Mtf dating sucks gen

/tfw crush turned you down and you're dead inside/

>tfw ywn have a qt transbian gf and get to experience the purest form of love in the whole universe

>>8534182
>implying I even attempt to date
I'm hoping I can just find a roommate or something doing the same thing.

>>8534185
>/tfw crush turned you down and you're dead inside/

This is worst feel, mane
I'm sorry this happened to you, Samantha

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>>8534182
>tfw go out on date with guy
>great chemistry
>hold conversation all night
>at his place. Make out. It's great.
>meant to not make out that night and tell him your trans before second date
>But it just happened.
>tell him today. Insta dumped but we can still be friends. Really liked me just can't get past the pre-op thing
>know you shouldn't be this sad over someone you just met
>feel sad anyway
>feel like worthless shit.

>>8534192
I saw her the other day by accident when I went to go buy a donut. Boy did she look uncomfortable ;_; like I stopped talking to her/bothering her I'm not gonna do anything.

>>8534209
I hate when that happens. It's not like you're doing it on purpose but they always act like you're a stalker or something.

>>8534209

At least you were able to cut her out of your life
In my case it's my best friend and no matter how hard I try, I find myself unable to let go of her

>tfw too autistic to date

>>8534220
It was real hard cause even as weird as I got she kept talking to me. Sweet girl but I was way to infatuated and pushy for more
>>8534216
Was awkward I swear I heard someone say "she's looking for you" when I stepped in. Prob wouldn't have noticed her but the line was long

>>8534202
you're not worthless shit

>tfw everybody who asked me out is poly
ugh

>>8534192
This, especially if you have never actually dated the same sex before but deeply want to. I feel like a lesbian in a sea of straight women everywhere I go. The biggest issue I'm dealing with at the moment is how to just outright ask someone whether or not you know they are attracted to the same sex. It's been an actual hell for me since I came out almost 7 years ago.

>>8534307
It's really not that surprising that all the sluts have trans fetishes.

>tfw so lonely that I would date a qt passable mtf if given the chance

>>8534323
i'm understand someone being slutty and no commitment desu but i dont understand: "i like boys and girls so even though i like you, i still need to get fucked by a dick sometimes"

>>8534300
My brain knows that but sinking out in my chest doesn't T.T

>>8534220
How are you trying to let go of her? I'm trying to do the same..

>>8534342
Poly people tend to have higher sex drives and more fetishes than your average person.

/wouldacceptanyofyoujustthewayyouareandgetcalledachaser/

>>8534188
this is all i want

>>8534342
I knew this retarded girl who wanted to date me (she wanted it to be manogmous) but every other day she'd tell me if we dated she'd we'd have to bring a man into the realtionship for dick. What. The. Fuck.
>>8534307
This

>>8534364
you just need time, anon. don't be too hard on youself

>>8534372

She recently got a transbian gf and so any hope I had of ever being with her has pretty much died.

The feelings remain and I just cry every day, listen to sad music and try to cope with the feelings of heartbreak and loss. Tbh I'm absolutely shattered beyond repair. I keep living only because she asked me to.

>mtfs want a bf
>calls everyone who goes after them disgusting chasers

explain.

>>8534561
It's not hard to get an mtf gf. Just don't expect to do anything with their dick and don't say creepy shit.
Most chasers are legitimately disgusting, but not all of them treat transgirls like their fetish fulfillment sex toy.

>>8534561
this has been explained away so many times

>>8534565
>but not all of them treat transgirls like their fetish fulfillment sex toy
that's like the definition of being a chaser that they do do that though

>>8534182
I got a bottle for you to suck on

>>8534645
A lot of people use chaser to refer to all people who actively want to date mtf's regardless of whether or not it's due to a fetish.

>>8534811
well that's dumb and they should stop using it like that because it's not what it means

>>8534394
just leave my penis alone
I don't want my penis to be part of sex, I don't want things done to my penis, I don't want you to think I have a penis

like me for me

>Attract guys like a magnet online
>Can't get a single guy to be interested irl
>Will literally never pass well enough to go full time

this is my life I suppose.

>>8534394
Fuck off chaser

>>8534823
Have you considered a LDR?

>>8534342
because it feels good

>>8534332
>im so desperate id even date nasty trannies!!!
this is what we mean by chasers we hate

>>8534332
Chaser confirmed

>>8534837
I have but I don't want to be with someone LDR if they wouldn't be attracted to me irl. Just feels like I'm swindling them out of a better partner. Most people can do much better than me so...

>>8534185
>tfw don't have a crush because you know nobody

>>8534889
>tfw you build a relationship based mostly on personality and how well you two get along while not together physically

Let's say you date someone for 6+ months and you two enjoy everything about each other, do you think they would honestly care how you look?

Not everyone is shallow anon.

>>8534913
I'm very insecure about my girlmode appearance.

>>8534915
Work on it then. Grow out your hair, style it better, buy better clothes, work on your makeup. I believe in you anon. There's someone for everyone.

I'm not MtF but I hear a lot about your gals' corner of the community. Is the whole 'chaser' thing really all that rampant?

>>8534933
No, it's not. Most of that is just exaggerating and banter tbqh my man.

>>8534896
This is better desu. Enjoy it when you can, I really reaaaally wish I had never met her.

>>8534915
Same tbqh.
>>8534920
>style it better
>work on your makeup
What if people call me a faggot?

>>8534938
Ooooh, alright. I've just seen 'CHASER' splurted everywhere and wasn't sure. I'm kinda new to the whole LGBT community thing as is so, lead me to believe there was just a bunch of them.

>>8534821
Thats literally what i do

Silly chasers, feminine benises are not for playing.

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>>8535003
Ahahahahaha, this is hilarious.
He even looks like a serial killer tbqh.

>>8535000
I agree. They deserve to be locked up in a cage.

Unless its 11 inch milf cock.

>tfw boyfriend who is alt-right
>sometimes talks anti-lgbt and politically talks far-right stuff that
>he is an stupid thickhead who never says sorry or go back during an argument or switching his opinions
>love everything else about him
How to deal with this? Does it take a long time to mold him?

>>8535019
>goes into relationship trying to "mold" partner
recipe for disaster

>>8535027
I never went for relationship to mold a partner that is just stupid thing to say

>>8534958
Let them call you a faggot then and just move on from it.

>2017
>Caring about what people think about you

>>8534920
I'm working on it. But I'm not quite there yet.

tfw attracted to cute boys but even when you bag them eventually they leave because they found a cuter cisgirl. everybodys always looking for the next best thing....


if only i was born a cute cisgirl...

>>8535019
Every time he gets inflamed just immediately start sucking/riding his dick. He'll shut up pretty quickly.

>>8534202
> not telling men you are trans before going out with them.
it's like you people WANT to get murdered

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I used to feel pretty depressed about being single but after being raped by my first gf and just generally being treated like a piece of meat I'm over it. it helps that I experienced gnosis and have made a commitment to god to remain celibate for the rest of my life. it's quite easy as the hormones have pretty much nuked my sex drive after 5 years. I suggest a vow of chastity to anyone who's willing to undertake the challenge, but y'all are kids and wanna get your dick wet like all your buddies, I get it.

it'd be nice to cohabitate with someone who'd just be down to cuddle in bed at night and have eskimo kisses and lewd hand-holding, but everyone my age just wants making fuck berzerker. not into it, desu

>>8535210
I mean on a first date with no intent to hookup, what's the problem? I mean yeah the going to his place part might have been sketchy but they had roommates home so I didn't feel in immediate danger. The plan was to disclose I'd unlike them before things got physical.

>>8535227
Had the situation you described. Didn't like it. Want a more physical relationship.

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Let me date one of you I'm lonely

(Are pre-t trans guys desirable at all?)

>>8535266
yes

>>8535266
I know quite a few people women cis and trans who dig trans men more than cis men so there is a market for you out there.

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>>8535271
>>8535270
Good to know!

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>>8534237
>tfw same

>>8535266
Depends how tall you are.

>>8535334
5'4 (almost)

Kill me irl

>>8535359
Hey, at least your Tracer's height!

>>8535387
Good point

I need a girlfriend

>>8534202
if I had a dollar for everytime a boy said to me 'wow you're so incredible' then go 'oh...' after I tell them I am trans, I wouldn't need to sell my booty for cash.

Being trans sucks. sorry cookie

>>8535232
don't bother with this mra, he doesnt understand

>>8535957
so do i

>>8535968
>don't bother with this mra, he doesnt understand
>this mra
???

>tfw engaged with another mtf
>tfw live in 2 different countries
>tfw immigration is tough as hell and wearing us both down and our chances to be together permanently is very uncertain

So close and yet so far

>>8535968
>Don't bother
I'm sorry but no you seriously do have tell people you're trans before dating them, the dick can be a deal breaker for some people, and it's reasonable that it is.

>>8535991
What two countries?

>>8535996

I live in bumfuck mudslime third world and she lives in America. We want to be in America so we can both transition freely.

>>8535993
>>8535986

See what I mean? I decide when I disclose personal things, not you or anyone else.

>>8536014
Then don't complain when people reject you or dump you for not disclosing these personal things.

>>8536004
Which country? Are you on hrt there?

>>8536038
Oh, I will. And there's nothing you can do about it.

>>8536043

Malaysia. No, not on HRT, before we got engaged, I was planning to self med but decided to put it on hold while I deal with getting us together.

>>8534182
dating between radical constructivists and solipsists can be really disenchanting
tru story

MtF dating experience or how you are trasphobic if you are bother by my genitals and chaser if you don't

>>8536670
and yet I've still had successful relationships in the past

funny how that works eh?

>>8534289
Transbien

>be me
>meet dream guy
>we click, have great sexual chemistry, says he doesn't care that i'm trans and that he loves me
>a couple of months down the road, totally head over heels for this guy; want to marry him
>suddenly he realizes he wants kids in the future; doesn't want to do a surrogate and doesn't want to adopt. i understand
>says we can't be more than just friends
>a year later and we still act like bf/gf and do sex on the regular
>i've never been suicidal before until now and the thought of him with another woman makes me want to actually kill myself
>when he moves on i think i might actually do it and that scares me

i feel used...

>>8536760
Get over your jealousy and ask him if you can share him with a cis girl when he meets one.

>>8534565
What else would they want a tramny girl for? If they wanted a real girl then they'd get a real girl, trannies need to admit they will only ever be a fetish

>>8536760
that sounds like an extremely unhealthy relationship for you, tell him to get over it (the kids thing) or break off everything with him immediately

you know this bandaid must be pulled off, so fucking do it

>>8536670
No ones calling anyone #transphobic were just expressing our shared dissappointments.

>>8536760
>>8536807

this. please protect yourself, even the ideal partner for you for might not be worth it if you disagree like this.

>>8536786
haha implying i haven't already. he said no.

>>8536807
>>8536815
good advice. thank you.

>>8534185
My crush hurt me a d somehow made me laugh at the same time by saying:

>I'll be the friend that will stand shoulder to shoulder with ya, drink wth ya and chill with ya but I cant be the one who will get on top of ya even with the cosplays i like

Hes one of those black men that actually has himself together too.

Anyone wanna be my girlfriend unironically

>>8537327
sure. tell me about yourself

>>8537344
I don't feel comfortable doing that on 4chan ÷/

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>>8537351
Guess we are at a stalemate then.

>>8537360
Unless you have another way to contact you

>>8537364
Obviously... The stalemate is in that you won't say anything about yourself, and I won't add a random person

>>8537367
So if I tell you vaguely about myself I'm no longer a stranger?

>>8537351
well then make some shit up
you're not going to get a gf by immediately shutting down everyone who tries to talk to you.

>>8537375
No, you remain a stranger, but I might get a reason to add you. Or I might not. I am trying to talk to a potential date, either take it or don't. That's it. This isn't really a big deal.

>>8537379
I'm not trying to shut them down, I just don't want to describe myself in a public forum.

>>8537387
you need to learn about the art of conversation.
and stop being so defensive.
it isn't attractive.

>>8537396
Never mind, then

>>8537396
Don't judge them over the fact that they are shy or otherwise ill-inclined to post on 4chan like that. There are good reasons to make that choice.

>>8537407
But yeah, those are kind of the options. You have a lot of liberty in what you might decide to say about yourself, but I am too serious of a person to fall for just 'I need a gf'.

>>8537351
why would you even be uncomfortable? what's even hard about something as simple as listing your interests and shit?

>>8537453
there you go, now people have something to work with

>>8537453
underage detected
get out

>>8537387
There's no way anybody can identify you off of a 4chan description.

>>8537511
I have been identified based off of a 4chan description before. Its just a matter of whether or not someone close to you who uses 4chan and knows you do too goes on this particular thread of this particular board at this particular time and make the connection.

>>8537584
I have online friend who can tell my posts out even when I post anonymously

>>8537599
Haha same here. Im pretty sure he only comes to this board to try to identify my posts.

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>>8537327
Are you in the US? What kind of relationship are you specifically looking for?

>>8537621
Yes I'm in the US.
A ldr (I know) mostly. I wanna be someone's support and vice versa

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>>8537634
Emotional support?

Where in the US are you?

>>8537644
All the way in Louisiana
Not like an emotional tampon, but someone that'll love me

>>8537584
>I can be identified on 4chan
>if I already identified myself off of 4chan
That isn't being identified on 4chan, that's being identified because of prior actions in your dumbfuck normal life.

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>>8537658
I'm in Florida, you're not too far away.

How would you define love, anon?

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>>8534182
Fat male nerd here looking for friends. More I guess if we click. Until then add me and we can hang out or play video games or just talk or whatever!

Bonus points to people who want to talk with me about how heartbreaking Bethesda's E3 was this year. I fell for the "Leaks" and got my hopes up.

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198065749268

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FREE GIRLFRIEND AVAILABLE NOW

MtF, 21, HRT for 5 months. Insecure. Never been in love. Very afraid of trusting people. Ready to get over it.

I like philosophy, math, programming, and vidya, but I usually only play 1 game at a time for like 500 hours each.

My ideal date would be reading together or watching a documentary together. And then we go get coffee to discuss what we've read.

Cuddling is nice too.

I live in the united states.

>>8537703
are you a chaser senpai?

>>8537736
You ought to include your sexual orientation senpai

>>8537750
Straight. I've been attracted to girls before but I don't think I could ever actually be in a relationship with one.

>>8537686
Just have the others best interests in mind.
It's just a feeling like no other that's kinda hard to describe.

>>8537736
I'd apply but I live in Canada

>>8537776
I'm not against an LDR but I have a strict "no tripfags" rule.

>>8537795
I'm no trip fag but I'm a boy. What's your discord

>>8537736
how do you feel about guns?

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>>8537763
That sounds very lovely, anon. I'd like to continue talking to you if that's alright, is there a way I can contact you?

>>8537802
Just give me yours and I'll DM you tonight.
>>8537803
Freedom grows out of the barrel of a gun. Unfortunately I don't own any. But I have like 50 gigs of informational books and videos about firearms and general warfare. I have to be honest though I've only skimmed most of it. Read some of the parts about saftey and how to assemble an AK. That's pretty much it. I've never been shooting before. I'm afraid of having a gun in my house for obvious reasons.

>>8537806
metro#9006

>>8534182
>think you'll be happier as an ugly manface female with small unshapely tits
>think men (esp chads since thats what you all go for) will actually be attracted to you
>think that if they somehow arent repulsed by your barely passing ass, they will still wanna fugg after they know truth


Like, fuck you dumb cunts. 4chan ruined all of your lives telling you that "people" exist that want to fuck trannys.

>>8537859
most trannies want to be with women, not men, but yeah, your point still stands that nobody wants to fuck them

>>8537904
That is not true most trannies are bisexual and want to be with anyone who loves them.

>>8537904
This is something I never got. Why change genders just to go after girls still?

im mtf btw.

>>8538043
'woah, you mean to tell me gender identity and sexual preferences are different things? Why I never'

dumbass btw

>>8538245
Gender identity :DD It just means that you have a mental illness you can´t change the fact you have xy you little degenerated slut

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Not only will I date a trans girl, I will take her out in public and buy her shit too.

AGP? Anime on your hard drive? Autism? Mental illnesses? Shit taste in everything?

If you are hot and from the US, it doesnt even matter Tbh LUL xD
Kik: The_Carthaginian
Discord: The Carthaginian#4454

>gonna die alone
>ugly twinkhon
>bi but prefer girls
>every boy has just been into me for the taboo, cum and go
>girls use me for money
>I hate not being good enough

>>8534182

>no other mtf to be irl friends with

Lgbt people everywhere but trans are so hard to find. I've actually met a few ftm and a few crossdressers who turned out to be gay men with a fetish before but barely any trans. The only few I've met have been through psych meetings where we'd meet with other transpeople. At the time I was still introverted af and the setting wasn't for networking, it was for therapy, so I wasn't able to work up courage to ask them if they wanted to be friends. Where do I go for this? The only place I can think of is this night club aroun me but 90% of the people there are actually just gay crossdressers with a fetish and I don't want to hook up either.

I just want friends aaaaah

>>8537795
Well darn

>>8538374
nice try hanibal barca

>>8538374
I added you and you barely respond to me. Its hard for me to be comfortable with you.

You don't even have to be pretty I just want a transgender girlfriend

>>8538621

They get mad when you ask them this. Ur a chaser now boi

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>why can't I get a le bf who appreciates muh feminine benis
>eww fug off chasers I only want guys who are disgusted by me

It's cool how incredibly self destructive their instinctive nature is.

>>8538805

Sometimes I wonder if they don't like chasers because most of them are beta and "chase" them, whereas the guy who will fuck them then leave in disgust isn't and probably finds them by coincidence.

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>>8538828
So even desperate transgirls want only Chad

>>8538837
They try to imitate the worst and most stereotypical traits of women.

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>>8534182
I used to think all people deserved happiness and all people were beautiful even if it was only on the inside. Then I got older, went to war and got even older. Now I am like fuck society and there are only two genders

I thought I liked girls my whole life, now I like guys. I can't even bring myself to date. I feel ashamed and I don't know why because I'm straight now, which most people would never be ashamed of. But I don't feel straight. I feel like a faggot failed male. I'm a 24 yo virgin and I could easily have gotten laid by now but I can't reconcile having sex with men.
has anyone experienced this before? Did you get over it or should I prepare to die alone?

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>>8538858
fixt hair

>>8538877
im experiencing that now but im younger than you. I think about suicide all the time and have trouble sleeping.

>>8538877
its because you want to get pregnant now i guess. i experienced something like that too but in reverse.

>>8538828
desu, my bf is an anime nerd with an unhealthy fascination for Touhou and a mild anthro fetish that borders on furryism. He's quiet and apologizes for breathing, I swear. What you're proposing, it's not true.

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>>8538928
It sure as hell seems that way
Trannies:
>tfw lonely ;_;

"Chaser":
>hey I'll be your friend

CHASER FHASERRRR CHASER

>>8538858

>tfw the second pic is hotter than the 1st pic

>>8537737
Is that guys who date trans girls just for cock? If so nah. Like I said I'm mainly looking for friends to play games w/ but I'm single so it could happen I guess.

>>8538945
It's actually more like:

Trannies:
>tfw lonly ;_;

Chaser:
>lemme succ dat girlstickclit bb

>>8539435
But I'm not like that and I'm still called a chaser

>>8538570
You kind if have to drag conversation out of him. He's just kinda like that.

>>8538570
>>8541298
>that fucking carthaginian faggot has multiple hot bitches lining up to digitally get their worlds rocked by his e-peen
Is it because he has a 4chan pass?

>>8538877
Just try dating men anon. If you're just discovering this part if yourself it might be uncomfortable st first but you deserve to be happy. Also having a guy to hold you and kiss you is such a wonderful feeling.

>>8541328
I think it's because be exudes alpha-ness.

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>>8541336
>alpha
Isn't that a little, 2012 of you?

>>8541341
2012 lingo is always in style.

>>8541763
Everytime I talk you I feel like you don't have much to say to me. It could just be me though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I personally wouldn't mind if you talked more. I enjoy conversation.

>>8541763
Does it make you happy that you have an army of tgirls on 4chan lining up to call you daddy ;p

>>8541834
Honestly if you have a shred of self confidence (dare I say, 'alphaness') and are genuinely and actively attracted to transwomen, and aren't completely ignorant, you too can have an army of trans girls calling you daddy. its not actually hard.

>>8541922
I'm sure that's good new for someone. I don't really want an army of tgirls though. I'd much rather find someone to call daddy.

>>8541927
same

>>8541834
>Does it make you happy that you have an army of tgirls on 4chan lining up to call you daddy ;p
The ones that lay on their backs and take daddy's dick, and wear skimpy clothes for me out in public are the ones that really make me happy. Anybody can talk the talk, only the strong can walk the walk faM.

>>8541942
>same
LOL I remember you. You added me on Discord and I tried to get to know you and you were like "I-i-i-i just wanted to say hi daddy..... BYE !" You left some spaghetti behind babe, I am waiting for you to come back and get it :^)

>>8542473
>>8541942
That's adorable omg

>>8535232
It is like wearing a voice change and a mask the entire date. I think you of all people should be able to understand the significance of sex and identity. You were dishonest and selfish to assume that it would be "just fine." Tell people that shit up front. It is not a matter of "you will not fuck, so it is fine." It is the same as if you refused to tell him your name. Just be honest. Not fucking hard. If you cannot do that, well, sorry, but no one SHOULD date you.

>>8542473
>and wear skimpy clothes for me out in public
What clothes?

>>8542526
But want if I want them to know me first so that they don't have a list of stereotypes defining me before we've even met?

>>8542473
Maybe one day if I'm good enough I'll be able to slut it up for you.

>>8542539
>Preferring to be considered a selfish liar than a stereotype

Not sure about you, but I would just be honest and then prove the stereotype wrong. At least the person knows I am honest and not leading them on, which is one of the worst things you can do in a relationship.

>>8542555
Ok at what point and I required to tell them and not be a selfish liar? The instant they message me? Should I just have a scarlet T sewn intobsll my clothes? Heaven forbid a man talk to me and not know I'm trans.

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>8542571
It is almost like people think it is all about what is the contents of one's pants and not their shitty personality. Who would have thought?

>>8542566
Now, you are just taking it personally. Just bring it up in conversation. It is not that hard.

>Talking from experience

If you just met and are immediately dating, you are probably moving too fast anyway. Get to be friends. Get to know each other.

>>8542602
Idk. The majority ofnthe times I got dropped for being trans they liked me up until they knew I was trans. They obviously liked my personality before

>>8542571
but he's right. not everyone is a chaser and if your personality sucks, they don't want you.

>>8537859
>repulsed chads
more pls
>people that want to fuck trannys
ya no mas por favor

>>8542473
<.< no u must be thinkin of someone else

>>8542519
ur mistaken

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http://www.iwonderifyouareoutthere.com/man.html

Reminder that as a mtf, you have to get a bi man who doesnt want children, so you have a fraction of a fraction of the men out there available.

>>8542956
Not necessarily. Its worth noting that "shemale" and "tranny" porn are extremely popular among "straight" men, so while its obviously not 1:1, I think it can be assumed that if you pass you have a wider pool then just those that are self-identified bisexual.

Not to mention the no-kids thing is squishy. It certainly is an obstacle but its not catastrophic, especially considering surrogates, adoption, etc.

>>8542956
This site is kinda flawed desu. % of total population != % of people looking to date, or even % of people in your age group. A comparison to your dating pool rather than the whole country would be much more useful, it's hard to meaningfully interpret this number

>>8543007
> implying watching trap porn means you want to date a trap
Reminder, trannies are for fucking and throwing away

>>8543007
Yeah. If no so willing to raise a kid with a guy that was from a surrogate. What makes it specially isn't just that they are related to you but that the two of you love each other enough to raise a kid together at all :3

I used to not want this but these days I think about wanting to get married and raise a kid with someone a lot more often.

>>8543063
I said it wasnt 1:1, there are plenty of people that would just want to ejaculate and evacuate. but its definitely a nonzero amount.

We know its rough out there, don't have to pile on

>>8543063
You people think everything is for fucking and throwing away these days, be they man woman or child. It's a society of miserable polyfag cretins who have about as much respect for themselves as they do for their own stool.

The summer is giving me these nostalgic feelings of people I've been close too and loved in the past and it makes me want to fucking die. It feels like depression and I can't stop it. What the hell do I do.

>>8543135
Form new relationships with better people

>>8543216
I'm worried it will just go the same but I guess I could try

>>8543135
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palimony

>>8543538
To be fair I still have all my things (should be at her place still) just I have no place to put them. She did say shed pay for the security deposit wherever but she doesn't have the money so I can't be mad at her. Its not even her I'm upset about she fell out of love with me months and months ago. its the one I never had and the one I that I broke up with from all my friends advice that hurt

>>8534182
I just wanna find a guy that doesn't see me as a fetish, but also isn't a white knight faggot. Things like
>Ooooo, I love that clit

I know I have a penis, we don't have to "pretend" it isn't one.
>I'll treat you nice, because i'm a gentlemen

I read this the other night, I wanted to cut my eyes out after reading that.
I'm pretty fem and passable, though still working on my voice. Honestly, both guys and girls suck. I'm perfectly content just feeling and looking beautiful without the need for attention. Also, masturbating works just as well.

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>>8534182
>be MtF
>no pals
>go to motorcycle meetup to try to make some
>only girl there
>a few guys seem interested in me
>trying to just be friends, but each of them eventually end up asking me out
>tell each one I'm trans
>one is interested, but gets really creepy and pervy after I tell him
>don't talk to him anymore since he's probably a chaser
>other immediately takes back his confession
>doesn't talk to me anymore
>can't go back to motorcycle group cos both are regulars
>I didn't ask for this

>>8543856
Not Op, but, did you have a particular reason for choosing a motorcycle meet up as a venue for friend searching?

>>8543856
>>8543922
I am op and I really wanna know.

>>8543856
MtF anon here. I'll be your friend senpai.

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>>8543922
Well, that, game dev and anime are my big interests, but I haven't been able to find any active game dev groups around here, and I felt pretty uncomfy with the idea of going to an anime club

>>8543856
you can go back.
you should go back.
don't let them ruin your fun.

>>8543970
Ah, so you kind of narrowed it down. Well, besides the creepy guy, did you have fun? If so, you shouldn't let one guy ruin it for you.

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>>8543966
Okie doke! Contact?
>>8543985
Yeah, maybe. It's a really awkward situation being around either of them, and the one that rejected it is real chummy with everyone there, so who knows who else he might have told by now. I'd rather my groups of friends don't know I'm trans; as far as I'm concerned the only person who should know that is the one I'm dating.

>>8543998
Yep, I've heard many a tale of anime club; I unno if I have the heart for it.
The baiku group was pretty fun though, riding in groups is a separate deal from riding alone, and we went to some places I hadn't known about, and I was able to keep up with the old retired racer guy on his vintage BMW. Still, though, I'm awkward enough around people as is, I don't know if I'm good for that kind of weird situation.
There's other groups, but they're more intermediate and sporty. I'm a bit worried everyone with their Gixxers and CBRs will get a chuckle out of the girl on the hacked up VFR that's old enough to drink now.

>>8544028
Well, maybe after a bit of socializing you'll open up more and a lot of things won't bother you near ad much. I personally never got too much into anime so I'm clueless as to how they act at those things. You've a Honda? I used to tinker around with vintage Indians and rode for a little while but got more into guns, couldn't really afford both hobbies so I dropped bikes.

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>>8544091
Hmm, maybe... I unno, I'm new to all this "socializing as a girl" stuff. It's far superior to being a boy, but far more nuanced too, as it would seem.
Yep; never thought I'd get a sportbike, but I fell in love on the test run. Ooohh, there's an Indian shop across the street from work; I definitely like their styling a lot more than Harley's. I wanna get into guns one of these days; they seem pretty fun, and I live near plenty of deserts and the like.

>>8544028
>>8544107
Sorry for the late reply senpai ^_^ kik me :D
my username is starwind89

>>8544107
I'm sure that's an experience in itself, but I'm sure it's a lot like most things, takes time and practice.
I've seen a few sportbikes that I might've given a chance but couy never push myself to straddle one. The Indian (Scout) was just...I guess MY bike, fit like a glove. I think, too, you'd like guns once you get into them. The maintenance keeps you occupied and sport shooting is plenty fun. I personally use mine more for Big Game hunting.
You're fine, I don't happen to have a Kik but I do have Skype if you're at all interested in shooting the breeze.

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>>8537736
You accepting fatties? I'd love to read Elliot Rodger's manifesto and discuss it with you if you're into psychology or that sorta thing.

my steam id is
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198065749268

thanks for the pic sam

>>8544467
samefag

Also DEEP conversation like Aliums and Religion is what I crave.

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>>8544402
Yeah, I guess so.
I guess they're not for everyone, but I really thought I was a strictly cafe racer sorta person before I rode the VFR for the first time. The Scout is a neat bike, I like how well the radiator integrates with the frame, and the style for sure.
Yeah, I just don't really know where to start. I wouldn't mind finding someone knowledgeable about them to show me the ropes.
I'm up for skype! What's yours?

>>8544515
Right? Just so damned stylish and well made, really a reflection of American Engineering when it was very much something to be proud of. But, everyone has a style that suits them, I've no doubt your choice in bike was a great one for you.
Well, you'll wanna start off with .22 caliber hanguns n' rifles to get started and ease yourself into larger calibers as you go. I wouldn't mind at all sharing a bit of what I know. My Skype is: shatsbasson

>ywn find someone who doesn't want to stick things up your butt

>>8544602
you mean it as in platonic relationship or friendship

>>8544467
No problemo

tfw accepted I'd probably never pass so I'm doing boymode forlyfe and found a bisexual guy who's okay with me doing hrt. Also doesn't hurt that I almost zero genital dysphoria and don't mind if someone touches my dick

Tfw I accepted I'd probably never pass and that I'd have to live in boymode for lyfe. Found a cute bi guy who's okay with me doing hrt. Doesn't hurt that I don't mind if my penis is touched

>>8545294
I am sorry you can't pass, but otherwise your life seems perfect. I am jealous :c

>>8534202
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2KsZHRrFpU

>>8545316
Basically this but I don't even get sex first.

>>8534202
Why go out with straight men if this is a problem? Just go out with gay guys that like effeminate men.

>>8545403
Because I'm not attracted to gay men. I also don't have a d after are which they probably want.

>>8545409
But if a guy is a attracted to you, what does it matter if he is traditionally gay? He's just a guy that's into you and he even likes that you have a dick. Win win

>>8545403
>like effeminate men
except that doesnt really work when you look like a girl

>>8545420
Because I don't want to be liked for parts I despise about myself and want to get rid of. I would also always felt like he just considered me a really effeminate man and I wouldn't be able to do that in a relationship. I tend to avoid bi guys for a similar reason.

>>8545427
Just a dude body with long hair and make up, at least in most cases. Are you like, the world's most passing mtf?

>>8545428
>I don't want to be liked for parts
Sorry to bum you out but that's what all sexuality is. The only difference between a gay man and a straight man is which parts they prefer.

You have the parts a gay man prefers. Why fight it?

>>8545434
So what date gay men for a year until I no longer have a dick? No thanks. I'll just ease through all the straight dudes who won't date me until I find one who will and then I can be with someone I'm actually attracted to.

>>8545438
Why not just not date dudes for a year? For a thread that is about how hard dating is, this certainly seems self inflicted. You have easy solutions, it just sounds like you refuse to do them

>>8545443
Dating sucks and existence is pain but I do it because life is short and I refuse to throw away a year without trying. Yeah it can hurt and I could choose to Not risk being hurt but then I also loose a chance at finding a connection with someone that could be worth all the shit leading up to it.

>>8545451
So a year is a long time, too valuable to not spend dating, but is also too short of a time to date a gay man because you'll be imminently losing your dick.

So.... Why the inconsistency? Just sort of seems like pouting to be honest.

If it's a "short time" just wait until straight men find you more palatable. If it's a "long time" find a gay man that will like you for the duration. You can't have it both ways.

>>8545469

Gay men aren't attracted to me. I'm not attracted to gay men. I don't really need any more reasons to not want to date gay men.

1 year was just a hypothetical number I'm probably waiting at least 2 to 4 years. But regardless of how long I was waiting 've it short or long I wouldn't want to date a gay man.

>>8545482
Why aren't you attracted to an otherwise attractive man just because he happens to enjoy other men?

>>8545486
In theory maybe it's possible. In practice I have never known a gay man I was attracted and would want to form a relationship with and find it unlikely that one exists.

So even assuming that was a thing, if they were attracted to me as an effeminate man I wouldn't want that relationship regardless of whether or not I was attracted to them physically.

>>8534182
>date mtf gf long distance for over a year
>move close to her to make everything physical and real like we've always dreamed of
>she decides to ghost me the moment I leave my home
>be alone in a foreign place with no one to love or to help me through these hardships
>cry about her every night while trying to be a functioning human, because I have no other choice
Just fucking kill me. I'm begging for it at this point.

>>8545561
Jesus that's rough. I'm sorry.

>>8545502
"I don't like them cuz I don't"

Sounds like exactly what I was talking about. Your woes are the same as a liberal arts student complaining that getting a software engineering internship is hard.

Either wait a while, learn to engineer software and become a better candidate and then apply, or start applying to liberal arts internships.

It's not that hard.

Though I do respect that in America you totally have the right to just sit their, sabotage yourself, and whine about it. Just understand that no one will have sympathy.

>>8545571
It's rough, but most of me is saying that she is going through stuff too. Idk if that's true or not, but I have to believe it, because there's nothing else I can do. I've never really been in love before her, so I have to wait like a pearl without her rose quartz. Idc how cringy that sounds. It describes my feelings very accurately.

>>8545767
>a pearl without her rose quartz
What does that even mean, anon? Those two things are not even related.

>>8545810
Steven Universe

>>8545810
It speaks volumes if you've watched Steven Jewniverse

>>8545810
>hasn't heard of the clitoris and vulva

you're too young to use this site if obvious metaphors elude you

>>8545821
The fuck is that

>>8545831
Did your handler lose track of you again? You know they get in trouble when you sneak away, right?

>>8545820
Didn't see this one at first. Just googled it. It's like some new age Looney Toons shit?

>>8545861
Its a stupid show on CN that some people like. meh we all have our pleasures.

>>8534182
its actually really easy idk what you guys are talking about
i get annoyed at all the men i've been with who want to settle down with me

>>8545888
We having very different life experiences and I'm kind of jelly.

>>8545502
Have you never heard of masc bisexual guys? They're more likely to be strictly tops, they often don't really care what's down there so long as you look good and your personality isn't garbage, and would most likely be the ones to treat you like a woman since they've likely dated cis women before. All you have to do is say "Hey, dude, don't touch my dick it bothers me." And you're set.