Do you identify with villains?

>fabulous
I think you need to leave

A lot of trans people probably identify with Ozymandias from Watchmen because they're months on HRT and when they come out people are like "Dont transition!"

But it's too late cos they already got the scripts and werent stupid enough to jeopardise their plan.

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My goal in life is to become a close to pic related as possible and I'm not even meming.

>>8477259
Well, they have a flair and mannerism that is totally not cishet-normative.

>>8477288
And they often love themselves for qualities that make them social outcasts and victims of persecution.

>>8477275
I know you aren't meming because I've felt that way about some questionable role models of my own a time or two.
They just weren't villains per se.

>>8477258
It's been a trend for years and years to portray villains as gay or bi, it's a very old trope.

>>8477275
I bet I could beat you in sfv noob

>>8477258
Always rooted for the villains since I was a child. There just always more fun and interesting characters. The heroes are all copy paste boring archetypes.

I also think it's probably becouse, the villains want to change the world, while the heroes all want to keep it the same. I don't like the world, and it doesn't like me - why wouldn't I want to change it?

>>8477349
>>8477698
Exactly! How is the hero is seen as the sympathetic one?

Oftentimes the bad guys are often the ones trying to change things while the good guys are trying to preserve or protect things.
This is done partly because it's easier to keep a long-time series static than trying to change it up consistently and also because too much change to the prevailing order is seen in the collective consciousness as bad.
As people who aren't fully content with their lives I imagine, the idea of changing things in them is appealing.

>>8477698
oh well you already said that

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>>8477403
This. It's called "gay coding" and it's a pretty well-versed phenomenon.

Probably started when rugged masculinity's was established as a pure virtue and anything effeminate in males was immoral, so like the 40s and 50s.

Just look at the popular Disney villains. Scar, Ursula, Maleficent, Jafar, King John, Captain Hook, this fucking faggot right here, etc.

All of them either have traits of gay men, or have traits gay men idolize. I don't think it was done maliciously or even consciously, but it's fairly undeniable.

>>8478398
This is covered in a section of the documentary "Do I Sound Gay?" and some earlier non-Disney movies that influenced the trend are analyzed there.

>>8478401
Yeah, like I said it's a pretty mainstream topic that's discussed a lot. It's just nobody really minds because people like camp villains.

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Yes I do, all my life
But mostly villains who end up getting redemption and help the good guys at the end, my first experience was when I was years old, I used to watch sailor moon and when Neptune and Uranus came out they were portrayed as bad guys and then became good I was so in love with the idea that I got stuck with me and even now days villains like Kagura from inuyasha or Emma Frost from the XMEN are what keep me interested in the shows. So far I watch Game of thrones only because of Cersei, she's been a really evil villain from the beginning and she is now quee, I love seeing her mess with other people's lives.

>>8477263
This is literally how I approached my transition lmao

>>8478593
6 years old**

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>>8478398
I mean, Ursula is literally a drag queen.

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>>8478398
>I don't think it was done maliciously or even consciously

For many years Disney was filled with gay worker bees, from the animators to the script writers to the musicians to the set decorators, costume designers and even the accountants.
It was one of the best places to work in Los Angeles for gay people for a long time and so I'm pretty sure that these characters (caricatures?) were intentionally done, either as a covert shout-out to fellow gays or as an attempt at subverting the wholesome Disney image.

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>>8477258
Repgen reporting

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>>8477258
My favourite characters tend to be not exactly villains, but anti-heroes.

>>8478723
Why do you wear the mask?

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>>8477258
Because generally villains are more interesting.
I wouldn't be surprised if there's more effort put into villains than heroes.

>>8477275
>tfw no gf like this

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>>8477258
I always relate to whichever girl suffers the most.

>>8478398
What about Frollo, Clayton, Gaston and the hon from Mulan?

>Maleficent
Women don't count.

>>8479135
You mean the hun from Mulan?

Disney movies typically have campy moments.

>>8479135
Nobody said ALL villains, Anon. And Frollo is decidedly not masculine.