Explain this, please.

It's mostly progressive lefty parents too ashamed to admit their child is an oppressor class male cishet so they pretend he's transgender and force him to transition in the hopes that he's still too young to know any better.

>>8497226
Its becoming far more acceptable to be trans, and word is getting out that hormones and transition are actual things. This means far less repressing people.

>>8497226
>the trans population has doubled in the past 5 years

[citation needed]

>>8497326

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/health/transgender-population.html?mcubz=2

>>8497285

But double the population in 5 years? That is a COLOSSAL surge. The kind of increase we would expect from a tiny minority in the span of such a short amount of time, if, for example, there was widespread mainstream acceptance of trans people and celebration of trans people. I'm sure you've heard the term: transtrender.

The very existence of transtrenders seems to suggest that, at least, *they* are not "true" trans people. If enough of them start popping up, the random/biological explanation is in deep, deep trouble.

>>8497253

I think a lot of the parents just want "social points" since being trans is cool now. They actually WANT to raise a transgender child, which is extremely distressing to say the least.

Being trans means you want to be a soft man or a husky woman. Stop putting so much thought into how gay you are.

>>8497426
>extremely distressing

yes, god forbid a parent should accept their child.
if you're not kicking and screaming the entire way then you're not TruTrans!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetic_theories_of_homosexuality

this will answer every single question you have ever had about the variable prevalence of homosexuality/bisexuality/transgenderism/etc.

in addition, it will answer every question you've ever had about why your own sexuality has varied over time

it is a factor of both genes and environment

>>8497473

I think you may have misunderstood what I meant, I mean parents will intentionally steer their child into wanting to be the opposite gender, even in the absence of any indications of wanting to be trans.

>>8497518
I wonder if conservatives have clued in to the fact that fighting against this is the goal of the social engineers, as it will give them a wedge of both 'sides' that believes parents shouldn't be allowed to raise their own children..which is a longstanding goal.

Probably not. They aren't particularly bright.

>>8497551

Neither are many lefties. Especially since they're often ignorant of statistics, since it disagrees with their worldview.

>>8497226

what is this even saying

>>8497226
People are more willing to openly admit being trans since there is more awareness, better treatment and less stigma now than in the past. A similar pattern has been observed with other conditions.

>>8497370
so it's two factors then

>>8498429
See: >>8497370

You haven't explained away his argument.

We laughed at cureanon, but the hilarious thing is he's probably right.

>>8498441
have you ever heard of women making out with other women in bars for attention? does that mean that lesbians don't exist?

have you ever heard of munschausens? does that mean that diseases don't actually exist?

you seem to be suggesting that because transtrenders hopped on a bandwagon that means the people who actually have issues are just faking too

>>8498454
I'm not suggesting anyone is faking it.

I'm suggesting that transgenderism is not caused by a birth defect, and is caused by an Erotic Target Location Error.

It's growing over time because of pornography and porn addiction messing up our youth much quicker.

STOP FAPPING, START LIVING!

>>8498462
but you never said that at all until this post

there are children under the age of ten who have spent their whole lives identifying as their non-birth gender, have much porn have they watched

>>8498474
There is more than one cause of transgenderism, anon.

While I'd say the supermajority of cases are caused by pornography use, there are some other factors at play.

That is why we're searching for a cure, and a real cause for those that aren't cured by NoFap.

The traditional narrative is wrong, plain and simple.

Seriously, try it. You'll be amazed at the benefits.

>>8498479
>we

who?

also I'm not trans and I'm very confused by your posts in this thread so far
>fakers exist, meaning the genetic explanation to transgenderism is false
>I don't mean that I mean it's caused by porn
>I mean there are other explanations

so you've just defeated your first point and we can just agree it's genetic

>>8498462
>because of pornography

riiiiight.
and video games make people shoot up their schools.
we're not buying it, tipper gore.
gay back to your christian bake sale.
feminized brains happen in utero.
go sell your jesus juice somewhere else.

>>8498495
Where did I delete my first point?

I think there are multiple causes of AGP/Trans/Dysphoria, some being porn addiction, others being unknown causes that are not understood yet.

It is NOT genetic, while it is possible, it's very unlikely given the amount of research and conflicting evidence.

There is absolutely zero evidence of what actually directly causes AGP/Trans/Dysphoria, and I'm still waiting on a citation for that.

Brain scans do NOT cause, they only correlate, which isn't evidence.

>>8498503
In some cases, it can be! It's the first step to try NoFap, up to a period of 2 years in some cases before it's cured in some people.

But if you're extremely dysphoric by this point, you probably need to wait for the cure along with me, and advocate for it.

I'm not a christian, and I'm not against masturbation when done safely in a way that does not cause fetishes to spiral out of control.

This is a paraphilia in some people's case.

>feminized brains happen in utero.
[citation needed]
This is bullshit. And no, correlation does not = causation, bitterhons.

>>8497446
Would amend this to include soft, feminized, oftentimes castrated men (or vice versa)

But otherwise ya hit it on the headerino

>>8498538
for your edification, bitterhonposter:

Sexual differentiation of the brain and its role in the expression of sexual partner preferences

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3085551/

http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/10.3389/fendo.2011.00042/full

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-the-intriguing-tale-of-the-gay-sheep-430683.html

>>8498608
Rams and animal studies are irrelevant to humans. While they are a great starting point, there is zero objective proof of it having anything to do with humans.

To put it short, find better citations, or fuck off with your bullshit.

>>8498622
They aren't irrelevant.
You're an imbecile who is afraid of facts.
Fuck off with your stupidity you daft cunt.

>Tfw most of the anons here are probably too young to remember or have heard of when this same shit was said about being gay / becoming gay

>>8498675
yeah, cuz being gay is a choice

>>8498667
Bullshit. Animal studies correlate with human studies, but they don't prove shit.

Correlation does not = causation, again bitterhons. It's rule 1 of science.

>>8498684
Being gay isn't a choice, nor is being Trans/AGP/Dysphoria a choice, but at the same time it hasn't been proven a birth defect.

Nobody knows what causes it, but to be honest nobody really cares as there is no innate distress or dysphoria caused by being gay, lesbian or bisexual apart from social factors.

There's people who don't want to be gay, but they are mostly due to social factors.

It's very likely we'd find an actual cause of gay, bisexual and lesbian people if we had objective evidence what caused dysphoria in Trans/AGP/Dysphoric people.

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>>8498709
You don't even understand science or you would realize how foolish you sound.

This isn't even a case of correlation.
This is a case of female ewes mounting other ewes when they reach sexual maturity.
It can be duplicated by applying androgens to the mother during pregnancy.

You're little "theory" that transsexuality is caused by masturbation is ludicrous.

If that were the case everyone would be trans.

Go eat some cornflakes and stop fapping if you're ashamed. Stop spouting fake science.

>>8498752
I never, ever claimed that transsexuality wasa caused by masturbation.

In some cases, Trans/AGP/Dysphoria can be caused by *porn addiction*, not just masturbating alone.

Not ALL cases, either. There is multiple causes for Trans/AGP/Dysphoria, it's just logical to try the easiest solution first.

It's not a 'theory'. I'm not ashamed of fapping, I just think the modern culture's pornographic fapping is causing a lot of issues.

Go ahead and fap if you don't fap to sissy shit that makes you AGP.

>>8498769
[citation needed]

>>8498769
[citation would be nice]

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>>8498769
>modern culture's pornographic fapping
yes, it is a relatively recent innovation due to modernism and modern things that are modern causing fapping and such!

>>8498884
They didn't have shit like sissy hypno, high speed internet porn that shoots like 300 pictures a minute, and 60FPS pornographic mediums of constant sex that comes out of real life video photographers of people having sex.

It is relatively new to have high-speed internet porn. The old days of porn were relatively safe, anon.

>>8498816
>>8498825

>It's not a 'theory'

Bitterhons can't even fucking read.
I never claimed it was fact from god.
It's currently science being researched, that has positive low evidence so far.

Check out Your Brain on Porn for more information.

>There is absolutely zero evidence of what actually directly causes AGP/Trans/Dysphoria.

This includes NoFap, bitterhons. But at least give it a fucking shot before you knock it.

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>>8498924

You're certifiably insane, anon.

i did no fap for a year it made me desperate for sissy porn lol. usually i like normal porn.
cure anon is emotionally involved and not thinking clearly. i gave up caring about cureanon when animal dimorphism was ignored to complain about the post y2k internet porn.

>>8498976
I'm not a fucking christian, and it's not about self-rape. Religious zealots have tried to take over the NoFap movement pretty badly, but that's not the point. Look for the scientific researchers, not the christians.

>>8499014
Animal dimorphism has nothing to do with Trans/AGP/Dysphoria. Piss off, bitterhon troll.
Infact, I've seen you a few times before. I know your posting style. Let's give you a name, shall we? Let's call you "whinyanon". Because all you do is whine and come up with bullshit.

In extreme cases, especially AGPs, you may have to not watch porn for 2 years. You can still masturbate after 1 year if you must, just don't fap to porn, or porn fantasy. Just fap to the feelings of your dick.

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>>8499038
>Just fap to the feelings of your dick.

comedy gold

>>8499106
Ever tried it? No?
Then laugh all you want.

First they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

>>8499119
Masturbating without either porn or fantasizing is just purposely taking the joy out of the act.

>>8499145
Incorrect. It's a safe measure, in order to keep your brain safe and secure. It's not about "taking out the joy of masturbation". If you want to enjoy sex, you should probably be fucking a real person. It's incorrect brain wiring, and it has to stop. It destroys love.

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>>8499119
>then you win

what do you win, anon?
the fap olympics?

>>8499161
Research into a cure for AGP/Trans/Dysphoria, and then an actual cure for AGP/Trans/Dysphoria if it exists.

If the traditional narrative is somehow right and absolute and complete proof of the cause is found of AGP/Trans/Dypshoria which can be screened for at birth, and we never have to worry about trapping ourselves again.

Indisputable evidence would immediately fix a shit ton of our problems as AGP/Trans/Dysphoric people.

cutting off my balls was a great cure
t. no longer feel like shit
cited, cisshit.

>>8499180
An orchi is a very extreme option, but if caused by an extreme paraphilia, may be a legitimate option. As long as you don't trap yourself and take E with it, then you haven't cured shit.

>>8499189
>As long as you don't trap yourself and take E
See, now you're trying to take the joy out of being a eunuch, too.

What gives? Do you just hate fun?

>>8499197
I don't hate fun, no.
There's nothing wrong with fun, as long as it doesn't result in you harming yourself by trapping yourself.

Plain and simple. HRT has many downsides, as we all know. Better than drinking and drugs? Most likely. However, it's essentially giving up who you are, and trapping yourself.

Don't do that to yourself, you'll never be happy being a bitterhon.

>>8497226
They are both wrong.

>>8497226
because transgenderism is just another way of self perception. it's like a philosophy. as more people come out it becomes more accepted and more people begin to consider it.

Whether it is a trend or the expression of previously repressed people who got liberated by acceptance, only time will tell, when the rate either falls, grows or stays about the same.
This being a psychological issue it's tied to social trends, just like there are suicide waves in perfectly healthy societies.

Transtrenders with zero dysphoria thinks it's cool to call themselves trans.

>>8498462
Mongoloid. You think being trains is a sexual thing.

Mtfs are just women with a glandular disorder. Thats why we take hormones, its to bring the body in sync with its ideal hormonal conditions and alleviate some of the disfigurement causedby our condition.

To say this is just a sexual thing is absurd. Somebody saying their trans just for sex an sex alone is like hearing somebody say that their a willing burn victim for the cool cast signings they will get.

>>8499106
Idk what this retard is talking about. I've heard from the non-religious advocates of NoPorn that fapping to your imagination is good for you.

>>8497226
The left one is the actual definition of being trans, the right one is statistics about those who are diagnosed or identify as trans. And statistics without citations are almost meaningless anyways.

>>8508145
oh gosh, slight silly mistake I forgot to mention that the rise has correlated with a recent spike in trans acceptance and visibility so its going to be expected.