/mtfgen/ be honest to your doctor edition

I'm excited to include this in my medical records forever

>>8543082
Where do you live that you have to fill out these forms?

>>8543148
I'm poor so clinics that especially do trans stuff have stuff like this, collecting demographic information is mandatory of all Federally Qualified Healthcare Centers to receive funding

>>8543402
Do they ask your orientation?

>>8543422
yes, you don't have to answer honestly but frequently they do

>>8543431
What's their justification for that?

I wish I had a support system

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>>8543513
I feel the same anon

>>8543513
I'll be your support system.
Are you having trouble with your agp? Have you tried pulling the card out and reinserting it?

>>8543582
agp?

How are you supposed to tell youre AGP or HSTS?

I tried to come out as a small child but got screamed at and beaten and wound up repressing it hard until I left home. Now I'm having to work out what I am and what I'm attracted to and it's very confusing. I thought I was into girls when I started transition but now I'm not sure if I was faking it because I'm very much into boys now

pls help me /mtfgen/ :(

>>8543717
hormones change your orientation.
that's normal.
give it time.
you don't need to choose.
just date who you like and see where it goes.

>>8543717
What age did you try to come out?

What crossdressing have you done?

How feminine were you as a child?

>I thought I was into girls when I started transition
Very likely AGP.

>>8543725

>What age did you try to come out?

Tried to come out to family at 3 or 4 or so, got yelled at. Tried again around 10, got beaten. Didn't bring it up again to family until I was 21 and had been on hormones for almost 2 years

>What crossdressing have you done?

Had basically no privacy, so zero until I was out of the house and actively transitioning anyway

>How feminine were you as a child?

As much as I could without getting screamed at. Which wasn't much, since I'd get it for sitting "like a girl" in church if I sat with my knees crossed instead of ankle on knee.

>>I thought I was into girls when I started transition
>Very likely AGP.

That's what I thought when I started too, but now I have almost no interest in women at all, which confuses me

>>8543761
>Tried to come out to family at 3 or 4 or so, got yelled at.
What exactly did you do to come out?

>Had basically no privacy
What would you have done if you had had privacy?

>As much as I could without getting screamed at.
Which was?

>but now I have almost no interest in women at all,
Asexuality can be a feature of AGPs.

>>8543819

>What exactly did you do to come out?

Asked my mom when I would get to become a mommy as well, when she explained that I was going to be a daddy instead I got extremely insistent that she was wrong and that I would be a mommy one day. Tried to cut my dick off which didnt work because the only knife I managed to find was the butter knife.

>What would you have done if you had had privacy?

I don't think I ever seriously gave it thought. I doubt I would have done anything out of paranoia.

>Which was?

Kept my voice as high pitched as possible while going through puberty, started wearing foundation in high school to cover my beard shadow (which I had to put on and take off in the stall at the school since going home with it would be suicide). Kept everything perfectly shaved

>Asexuality can be a feature of AGPs.

said in my first post i'm into guys now

>>8543889
First paragraph and the high school behavior sound very HSTS.

>said in my first post i'm into guys now
I misread.

You could be HSTS after all. The nature of your maybe attraction to women in the past is the think to look into.

>>8543909
HSTS and AGP are just memes jesus christ....

>>8543915
Don't be ridiculous.

>>8543909

That's what I've heard from other people but it's weird thinking of myself that way after years of knowing myself as AGP

>>8543927
> HTTP Strict Transport Security (HSTS)
>Implying I'm attracted to avoiding certificate downgrade attacks

>>8543725
>What age did you try to come out?
Well I'm 18 now and taking steps to coming out, seeing a therapist about it later this month
>What crossdressing have you done?
I've pretty much done everything... other than go out in public because I'm way too scared and not good enough at makeup
>How feminine were you as a child?
I mostly played with girls since those where my cousins and who I saw most but my best friends later in childhood where guys. I'd say I was androgonous/slightly feminine.

do i really have to take hrt with food? i can barely ever remember to eat, like atm i'm mainly eating so i can take hrt

latest hijinks involving my dad
>visit home, literally within a minute of entering the same room as him:
>"when are you going to grow a beard again"
>"have you had your dick chopped off yet?"
>"strip off so I can check"/"why not? you're my son, it's not weird"
>chanting "I want my son back" several times while staring at me, then just staring at me for like 30 seconds before saying "jesus christ, boy, you're so fucked up"
>this morning
>he catches me leaving my bedroom while my pyjamas are still in the wash instead to examine my body
>laughs and says "thank god; you'll never look like a woman"
>bitches at me for using a crutch going down the stairs saying I don't need it and doctors are all idiots and evil and also I should stop walking like a hooker
oh also apparently people from my high school have been spreading childish rumours about me, too, so that's fun

>>8545031
desu your dad is kind of hilarious in a certain way
Definitely an asshole and an idiot if he mistrusts doctors on the principle of their being doctors, but he acts like a cartoon antagonist

>>8545082
his argument is "I say what I see, nobody else can tell me what's what" and therefore no expert or specialist in any field of any subject can tell him the truth, he knows it already, and if what they say contradicts what he thinks is the truth then they must be lying, on purpose

>>8543582
cheeky
and yeah I tried rebooting

>>8545031
jfc your dad is a monster.

Some of those are just odd...

>>8543889
with blanchy dichotomy being questionable you shouldn't care much about the classification, you were a 'transkid' as it sounds like you never had male identity and had very early onset of dysphoria, it doesn't matter if you are/were into men or women

you are definitely not AGP

>>8545015
this is a reeaal question

>>8545125
You dont have to but its better, im not sure if this is right but I think it lessens the damage on your organs and increases absorption.

How to find a sugar daddy to pay for surgeries? Living in straya

>>8545123
>blanchy dichotomy being questionable
:^)

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/mtfg/ goes to the beach

Just orderd a herb-grinder...
To grind spices...

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>>8545327
hmm....

>>8545327
Not ideal for most spices. Too hard and oily. Mortar and pestle gives better results.

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>when u wake up and look in the mirror and don't see a guy for once

Post all the mtf movies that you know, here are the little i have seen from WORST to best
[spoiler]
>ace ventura: pet detective
>dr jykell and ms hyde
>dr jykell and syster hyde
>the skin i live in (la piel que habito)
[/spoiler]

>>8545364
little nicky
silence of the lambs

>>8545364
>silence of the lambs
i saw it, but i can't remeber why is mtf, can you help me?

>>8545376
>i saw it, but i can't remeber why is mtf, can you help me?
there's a character in it called buffalo bill who kills women and skins them so he can make a "woman suit", since he was turned down for gender reassignment surgery for being nuttier than a bowl of peanuts

>>8545378
I once met a really creepy hon who made me think of that character, he said that he was so jealous of how women look he wanted to steal their skin and wear it. Yes, I say he, because he was definitely cis, such a clear cut case of fetishistic transvestitism it wasn't even funny.

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A girl in a summer dress smiled at me in public and I almost started crying because I'll never be a real girl lole

>>8545394
so what you're saying is that he was like super AGP?

like murderously AGP?

>>8545378
Yeah isn't the whole point of Buffalo Bill that he's not trans, he's fucking crazy?

i dont wana be trans anymore

>>8545406
Nah, not agp in the way it's understood here, that's still trans. Besides, he was into guys. Just a plain old cis fetishist. Your typical turbo flamer. Not even murderous, I'm pretty certain he didn't mean that literally. Just really envious and creepy.

How i can deal with the fact of being AGP and trans at the same time?

reminder to do butt exercises.

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>>8545426

Finally have the courage to end my miserable existence

>>8545411
why not both.jpg

>>8545412
y-you wanted at some point?

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>>8545395
This one time I was playing warhams at a friends house in a summer dress. His wife came home with his two younger kids and his daughter (She was around 11-12) is immediately enthralled by my cute army and pink dice, and just immediately takes to me. She was so sweet, she hugged me and kissed me on the cheek, so I gave her six of my pink dice to help get her into gaming.

It was so sweet. Makes me want a daughter really bad.

this is definitely my bedroom now i've spilt top coat on the floorboards

>>8545526
No.

>>8545514
now that you have all this courage, how about you use it to go fulltime instead?or at least come out to somebody

>>8545553
I am fulltime and I'm not happy.
I left a message on the kitchen table for my bf.
He'll find my body

>>8545565
why dont i have a bf when you do

>>8545573
People are just jealous of u.

>>8545573
Idk but he deserves better then me

>>8545565
>>He'll find my body
wow mean

>>8545580
can i have him. i mean please stay alive but can i

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kek

>>8545593
Would be more realistic with /repgen/ as chickens... Just saying.

>>8545421
don't be agp ok <3

>>8545615
but it's something i haven't choosed, i can't avoid it, why is it bad? it's just that... i love being a woman a lot

>>8545619
repress. be a woman yeah, but repress the agp stuff. it'll all work out

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hey it me

I want to die

>>8545683
all we want to die, you are considerating yourself special just by that?
>>8545627
but why, WHY? i don't get it ;_;

>>8545702
There is LITERALLY nothing wrong with being AGP

>>8545711
*gatekeeps u*

AGP is literally just wanting to be called a little girl while someone grinds their dick on you, right?

>>8545702
being agp is fine babe yeesh, it happens, people are just different, lots of even really early transitioners are agp, i imagine getting dysphoria from the same stuff you have a paraphilia for would be confusing and cause strong shame-type feelings but it's all totally normal and healthy and real and you totally have a future and a place in the world etc. - it's all just natural

Sooo much penis my lips are numb

>>8545713
Beep no ;_;

>>8545725
>being a rapist is fine babe yeesh, it happens, it's all totally normal and healthy and real and you totally have a future and a place in the world etc. - it's all just natural

lel

>>8545752
if you're agp but not dysphoric ofc then it's a prob if you take that public, but nah not even all agps stay attracted to women

>>8545586
Idc anon
I lost it all

>>8545588
Go ahead

>>8545752
agp = rapist is the worst meme

>>8545766
send me his deets we can have like a goodbye threesome if you want, where at the end you give him to me to keep

Love you.

Does being able to deep throat make you a slut?

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oh hell ye i think i'm getting some of my bisexuality back, i just got turned on by this image

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i want to meet someone so amazing that i cant keep my mind off of them

>>8545817
If you're looking for amazing people, you may be in the wrong place, my friend.

>>8545790
You probably don't even live near me

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You're gonna make it

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>Go to LGBT group
>Get taxi home
>Taxi driver sees group and asks what it's about
>It's an LGBT group, I'm transgender
>"Oh cool, I don't know much about that"
>"I take hormones to look female and eventually have surgery to change my genitals
>"A-are the hormones having any effect?? Do I look feminine?"
>"Honestly, no I didn't notice anything"

>>8545828
wherever, i can afford the flights

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>>8545827
i know for sure i am
ive met almost everyone here
and only one or two have stood out from the crowd even

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>>8545830
We'll make it together!

>>8545836
I'm not going to let you.
You wouldn't want him anyways.

>>8545843
Damn, you are like the ultimate trip hunter.

>>8545817
>tfw havent felt this way about anyone since my best friend when I was a kid
maybe its men i cant fall in love with

>>8545848
if we have that threesome then i can learn how to love him FROM you

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wish i was a real girl

>>8545417
>into guys
>turbo flamer

HSTS

>>8545765
>if you're agp but not dysphoric ofc then it's a prob if you take that public,
but why?

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>>8545817
Its a really dreamy feeling honestly, and I really hope its not temporary. Never give up thinking you can do it, those kinds of people are rare but worth it.

>>8545878
it's always temporary.

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>Post a shitty selfie, 50+ likes
>Post an American flag on indepedence day, only 10 likes
Ungrateful, all of them.

>>8545905
You can't fuck an American flag, Moap.

>>8545835
>not being grateful he didnt lock the doors and drive you off somewhere to be killed

>>8545835
We're you in girl mode?

>>8545830
Its not nice to set people like me up for failure.

>>8545835
jfc tell me this conversation isnt real, also accept my friend request on discord desu.

>>8545857
Same.

>>8545612
Didn't you not transition for about 20 years?

>>8545835
Better than being hugboxed.

>>8545929
No but still I've been on hormones a fucking year, I didn't ask him if looked female, I asked if I looked feminine. I don't even look like a feminine male after a fucking year on hormones.
>>8545931
It's real
Ok

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>>8545847
We can only try

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>tfw hueg afro

How well do antidepressants work?
I could really use some and could probably get some after a visit or two to somebody.

This place is dead. That's a good thing.

>>8545988
i agree

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>>8545988
We're finally free

>>8545835
>>8545946
kek this is what real people think of you guys, time to wake up and leave the hugbox

this is a bad thread

>>8545980
Theyre okay id recomend them.

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my pee smells like coffee

>>8545881
delete this

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>>8545994
I have nowhere else to go

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my coffee smells like pee

>>8546006
fucking spiro, my pee changes smell every week

>>8545988
it's very slow, but i think even slower than normal for recent times given that someone made a new thread without linking it in the old one, and also this thread doesn't even look like an /mtfg/

>>8545980
Only if you'd rather feel empty instead of numb. I think I was a little foggier. I didn't take them for very long they did nothing for my anxiety issues. I have more issues but my lazy therapist went for easy.

>>8545932
About fifteen years. I was too broken by PTSD to resume transitioning in earnest. But I wasn't repressing either. Kept my hair long, still bought most of my clothes from the women's section, the few friends I had left still were all girls, I was pretty upfront about being trans when asked and so on... It's just that I was too fucked up to do anything more than putting what little energy I had into my job and just surviving.

>>8545988
Splitting the thread up might have contributed to that, I didn't know which to post in for a few hours.

>>8546010
do you want an invite to a discord server .-.

>>8546010
It's okay neither do I. Sheen is always welcome.

>>8546018
hmm
I'm not sure what the best option is. I have one or two up days and then I spend the next 4-5 wanting to kill myself, self-harming, and having no energy to do anything but lay in bed. Whatever can help that is what I need

>>8546023
Actually, all of 4chan feels slower lately, for some reason. Not just this thread.

>>8546017
I wouldn't be here otherwise. Trips mustbe busy out in the sun. I get to burn if I do. Almost albino.

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>>8546016
i'm on cypro

maybe it's the coffee i'm drinking

>>8546015
trip on coffee

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does it make me a bad intersex nb tranny that i agree with this woman lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovo7G5Wk1RY

cause i understand how your perspective on your gender evolves differently as an IS person but i also understand that like
that same thing doesn't often apply to regular ppl and that gender is not socially constructed and is instead inherent to your being

>>8546039
All the best.

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Why's everybody acting funny?
Why's everybody look so strange?
Why's everybody look so pretty?
What do I want with all these things?

>>8546048
How intersex are you?

>hooking up with a guy
>ask why he describes himself as heteroflexible, figuring he'll tell me he thinks some guys are cute
>he just says "this"
>"Oh. Yeah."

I wish I were a real girl :|

>>8545999
Youre a bad thread.

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How is your boyfriend (male) hunt going?

>>8546055
:(

I got memed hard, I fell for those timelines of Adam Lanza lookalikes who popped pills and turned into a cis girl after 6 months. It was all angles, lighting and filters.

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>>8546057
as hopeless as it's always been I guess

>>8545417
>not agp in the way it's understood here
Yeah not AGP at all. Learn what terms actually mean FFS.

>>8546027
sheen#7460

>>8546052
tbhon i'd be happy with that

>>8546070

He also mentioned a couple times how he's only been with "vagina people"

It just kinda sucks being reminded that I am an outlier

>>8546057
>actually making serious attempts to find someone
sounds to me like you have too much self-esteem

Why is every non-binary tranny young? I've never seen anyone over 30 claim to be non-binary

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>>8546089
younger people have a looser sense of self, they might not really understand who they are, opens up the possibility to think this has to do with obscure gender stuff i guess

>>8546089
i wonder what MAAB nonbinaries are like

>>8546099
I've met one before. They seemed a bit weird but idk, I didn't interact with them for that long so I'm probably a poor judge

>>8546099

I known an AMAB NB for a while. They are pretty cool.

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>>8546089
non binary isnt real, also they're usually AFAB

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>mtf
>male to freakazoid general

Sounds about right.

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>>8546108
w-well, this-this is me

>>8546089
>>8546099

>tfw 26 year old nb MAAB
i don't understand the need for new pronouns and all that other shit tho. like i get body dysphoria but how can you have social dysphoria over something that like
barely exists outside of yourself or exists as a system? how can he/she hurt you if you don't ascribe to one or the other lol

>>8546108
sister who is nonbinary

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>>8546099
couple of people i know both nonbinary, person on the left is AFAB and person on the right is AMAB

>>8546089
Later on they become more comfortable just calling themselves one gender or the other, plus NB is a new thing.

>>8546099
NB is "trans but that's too big a step to call by name"

For a MAAB most often they just might as well call themselves trans since they're a weird outsider anyway just saying NB. For a FAAB they can more freely experiment with labels to find the most comfortable one.

>>8546065
did you get a message

>>8546118
except you arent nb, you are very much so fem
you are pretty much like all cis women who claim to be nb

>>8546118
would you have started HRT if you knew you had no chance of ever passing as female?

>>8546105
>inb4 truscum

>>8546083
>It just kinda sucks being reminded that I am an outlier
Make that a positive thing? Be a better gf than a vagina person could be, be closer to him.

>>8546129

mostly cause of makeup idk. if i don't wear makeup i look rly andro irl and i barely wear makeup anymore outside of like work lol

>>8546133

i didn't start HRT to look female or to pass, i started HRT to primarily stop masculinization. so i suppose yes

>>8546144
>i look rly andro irl
you have posted no makeup pics before
trust me you look like a girl still

>>8546138

We're not really dating. But we did bond over morning wood. :/ I'm just in a terrible mood right now so I can't see the silver lining. Thanks though.

>>8546129
She calls herself NB because she's basically trans but saying she's a woman of any kind is too big a step for her. So she says something short of that.

>>8546089
Older people are more likely to call themselves queer or genderfuckers. The word nonbinary is very much a generational thing.

>>8546151

pics are diff from irl lol

>>8546156

i called myself NB for years before starting HRT and saying i was just a regular trans woman for another few years
which ultimately made me unhappy so i went back to referring to myself in the same way i did in 2009

>>8546155
>But we did bond over morning wood.
wew!

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Ugh I have such a headache

>>8546162
Genderfuck is an appearance thing, it's people who say they are men/women but will dress as a combination of both because fuck it why not. Non binary is a feelings thing, it's people who say they have no gender even though they always look and act like one gender (usually female)

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I have pangs of body dysphoria regarding my facial and body hair, but only as much as a slight sinking feeling/wish nothing was there and disassociation from it.
Any preferred features/appearance I have are androgynous; or as far as I can tell the closest I can be to feminine. Most of what I wear is lazy because I hate masculine clothing and don't feel that I "fit into" feminine things, as much as I wish I could.
I never really cared about my gender identity not because I feel any way strongly, but because I'm totally apathetic and biologically male so why challenge that.
I /want/ to be a girl.
But I've never experienced crippling dysphoria or been inhibited/severely wounded by it. The worst it's been is in the last month after I finally questioned and started researching transitioning, but that could be the anxiety of the question and seeing parts of it since it's fresh on my mind.
Am I trans?
(Pic related- how I've looked and felt this last month, except set in the dingy US east coast)

>>8546165
>pics are diff from irl lol
are you sure you arent just trying to justify your dysphoria by saying
>lol I'm nb

btw pics are more accurate because they show the world how we view it whereas mirrors show the opposite

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>>8545395

>>8546165
>which ultimately made me unhappy
Why?

>>8546187
>I /want/ to be a girl.
>Am I trans?
By definition yes. That doesn't mean transition is right for you. Consider the chances of being dysphoric, of passing, your social opportunities each way, etc.

>>8546197
she isnt happy being a camwhore and is trying to blame transition instead of her profession
I am betting she still hasnt done anything about becoming a botanist

>>8546175
Aw poor amy.

I want to feel like less of a loser
Can anyone help please

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>>8546175

>>8546195
headcanon
peppermint patty isnt a tomboy but a femboy with dysphoria

>>8546213
i'm a virgin at 25

>>8546194

most ppl on 4chan in general will agree that photos are more deceiving than irl and that you'll never be able to tell like
passability or much of anything else from a photo
and my dysphoria is diff from most trans girls so idk. it's not about justification for me lol

>>8546197

uh not this lol >>8546204
it just felt really constricting. like a box i never wanted to be in that i was jammed into that has one air hole.
the guy i was datin for a long time rly pushed the trans woman thing and so did everyone else i know irl
i like my job because i can literally just be myself and get paid for it, it has nothing to do with that.
i didn't make a grand coming out thing or tell ppl "pls refer to me as this or that", ppl just started doing it because that's how they saw me

I hope coworker-chan is taking her HRT.

>>8546221
that's not a headcanon it's the truth

>>8546225
>rly pushed the trans woman thing and so did everyone else i know irl
In what way?

>>8546228
are you memeing or did he really ask elanna for some

>>8546222
I'm a virgin at 20 but I'm happy with that

>>8546222
I'm sorry anon but I'm not gonna ridicule you and I don't take enjoyment or satisfaction from the suffering of others
I just want something to make me feel better about myself
Good luck.

>>8546237
yes she did ask and then chickened out afaik
not sure if she has them yet or not

>>8546237
He asked Elanna for some in a half-joking way. Everything is half-joking with Coworker-chan. Will probably end up half-jokingly transitioning.

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>>8546216
I just remembered my lucid dream form this morning and it told me this


A day too late ;-;

>>8546187
>>8546202
I never had much dysphoria, conscious at least until I started transition. It was always "I'd rather be a girl but it is what it is so I may as well plow on" but when I found out I could be a girl I just became utterly desperate to look like a woman as soon as possible.Honestly I don't see why no dysphoria should mean you shouldn't transition. You should be who you want to be.
>your social opportunities
This should never be a reason for not transitioning, you're living a lie to please people who probably don't give a shit about you and you only have one life.

I'm offing myself because I'm objectively ugly

>>8546252
>Honestly I don't see why no dysphoria should mean you shouldn't transition. You should be who you want to be.
This.

>This should never be a reason for not transitioning, you're living a lie to please people
I don't know what you look like but imagine being a hon.

That would be a lie to live too.

>>8546253
Protip: Never look in the mirror so your mental image gets you through the day

>>8546253
like a good 10% of people are
but we don't kill ourselves, we just live with it

>>8546232

everyone just held me to female standard involving my body and life and relationships and just...literally everything
there's this idea that you need to conform to standards of womanhood if you're a trans woman and i think the difference between me and most trannies is that like
i don't take pleasure in being held to those standards or in being seen in the same way that other women are.
it actually makes me just as uncomfortable as being held to male standards did lol

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>>8546057
Happily together with my bf for 2 years now

>>8546252
>when I found out I could be a girl I just became utterly desperate to look like a woman as soon as possible
Oh good, it isn't just me.

>>8546269
What if you're cute enough that you don't mind staring at yourself in the mirror for a lil' bit?

>>8546253
yeah sure anon
see you again tomorrow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VykzrUyeAho
lol cucked

>>8546269
I look better in the mirror than in my mind, actually. Took me some time to accept that. Now if I need some reassurance, looking into a mirror certainly helps.

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>>8546252
>"I'd rather be a girl but it is what it is so I may as well plow on"
This is sort of how I feel. All I see in that area of my life is milking what I can of my youth until it begins to fade, then just trying to be a cool/positive casual figure. The cheery guy who always wears hawaiian shirts and tie-dyes and funny hats, and eventually the old man who you see skateboarding downtown wearing a wizard costume and sunglasses.
>but when I found out I could be a girl I just became utterly desperate to look like a woman as soon as possible
...Are they signs that after I started reading into transitioning and got that anxiety I started looking at dieting, shaving my legs and chest, and working on voice immediately?

>>8546269
I avoid all mirrors but society reminds me that I'm a hideous creature

>>8546274
You say standards, I say stereotypes. And yeah, trans women shouldn't be pressured into conforming to that crap. It's especially evil when it's gatekeepers inflicting that pressure. Fuck them all.

>>8546274
That's interesting. What are the female and male standards?

>>8546299
dont fret about whether you're trutrans or whatever
just try to figure out if this is something you actually want and if it's actually viable for you

>>8546266
I think everyone, no matter how repressed stops giving a fuck eventually. That's why 40 year old hons are so prevalent. I myself am planning to girlmode with a completely unpassing voice; I just don't give a fuck anymore.
>>8546299
Transition.

>>8546310
Female standards are like 9-10/10 girls
Same goes for men

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Stranger passing by here. Didn't want to make my own thread. I don't think I'll ever fall for the degeneracy but I'm curious are there any GOOD looking black mtf pics you can show me? Preferably some wearing lolita fashion? Or does it not exist because I can only find ugly people wearing slut clothing.

For the record I'm 5'6.

>>8546318
You only see the ones who become hons, not the ones who keep presenting cis.

>>8546309

i agree with that entirely!! ppl shouldn't be held to gendered standards in general cause ppl don't have the same goals even if they're the same gender
but trans women specifically take pleasure in those standards because it validates their identity. and the same thing goes with surgical interventions for the most part.
you can have varying levels of dysphoria, but the type of dysphoria you have is gonna be basically the same. it's all about not being biologically female.

>>8546310

female standards involve getting married, having kids, having primary secondary sexual characteristics, sounding certain ways, acting certain ways.......etc
it shows itself in a lot of ways in society when it comes to careers and socialization and all dat.
the same kind of thing applies to men and what they're expected to do and how they're expected to do it.
there are variable differences between men and women and what they're expected to do, and i don't like being held to any of them lol
i enjoy just existing somewhere near the middle, but i'm just a lil more feminine in my interests.

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>>8546320
this girl is supposed to be trans
>tfw not 5'6"

>>8546337
Acting which ways?

And how did people push the gendered ways of acting onto you?

I read an article from Janet Mock about pretty privilege and it made me feel bad.
I'll never know that feel because I'm considered to be subjective in my looks but it feels like an objective ugliness because no one in society pays attention to me. When I'm out with friends, guys will talk to them but I'm left alone.

We are not suppose to be treated based on our looks but society sees it a different way. Society gravitates to the attractive people because they believe that attractive people are healthier, smarter, richer, etc...

It sucks.

more hijinks with the father, reformatted from FB posts throughout the day

he's back to bitching about my mum for giving a mutual friend of theirs a hug to say hello at some motorbike club they went to tonight, calling her a bitch and a whore and a cunt and a swine etc etc like he has done since I was a kid

straight after demanding I watch Toy Story with him for nostalgia's sake

which happened straight after he went on at me for 20 mins about how I've thrown my whole life away and will never be able to do anything of substance ever again, going on and on about how I look like a man with tits and will always look disgusting no matter how many "drugs" I take or what surgery I get, listing off all the trans people he's met and what he thinks of them and jumping up and down telling me that education is a curse and he wants to hunt down the university staff he believes have indoctrinated me into transitioning one by one, saying he thinks he cuddled me too much as a child and that's to blame for predisposing me to it, etc. etc.

even before I came out as trans it was just one thing after another, every single day like this for the first 18 years of my life until I left for uni

it was his 60th birthday today
he spent the entire time we were out at lunch together telling me that I'm uglier and fatter than he's ever seen me and I'm never going to achieve anything ever again because I'm too fucked up

keeps really pushing the fat thing for some reason and saying I'm bulging out of my clothes, which is always great to hear with my body issues

for some context on his parental expectations of me: over lunch he looked me in the eyes, dead serious, and said "when you were a young boy I genuinely thought you were going to invent a time machine when you were older. there's no way that's going to happen anymore, you've ruined it."

...and people wonder why I'm so fucked up

Hello

>>8546368
henlo anon whats up

>>8546320
There are 3 black trips here, ask them.

*drinks cough syrup*

>>8546343
Acting "feminine" ways.
Everywhere you turn, at every step of being raised, there are gender roles that- even if you're lucky enough not to have systematically FORCED upon you- are observed and internalized.
Schools and churches split up the girls and the boys. Sports exist entirely separately, and girls' sports are always second-class. Your same-sex parent teaches you special things about your role that were passed down to them. Television and all media plasters girls in pink and boys in blue, girls get left out of trucks and superheroes while boys get beat up for touching a doll. Languages break down words or concepts as inherently feminine or masculine.
You'd have to be obtusely ignorant to say that there are no societal "standards" for gender stereotypes, and that they aren't enforced on everyone to some degree.

>>8546358
>wanting to watch toy story with his child
>calling you fat like a bad father would say to his daughter
your dad seems to be bipolar and insane as fuck and yet a tiny bit accepting of you no matter what he says
he is probably a repressed tranny himself which is why he is so fucked up

the less he is in your life the better

It was a nice run you guys but I'm gonna try to OD on Benadryl tonight. I've tried convincing myself I'll pass but I'm just lying to myself. If all goes well, I won't have to lie any more.

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>>8546358
>he looked me in the eyes, dead serious, and said "when you were a young boy I genuinely thought you were going to invent a time machine when you were older.

>>8546331
They killed themselves
>>8546353
Has she had FFS? I'm hating on her
>>8546358
Your dad is cray
>>8546374
There are no black people on /mtfg/

>tfw my dad is supportive as shit but is away all the time

:c

>>8546358
your dad is right, he should have drowned you in the tub a long time ago

>>8546377
I don't think there aren't any, I just want to hear the kinds of things that stand out to other people.

Some of them are pretty obscure and hard to notice, so you never know when someone will have spotted something gendered that you never realized.

>>8546389
my dad no love me
i want bf who act like dad so i can feel love

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i am listening to a song about a bear, what song are you listening to and would you slowdance with a boy to it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6VMSYIXCCY

>>8546373
not much anonlyemus what's up with you

>>8546388
Idk
I had ffs and I'm still ugly.
Living is getting harder and harder by the day

>>8546395
>tfw daddy bf

>>8546401
angie no

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>>8546402
hand him over and nobody gets hurt

transbian genocide best day of my life

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>>8546393
Toiletries are fun. Look at shampoo: A single brand has a dozen fruit scented ones, and one labeled "MEN". Most of the mens' shampoos are shampoo and conditioner, because it's assumed they're too lazy to use both, or maybe it's more convenient. There's a thousand varieties of MAN RAZORS, and then the "Girly Razors" are coated in pink and weird bulges/curves in the designs and often lower quality and/or more expensive. Whenever something is marketed "straight" for women, the mens' equivalent is plastered in a gruff voiceover for the commercial about how this is MAN GEAR FOR MEN, SMELL LIKE A MAN. NO LONGER IS THIS LOTION UNUSABLE BY ANYONE WITH A Y CHROMOSOME, BECAUSE THIS IS FOR MANS. RUB IT IN YOUR BEARD AND 2 FOOT CHEST HAIR, MAN.

>>8546406
Not angie

>>8546411
anon who isn't angie no

>>8546413
Why not?

>>8546407
no only gets to cum in my butt

>>8546396
Reminds me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng23CH0V5qM
But right now I'm listening to Skream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxtoBy1h5jo
Do people still listen to Skream?
>>8546401
Angieeeee
Stop

>>8546410
Haha, that's one I've noticed but I tend to buy the really cheap products, which are usually the least gendered.

It's the different treatment by people directly to you as an individual that tends to be where more subtle observations come from. Like the schools, church and sports things, although of course lots of it is less overt. And the parenting, that's one where people often don't see the other sex's experience, unlike group things where it can be more obvious when boys and girls are treated differently.

>>8546418
daddies are supposed to teach you to share

so is nim dead or what?

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>>8546396
this came on while browsing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuAGgDg9fOw
>>8546424
last I heard she left mtfg and might detrans

>>8546419
I'm not angie

>>8546419
>166 views
How do you even find this stuff?

>>8546429
ANGIE
YOU NEED TO STOP RIGHT NOW ANGIE

fat trans girls who lose weight is my fetish
someone make sheen get thin so I can cum

>>8546423
but his cock and cummies are mine and mine alone

>>8546429
Is this your new meme Angie?
>>8546431
Idk I just collect.
>>8546433
I'm fat too.

>>8546438
get thin so I can cum

>>8546433
>>someone make sheen get thin so I can cum
Hope you weren't planning to nut anytime soon

>>8546433
I'm fat and wanna be thin but it's too hard so I won't

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>>8546437
you're the worst anon

>>8546433
I can help with that too anon

>>8546438
There are others like me who have gotten ffs. Angie isn't the only one who got it

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am I cute?

>>8546445
he has a fat twin chaser brother that tried to hit on me once. he wanted to succ me. you can have him.

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>>8546445
Hey that's my melancholy posting gondola! It's for bittersweet moments only, you bastard

>>8546452
take your man hands away so we can see your man chin you fucking nigger cunt

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>>8546455
i guess beggars cant be choosers
>>8546456
-_-

>>8546463
fair enough

>>8546431
Silly, obscure music is the best thing that YouTube has to offer.
https://youtu.be/kNnOUHPIbds

>>8546450
Who did you get it with?
>>8546452
I feel like this is Coffee.
>>8546469
Reminds me of Mulatu Asatke.

>>8546277
didnt you start dating him last year?

>>8546452
i didn't know justin bieber browsed /mtfg/

>>8546494
justine beiber has a fem face tho

>>8546498
Used to. Got masc now.

>>8546488
deschamps braly

>>8546488
>I feel like this is Coffee.
I am sceptical that Coffee has ever attended the University of Wisconsin

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>bf grabs me forcefully and rips pantyhose off and flips me over mushing my face in pillow and then eats my cake

>>8546520
what cake did you make? :3

>>8546379
he IS a repressed tranny, we've already had this revelation months and months ago

>>8546526
hah
hons are funny
it will be funny when your dads bell rings

daily reminder that lsd is one hell of a drug

>>8546526
I missed that, how did it come out?

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Damn this place has changed.

>>8546498
Not really. He hit puberty and got kinda hot.

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>>8546521

>>8546521
chocolate cake by the sound of it

>>8546358
>education is a curse
>cuddled me too much
>spent the entire time we were out at lunch together telling me I'm uglier and fatter than he's ever seen me
>when you were a young boy I genuinely thought you were going to invent a time machine when you were older

this is so psychotic it's hard to believe, but I feel like you're telling the truth
Nobody deserves that.

So even ffs couldn't save me. Went to a highly respected surgeon and he screwed my face up.

>>8546562
Riley?
>mfw Riley was from /mtfg/ all along

>>8546562
trip on angie

>>8546570
Angie went Z, I went to braly

>>8546562
could we see your face on unsee or something? i'm really intrigued

>>8546562
ANGIE
LISTEN TO ME
NO
DR Z MADE YOU PRETTY

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Post eyes

>>8546590
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR FAAAAAACE

>>8546590
is that a picture of a sex doll?

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>>8546590
Only because i already have a photo of my eye.

>>8546592
Loooooooooo...ooooooots of makeup

>>8546602
Aww thanks ;) im going for the sarina valentina look

>>8546603
Hi oddish

>>8546579
Stop thinking I'm that person please

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>>8546614
Yo

>>8546614
you need to fill in your brows

>>8546624
My brow pen is empty ;_;

>>8546628
I use a eyeliner pencil, they last way longer than a brow pen

>>8546502
American surgeons are conservative.
>>8546562
Or did you get straight up botched? That's rare with DB.
>>8546590
You look real weird in that pic, maybe wanna lay off the foundation.

>>8546590
This is legitimately terrifying. Is this your true form? You look like a cross between an albino black woman and something that eats its mate after copulating with them.

>>8546633
They are too gooey

>>8546590
AYY

>>8546590
ayy

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>>8546590

>>8546590

im laffin

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>>8546640
Lol haha
Always knew i could be a strong transwoman of color

>>8546643
not really you just have to use less of them and smear them with the end of the pencil

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The snail is my life

>>8546660
Eww, sounds gross

>>8546590
this is the last thing you see before you die

>>8546590
AYY

my nipples have been fully tweaked for like a full week now wow

>>8546666
>>8546669
my sides

>>8546666
Yeah, u are in bed and u see me through a cracked door and i whisper "prepare your angus"

>you're very similar to your aunt in many ways
>but she's a woman and you're a man so there's still some differenfes
:3

[] i want to die
[ ] i want to keep living like this

>>8546664
better than not having eyebrows

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>>8546663

>>8546677
But seriously why are you wearing so much makeup?

>>8546713
Cartoon gender swaps trigger me

>>8546702
Are they that over plucked?

>>8546721
no they are just invisible next to your foundation

>>8546675
the picture reminds me of that one screamer desu

>>8546725
oh yeah the one with the maze

>>8546731
jeff the killer is the name of the picture i was thinking of iirc

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>>8546718
Because i wanna be sarina

>>8546724
Ok I'll fix it

I want to ____ with ___!

>>8546739
oh yeahhh
>>8546740
And how do you wear all that cake in the California heat?

I desperately want to see Beep dressed up in a crossdressing Link cosplay. I think I would just retire to my room for the rest of my days with a metal bucket and repeatedly cum into it. Perhaps I'd hire a small Chinese boy to dump the contents of my bucket into the toilet every few days.

i wish i had some drugs rn
does smoking cigs do much in terms of calming you down if you've almost never smoked before?

>tfw found a female cosplay I could probably do
>the character is a fat fridgebod
finally a character for me

>>8546762
pretty sure nicotine initially has a more energetic effect
bad habit though