How can we win over TERFs without giving up what we need?
>>8522281
We don't. They are neither desirable as 'allies' in any fashion, nor are their opinions worth considering. They are, for all practical purposes, cis conservative men. ALL of them.
And not even the 'good' ones, but just the shitty ones that post on /pol/.
>>8522294
I'm offended on behalf of cis conservative men.
>>8522281
you can win over TERFS be no longer putting yourself on a pedestal.
>>8522294
This. They don't need to be won over, they need to be eliminated.
>>8522312
But you're hypocritical and base everything off feelings and demand they should be forced onto others's medical care and the like. How are you diferent from pro life?
>>8522308
...okay, maybe you're right and I was over the top. It should not be hard to at least sympathize with why we can feel that way though.
>>8522312
???
>>8522400
'Putting yourself on a pedestal' is a communicative phrase in Standard Fucktard. In English it translates to 'living'.
>>8522409
kek
>>8522409
Ok it makes sense now.
>>8522308
It's genuinely hilarious you misogynists think women defending their own interests is worse, somehow, than conservative men.
It makes me so bitter that any mtf pretends to be feminist.
>>8522444
Found the terf
>>8522444
>women defending their own interests
[citation needed]
>>8522449
I guess so, though I personally don't consider myself a feminist. But mtfs are definitely men. Shitty, lying men.
>>8522463
It's absolutely in the best interest of women to not allow men to call themselves women.
>>8522444
But you're a conservative who says lgbt people should have zero reproductive rights or body autonomy. You even ally with the alt right like the ADF which bought out wolf and now pays their salaries.
>>8522469
Found breitbart. You're not a woman, you're just a crazy man from pol.
>>8522469
[citation needed]
>>8522475
Yes, I know you're a shill for the smear campaign against feminists. You believe in very convenient nonsense based on very little fact. I'm sure you think Raymond killed 50,000 people too.
>zero reproductive rights or body autonomy
Yeah, I don't think sperm banking is more important than abortion, I don't believe dicks are female, and I don't think lesbians need to fuck you. You got me, you clever man.
>>8522492
You have nothing than your conspiracy theories and narcissistic demands that your emotions rule over the lives of all. You're definitely an entitled man masquerading as a woman.
>>8522489
Men just want to replace women and steal awards and accomplishments, fuck the ones who say no to men (aka lesbians) and control us to get their own goals accomplished. Total ego trip. Hell, the only reason you assholes even think you're women is because men legalized and medicalized transition. You're man-made.
>>8522492
>the smear campaign against feminists
AKA feminism.
>>8522507
Notice that pol says the same thing about feminists? You're doing a bad job at impersonating women.
>>8522503
It's not me with a conspiracy theory. That would be you and your theory that Wolf is being run by the alt right.
Stop being assholes to real women?
just a thought
>>8522513
You can keep clinging to the ridiculous notion that I'm a man pretending to have these views. It doesn't matter. There are plenty of women that agree with the basics of my points. I think you know that. So I doubt it really makes you feel better to pretend I'm a man.
>>8522507
I like men tho?
>>8522515
They got grants from the ADF and their leaders also have postions in the ADF.
Incidentally ADF's biggest acomplishment is probably gonna be killing abortion acess. So nice friends.
>WoLF Board member Kara Dansky applied for and received a $15,000 grant from the Alliance Defending Freedom, a group of conservative lawyers who are representing states and parents in lawsuits similar to ours across the country. Also pretty darn phenomenal.
>>8522516
>trannies are assholes!
>because I don't like them!
>muh real women
What did he mean by this?
>>8522281
For the record: Stop calling yourselves women. Stop insisting brain sex is real. Advocate for a third gender marker. When a mtf kills, beats, rapes or harasses a woman, don't say it's not male violence. Stay out of our spaces and stay out of our way. Get out of feminism.
>>8522541
>Get out of feminism.
Wouldn't catch me dead in it.
>>8522527
Incidentally, the GC who aren't men and alt right members cosplaying as feminists like you all know that WOLF is part of the ADF and alt right https://genderispoison.wordpress.com/
>>8522528
So you do the other things.
>>8522546
>the GC
>not calling them TERFs
What did he mean by this?
>>8522555
I used to believe in it. I'm a femboy, sort of. https://genderispoison.wordpress.com/2017/04/30/sheep-in-wolfs-clothing-womens-liberation-front-wolf-and-its-christian-theocrat-funders/
Wolf is undeniably an alt-right puppet. All the GC know. Lots of anons like >>8522541 are just obvious men like them from /pol/. You can't take him seriously.
>>8522281
terfs got it right
>>8522507
Most of the trans women here aren't even focused on contextualizing themselves as women, they're seriously obsessed with staying a man and continuing to be contextualized as one. In terms of wanting to take awards from women, they want to look like and be recognized as a man totally BTFOing women and feminism once and for all and inversely proving "superiority" through "immersion".
>>8522444
>It's genuinely hilarious you misogynists think women defending their own interests
I guess racism is just white people defending their own interests?
>>8522635
No since the second is just pol doing bad impersonations. Wolf is one, you sure seem like one with all the memes. You don't give legitimate points, just memes from pol.
>>8522621
I contextualize myself as a woman cara. Please notice me. Please tell me I'm not a bad person
>>8522621
I don't think I'm one of them but I can see it with other transwomen, they still hold onto some male privileges, I think it would be obtuse to deny that, even if it is just them being seen as competent around computers.
>>8522805
If you're that concerned to be recognized by that psychotic freak, then I regret to inform you that you've already failed as a person.
Am I a TERF if I am okay with transgenders but hate third gender people?
>>8523072
mtf here, i used to think the same, till i met someone who genuinely didn't fit either gender. now im pretty sure there are real third-gender people, but the vast majority are just confused tumblrites.
>>8522726
/pol/ will unironically say this, which is just another indication /terf/ is the /pol/ of feminism
>>8522507
>Men just want to replace women and steal awards and accomplishments, fuck the ones who say no to men (aka lesbians) and control us to get their own goals accomplished
lmao
>Hell, the only reason you assholes even think you're women is because men legalized and medicalized transition.
Cis women are consistently the greatest allies of transsexuals in terms of sheer numbers.
>>8523085
Transgender person here, you are a gullible retard.
>>8522281
gas the terfs, gender wars now
>>8522281
you don't, it's literally like trying to win over nazis. There's no point, their whole ideology is wanting you dead.
>>8523147
Gas them? No. Firing squad.
>>8522621
That's a lot of words to say "I'm a stupid cunt, please kill me."
>>8523237
Classic male threats of violence against women
>>8523072
No, you're an average legbutt.
>>8523334
But Cara is mtf too
>>8522635
I'm sorry about calling your a guy from pol. You have reasons, why don't you say those rather than quoting their memes. I'm sure your reasons are better.
>>8524700
>implying they aren't just bigots no different from /pol/
No TERF has even shown evidence otherwise. /pol/ even has more evidence when it comes to statistics.
>>8523131
>Cis women are consistently the greatest allies of transsexuals in terms of sheer numbers.
What have cis women ever done for us?
>>8522394
>It should not be hard to at least sympathize with why we can feel that way though.
Oh, that makes it all better...bitch.
>>8522541
If we get a third gender marker then whenever a trans person commits a violent crime it cannot be legally classified as male violence.
>>8522541
lmao I would rather be a nazi then a feminist nigga
>>8522541
>radical feminist battle-axes and estrogenized transgender harpies slinging shit at each other
wtf I love "terf"s now
>>8522463
Gay porn and depictions in media offends us and transitively RAPES poor innocent women and needs to be BANNED, the conservative right wing agrees with us :^)
>>8522483
>tfw men barge into women's restrooms in the name of protecting women
lol
>>8530560
Such is transmisandry.
>>8530555
>mfw feminists actually think this
>>8524731
>/pol/ even has more evidence when it comes to statistics.
kek, put like this terfs really look bad.
>>8523152
how do you function while being so full of shit? genuinely curious
>>8536239
>implying she isn't, despite being a tripfag, 100% correct