Transgender Kids= Child Abuse?

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>>8528173

>>8528173
>It sounds like Munchausen by proxy to me.
Thats because the possibility for it certainly exists. It's easier to pull off one of this things with a mental illness than a physical one for obvious reason. The trick is where you take that information.

Immediately saying that any kid transitioning is being abused is just silly. I would've loved to have transitioned early, who wouldn't? It's good treatment for this condition. There are kids out there who are in a lot of distress who this can help and while due caution is important we can't let the behavior of irresponsibile parents halt medical treatment for all.

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>>8528173
I'm sure there are cases of this yet many people who transition later recall signs from early childhood.

I was 3 and putting on dresses and only wearing the pink pampers because they had princesses on them.

I wish I had gotten help before puberty, I would be so fucking pretty

Also they don't give kids hormones they just give hormone blockers

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before again

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>>8528199
after

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>>8528202
also after

>>8528193
>I was 3 and putting on dresses
I did that too because I had a costume box and I was playing with my friends. It didn't mean I was trans and didn't mean I needed medical intervention.

My parents let me play.

>>8528193
> "I like pink therefore I'm a woman"
Can't believe people unironically say such stuff.

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>Tfw used to be skeptical of transgender kids but then in the psych interview they asked me when I wanted to be a girl and I figured it out by age 7

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>>8528193
>Also they don't give kids hormones they just give hormone blockers
But that can cause harm. You act like sexual development during puberty isn't a big deal. Who the fuck needs a small, boyish body with a small penis when you're an adult if this "trans-thing" wasn't real?

Kids can't consent, they can be manipulated and Muchausens is a real thing. Just because the trans bullshit is "trendy" right now, doesn't mean people should ignore child abuse.
Now crazy ass Muchausen's mothers can hide behind political correctness while they fuck up their kids for attention. You need lots of attention and medical interventions to be trans as a kid. Imagine all of the school meetings with administration, school psychologists, advocates and counselors. It's a Muchausen's dream come true.

>>8528208
>>8528212
Literally 2 examples of many that only hinted at being trans

You missed the point. I should have seen a therapist and perhaps been put on hormone blockers until I knew whether or not I was trans

>>8528186
>I would've loved to have transitioned early, who wouldn't? It's good treatment for this condition
However, this is a great pathway for an abusive parent suffering from Munchausen Syndrome. People like you would unknowingly support it and others would be afraid of being "transphobic".

>>8528173
isn't john jolie-pitt 11/12? that's a completely different situation to what you're implying with >>8528175
jolie and pitt in fact went through what's the official and somewhat conservative recommended pathway, which is that you not consider extremely gnc children to be trans until they hit puberty due to the possibility of desistence at the beginning of puberty (for several reasons, i don't think desistence is a meaningful concern, but people are very careful to prevent errors in the process)
also, transsexualism is not a condition where the why-me parents are all too supportive -- i was an early transitioner with why-me parents, and it delayed my transition until early-mid adolescence

>>8528228
Tbh if someone had Munchausen they'd pick something like poisoning a kid to death. Not putting their kid on blockers.

You're really just repeating the signs of Munchausen and drawing loose connections when the cases surrounding the condition show some pretty exaggerated stories (as is the entire point of the condition). Transitioning isn't that dramatic at so young an age because they aren't going through the bulk of transitioning. It's just blockers and the waiting game with next to no theatrics.

>>8528224
It's a valid concern, and it's why doctors talk to the children a lot and make sure everything is consistent. Doctors are always checking. If a male child doesnt want to be in girls clothes and parent forces them thats just as abusive as if a male child doesnt want to be in boys clothes

>>8528173
The parents who would, to fulfill their own selfish emotional needs, pressure their kids into being "trans", have the exact same psychological qualities as the parents who, to fulfill their own selfish emotional needs, would reject their child for being an early-transitioner.
The root problem is emotionally-diseased parents who are unfit to raise children, which includes most parents.

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>>8528218
There's you, then there's the abusive psycho mom with emotional issues that says:
>"Okay, remember, you are going to become by princess, my angel! You tell the doctor that you are a girl and you are scared of becoming a boy. He'll give you medicine that will make mommy love you more! If you can't get the special medicine, mommy will hurt herself and you'll never see her again. Okay my princess?"

>>8528208
I kinda wish my parents were ridiculous libs and had transitioned me at a young age for playing with barbies and dress-up though. Would've had a better life than I do now.

>>8528231
>isn't john jolie-pitt 11/12? that's a completely different situation to what you're implying with
It's Shiloh and they've been dressing Shiloh and treating her like a male her whole life because she looks like "daddy" and probably some Jew agent is advising them to do so.

>>8528235
It's the same as ADHD overdiagnosing. The doctor knows that if they won't say "Yeah, the kid is pretty much trans" they'd sued by the kid's parents.

>>8528259
You're reaching

>>8528239
Also should have added that using the term "child abuse" is dishonest, since it's purely an emotional hand-grenade term. If your argument can't stand on its own merits without resorting to screeching, you have no argument.
The real problem has nothing to do with transgenderism or it being "trendy", but with emotionally-unfit parents.

>>8528228
MSBP is no doubt child abuse, yet cutting off the most viable method of treatment for those with gender dysphoria is not the solution.

Most parents are shitty, 3-4 years on hormone blockers isn't that bad

>>8528233
Gender identity disorder in children is more heavily linked with adult homosexuality than adult transsexualism. According to limited studies, the majority of children diagnosed with GID cease to desire to be the other sex by puberty, with most growing up to identify as gay or lesbian with or without therapeutic intervention. They'll stay dysphoric if you put them on blockers thus they'll be more likely to transition at a later age.

>>8528250
bery nice hyperbole. really obsfucates the concern trolling.

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>>8528233
>Tbh if someone had Munchausen they'd pick something like poisoning a kid to death.
You're not understanding what Munchausen is. It's more about the attention and sympathy. They don't have to poison the kid.

There was that story of that crazy mom that shaved her kids head and eyebrows, and kept her in a wheelchair she didn't need so that everyone though she was sick.

she was perfectly healthy. pic related.

>>8528274
Having a trans kid doesn't attract attention and sympathy. It attracts dailymail articles calling you a shit parent and people saying your kid should die.

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>>8528235
>It's a valid concern, and it's why doctors talk to the children a lot and make sure everything is consistent. Doctors are always checking.
Munchausens gets through the cracks and the mothers can be very aggressive. It's also hard to prove and they can now claim "discrimination" because of people's sentiments.

I just think given the current politically correct environment we have these days, we're going to see a lot of adults "de-transitioning" in the future and talking about the abuse.

Pic possibly related.
>regret

>>8528263
no he isn't. this becomes a discrimination issue and is more sensitive. I wouldn't be surprised if a doctor said "fuck it" and just gives the mother what they want.

That's how Munchausens is a thing in the first place. It's very difficult to prove and can put people's careers at risk if they challenge it.

>>8528284
Didn't Jazz just have shit genetics cos lots of early transitioners can later go on to get SRS?

>>8528266
>MSBP is no doubt child abuse, yet cutting off the most viable method of treatment for those with gender dysphoria is not the solution.
It's not the most viable and 3-4 years of hormone blockers can cause irreversible change. Maybe everyone on them doesn't want to be a boyish manlet with a tiny penis.

>>8528284
You really underestimate just how early kids would rebel against this kind of abuse--you're talking about systematic, extreme levels of abuse, or you'll find yourself in a David Reimer situation with the kid rebelling to be their true gender.

Do you seriously think the kind of systematic abuse required to suppress something as strongly felt as gender identity can regularly slip past pediatric psychiatrists? You're a pretty dumb troll

>>8528239
>The parents who would, to fulfill their own selfish emotional needs, pressure their kids into being "trans", have the exact same psychological qualities as the parents who, to fulfill their own selfish emotional needs, would reject their child for being an early-transitioner.
One causes harm while the other doesn't. Denying hormone blockers is not the same as giving them to a child who doesn't want or need them.

>>8528250
Hot

>>8528302
Does Jazz want to be a biological mother?

>>8528304
Yeah, denying hormone blockers is more harmful. It's child abuse.

>>8528292
Shit I'd be happy with pre-pubescent size. I gotta be high on uppers to hide mine 100%

Munchhausens by proxy has a prevalence--4 cases per 700 admitted to pediatric wards.

This can certainly happen but the suggestion that its so common is a retarded alarmist troll. Why dont you get a life OP?

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>>8528278
>Having a trans kid doesn't attract attention and sympathy.
You still don't understand munchausens. Yes, it does attract attention when you have a small child transition. It's not like you can hide it from the school. There would be several meetings, lots of appointments with lots of files, letters, paperwork and attention, attention, attention.

Even animosity is attention that leads to others having sympathy.
>(sobbing) "That doctor said I was abusing my princess. Doesn't he know how hard this is? I didn't choose this?!?! I'm going to have to get a lawyer! Maybe even call the news!"

>>8528292
no. Early transitioning isn't common, but it can become common because "trends".

We're going to see how the grass isn't greener due to early transitioning. There's a big difference between stopping puberty mid way and never going through it at all.

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>>8528304
No, because the whole point is that emotionally-unfit parents raise emotionally-unfit children, of the kind who are "confused about their gender", and who "feel dysphoria" despite contextualizing themselves as male.
There's enmeshment, i.e. the parents see the children as part of themselves, not as independent people. Hence the parents can treat the child as male, or as female, as the child won't strongly rebel one way or another.

The "giving a child blockers" is a symptom. I'm not talking about transgenderism here but about dysfunctional psychology, everything else is a side-effect.
Giving them blockers isn't the abuse, the abuse is the kind of helicopter-parenting what leads them to being gender-confused in the first place.

Again that doesn't include kids who are clear about what gender they are, and contexualize themselves as either gender *despite*, not with the help of, their parents and society.

>>8528173
I would certainly say it's abuse. C'mon. Kids don't know what they want to be let alone what gender they think they are.

>>8528302
>you're talking about systematic, extreme levels of abuse, or you'll find yourself in a David Reimer situation with the kid rebelling to be their true gender.
lol, and you act like that wouldn't happen. David Reimer is a perfect example of this because it tool him growing up to have the strength to deal with the issue.

He still killed himself over it and it destroyed his brother.

>>8528314
>Yeah, denying hormone blockers is more harmful. It's child abuse.
but it isn't. You're male.

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This all reads like dumb right-winger talking points, OP, and you sure are assuming or inventing a lot of shit based on the simple headline of "kid is now trans".

>>8528228
No not really, in fact i was just being critical. You cant let the bad decisions of others restrict options for everybody else.

>>8528325
>This can certainly happen but the suggestion that its so common is a retarded alarmist troll
no, I'm arguing it's a very convenient cover for Munchausen by proxy because of what a trendy and touchy issue it is.

>>8528347
This desu.

>>8528338
David Reimer strongly identified as male by age 9 and Money was aware of that fact, in fact he was aware even earlier. He transitioned at 15. Shoo shoo, bad troll

>>8528356
Your originally argued that abusive parents could somehow conceal the abuse from psychologists who watch childrens gender identity issues like hawks. Totally bullshit scenario 1

Then you argued that if the doctor detects the child is not trans, the parent will blackmail the doctor by going to the media. Totally bullshit scenario 2. These pediatricians very often turn kids down when they recognize they do not fit the criteria for GD. They will not give a shit if the parent rants off insane threats and will actually probably report the parents

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>>8528332
>Giving them blockers isn't the abuse, the abuse is the kind of helicopter-parenting what leads them to being gender-confused in the first place.
okay, I see your point but denying your child going through puberty because you're a psychopath is pretty bad and can do a lot of damage.

I guess the real question of the this thread is this:

"How do you separate the trans kids from the "normal" kids with psycho parents that have Munchausen by proxy syndrome?"

I mean, look at celebrity moms ITT. Do you think anyone has the power to stop them from fucking them up like Carrie Fisher's parents did? And she was just a drug addict. Imagine being a drug addict with "gender issues" you never asked for.

Pic related. Age 5.

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>>8528173
Reminder the string search proves that this is the ban evading pedophile from before.

Sage and report. This is the same guy who's posted porn of naked kids and stalked underage while bragging about it. Stop him now or he'll escalate to the stalking and then child porn like last time.

>>8528370
>Your originally argued that abusive parents could somehow conceal the abuse from psychologists who watch childrens gender identity issues like hawks. Totally bullshit scenario 1
lol, you're underestimating these parents and how difficult the conversation would be for that medical professional.
>"Your child is not transgender, you're influencing them to feel that way"
Watch the shit hit the fan when that happens. Also, these kids of parents "doctor shop" for people that will be more sympathetic.

The recent trans "whatever" is going on in society is a gift to these crazy parents. It's the perfect cover.

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>>8528173
http://archive.loveisover.me/lgbt/thread/4511514/#4511529
Reminder to report and sage. This kid fucker's guilt is overwhelming and he's been raiding the board for years. Contain him before he posts CP for old times sake.

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>>8528391
You said the same thing last time pedoshit. Can you go for a single post without drooling over kids?

>>8528391
Doctors check these kids out for YEARS before assigning hormone blockers. And yes, if the child says they are not trans and the doctor documents abuse they WILL report it.

>taking an abused child to people who train 8 years to recognize and protect abused children is the "perfect cover"
I'm done with you

>>8528407
>"Munchausen syndrome by proxy doesn't ever happen because muh pet issue."
Yes you are done. gtfo.

>>8528415
This post doesn't make sense.

>>8528250
You fantasize about some fucked up shit m8

>>8528398
Holy shit I've been arguing with a pedo? I was fucking wondering why he had a creepy collection of kid pictures to post. Fuck me

>>8528419
how about because you're a fucking idiot with an agenda.

Munchausens happens. It's good if they get caught, but you're acting like it's impossible because the kids are trans.

But that's the entire argument of this thread. It will happen because of enablers like you.

>>8528422
DESU i think there's actually a thread where he brags about how it's normal to sleep with teenage girls so yea. Kinda creepy.

>>8528422
The pics were pulled off google and /pol/ because we have the internet these days.

The other tranny-anon has no argument so Xhe started called people pedos.

>>8528422
Oh >>8528173 does worse. He starts with nonsexual photos and then escalates to posting his snapchat links where it's actual cp this guy is obsessed with kids and their nads. Really creepy. Report and stop him pls.

>>8528433
Yeah, you sure look at the net a lot for your collection of kid pics.

>>8528424
Nobodys acting like it wont happen, we're calling you a delusional concern troll with a clear agenda because you think we should stop hormone blockers--which long term studies back up near universal adult satisfaction--for your retarded concern troll

fuck off and get a life, stop obsessing over trans people you fucking weird fuck

>>8528443
He's obsessing over kids and has posted like a dozen think of the kids threads with all his fettishy pics. Also he posted cp at least once and that's why he's ban evading.

>>8528442
okay. you sound like a professional.

I'm on board with ya op. Personally I believe no child should receive any form of medical treatment at all for anything on the off chance that their insane mother is faking it all. Children with medical issues rights should never be put above the relatively small in comparison population of children without medical issues whose parents pretend like they have medical issues. I'm glad to see other people are coming around to my point of view.

>>8528460
>Personally I believe no child should receive any form of medical treatment at all for anything
don't be hyperbolic. Transitioning needs a lot of medical intervention for essentially cosmetic reasons for psychological ailments.

>>8528465
Why did you say the exact same thing in threads where they busted you for cp. take your fettishy kid pics somewhere else like pedochan

>>8528465
>don't be hyperbolic

I'm not. Did you see that 4 out of 700 statistic earlier in the thread? When I see something like that I don't see four out of seven hundred sick children were munchausen-ed, I see that 696 mothers must have had really good lawyers to manipulate their doctors with. This is absolutely disgusting and must stop. Ban child treatment 2017.

>>8528465
What makes them so special when thousands of children die to cancer each day?

>>8528494
they're not.

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>>8528485
>being this cynical

you're projecting

>>8528173
trannies will make excuses for anything, which is why they shout down all opposition to defend their own mental illness, even if it results in the abuse of a child.

/lgb/ when?

>>8528212
You'd better believe it because that's how HSTS kids convince themselves they are the other sex.

>>8528538
Do you people actually think people fall for your trolling? That we somehow can't tell that you're not one of us despite pretending to be?

You can always tell when people come into /pol/, but you somehow think that's intrinsic to the posters there, not to board culture en masse.

Rather cute, in a silly sort of way.

>>8528548
You're right. If hirohito got rid of the "t" there would be only two threads on /lgbt/.

>or maybe someone else would get to talk and the quality would improve

>>8528173
I don't get it, what's the big deal if some kids do get transitioned as long as they're happy that way?

Parents get to make all sorts of other decisions for their children.

>>8528571
>I don't get it, what's the big deal if some kids do get transitioned as long as they're happy that way?
>Parents get to make all sorts of other decisions for their children.
wow, terrible.

>>8528575
???

>>8528614
making decisions for their children is literally a parent's role.
are you daft?
parent's aren't perfect.
sometimes they make poor decisions.
this is life.
is it your opinion that we should give all the power to make decisions to the state?
because bureaucracies make more mistakes than most parents ever will.

>>8528675
Exactly, scrap gatekeeping.

>>8528675
I guess the idea is you're not supposed to make completely terrible decisions for your children, like putting boys in dresses and ruining their lives with chemicals because you're insane.

>>8528706
You've obviously never been a parent.
And, yes, insane people are still allowed to get pregnant.

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>>8528675
Absolutely. I hope to settle down and have a child one day who I will eventually transform into a human-lizard hybrid through many painful and experimental surgeries. It's my RIGHT as a parent to make as many bizarre changes to my child's physiology as I see fit. Why should the state have any say in the glorious metamorphosis I have planned for my unwitting offspring?

I'm thinking of going for something like my picture here. Obviously I'll be teaching them swordsmanship from a young age too and sending them to school in plate armour.

>>8528763
There are things that are normal and healthy to be and there are things that aren't.

Your ideas? Nope. Being a girl? Half the population manages.

>>8528817
half the population is mentally ill trannies?

>>8528823
>what is literacy

>>8528823
one can dream

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>>8528817
Woah woah woah. Are you implying that being a sword weilding lizard person isn't healthy and normal? That's pretty fucking bigoted. Who are you to say which anthropomorphic animals are and aren't """"""normal""""""? I think what you need to do is drop into your local privilege checking centre and get yourself checked out. I'm sensing an awful lot of shitlordery from your posts and I can't even. I just can't even.

>>8528901
Yeah kys /pol/.

>>8528431
>DESU
that doesn't mean what you think it means, autist

>>8528901
I am a lizard man warrior now.

Thank you anon. We'll fight these tranny bigots together for social justice. They need to check their mammalian privilege.

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>>8528901
>/pol/tard argument gets refuted
>instantly jumps to misguided satirism, attempting to humilate his opponent by making fun of a trait they don't even possess, because the worldview of his 70 IQ point brain can't survive unless he mentally categorizes all opponents into the same group with the same beliefs

Classic /pol/.

>>8528173
Why only apply this standard to transition and not call all medical treatment for children into question?

Oh yeah because you're a dishonest hypocrite who doesn't really believe the bullshit they spout but desperately looks for literally any excuse to shit on trannies.

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>>8528202
>>8528205
And...? I'm sure the point is very self-evident for you but care to elighten the rest of us?

>>8528224
>But that can cause harm
How?
The main effect of delayed puberty is just being slightly taller and in some cases actually healthier. Children in america actually go into early puberty from factors such as a high-fat diet while children in northern europe enter puberty slightly later and are taller and the sum result of puberty blockers is to basically just bring children in-line with northern europe.
You just don't seem to have literally any idea what you're talking about on the topic of puberty blockers and seem to be assuming things based on memes and whatever you feel should be the case.
Regardless, the point is that they offer a delay to figure things out for sure and are less harmful than forcing kids who might be trans to have a potentially damaging puberty.

>Kids can't consent, they can be manipulated and Muchausens is a real thing
So we should ban all medical treatment for children to protect them?
Or we should just ban this one specific treatment because it triggers you?
Like the answer isn't obvious lol.

>Just because the trans bullshit is "trendy" right now, doesn't mean people should ignore child abuse
But you've yet to show a single case of your claimed abuse happening to be ignored.
You're just appealing to the boogeyman of "mainstream preassure" as an excuse for your complete and utter lack of any evidence to back up your conspiracy theory of masses of children being forced to transition against their will and rescue being blocked by political correctness or trends or whatever bullshit.

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>>8528290
>I wouldn't be surprised if a doctor said "fuck it" and just gives the mother what they want
>not reaching

>can put people's careers at risk if they challenge it
Because doctors don't put their careers at risk by agreeing to whatever patients want without any oversight or thought?
Doctors regularly lose their license and even get jail time over that shit, either you're a moron who has no idea what you're talking about or you're purposefully trying to misinform people with bullshit.

>>8528370
>These pediatricians very often turn kids down when they recognize they do not fit the criteria for GD. They will not give a shit if the parent rants off insane threats and will actually probably report the parents
Yeah, if anything, if parents are trying to push a diagnosis then they'll just try another doctor unless the first is the only local option.
That's exactly why they often report the parents like you said because it pops up when they go to other doctors as a potential red flag, same shit as with people trying to get painkillers or other controlled substances. Further, even if there is only one available doctor they'll try to sue before they go to the media.

Ironically, the reverse is more common, unaccepting parents taking their kid to the doctor to "fix their issues" and when the doctor says the kid might be trans the parents refuse to accept it and try other doctors eventually including less qualified conservative and religious "alternative" doctors who are happy to say the kid has just been brainwashed by fags and need conversion therapy camp.

>>8528564
>or maybe someone else would get to talk and the quality would improve
>w-we COULD create quality threads but the meany trannies trigger me too much by existing so I can't and it's THIER fault

You GET to talk about whatever you want right now and are wasting it on being a whiney bitch blaming others for you not having anything better to say.

>>8528912
>the newfag reveals they don't know about filters
how embarrassing!

>>8530343
>and the sum result of puberty blockers is to basically just bring children in-line with northern europe.
LOL, trannies everybody. Just make shit up.

>>8530370
>Because doctors don't put their careers at risk by agreeing to whatever patients want without any oversight or thought?
questioning a psycho mother with her pet tranny project can put their career at risk.

>>8530741
>put their career at risk
Not as much as giving out prescriptions/treatment "because they were psycho and said they'd sick the liberal agenda on me"
I JUST saw a news story about some doctor being sent to prison over prescribing pain-killers too liberally.

Prescribing unneeded treatment that could cause harm is THE thing that doctors lose their practice and go to jail over.

Of course, this is all beside the point that you can't show evidence of anything you claim actually happening and you're just insisting it's a massive problem happening all over because you say it is and excusing your lack of ANY evidence by making excuses that some vague sjw conspiracy boogeyman is suppressing all the no-doubt mountains of evidence that would prove you right, how convenient...

>>8530122
t autoattackhelicopterphile

>>8530855
>you're just insisting it's a massive problem
no. that's not been said.

your kind tends to be dramatic.

I know a trans kid. She is so sweet and she does seem sincere. One can see her pain when she know people are talking to her as a boy and really if she gets fed named.

He mother was trying to force gender roles at first, but she fights for her kid. She is a vocal advocate. I don't know if she likes the attention or not. I know I believe the kid and love her.

I am trans and the mother's age.

>>8530971
yeah, check back with her in a few years. I was really into my phases in childhood too.

>>8528173
You could make quite a convincing argument that many accepted practices are a form of child abuse. Including but not limited to public schools, child acting, television exposure, junk food, processed foods, soda, hollywood movies, Alex Jones, Youtube, Facebook, video games, the internet.

Another thing to consider is that when a child hits the age of 18 there isn't a scientific reason to think they're now immune to abuse.

>>8530989
Perhaps I am projecting but the kid demi d's me of me. I never grew out of it.

>>8531006
>Another thing to consider is that when a child hits the age of 18 there isn't a scientific reason to think they're now immune to abuse.
lol, they can walk away.

Also, Munchausen by proxy isn't feeding your kids junk food and letting them watch MTV or putting a boy in a dress and taking them to the doctor.

>>8528233
>>8528266
>>8528349
can you provide any evidence that people will experience gender dysphoria before puberty
>>8531006
>You could make quite a convincing argument that many accepted practices are a form of child abuse. Including but not limited to public schools, child acting, television exposure, junk food, processed foods, soda, hollywood movies, Alex Jones, Youtube, Facebook, video games, the internet.
>forcing a child to take drugs=junk food
hmmm.

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>>8531213
These idiots will make excuses for anything. If a tranny does it, it's the "right" thing according to them. Any criticism, of any tranny issue is an "attack" on all of tranny-kind.

What they fail to see or address is how Munchausen by proxy could be masked by an insane parent claiming their child is trans.

Their argument is essentially that either nothing is wrong or Munchausen by proxy is impossible in this case.

>>8531213
Considering that junk food has long lasting effects and can do a lot of health and mental damage it is more dangerous for humans than many drugs.

>>8531269
come on, stop being disingenuous. Id rather be fat, than be misdiagnosed and undergo treatment.

>>8531314
Trannies think everyone else is like them and that they are not a tiny anomaly in the population.

It's narcissism.

>>8531583
>Trannies think everyone else is like them
find me one tranny on here that thinks that

>>8531674
You. Point proven.

>>8531690
but... I don't think that, in fact I think we're way over represented in media and I'm completely conscious about just how rare trans people are...

Why do you believe this weird stuff when there's plenty of evidence against it and you could literally ask mtfgen right now instead of making stuff up?