I fucking knew it I'm not trans. Just because I have dysphoria

>>8480311
>done
...cutting off your feet?

Te vast majority of mtfs don't cut their dick off

>>8480311
See ya in a year or so, hon <3

>>8480334
>hon
KEK THE DOUBLE MEANING

>>8480311
>But everyone feels dysphoria
>But everyone feels dysphoria
>But everyone feels dysphoria
What did she mean by this?

>>8480311
You can keep your dick and still be trans, mate

>>8480311
>she fell for the 'man in the mirror' argument
>doesn't realize the slight difference between HOLY FUCK I'VE GOT THE WRONG HORMONES and 'gee, I think my nose looks too big'.

LOL. See you at 42, hon.

>>8480311
>everyone feels dysphoria, the key factor is what you yearn for. Nobody is satified with the man in the mirror
Right, and the word for those whose dissatisfaction comes from their sex is trans.

>tfw not trans but transitioning anyway
Feels good desu

>>8480376
>>8480379
I like how these are literally the opposite views but both still say OP is a tranny.

>>8480356
what do you mean?

>>8480311
People with BIID tend to also be trans.

>>8480385
same

>>8480385
>>8480422
Explain yourselves!

>>8480418
Have you considered maybe it's because people will jump on your back to tell you all about transition and stuff because it's become relatively more acceptable when BIID will never because until the day our grandchildrens will get to get augmentations it's a literally crippling disorder?
Hrt is a treatment not a cure but it aims to make the tranny at least semi-functional in society. If people with BIID could just lop off body parts you'd have to pay for the surgery and then pay for invalidity welfare.

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>>8480311
>I fucking knew it I'm not trans.
how did you figure you are not if you had doubts? I need to figure myself

>>8480441
I'm just memeing, really. I'm just not hyperfeminine and never had AWFUL dysphoria, but I'm doing it because I'd rather be female, be treated as female, and have a vagina. But since I never experienced the whole million years of agony thing as strongly, I sometimes felt not trans enough. That was my excuse for like 7 years at least.

>>8480709
I feel the same way. I'm just not sure if dysphoria is going to hit super hard when I'm 40 or what.
But I've always been basically alright with myself during daily life I just remember always having thoughts of wishing to be a girl and a lot of my fantasies revolve around switching genders.

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>>8480734
protip: very easy to cope with body modifications
just hit the uncanny valley and if you're still not satisfied set cap on honhood. You won't care if people do double takes because they'll be staring at the freakshow you voluntarly became.

>>8480793
Well at least I'm already kind of used to people treating me like a freak from when I had long hair and wasn't on HRT.

>>8480800
>tfw been male with very long hair for more than ten years
is that why I rub people the wrong way? I always though it was because I'm an asshole.

>>8480810
I dunno I was super skinny and had long hair and people used to call me a tranny and most workplaces don't like men with long hair either, especially retail. I worked retail and most of the managers were pretty open about hating me, like they always treated me like shit.

>>8480709
>never had AWFUL dysphoria
>I'd rather be female
>rather
That's enough that plenty of people would call you cis. What age did you start transition and how long have you been on HRT? Any regrets about transitioning?

What made you decide in the end that you would transition?

>>8480734
Same questions for you please anon.

>>8480867
I've been on HRT like 9 months but still haven't transitioned socially. I started a few months shy of my 21st birthday. Only regret is infertility, but... I think I was infertile to begin with. I only had like 120 ng/dl of testosterone in me, and I barely produced cum when I masturbated even before. I think that's part of why my dysphoria was never bad; I never had SUPER strong masculinization other than my shoulders and height (6 ft).

>>8480867
>Same questions for you please anon.
I started close to when I was turning 25 and have been on HRT about 7-8ish mo's now, did AAs only at the start for about 1.5 months
I don't know if I exactly have any regrets. It's not like I was abandoning a life of glory or anything lol
Most of the downsides are hardly because of myself, it's just because of everyone else in the world. Like being a twinkhon with tits is kind of shitty socially speaking.
I started transitioning because I have always had trouble visualizing myself as a guy. When I grew a beard I felt pretty dissociated. Had lots of fantasies growing up of being a girl and wishing I was a girl. Also I do some agp stuff like self-insert as the girl in porn.

Also like >>8480899 I think I coincidentally was also kind of low T. I have only ever had watery jizz and have had erectile dysfunction my whole life. I never got initially tested though cause I self-medded and didn't get tested until like a month ago or so (I know kind of wreckless lol), so that might just be all in my head.

>tfw was cis until transition made me trans
Anyone else?

>>8480961
>tfw not transitioning and have to stay cis

>>8480899
>I've been on HRT like 9 months but still haven't transitioned socially. I started a few months shy of my 21st birthday.
Then your repression for 7 years was since you were 14?

How did you realize you were different from other boys, assuming like a typical AGP you weren't super feminine?

Why did you decide to transition even though you weren't super dysphoric?

>>8480933
>I don't know if I exactly have any regrets. It's not like I was abandoning a life of glory or anything lol
Aw. But still, you were giving up being physically cis male for being a trans woman instead. That's not a choice everybody would make just for rather being female.

>Most of the downsides are hardly because of myself, it's just because of everyone else in the world.
Yeah. It's sad. I wonder how many more people would transition like you are, but don't for that reason.

>Had lots of fantasies growing up of being a girl and wishing I was a girl.
What would make you wish you were a girl or feel jealous of girls?

>>8480961
Would you answer these questions and >>8480867 too if you like?

>>8481081
>What would make you wish you were a girl or feel jealous of girls?
I'm not even sure why I wanted it when younger. I wasn't extremely gender non-conforming, I was mostly just neutral. I did well getting along with both boys and girls. I didn't do extremely masculine things not because I thought I was a girl, it was just cause I was a skinny nerd. Even with all my male friends none of us were stereotypically masculine. Like I hear all these stories of GNC kids thinking not playing sports, having issues with mens clothes, having long hair, etc. is somehow indicative of transsexuality and it confuses me, because growing up that was my issue but it was also an issue with all of my cis male friends so I never felt any major alienation from men, and I still don't despite barely having any masculine interests other than technology and science.
Mostly envious at the way girls look I guess. I hate dressing like a girl cause I can tell I'm kind of mannish. I don't really like the way I look as a guy though, I don't like dressing like a guy cause I still feel like I look ugly so I mostly wear plain clothes like jeans and sweaters everyday cause I'm not a huge fan of my body. Plus I hate things like body hair and beard hair. I went with pretty short crew cuts and beard for a bit cause all my friends encouraged me to man up a bit, and every time I looked in the mirror it felt kind of like how it is to look in a mirror while on mushrooms or dxm, I feel very dissociated from the image.

I used to say the same thing anon.

Literally even two weeks ago if you had asked me what I thought about transgender people I would've said they were fucking mentally ill retards who needed to be shot in the head.

Then this week my dysphoria broke me, I couldn't repress it any longer without imploding from the pressure.

Yesterday I saw a doctor and got referred to an endocrinologist to start HRT and will be proceeding with my transition.

You'll be back.

>>8481122
>Like I hear all these stories of GNC kids thinking not playing sports, having issues with mens clothes, having long hair, etc. is somehow indicative of transsexuality and it confuses me, because growing up that was my issue but it was also an issue with all of my cis male friends so I never felt any major alienation from men,
I don't know if you believe the AGP/HSTS typology, but this is exactly what it's meant to explain. An AGP has no reason to feel she's alienated from men, and an HSTS by definition does.

>>8481186
question
how do you tell if you feel alienated from men specifically when you feel alienated from everyone

>>8481081
Which questions?

>>8481186
Except I only really get along with certain men. If it weren't for the fact that I had other nerd friends I would have been alienated. If I was in a small town or something I legit would have been fucked.
It's not like I got along with men, the only reason anyone even remotely liked me was other guys parents told them to be "nice to nerds cause we'd be their boss some day." It was hardly like I actually get along with men in general though.
I don't have any really major masculine hobbies. My main friend growing up was my sister, I never hung out with my male friends outside school until after I had graduated high school and now I occasionally see two of my straight male friends I hungout with during high school. I haven't told them about my trans stuff but they know I'm gay. The only person I've talked about trans stuff to is my ex and he doesn't really understand it and he's basically distanced himself from me ever since I told him whereas before we had a pretty strong friendship, plus we had sex all the time lol

It is kind of confusing to know whether my trans stuff is just due to me being a huge fag or what. But my personality is pretty introverted so I'm not even really like other gay guys.

>>8480899
>120 ng/dl of testosterone in me,
wow thats almost female levels, are you intersex or something?

>>8481226
Any that apply to you in that post or the other one.

>>8481312
I don't think so? My testicles and penis were of normalish size, so I always went with the assumption that I wasn't. Either way, it doesn't matter, 'cause I'm pretty sure I'll be a hon.

>>8481480
Sometimes things are just genetic. Like even being low T you can still grow a beard and tons of body hair because even females sometimes are really hairy.

>>8480365

The general meaning of "dysphoria" instead of "[gender] dysphoria" in all likelihood.

>>8480311
>In the end I didn't want to cut off my dick I wanted to cut off my feet.
kek

this board is full of complete lunatics but you sir take the cake

>>8480709
Bro so many people feel a need to transition because their personality and sexuality don't comply with traditional gender roles forced upon society by abrahamic religions maybe you are a man who just enjoys being pretty and being fucked by men so according to regular ignorant society you are more of a female than male, just wanting to blend into the normie tier of society in order to avoid ridicule by going along with what they dictate is not being trans being trans is genuinely feeling deep within yourself that you regardless of social norms would feel more beautiful and free in the body opposite to the one forced upon you at birth you need to look deep into your own soul and figure out if you are a woman or a man or if you just feel scared of being made fun of for being an effeminate man who likes to feel cute and feel a bigger masculine guy hold you close to him and make you feel safe and content. Become a woman if you feel like one not because someone once said the way you where born is wrong

>>8481148
I will not simply give in, anon. I have imploded many times, and kept fighting. Keep up the good fight, STOP FAPPING, and defeat the ultimate enemy: yourself

Life is suffering and depressing whether you're trans or cis. Find your meaning in life, and fucking go for it.

Don't take HRT. Keep yourself alive, don't trap yourself.

>>8481796
another anon, I feel all this... Ive had to repress my fem side and bi urges all my life, now I dont even know what I am, I'd be happier as a woman thats for sure

>>8481796
This is one of my biggest concerns. I have no idea if just doing all my weird fem fantasies would suddenly cure my dysphoria or not. Like if I could just act like a girl and whatever else and have people be okay with it maybe that's all there is to it I dunno...
But at the same time whenever I dress like a girl and see a man in the mirror it's horribly depressing. Plus when I'm with guys and bottoming I just feel so weird like how could this guy love fucking me when I have so much mannish features? Plus I feel weird doing girly stuff while looking a man.

>>8481844
Is that because you wouldn't have to face oppression or cos you think you would be cuter with tits and a round ass? That's what you need to figure out. If it's to avoid oppression then don't do it you have to battle society's ignorance not run from it

>>8481856
So is it just a cosmetic issue you would rather look like a girl or is it a social issue would you rather be treated like a girl or are you already treated as a female by friends and family

>>8481869
What if it's both?

>>8481897
I don't really know what being treated like a girl really means exactly. My parents were never happy about me having long hair. Plus I had like tons of hair products and cosmetics, but they didn't seem horribly against it they just didn't like it.
Everyone just thinks I'm kind of weird and I can only pull it off because I'm pretty small and fem right now but obviously I won't be when I'm 30+ years old. Like I barely even femmed up and already was receiving a ton of social backlash and I certainly didn't make it as far as I would actually like...
I mean I like how some guys treat me during sex or relationships I guess. Like I enjoy bottoming cause I like cuddling under guys arms and such. I'd imagine I can do that as a gay guy for quite some time but eventually I'd be an ugly balding old rat of a man and it would be super awkward feeling. I have a hard time imagining myself as like a 40 year old guy with a receded hairline trying to be cute for guys.

>>8481903
Then be a guy in a female body and tell anyone who doesn't like it to fuck off

>>8481912
But not even cis males want to end up balding and fat we all want to be cute :)

>>8481945
That's what I wanted to hear.

>>8480311
inb4 turboHon comes back in 15 years to leave a suicide note.

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>>8481797
>>8481148
Literally same fagging.

Fuck this whole bait thread.

>>8481956
Not really. All the cis guys I know seem perfectly fine with it cause they just say they'll shave it bald and grow a beard. I don't know what guys you hang around but usually MPB is kind of a minor deal, guys freak out about it a tiny bit then just shave it off and move on because they can just look at guys like jason statham who looks great with mpb and other guys like that.
I don't think I could handle doing that... I'd be like a 120lbs old twink with MPB, it would look fucking ugly as all hell. Plus all the bodily changes.... I already hate my body hair so much, I spend like hours and hours every week plucking hairs off and epilating everywhere I don't want to get back hair and chest hair and whatnot. Plus facial structure changes and all that.
I mean yeah if I could freeze time and stay as the same age it might eliminate my dysphoria but that's entirely because I haven't masculinized very much. It's not the present time that worries me it's the future.

Most cis guys I know are very insecure about their hair I am going through a pretty bad patch of trying to fuck myself up on the hope I die because I don't feel masculine enough or like I'm pretty I hate the way I look I wish i could interact better with people I am sexully frustrated and just wish I had that bit more testosterone that would make me closer to my ideal body and personality just like you want to take estrogen to become effeminate / female

>>8481454
ok i found these

>What age did you start transition and how long have you been on HRT?
late 24, about 1.5 years

>Any regrets about transitioning?
not starting earlier

>What made you decide in the end that you would transition?
shrooms making me realize there was something really fucked up about me. then slowly realizing how much I actually hated being a man and looking like one

>How did you realize you were different from other boys, assuming like a typical AGP you weren't super feminine?
I never really fit in strongly with people. Had a few nerdy type friends but that's it really. Some people would talk about how much they wanted to fuck girls and which celebrities were hot and shit, and I never really understood so I just made shit up. But I wasn't into men so when I eventually heard of gay I knew it wasn't that. I guess one weird thing was when I kept hearing guys talk about how awesome jerking off was and so I thought I was weird that I never did it and eventually forced myself to (this was in high school)

>Why did you decide to transition even though you weren't super dysphoric?
The AGP got more and more intense, and I freaked out when realizing my hairline had been receding. I had grown increasingly depressed over a few years and I gave up on getting a gf so I figured I'd just try it

>What would make you wish you were a girl or feel jealous of girls?
I was jealous of their bodies, voices, how fucking aesthetic so many of them are, the cool clothes they get to wear, how cool certain types of girls are. and I couldn't ever be them and it started destroying me inside

>>8482153
I have really high estrogen and normal testosterone so I'm broad shouldered and hairy as fuck but I have tits it's so embarrassing I even had them through out behind anorexic and I looked like a girl then I got obsessed with bodybuilding but made shit gains cos low test so only managed to get to the point of looking vaugly like a normal guy thankfully now I have a lot of body hair and facial hair and a very masculine facial structure so I look like a reasonably alpha male but I'm too insecure to try with any girls or guys I meet that I fancy because I have the body of an old lady with saggy boobs thats covered in hair well for my age I'm 20

>>8481869
like I said I dont even know anymore, I've developed AGP so sure I'd love to look like a girl, but other times I just feel like a fem guy and only want to be that and be accepted and not put on a manly-man mask and fight for the respect

>>8482213
Like wtf do I do I was born a man and I want to be a man so I can't just go to the doctor and say I'm in the wrong body because I want to be more like my birth gender than I already am they'll just say go lift some weights and avoid soya but there's estrogen in the global water supply that's making us all effeminate and submissive

>>8482262
Calm down alex jones. You can get medication for gyno without having to go on TRT.

>>8482262
if you have such a problem as gyno you should see endo and legit get aromataze inhibitors or SERM, hopefully it will help you balance your hormones and reduce gyno

>>8482232
You don't have to be manly to stand up for yourself stop following preset gender roles

>>8482283
that implies acting manly and looking the part too, or no one will take you seriously, Im not in SF

>>8482278
That sounds like good advice I'll look into it the problem is more a deep seated insecurity I have from being mistaken for or treated like a girl

>>8482292
What is sf

>>8482300
San Francisco

>>8482302
Tbph I have a thing for mtf trans girls so I'm not gonna try to talk a guy out of becoming a woman

>>8480311
>Nobody is satified with the man in the mirror
Except FtM after T

>>8482330
do you have enough of a thing for mtfs to make your own cutie :333

>>8482437
>>8482330

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>>8480311
Damn right!

BLANCHARD GOT $WAG

>>8482419
Except they rarely are too

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>>8486748
That he does.