at my mail.

wat do? i dont want to wait anymore desu
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>>8552483
yes you should
become the qt botanist housewife/mommy you want to be
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>>8552486
go to a doctor
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>>8552486
where do you live?
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>>8552490
thailand
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>>8552497
>I can't find HRT
>In Thailand
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>>8552497
don't you have any 20 year old or older friend who could buy it for you?
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>>8552498
theyre everywhere desu its just that im not old enough to get it
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>>8552501
Yes but he says I will be killed if I become gay

>>8552498
That's Malaysia your thinking of
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>>8552501
>friends
what are those?

really, all my friends are from school
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>>8552503
>That's Malaysia your thinking of
Thailand is known internationally for Kathoey
pretty surr Malaysia is really strict on non presc drugs
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>>8552503
are you gay? if yes then move to a better place some day where it is ok.
>>8552505
sometimes you meet someone who likes listening to the weird things you say so they want to meet up with you again
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>>8552472
oh, lol. nevermind then. I've never been in that scene.
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I've figured it out
Faye is a gay boy who dates women and likes being pretty and called a girl especially when she dresses like a boy
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>>8552472
Same people.
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>tfw you open your Hanna folder
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>>8552422
pale and tall lol, idk.

>>8552431
impressive! please teach me sass sensei.

>>8552456
I get it someone always has it worse or better.

>>8552527
nailed it.
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>>8552407
implying there aren't mtfs that look like that at 20
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>>8552407
other peoples shitty lives dont make my shitty life any less shitty
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>>8552709
:) whenever u need me!
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>tfw you switch to cyproterone after years of spironolactone and finally suppressing testosterone into female levels causes 10 lbs of weight gain

kill me pls
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>>8552735
women have more fat then men, duh
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Morning nerds
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>tfw your going to be a wife one day
:)
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>mention i have a straight cis bf in reddit

agressive tranny hons demand i become a transbian or date ftms and accuse me of transphobia for not being attracted to other trannies

Why are transbians so fucking autistic?
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>>8552749
c-can you be my wife?
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>>8552527
DELETEEEE
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>>8552762
no, sorry
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>>8552765
Hey Faye, how comes I've never seen you post a good photo of your feet before? Can you justify this?
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>>8552761
>admit I have cis girlfriends on 4chan
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>2 transbians 1 month hrt and boys clothes that love their penises falling in love
>otp, tru love, so cute
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make spaghetti in my ass
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>>8552774
Yes lord beepes
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wanted to say that like ily you all and you've been a great support group and watching everyone starting turn into girls with me has been great
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>>8552317
just 'shift'?
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>>8552761
i promise i won't deride you for the crime of being straight
>>8552767
:(
>>8552774
hi beep
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what do i do about boys being super horny but me having the case of cypro-libido
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>>8552788
Are you trying to top boys?
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>>8552794
no this guy just constantly sends me horny messages and wants me to sit on his face but i just want to cuddle
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>tfw severe mental illness that never goes away
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>>8552822
i'm trans too
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>>8552527
Faye is a man child, str8 dude
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>>8552822
iktf
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>>8552822
tfw severe sexual fetish that never goes away
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>>8552822
it'll go away if you kill yourself
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>>8552778
call me mr president
>>8552783
henlo
>>8552840
cute boy
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good morning faggots
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>>8552407
>you should feel lucky if anything
lmao no, Id be lucky if I was a super ugly manly man because then Id simply kill myself but instead I have a chance and have to suffer through this.
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>>8552878
it ain't good, it ain't morning and i ain't no stinkin' faggot

three strikes and you're out
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>>8552761

they're just jelly you're getting that fat dick, anon, ignore them and keep up the good fight
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>>8552727
k now!
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>>8552882
You could just be a coward and go on femboy mones like me

Avoiding all the problems of social transition and basically cheating dysphoria

like I'd pretty masculine but since I operate on male standards I don't feel bad, because I can go around town with a scowl to my face and never worry about how I'm walking or my mannerisms
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>>8552761
>things that never happened.

Is there ever a day that goes by without someone bragging about sucking dick like its a fucking achievement lmao.
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Am I ever gonna make it
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>>8552909
probabee
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>>8552909
you will mom!
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>>8552909
Of course you will, Grace.

If by "it", you mean "a giant mess of everything".
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>>8552901
I should do this...

My dysphoria is mostly hormonal anyway.
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>>8552914
I feel like that's all I'm good at and will ever achieve. It's foolish of me to think any different. I'm destined to fuck it along up.
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>be out in girlmode
>give boy name by mistake
>nobody questions it or gives me a weird look or anything

>be out in boymode
>give girl name by mistake
>same thing, doesn't get questioned

What does this mean
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>>8552925
it means you're androgynous. well done, you're halfway there.
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>>8552901
Nah I already changed name and gender and I wouldnt be happy living as a guy.

> never worry about how I'm walking or my mannerisms
Thats weird. my walking and mannerism was always girly and I had to train to be more manly to not get bullied in school.
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>>8552925
That you probably pass for either.

The fact they didnt question your girl name though is really positive.
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>>8552922
At least your clumsiness with life in general is endearing and cute.
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>>8552931
Yeah I think I'm more cis than I think

If I was truetrans it wouldent be worried about it
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>>8552935
I don't want to end up homeless and alone, that isn't cute.
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>>8552941
But you have a good support network of friends, so that's not likely to happen. You could always just move in with Kari if you got kicked out of home.
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>>8552928
>>8552932
Wew
I wish it was easier to know if I really actually pass, and am not just meeting cis people who are nice (or ignorant)
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>>8552931
>glasses in a passport photo
wait a minute, is that even allowed
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>>8552946
Yeah, I guess so. I just worry that I'd fuck that up to somehow.
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>>8552948
I guess the doubt is always there.
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tfw im a girl.
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>>8552936
Arent you either cis or trans? Theres no spectrum :P

>>8552954
it is in Germany if you can see the eyes clearly.
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>Talking to tranny from LGBT group
>Mention that I want VFS
>She says the gender clinic offers voice training
>I explain that voice training was a disaster hence why I'm going for the surgery
>She stops talking to me
Me and Faye have encountered so much salt over this, when I get my new female voice I'm going to post it all over /mtfg/ and bathe in your tears.
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>>8552965
Thats not very nice of you.
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>>8552965
Yeah I had another tranny keep messaging me just to make me feel bad about getting VFS.
I think its jealousy.
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>>8552955
Just collect some good dirt on her, so if she ever tries to drop you like a hot potato, you can threaten her into staying your friend.
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>>8552965
Why would people get mad youre getting vfs...

If anything they should be happy for you.
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>>8552977
hey franzi, can you record a voiceclip of you saying words that germans find hard to pronounce like "squirrels" and "strengths"

even after all this time, i don't think i've ever heard your voice (never-not-once)
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>>8552979
I'd never do that to a friend. I can't even bring myself to do that to an enemy.
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>>8552981
>If anything they should be happy for you.
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>>8552988
Ask again in 2-3 months :P
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>>8553002
hmm, let's call it 2-3 weeks and spit shake on it
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>>8553011
I surely wont post my voice literally one week before my surgery
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>>8553000
A friend is just an enemy you haven't pissed off yet, Grace.
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>>8553018
How cynical, my friends are far more than that. Back to workkkk.
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>>8552948

tfw
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>>8553015
if you ask me it's a very good idea, because you could have like a "voice timeline" whereby you showcase the progress you've made with your voice

it'll encourage other trannies
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>>8552981
/mtfg/ has been calling me lazy for wanting VFS for ages. I forgot the term for this; when someone does something the hard way therefore they feel that everyone else must do it the hard way just because they did.
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>>8553029
That and they can't afford it so claim the surgery is shit.
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>>8553027
just look here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIE5I2Dm808

>>8553036
its pretty much the same with all surgeries, be it ffs, srs or vfs
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>>8553043
>just look here
thanks franzi, but i'm mostly just being disingenuous because i'm curious about your voice
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>>8553043
SRS especially.
>"It's just an open wound!"
>"Can't pop out babies so what's the point!"
>"Mutilation!"
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>>8553057
>>"It's just an open wound!"
I saw a thing about that, is it true or was it a scare piece?
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>>8553052
look in the archive

>>8553057
Yes the open wound things is the best.

>>8553068
Does this look like an open wound?
http://www.supornclinic.com/restricted/SRS/Results.aspx?fn=SRS_Cosmetic_Results_2.jpg
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>>8553068
I mean, it is kinda like an open wound, in the sense that you have to keep dildoing it otherwise your body will seal it up again. Not an open wound in the sense that it's like, raw and bloody like someone's just stabbed you though
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I keep having dreams about being sexually assaulted. :\ I swear I never had dreams like this before I started transitioning
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>>8553074
hugg
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>>8553077
Thats not entirely true. You have to dilate because you have to loosen the muscle inside you because otherwise they would pressure the canal and it would collapse.
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>>8553076
>you will never have a suporn pussy
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>>8553076
>look in the archive
huh, i missed that somehow

musta been busy that day or something
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>>8553091
COKE IS FUCKING GREAT
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>tfw can never be good enough for someone
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>>8553076
>>8553099
>>8553091
I thought I wanted srs, but the use of cypro proved that to be a fetishistic desire and now I react with horror and disgust to the thought of srs
It's great to find out I'm not trans
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>>8552965
Calm down kayla
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>>8553119
>tfw too good for everyone
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>>8553119
Same.
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>>8553099
>snorting cocaine
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Who here /disgusting/?
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What does tttt stand for
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>>8553196
it's a joke, referencing the fact that /lgbt/ seems mostly to be filled with trannies

so people call it /tttt/ mockingly
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>>8553190
I'm a fat neckbeard, I'm as disgusting as you get.
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>>8553196

Superiority of will in the face of overwhelming odds.

>>8553217

Stick your cheese puff stained fingers in my mouth.
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wooshe
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Where do you draw the line between recognizing and being alienated by the negative aspects of masculinity and identifying yourself physically with the opposite gender?
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>>8553119
iktf
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She left ;~;
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>>8552909
You're gonna make it
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>>8553279
I told you to get in the luggage ;~;
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have your daddy and your og daddy ever met?
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>>8553269
gender dysphoria
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>>8553269
if you crashed on a plane as a 0 year old and somehow survived by yourself (being raised by wolves or whatever if you can't accept that premise) would you still feel like you were in the wrong body? then you're trans, otherwise you aren't. Sure, that's not something you can know conclusively, but understand that you really shouldn't transition if the only factors are social factors like "wow, I do things girls do, I must be a girl"
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>>8553360
how do you know if you have GD?
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>>8553382
therapist
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>>8553382
In my case
I spent last night sobbing and wishing I could be a girl because I HATE being seen as a guy.
Genital dysphoria is also a thing, but mine decreased a little bit because I lost hope in gettinf SRS lol
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>>8553382
Go on hrt.
If you feel better after getting more feminine you may have GD.
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>>8553396
I haven't spent nights sobbing (took the 'boys don't cry' thing to heart as a kid), but I have stayed up all night thinking about how I'd rather be a girl more than once.

>>8553399
I want to. Can't yet due to money, but the idea of being more feminine makes me feel better, if that counts for anything.
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>>8553406
Estrogen also makes me cry easier tbqh
But yeah I kinda really wanna die p badly because of this feeling of wanting to be a girl :3
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>>8553424
Fair. I think I took those kinds of things to heart as a way of repressing desu.
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>>8552105
who do you miss?
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>me, 20 yo, 5'11, mostly passing
>no real problem with finding clothes that fit me
>have US size 12 feet tho
>can't find shoes that fit anywhere except from converse
>can't find cute socks that fit either

what do I do?
can you people recommend anywhere that sells in giant size??
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>>8553537
In the UK, we have a special shop for tall women called Long Tall Sally, there are probably shops like that in the USA
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Are there any more recent transition timelines from here? The ones in OP are 4 years old at the latest.
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spoiler alert
you won't pass
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>>8553553
way ahead of you, anon. i already am at the point where i don't pass.
>people look at me though not too much
>my shrink tells me i should try make up again because it would help me pass
>try some black eye pen, liquid foundation and lip gloss
>"that's a guy"
fuck this shit, that never happened before. no more make up!
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>>8553578
Contouring, anon. Contouring.
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>>8553584
looks difficult
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>>8553553
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNvib6mhSkw

>tfw you take femgen hrt
>no social transition
>no boobs, no way for anyone to tell you are trans
>get to retain access to homo sexual marketplace
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Kill all weebs
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>>8553604
what was that, anon?
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>>8553604
why tho?
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>>8553578
How long HRT?
>>8553584
If she can't get foundation and eyeliner right she will most likely fuck up contouring.
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>>8553612
11 months
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>>8553602
But boobs are amazing.
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>>8553617
Over a year here, don't pass either.
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>>8553619
The social consequences of them override any gender euphoria they could have brought

Rather play it safe and be a cute gay guy than be a manly girl
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>>8553609
Kill all weebs

>>8553611
Weebs are cancer
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>>8553650
are you sure?~
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>>8553650
What if you're not a weeb, you just use anime reaction images?
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>>8553650
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>>8553659
there's no difference desu
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>>8553650
but I need weebs they tell me interesting stuff
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>>8553602
>take normal hrt
>no social transition
>boobs and stuff in boy clothes
>get gendered female anyways
>don't have to settle for creepy gay guys
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>>8553664
>there's no difference desu
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>>8553643
>Being a black guy
>Being cute
This is why I quickly gave up on /femgen/ repression and just started transition.
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>>8553677
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My father taught me the cure for dysphoria

Ice cream and mayonnaise
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>>8553685
I was going to make some comment about "The war between chocolate and dysphoria" but really chocolate is just a weapon dysphoria is using against me
>tfw you know you're going to shit over your diet by eating pizza at work tonight, so the only thing you've eaten all day is water and 1 (one) string cheese
>>
>>8553674
gay guys treat me better than chasers would I imagine

And as a boy I can get away with being male and male standards
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>>8553685
You just get larger and end up more dysphoric.
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>>8553703
Don't get a chaser bf, just get normal cis male bf then.

It's not like chasers are your only option, assuming you can pass.
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>>8553703
>settling for chasers
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>>8553685
mayo is really gross :c
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>>8553657
Yes

>>8553659
Still a weeb faggot

>>8553670
Weebs need to be euthanized
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>>8553719
I wish *I* was euthanized tbqh
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>>8553709
They are harder to impress than gay guys

Gay guys find my masculine (what would be non passing if I socially transitioned )features attractive

>>8553711
All trans attracted men are chasers to me. Gay guys are genuine in their like for men

I wouldent have to trick them or lie to them to get them to like me
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how do i get a chaser???
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>>8553728
Chaturbate and Grindr Porkie.
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>>8553735
those are gross i don't want a relationship based around sex
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>>8553724
>settling for men
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>>8553724
>chasers are hard to impress
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>tfw too beta to act as a man
>tfw not flamboyant enough to act as a woman
Anyone know this feel?
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>>8553741
>i don't want a relationship based around sex
As tranny I think that's pretty much all you can ask for.

>>8553747
>being a dirty transbian
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>>8553763
no i can ask for a relationship where i get to be called an adorable little kitten since I'm a cute tranny
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straight men wanna plow but wont introduce you to their friends and family

gay men will misgender you and wont encourage your fem look

chasers are alpha men unaffected by the gaze of their peers and will talk you out of ruining what makes u special

chasers it is
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>>8553724
>All trans attracted men are chasers to me.
>My feelings are facts.

And what of the, say, dom bisexual men who don't care which organ you have? The ones who'd not date a tranny because "hey, girl with a penis" but rather because they find you aesthetically pleasing regardless of what you are?
>>
>>8553763
>>8553767
>men
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i think im gona give up eating meat
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All this anti-chaser rhetoric is tearing our community apart. End chaserphobia before it ends us.
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>>8553766
There are no cute trannies. Trannies can't do cute.

>>8553769
That's even gayer.

>>8553774
>transbians
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>>8553784
transbians>men
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>>8553784
>tfw cute tranny
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>>8553784
So, fucking someone because they're pretty and have a hole, basically, is gayer? Despite the fact that they have no interest in your useless dick?
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>>8553747
I don't like girls
And even if I did I'd be far too insecure to persue them.

>>8553748
Straight men are. That's why you need to be a cis girl to get one.

Gay guys are easier because they LIKE masc features and people who are identifiably male

>>8553767
I misgender myself so it's all good

>>8553769
I am too cynical to believe that. I don't even view myself as female
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Hate being like this.
>>
I'm not a chaser but I can pretend for (you)s
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>tfw hetersexual virgin guilt

This means I can't be gay or trans right?
Only a man would care about not being inside a woman
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>>8553836
*the doors of the girl factory open*
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Greetings from fit. Is this where I get a qt trap gf?
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>>8553757
I'm in that weird in between phase too
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>>8553781
I'd rather end chasers with extreme prejudice.
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>>8553843
They're a necessary evil, we just have to learn to live with them.

For some people, knowing that they're AT LEAST desired by chasers is the only thing that keeps them going.
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>>8553849
Evil never is necessary. It should be stamped out.
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>/acsg/ Autochorissexual general

has /lgbt/ gone too far this time?
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>>8552267
Looks like me :-/
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>>8552761
>autistically screech "I'm not a transbian" at a joke
>"I h-have a boyfriend"
>" I only date cis ppl"

They don't hate you for having a boyfriend or not dating them, they hate you for being an insecure mess who can't take a joke and shits on trans men because you're being too serious.
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dysphoria and depression and anxiety got me like
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>>8553852
MTFs and chasers exist in a comfortable symbosis where the chasers reinforce the self-esteem and confidence of MTFs, while the MTFs post cute pics that chasers fap to.

It's the circle of life.
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>>8553852
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I said goodbye to my niece, nephew and mom today. It was pretty touching. I'm gonna miss my niece a bunch. I also packed up some girl clothes even tho it's gonna be hard to attempt to present. Apparently I have New England family which is good news. Im so excited to leave and adventure finally

Pic related is blood on a McDonald's wall
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>>8553808
>I am too cynical to believe that. I don't even view myself as female.

And that's why you have to settle. You've already given up. I've noticed with several MtF's that their self esteem is in the fucking garbage, so they'll take just about any scrap of notice or affection they can get from just about anyone.
To me, if you're going through the effort of treatments and the likes, you're a girl. And besides that, most guys like me treat partners of either gender like straight men would typically treat a woman in a relationship. To my understanding, that what most of you want anyway. My advice, really, is not to settle, if you believe you deserve better, you may eventually find someone who is. Of course, life isn't some fairytale where we always get exactly what we want in the end but it never truly hurts to try.
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>>8553863
you're cute, keep going sweetie
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>>8553863
Why do you look so haggard and scruffy lately? I remember seeing pics of you like half a year ago or something where you looked so much better
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>>8553886
I live in a car and shower 3x a week at most
>>
am I a chaser if I don't care for sexual stuff and just want a loving relationship with cuddling
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>>8553889
I'm gonna be honest with you, that doesn't sound an ideal situation to be in.

How the hell did you end up homeless?
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>>8553382
>>8553406
>>8553432
it feels like this, to me
http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/8173263/#q8174397
http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/8173263/#8174404
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>>8553903
Well that's a long story and it's just dumb drama
Last chapter of it involved me throwing a bite of scrambled egg at my sister who called the cops and got me kicked out. So I've been living in my car since late May to save for a trip somewhere new.
>>
>>8553882
I'm not an mtf

I'm a man with dysphoria who treats it with medicines that provide me with minimal physical changes and provide only mental soothing
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>>8553889
Why are you rocking ugly button shirts
>>
>>8553946

i think because she's poor and homeless valq
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>>8553942
You socially present female and have boobs

No one can tell I'm trans cause I keep my hair short and I'm on femgen meds
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>>8553946
I like em
When's a good time to hang out with you after Tuesday?
>>
Me and an indie filmmaker friend want to make an abstract 5-10 min short of footage shot ourselves overlaid with narration of people describing their experiences with the onset of gender dysphoria, realising what it is as per >>8553918 and the nether zone between realising you're trans and starting transition. There's so much focus on the social, inspo-wank aspects of being trans in society nowadays in the media, me and her both feel we need to do a little something to remind people of the medical, psychological basis for transition and the reality of gender dysphoria behind the fluff so we don't get people de-medicalising trans issues like "we don't need better access to healthcare, you can be a beautiful woman without hormone therapy!" etc. etc.

There's a detailed post on Tumblr but it's got both our real names in it so PM me on discord if you wanna know more or want to submit a voice recording of yourself to be used in the short. All submissions will be credited as Anonymous unless explicitly asked otherwise. :)

Discord: Rrobynne#3144
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>>8553952
But they're ugly and she's employed enough for savers or ross
>>8553954
Ummmmm.
My parents are comming to see me on Monday
(First time in 3 years, they've only seen pics and still refer to me as their son)
So,
Basically
The week after next.
>>8553953
No I don't
U do
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>>8553955
There should be a documentary about repgen and how repression is a heroic act
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>>8553953
>femgen meds
You mean SERMs?
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>>8553970
Yes
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>>8553972
God bless failed cancer meds
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>>8553967
D:
Can we maybe just meet for coffee or dindin maybe?
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>>8553790
That is simply not true an you know it.

>>8553791
Riiiight.

>>8553807
They are interested in your asshole - which is pretty fucking gay. In fact that's the only thing they are interested in. The femininity, something which is supposed to differentiate you from the twinks, is irrelevant to these mythical bisexual men.
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>>8553880
>blood on a McDonald's wall
That could be a song name.

>>8553827
Being a tranny? Or something else?
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>>8553840
yes it is
im a qt trap
>>8553985
it's true
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>>8553988
Porkie, pls, por favor... this delusion is not good for you.
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>>8553998
tfw im saved on his computer as cute(3).jpg
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Oh, my heart, it breaks,
Every step that I take.
But I'm hoping at the gates,
They'll tell me that you're mine.
>hopingggggggggg at theeeeeeeeeeeeee gateeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssss
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>>8554002
who's cute(1) and cute(2)?
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJlGXlNgtok

>tfw Music powers your repression
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>>8554012
me n me
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>>8554020
pookie confirmed to be a horse
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>>8554022
accurate
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>>8554012
i don't know who cute(2) is, but i know who's 2cute

(it's you)
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>>8554019
Shieeet nigga, I thought you hoped back on whoremoans.
>>
grace
>>
Pooki is a hydra
'tis week to fire, Arisen
>>
grace
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>>8554036
th-thank you anon
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>>8554050
i can't help it, i see a lewd pun and i have to take advantage of it
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Good afternoon girls
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>>8554048
>>8554039
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>>8554056
goodnight
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>>8554056
Good morning, do you feel better after sleeping?
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>>8554062
grace!
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>>8554040
grace
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>>8554062
are you seeing your gf today
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>>8554069
whts up
>>8554074
weave's on her way over, not my gf tho!!
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>>8554075
i really like grace
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>>8554075
r u sure bout that
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>>8554062
*boop*
>>8554063
You heading to bed? :3
>>8554068
I slept pretty poorly but emotionwise i'm fine now (except a passive feeling of dysphoria i'm trying to not think about) last night i had pretty bad insomnia couldn't sleep for almost an entire hour then i finally fell asleep I'm going to likely do my morning routine, do some practice clean up and head out to get the ribbon before the store closes.
>>
>>8554075
Hey Grace, would you be able to clarify the nature of your relationship with Weave, just so there's no ambiguity here?
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>>8554068
This inability to sleep was after i took like 4 melatonin
>>
:(
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>>8554082
why
>>8554088
>>8554093
her and i are gonna clarify things together tonight
knowing me i probably just got stupid ahead of myself and overly excited and stuff..
>>8554091
boopers
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>>8554075
>kisses
>cuddles
>sleepovers
>spending days together
>both of you fags post about "how much you can't stop thinking of each other uwu"
yeah ur totally not gfs lolz
>>
>>8554101
>her and i are gonna clarify things together tonight
ayyy
>>
>>8554091
it's like 10pm here
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>>8554101
>her and i are gonna clarify things together tonight
Am I supposed to read this post with ominous overtones, or with a *bow chika wow wow* noise in the background?

I can't wait until you have a girlfriend again.
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>>8554103
i mean...
i dont know
>>8554106
?
>>8554113
Ominous.
>>
what is a weave
is weave kari
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>>8554120
all I know is weave is getting throated by grace tonight
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>>8554101
i like grace because grace
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>>8554091
I'm glad you are feeling better, yeah insomnia is a bitch, my meds don't work anymore, so I just have to deal with it.

I hope you like your ribbon, I've never tried wearing one haha, don't think they'd suit me.
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>>8553939
Alright, if you're a man, you're a man. Doesn't change the fact that you'd hardly be seen much different from anyone else, though, I can understand it being difficult. Tussling with any type of dysphoria sounds like a grueling task.
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You're all gonna make it
>>
Tell me my gf is pretty
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>>8554132

That picture is spooky.
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>>8554116
>Ominous.
Interesting. I'm curious about how this will play out.

Nothing good ever comes from putting things off anyway.
>>
>>8554132
including you :3
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>>8554138
Oh no
You're all gonna make it 100% non-spookily
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I'm just going to stay a boy while taking hormones forever.
Its really the only option I have.
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>>8554145
ok
be my bf
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>>8554137
She has pretty legs
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>>8554107
oh sorry its like 2 or 3 pm here Goodnight tho <3
>>8554101
:3 I hope you do alright I'm really emotionally paralyzed and lost what to say ;~; but i gotta get ready soon getting anxious about going out.
>>8554120
i have no idea
>>8554126
Thanks I don't know if it suits me but i have a feeling it might also i'm going to do my morning routine its just hard to do something because as soon as I want to take an action or do something the dysphoria/depression turns from a passive feeling to a "grip" that just keeps me in place -_-
>>8554132
probably not me ;~;
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>>8554123
oh
>>8554113
>I can't wait until you have a girlfriend again.
??????
why
i didnt notice this at first
>>8554140
yea, if it gets put off my heart will just be hurt more
when she gets here we're probably just gonna cuddle and nap for a while until i get too hungry to ignore and we figure out dinner
'tis how we usually do it!
>>8554145
"boy"
>>8554150
you gonna be okay? whats making you anxious about it?
>>
yea weave is kari
>>
>on bus heading to city centre
>stuck in huge jam just 10 mins from home
>get of bus, some festival closed off road
>thousands of scantily clad young women as far as the eye can see
>not only did I have to abandon my journey I had to walk through this
>fuckhuge compared to all of them
Some of you guys are alright, so long space robots.
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>>8554147
ok but call me your gf in secret so I can appease my mental illness.

>>8554151
(male)
>>
>>8553983
I mean sure,....
Why are you in my area then, anyways?
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>>8554151
I don't know My feelings and insecurities are trying to keep me in one place like they always try to do when i want to go out.
>>
>>8554162
>ok but call me your gf in secret so I can appease my mental illness.
I'd love to honestly
>>
>>8554151
>why
You have a more interesting life when you're in a relationship with someone. There are more ups and downs and just general stuff going on.

>when she gets here we're probably just gonna cuddle and nap for a while until i get too hungry to ignore and we figure out dinner
Good plan. I hope you prepared the "Grace gf" sell to her and aren't just going into this blind though.
>>
>>8554162
What are those 2 girls doing?
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>>8554148
She fucked this female yesterday
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>>8554143
This is a no ":3" zone
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>>8554170
i havent got a clue what im doing anymore
sorry that im boring
>>8554166
Fuck 'em. They're just feelings.
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>>8554151
get a bf not a gf
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>>8554175
Topkek
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>>8554176
:3
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>>8554179
So you put no preparation into this at all? What if she starts listing counterpoints to being your gf that you can't refute on the spot?
>>
I'm in so much pain, fuck my life.
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>>8554150
Well it's good to try something at least, I've surprised myself with things I didn't think I'd like that I ended up liking. Experimentation is good.
I thought bangs wouldn't look good on me but I really like them.
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>>8554179
I thought she liked boys
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>>8554176
>>8554184
:3
>>8554179
I'm going to head out now but i'm gonna head out after i get ready and drink some coffee :3
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>>8554196
she shouldnt be if she doesnt wanna be
>>8554201
probably does
ill find out later
>>8554203
good luck lily!
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Grace is gay.
For girls.
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>>8554203
lol redundancy derp
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>>8554203
Have fun :P

>>8554206
Chloe a cute
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>>8554206
i'm an emotional wreck that'll easily fall in love with anyone
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>>8554206
Grace is only half-gay. Unless you're using gay as an insult, in which case, yes, she is gay.
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>>8554210
Yeah I wish I was Chloe.

>>8554211
Especially other girls.
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>>8554164
I'm taking 90 and 94 so idk but itd be cool to see u
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>>8554219
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>>8554219
I'll let you know as soon as I know wtf is up with my parents
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welp my clone's here, and she brought the same exact fan i have to replace my old one
and she brought hugs
her hugs are amazing
byeee
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I wouldn't be able to get back before sundown if i went on foot ;~;
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>>8554238
Goodbye Grace. I await your return eagerly.
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>>8554238
wtf I want hugs.
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>>8554218
At least we get to play as Chloe in the next game, that'll have to do I guess.
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Well my moms going to get me some city buss pass soon enough Its just I hate being like this to where i really can't do much I want to get started I want to get all of this going Its just The only thing that holds me back is time ;~;
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I regret getting my orchiectomy and I want to die more than ever

I still smile at people but I'm dead inside and waiting for my body to catch up

xd
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>>8554256
You type very strangely, Lily
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>>8554254
There was some 20 minute long preview gameplay of it that was nice and triggering for me. Cant wait to play it!
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>>8554264
why do you regret it
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>>8554265
I'm Tired and suffeirng caffiene withdrawl and i have almost no social skills ;~;
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>>8554254
>at least we get to play as worst girl for a game that was half as long as the previous one
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Some one smoke with me
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>>8554273
SHIT TASTE REEEEE
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>>8554275
Is that what Mexicans call bud?!
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>>8554284
almost everyone calls it bud
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>>8554284
It was a lot for 5$

Like we've gone through 4 blunts this is what's left
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>>8554283
>my best friend left me all alone abloobloobloo
>you left me too max abloobloobloo
>my step-dad isn't cool abloobloobloo
What an annoying and whiny character, I'm glad Max finally started calling her out on her bullshit towards the end of the game.
>>
>>8553988
Contact details?
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>>8554290
Right on
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why do trans girls seem to jump from relationship to relationship constantly?
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>>8554272
That's okay, almost nobody here has any social skills either.
>>
I wish it was a year ago
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>>8554310
because they are all sluts and whores
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>>8554313
me too
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>>8554310
borderline personality disorder brought on by hormone imbalances
sluttiness brought on by low self-esteem and low self-worth
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>>boyname your hair looks so weird and unkempt right now
>>you looked so much better last year when you cut your hair clean and short. you always look the best with your hair cut really short.
>shows me picture of me at a party
>i look dead inside and extra uggo on it
>>look how beautiful!
y
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>>8553985
>They are interested in your asshole - which is pretty fucking gay. In fact that's the only thing they are interested in. The femininity, something which is supposed to differentiate you from the twinks, is irrelevant to these mythical bisexual men.

So you're going to assume what it is I like? That's awful bold of you. Asshole, Pussy, either one can be used to find release for both parties, doesn't make much difference to me. Bi is a bit of both as it is. I'm able to find masculine and feminine traits appealing, my personal tastes stem between...I guess what would be called an 'otter' all the way to a thick cis woman. Lots of variety and of course just because I'd be in favor of someone with more feminine traits to kind of counter balance my masculine traits as a preferred doesn't negate my attraction to strong jaws and other such traits.
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>>8554324
You look qt don't worry
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>>8554311
Okay :3
>>8554310
I usually shut myself out of relationships except maybe a couple of friends (but i'm not able to see them regularly) ever since about 5th and 7th grade i found myself incapable of love Either I hurt them really badly because my mood changes so fast and i can act like a child sometimes ;~; or they hurt me badly and stab me in the back.
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>>8553985
>They are interested in your asshole
to be honest, butt stuff kinda grosses me out
i don't understand the anal meme
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>>8554264
no sympathy
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>>8554264
what happened to your gf?
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>>8554348
Come to LA

My gf fucked her yesterday
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>>8554353
LA, London, wherever I go I'll still be a fat square-jawed man
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>>8554348
Ever wonder why no one likes you?
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>>8554356
Hmmm

Stop being insecure lol smoke some weed or something.

Love yourself
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>>8554326
aaaaa thank you
y-you too~
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>found some emails I sent to the child psychologist when i was 13
i'm goign to cry
i could have been an early transitioner if the NHS wasn't fucking shit
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>>8554360
Bieberboy
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>>8554324
iktf
my parents say this is the the most handsome photo they have of me, taken days before I started uni 4 years ago
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>>8554363
Hugg
It could always be worse
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>>8554324
Ill just tell you if i didn't shave Id look like a freaking sasquatch and i'm not even understating that.
>>8554363
This brings up some feels in me..
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>>8554367
You looked like the sort of person who chains Albanian girls to radiators and gets them addicted to heroin in order to make them have sex with gang members.
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>>8554358
Haters gonna hate.
>>8554360
Maybe I'll try repressing by taking testosterone
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>>8554363
this is really sad :(
and yes things could be worse, you can still make it in life
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>>8554363
What happened as a result of those emails? Did they just try and give you therapy or something, but not give you HRT?
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>>8554381
Remember to wash your wig after every few uses.
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>>8554388
>tfw never washed my wig
>tfw it smells like roadkill
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>>8554363
Young transitioners trigger me.
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I don't feel welcome here
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>>8554401
good thing 4chan doesn't allow underage users rite
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>>8554401
What doesn't trigger you these days?
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>>8554363
In better news I saw a special doggo today and it's almost fun fair time again
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>>8554367
>>8554377

I wouldn't go that far, but the tache was a mistake.
>>
I'm going to go take a shower
>when you've gotten no one to even talk to you half the time you're here
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>>8554387
i got referred to the gender clinic in london where they told me I couldn't get HRT until 16
this was like 2009, so just a few years before puberty blockers started to see use here

>>8554401
same
watching early transitioner videos while crying is my favourite pastime
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>>8554422
straight up bomber command 1944
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>>8554401
im unironically triggered by males with girlfriends
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>>8554405
Is it because not enough people are posting anime pictures?
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>>8554426
Lily is what my parents were going to name my brother if he was a girl.
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I've gotten pretty fat lately
I love doggos
I got to wrestle one this morning
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why does my sweat still smell like boy
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>>8554431
pssst we need to talk more on discord !
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>>8554446
Someone told me it can take a few years
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>>8554429
That kinda sucks, but starting at 16 really isn't that bad either. Still an early transitioner.
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>>8554429
I tried when I was 18, after self-medding for several years. Was told under 25 was too young in any case. I've hated gatekeepers ever since.
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>>8554450
you keep saying hi then vanishing. Ill install it on my phone if you promise to stick around
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is it weird that i'm kinda sad about throwing away 75% of my makeup and like 60% of my clothes lol
i literally only wear 25% of my makeup and i wear the same clothes all of the time so why do i care about getting rid of useless shit?
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>>8554463
having options feels nice
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>>8554463
>wearing the same clothes everyday
I thought you were cool Edie.
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>>8554463
I don't throw away anything. I have clothes I'll never fit into again. Twenty years old mascara I'm keeping for sentimental value. You probably can find a healthy middle ground.
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I have way too many clothes to travel with
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>>8554405
huggs

>>8554422
it stopped people asking if I was gay because of my feminine (for a guy) mannerisms and stopped my dad being utterly obsessed with the possibility of me being gay or trans for the rest of high school til I left for uni
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>>8554461
Hmmm true.
How often do you get on?
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>>8554474
I have so many clothes it'll be an issue when I sell my house.
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>>8554466

i guess but i don't rly wear a lot of makeup anymore and i don't need heavy drag coverage and idk
i lost 15 lbs so half of my clothes are baggy anyways even if i wanted to wear them lol

>>8554471

>me
>cool
how often do u think i leave the house exactly lol
it literally have 3 laundry baskets because of how many clothes i own but it's not like i'm wearing them anywhere!!!!!!!

>>8554473

i don't think that's healthy tho
i just have a ton of clutter
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>>8554452
well I didn't start until 18 because I thought post-16 would be too late so i'd just have to repress forever until i kms
and in that time I became unpassable basically
but yeah it could be worse

>>8554453
it's ridiculous senpai
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Is Shakira the dumbest trip?
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>>8554487
no grace is
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>>8554486
Gatekeeping was that horrible in the 90s. It has changed. But still not enough.
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>>8554491
Carth is.
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Just a question Is there such a thing as too much conditioner?

>>8554437
Yeah I loved that name It meant pure innocent sweet, and one of my favorite flowers. ;~;
>>8554434
No It's because i've stumbled from abusive group to abusive group and i generally have this subconsious feeling I generally have pretty thick skin but the feeling wears me down and turns me weak and thin skinned its also because I try to talk to people only to get no response but it only effects me when the feeling has eaten enough away from me. alot of people say why i attract abusive people is because i'm too much of a doormat or i'm too nice (not sure if theres such a thing as too nice)
>>8554476
*hugs*
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>>8554487
>>8554491
I think Grace acts like all ditzy cuz she thinks real girls act like that. And post shitty anime pics. Both are far from truth.
Shakira is legit not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
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>>8554508
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>>8554491
Grace is endearingly stupid though, and almost everything Shakira posts is half-shitpost.
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>>8554503
Yes, there is. Too much will just gunk up and weigh down your hair.
>>
I am the dumbest trip
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>>8554503
>(not sure if theres such a thing as too nice)
There definitely is, fyi.

Better toughen up now before you turn into chaserbait for abusive types.
>>
>hello, sir
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>>8554519
It's true.
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>>8554308
StarKitten#1770

if u don't ave duiscord don't talk to me u peasant
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>>8554519
L I E S
I
E
S

ur a smart grille honestly desu
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Hi everyone.

I hope you all have a successful transition and go on to lead a happy life.

Sorry for being so negative. I wish I could be a better person.

Goodbye.
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>>8554528
BACK OFF
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>>8554532
I'm not sure I like the tone of this post.
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>>8554405
Ayy you are, you just got here, but you're like one of my fave posters.
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>landlords with whom we applied for a lease haven't given us a solid yes or no for almost a week
>room rentals get snapped up before we even get a chance to physically see the place same day or next day
>landlord with rooms for rent above a chinatown store that have windows looking out into the fucking indoor stairwell of the apartment, that have been vacant for months given the "room for rent" sign sitting outside the store since fucking March, would rather let them sit vacant than take rent money from people on welfare
>place we're in is getting torn down on the 15th and we're technically occupying it illegally just so we can stay off the street while trying to find a place so we're not on the street in the future

if you promise to be a good gf to tetra and to love my cats like they're your own children, i will let you pay us a year's rent for the opportunity to compassionately kill me
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>tgfw new Frozen short in Autumn
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>>8554480
Maybe once or twice a week.
>>8554487
>>8554508
>>8554515
I genuinely do wish I was dumb.
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>>8554516
Okay Because my hair was getting more weighted so i skipped the shampoo and conditioner today and just brushed my hair (my hair is starting to look more girlish just not long enough on the back end but too long on the front ;~;)
>>8554522
I will toughen up or try to I generally stand up for myself when i feel like i won't end up happy or the person is actually using me it just takes a depressive episode or two for me to figure out and tell the person to screw off.
>>8554532
/hug ;~;
>>8554539
Thanks I think that post was my insecurity talking it generally does that Because i don't feel comfortable in my own body or comfortable in general i begin to hear irrational thoughts about how they all don't like me and tries to find any atom of evidence it can find.
>>8554549
No id rather pay off the rent and let you live there too if i could ;~;
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>>8554550
REALLY?

i mean c-cool
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>>8554532
Where are you going and why are you going there?
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I love Shakira
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>>8554562
Yee it'll be played before that new Disney animated flick which I now have to go see because of the Frozen short.
The dresses look awful though which is a shit.

Also coronation hair down is best Elsa and if you disagree you have shit taste
>>
>>8554560
If you want to keep long hair healthy, don't use shampoo more than twice a week and conditioner more than every couple days. You can wash it with just water in between and do a light vinegar rinse if it gets too greasy. But hrt and not abusing your scalp should make it grease up much more slowly.
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hi. how are we all doing?
i'm doing ok, i guess.
my mind is being blown right now tbdesu.
so i explained to my radical right-wing bro what my ideal socialist society would look like, local management, justified occupational hierarchy, hard-on for bakunin, not trusting marx, chasing bolsheviks away, doing volunteer work, encouraging others to volunteer, & all the rest, & apparently, i'm not good enough @ wanting socialism. :/
which is kinda weird to me b/c i learned all the ideas i was professing toward him from other the logical concusions based on the musings of other self-styled socialists, like badmouse & libertarian socialist rants.
i'm really confused 6_9
>>
I love Anna
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>>8554550
That reminds me of a story about when i was in disneyworld But it wasn't quite related to frozen but it was with a princess.
>>
>>8554550
post pic
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>>8554572
https://youtu.be/XO3mrFNCeLk
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>>8554569
I hate Shakira
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>>8554577
I love Myrthe

>>8554578
I wish I could meet Anna and Elsa :(
I'd cry really hard and make a fool of myself in front of an endless queue of girls and parents but it'd be worth it

>>8554579
why I already said I looked the same.
>>
>>8554587
>why I already said I looked the same.
dont belief u
>>
>>8554575
he says i am accidentally right-wing while trying to be left-wing.
i don't even
>>
I Love myrthe
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>>8554549
but i don't want tetra, i want bexe
can we swap her and you around in this arrangement
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>>8554590
Myrthe agreed with me

>>8554596
HEY BACK OFF
>>
>>8554575
you sound like hitler
>>
>>8554575
>>8554595
more like nat soc senpai
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>>8554574
okay thanks i'm still keeping my hairbrush near me whenever my hair gets out of whack.
>>8554587
yeah my story is kinda similar
>I was in disneyworld with my mom
>almost every other princess i had refused to give me a hug
>I began to felt depressed in the line to meet merida
>cried a little bit and lamented to myself about being unable to get a hug
>and how much I hated being a boy and wanted to be a girl
>no one else in lthe line heard me because there was a kid they were occupied with keeping from crying
>Merida overheard me
>Merida when she met me actually gave me a hug
>I almost cried right there.
>>
>>8554560
Well I think you're pretty cool :P

>>8554572
Yeah I like that hairstyle, I tried it but my hairlines shit, so i do it with bangs.
>>
>>8554602
>Myrthe agreed with me
dont blieve u
>>
this feeling of totally fine being male while on hrt and hating while off cycle has to end
>>
>>8554606
qt
>>
>>8554602
Also how do you feel about the fact that Tangled got a TV show and Frozen didn't?
>>
>>8554590
>>8554609
believe me then ok?

>>8554587
Best feel tbqh senpai

>>8554596
;M;
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>>8554560
i don't even care about living anymore, i just want my cats to not get shoved into a cage and be at the mercy of random adopters and possibly be separated for the first time since birth, and tetra to not be put out on the street

>>8554597
if you have me you have to have tetra and the cats, they are non-negotiable
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>>8554560
Don't take this the wrong way or anything, but you seem like the sort of person that's easily lured into the back of a van with the promise of candy. I still like you though.

By the way, do you want some candy?
>>
>>8554621
>believe me then ok?
niope duin beliefn u neither
>>
>>8554615
it ends when you stay on and take your skittles like a good girl
>>
>>8554603
>>8554605
really? ;~;
but i don't really trust nationalism that much.
much less do i want to kill people.
really, a war for me is just an excuse to go out & become a casualty
>>
>>8554622
>if you have me you have to have tetra and the cats, they are non-negotiable
ok fine, but tetra has to go out at night to poop and we'll let her back in in the morning
>>
>>8554606
>merida
>>>MERIDA
MERIDA IS NOT DISNEY REEEEEEEEEEE
IT'S AN ABOMINATION THAT SHE HAS BEEN CORONATED A DISNEY PRINCESS AS SHE IS FROM A MOVIE MADE BY AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT ANIMATION STUDIO
I HATE BRAVE, I HATE PIXAR, AND I HATE EVERYONE WHO CALLS THEM DISNEY MOVIES

>>8554607
Also you probably don't have even a 3rd of that amount of hair lol.

>>8554615
amy pls

>>8554609
's true

>>8554618
I wish I had more Frozen content but at least all the content I'm getting is high budget stuff
>>
This place sure is silly
>>
>>8554624
aw :c
but y
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would u consider it detransitioning if everyone still sees me as a girl even tho i wear way less makeup and unisex clothes and stuff and feel like less of a girl now than before
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>>8554630
we'll get her a litterbox

also the cats need free-reign entry and exit at all hours of the day
>>
>>8554631
I like real princesses better. Well, this one at least.
https://youtu.be/7EzKZpg-cVg
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>>8554626
thats because you believe in history as it has been told rather than the facts as they happened
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HWxKahieBY
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>>8554625
hmph...i just feel so fatigued and afraid to change, mental relief is enough...

>>8554631
GODDAMIT
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>>8554607
Thanks ;~;
/hug
>>8554617
I'm cute?
>>8554631
I hate merida and brave too but the person who acted as her and was playing as her in the park was a nice person :3
>>8554622
/hug ill be here for you if you need it
>>8554623
No thanks but I can generally spot people who are fake unless i am in a vulnerable mood.
>>
>>8554644
Nope. That's just normal for a woman.
>>
>>8554644
no
i don't think cis girls who wear little makeup and unisex clothes are any less of girls
i really think you mix up gender expression with gender identity
>>
>>8554646
you're real demanding for someone in such precarious circumstances, bexe

if i were you, i'd be more mindful of your bargaining position and not take advantage of my generosity
>>
>>8554626
unironically watch this senpai
>>8554650
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>>8554644
Posts like this make me wonder if you're retarded.
>>
>>8554649
Real life princesses a shit

>>8554651
Nigga it's too obvious

>>8554652
Oh then we good!
It was a cute story but Merida and Brave trigger me a lot
>>
>>8554655

hmmmmmmmm

>>8554657

i more mean that my expression has changed because of coming to terms with my identity and what makes me comfy and wanted to know how that factors in based on ppls perception
>>
>>8554631
I mean my hair is halfway down my back, but I do want it to be longer.

The show is pretty good, but yeah, I'd like an actual sequel.

(Sorry Punzie is my favourite Disney Princess)


>>8554652
*huggu*
>>
>>8554644
Iktf
even though im nowhere near as far into transition as you are
i already threw out my most "girly" clothes and put makeup on hold
But detransition is not an option for me personally because I suck at being a guy and not much would change in general :3
>>
Hello
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>>8554644
its just whatever
>>
do i really sound like a nazi when i go on about bakunin?
that was about the last thing i would expect to happen

>>8554650
ok, are you actually trying to convert me to nazism?
1st of all, i'm an anarchist, 2nd of all, i don't want to kill people
>>
>>8554673
no, just giving you the facts
Hitler was the good guy of WW2
>>
>>8554673
please just watch it ;~;
>>
>>8554673
Not a Nazi. A puerile leftist. That's not any better. And not socialist.
>>
>cant ride a bike
>never had sex
>never had a bf
>never been overseas
>never seen snow
>never been on holiday
>bad person
>obese
>dumb
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>>8554658
i'm not asking for much, we already have a litterbox to provide for the household, all we need is a 6-inch hole in the bottom corner of the front door

>>8554652
ty lily, even though you're nowhere near us let alone a landlord it's nice to know someone gives a shit
>>
>>8554673
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>>8554667
>tfw shaved my head in November so have short hair now
I had beautiful long hair reeee
>>
>>8554683
it will be back, dont fret
>>
>>8554678
ok, now i'm really confused.
are you saying that being a leftist isn't socialist?
>>
>>8554688
Yup.
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>>8554681
>i'm not asking for much, we already have a litterbox to provide for the household, all we need is a 6-inch hole in the bottom corner of the front door
all i need is your 6 inch hole

i live in an apartment anyway and the front door only opens out into the hallway, so i don't think this arrangement is going to work out, rebecca
>>
>>8554686
Yeah, in 2 years :(
>>
>>8554679
you can always work on doing new things and becoming a better person each day
>>
>>8554691
well shit, i don't really feel like giving up bakunin & ostrom just so that i can call myself a socialist
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>>8554669
Hai ^_^
>>8554665
yeah we're good I like frozen its one of my favorite disney movies it's just there are two elsas one whos not very nice and another whos super nice but i think they change the actor person every so often.
>>8554667
:3
>>8554681
thanks Ill be here to talk though if you need it I don't want to see someone miserable it makes me sad.
>>
>>8554697
I am sorry that was probably our fault
we were trying to get you to see that you were repressed and you cut your hair off to prove us wronk
>>
>>8554697
hugg
>>
>>8554668

ye i'm at the point now where if i don't try at all i still get gendered female so it just is what it is
which i guess for someone who wants to look more androgynous and has a dick is a good thing?? idk i'm indifferent lol
but i guess idk what ppl would consider detrans territory

>>8554672

tru..
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>>8554696
ok hear me out

we buy a bunch of very wide-diameter hamster tubes

and a nail gun and some super glue and some wood

and we construct a series of extra-wide hamster-tube stairs externally from your apartment window to the ground floor

>>8554702
same for you desu
>>
boys are so horny
>>
>>8554709
Growing a beard and a beer gut.
>>
>>8554709
cut your hair off and stop taking hrt
then we will talk
>>
>>8554702
Do you live in Orlando or something?
I'm jealous you got to meet them :(

>>8554707
That's indeed literally what happened
but it's okay I don't blame you
I'm even more miserable now but I can handle it haha
>>
>>8554715
gib up da pucci
>>
>tfw you give someone Lucy and they realize how much they hate grace

They sure had a lot of shit to say
>>
>>8554665
its breaking me :(
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>>8554719
No I live in the western part of the US I just was there for a month almost a year ago.
>>8554713
/hugg
>>8554727
*hug* I know how you feel
>>
>>8554716
>>8554718

but i wanna look more like dis
>>
>>8554733
I'm still jealous
I've never seen Elsa and Anna ;_;
>>
>>8554713
how about we just rent one of those storage units and put a blanket in there for tetra and she can sleep there with the cats on the comfy stone cold, rock hard floor

everybody wins that way
>>
Why are all lesbians fat? I'm in the city centre where there was a pride march a few hours ago and every woman I've seen draped in a pride flag has been fat.
>>
>>8554736
Andrej a cute
>>
>>8554742
Really? Most lesbians here are either slim or buff, not fat.
>>
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ok, i really need someone to explain this to me, cause i really don't get it.
how do i become anything other than a socialist by following the ideas of badmouse productions & libertarian socialist rants to their logical conclusions, & believing in said logical conclusions?
i really don't understand
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I'm beginning to remember hating being a boy so much i did questionable things that could have done seriously bad things to me oh and i forgot to mention i'm bi (i'm not even sure if I can be trans and bi at the same time)
>>8554738
You will eventually :3 just focus on what you're doing in your life and keep going and you will make it
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>>8554740
how about we move into your apartment with our cats and pay you a $75/mo stipend to live in a storage unit with a LAN internet connection and a fluffy blanket

>>8554733
be good lily
>>
>>8554736
At least you dont look like me.
>>
>>8554751
Libertarian socialist is a contradiction.
>>
>>8554743

righttt
i just want a more female-than-male, rly andro looking face and a rly skinny model type body
which is what i look like without makeup anyways esp since all the fat around my jaw and stuff is going away
so i just gotta keep losin weight and bam i'll be 100% happy instead of 80%

>>8554763

idrk what you look like but we have entirely different aesthetics anyways don't we?
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>>8554762
I am good though I try to be good ^_^
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>>8554771
>Libertarian socialist is a contradiction.
no it isn't, the term "libertarian" @ its conception was a euphemism for the anarchist left, & then it was appropriated by the right
>>
>>8554754
You can be anything, being trans has nothing to do with what kind of people you are attracted to. Just be you.
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>>8554771
but libertarian socialist is the most concise label for my politics
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>>8554772
Don't starve yourself for it, but looking like what you want to be rather than what others want you to be can only help you feel better.
>>
>>8554782
Anarchism isn't socialist at all.
>>
>>8554772
Hmm, I'm the opposite, I need to thiccen up a but, want curves. I'm on the edge of anorexic levels in term of weight.
>>
>>8554793
not even anarcho-communism?
>>
>>8552773
sometimes i feel i h8 u
>>
>>8554762
>how about we move into your apartment with our cats and pay you a $75/mo stipend to live in a storage unit with a LAN internet connection and a fluffy blanket
i'm starting to think you don't like me very much and that there's no room for a ménage-à-3 with you, me and miss third wheel over there
>>
>>8554798
Nope.
>>
>>8554787

because i have crohn's disease i don't need to starve myself to lose weight, i dramatically lose it if i don't eat 2000+ calories a day while on high E dosages as it is lol

>>8554797

i'm tellin u, injections
i used to be dangerously overweight but mones made me gain like 25~30 lbs
>>
>>8554810
so what does that make you?
>>
>another relationship that ended in a month
seriously am i ever going to fucking spend more than two months in a fucking relationship
jesus christ
>>
>>8554772
lol we have similar aesthetics
>>
>>8554811
Yeah, I will try for injections, but for now I'm self medding while fucking gatekeeping goes on.
Hopefully once I go legit I can get them though.
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>>8554808
>ménage-à-3
>doesn't know "trois"
see this lack of french knowledge and exposure is why you all think my alias is pronounced "bexy"
>miss third wheel
don't make me put you out in the rain overnight

>>8554798
anarchy leads to oligarchy
>>
>>8554820

i didn't know dat

>>8554823

oops totally meant underweight in my last post btw loll (i just felt dangerously overweight at 145 compared to 115)
it's a shame that they don't sell E injections online anymore for the girls that wanna be thicc ://
>>
but i guess my hair is curly-ish
>>
>>8554824
Your alias is pronounced Bèxé.
>>
>>8554754
>I'm not even sure if I can be trans and bi at the same time
I can't see why you couldn't be both
>>8554808
I wish we could all just be comfy together but I'm starting to think you don't like me very much either...
>>
>>8554824
>>8554833
>ywn watch Frozen and eat pizza with tetra and bexy
>>
>>8554827
maybe i just thought like being Mediterranean/latina would equal to mex/iranian. lol my hair is curly-ish so nevermind.
>>
>>8554824
but i speak french fluently (maybe i can teach it to you and we can make fun of tetra in front of her)

i'm just exploring our options, i'm sure we can still make room for her in our lives
>>
>>8554827
It would be a lot harder to ship lol, needles would look dodgy as fuck.
>>
>>8554832
how is my alias pronounced im french?
>>
>>8554827
HRT didn't make me gain weight but the combination of psychotropic meds and quitting tobacco certainly did. In a really bad way. Though people seem to think I look better like this. I disagree. I was too thin at one point, obviously, but I feel borderline fat now. Wish I could lose weight easily but well, I'm getting old so I know it's only going to get harder.
>>
>>8554833
>I wish we could all just be comfy together but I'm starting to think you don't like me very much either...
i was just joking, i'm not really trying to steal bexe from you, that would be ridiculous wtf
>>
>>8554824
o, i see.
so you'd rather have an oligarchy of the coordinator classes.
bolsheviks out (ノ`△´)ノ
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Needles scare me I don't like injections (*_*)
>>8554833
Yea ^_^ just my insecurities makes me doubt myself even when i know what i am inside.
>>8554785
Thanks my insecurity was beggining to make me doubt myself..
>>
>>8554849
Well, sasstéhème.
>>
>>8554866
lmao. I luv u so much. I'm drunk btw
>>
>>8554858
do you want to gas bolsheviks or something?
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it me
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>>8554889
Hai ^_^
>>
>>8554838
If we manage to not die we can try to make it happen, I'd like that a lot
>>8554857
I kind of figured, but if she likes you I don't want to deprive her, it just wouldn't be right.
>>8554862
>tfw yktf
I hope you can learn to be more confident in yourself and who you are
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>>8554875
no, just chase them away.
we can't have bolsheviks participating in our revolutions for the municipalities of local areas.
the only socialist societies that didn't kill their own people were worried about their own little villages.
& they were always killed by statists
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>>8554832
i swear to GOD

>>8554838
maybe one day, unless you have something against pineapple on pizza

>>8554846
i'll have you know that any 3-person bed arrangement has her and i next to each other

>>8554858
the coordinator classes and their oligarchy will always try to fill the void of power and control, in this case created by anarchy

anarchy provides no protection from entities filling that void and is highly susceptible to localised profiteering and buying-off of support, since humans are beholden to their emotions and selfish instincts

anarchy leads to pockets of syndicalism and communism, and our bio-psychology lends them to self-arranging into internal power structures, and the people in power can be easily bought off

for all its flaws, democratic capitalism at least affords some kind of explicit error-correction in having elections and regulatory bodies, but even those are just a simple moat waiting to be crossed by someone who's friends with the bodies that the regulator regulates

what i'm trying to say is that depressive realism is reality
>>
>>8554840

my aesthetic is like smack dab in the middle between andrej pejic and angelina jolie so idk
i love really long thick straight hair and a strong jaw with androgynous features that are more female than male but still like
really androgynous and just pretty but not cis or necessarily female. femininity but not womanhood if that makes sense lol
and i hate being a blonde so that's a no go

>>8554847

needles are hella easy to order!! idk where u live tho so maybe it's diff where u live?

>>8554854

if you wanna lose weight then you should! i hated being 145 but most of it was inflammation from crohn's lol
when i stopped eating bad food i lost 7-8 lbs quickly then have just continued to lose it from there
>>
>>8554889
you are the best of all the people sheen
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>>8554896
whats yktf? I will hopefully eventually be confident enough in myself I'm confident i'm trans and bi but Idk when i start to feel dysphoric some thoughts try to get me to doubt it and when my dysphorio goes away for a few minutes or so (it comes back trust me) i begin to doubt if i ever had it in the first place (that could be the dysphoria itself saying that lol)
>>
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>>8554824
>my alias is pronounced "bexy"
i-its not?
>>
>>8554896
>>8554904
I wish you lived in Europe so a plane ticket would be somewhat affordable >:(
Pineapple on pizza isn't my choice but it's Canadian heritage so you're allowed to eat it
>>
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I miss her more than anything
and she won't ever want me back
>>
>>8554896
>I kind of figured, but if she likes you I don't want to deprive her, it just wouldn't be right.
i'm a cis male and i live on a completely different continent thousands of miles away, so unfortunately i will never own bexe

at least i have my shitposting though
>>
>>8554914
I thought Canadians ate only spaghetti pizza?
>>
>>8554915
iktf
It's been more than half a year now
>>
>>8554906
NZ, apparently there's a 50/50 chance that I'll even get my HRT in the mail. My AA arrived, I just hope my E does too.
>>
>>8554915
At least she's not dead.
>>
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>>8554911
the second e is silent

>>8554914
have you ever had a pineapple pepperoni bacon black olive pizza?

>>8554920
that's a victoria bc thing, probably on account of all the foreign residency
>>
>>8554896
Oh i looked it up derp -_-
>>
>>8554920
I unironically love spaghetti pizza.
>>
>>8554915
Why did you break up in the first place?
>>
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>>8554914
oh so its like pronouncing desu as des
ohayo BEXe-chan!

>>8554929
>bexe likes pineapple on pizza
there is a reason why I think you are good ppl :)
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>check time after napping with weave for 2 hours
>check mtfg
>sure have missed a lot
>>8554723
what to heck is lucy
>>8554508
>cuz she thinks real girls act like that.
No anon I'm just like fucking dumb fuck you
>>
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>>8554927

>>8554915
count your blessings
>>
>>8554906
>not wanting to be a blonde
omg would you deny your mexican heritage?

but
like seriously. I guess I'm just figuring out my aesthetic.
>>
>>8554939
Well, Grace? Did you straighten things out? Smooth things over? Are you now in a relationship?
>>
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>>8554941
Hi emma :3
>>8554939
/hug
>>
>>8554932
*gibes u death state
>>
>>8554909
That kind of thing happens with other mental illnesses too, it's pretty unfortunate
>I feel better, maybe I'm not depressed so I can stop taking these antidepressants
>tfw they don't actually help you but that's not relevant to the example
>>8554930
Now you know~
>>8554914
Maybe someday we'll be doing so well we can afford to go on a vacation! That'd be pretty crazy. If you're ever around here feel free to swing by, provided we actually have somewhere to swing by to.
>>8554918
RIP
Sorry anon. I hope you two can at least share that
>>8554929
>pineapple pepperoni bacon black olive pizza
>pepperoni instead of mushrooms
Silly girl
>>
>>8554958
I'll try!
Distance sucks, /mtfg/ village when
>>
>>8554939
you are Izumi more like it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGPT4L-78oo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATxmEYTJaug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9B29hkyhCs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZulU5Ts6eg
>>
>>8554951
uhm anon we're getting spaghetti
>>8554953
/hug
>>8554964
we just talked about that last night anon!
>>
i did it again
i fucked my shit RIGHT up
uwu
>>
>>8554957
*force feeds you spaghetti pizza
>>
>>8554967
hot
>>
new
>>8554965
>>
>>8554966
>we just talked about that last night anon!
yeah but it was cute and true and I liked that discussion
>>
>>8553918
Huh.. sums me up to a T, actually. Sorry, was doing the MtG prerelease all day
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