Whyd I have to be a bottom? Did i transform myself into being

>>8473619

i dont think i was meant to be this way, did porn turn me gay?

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>>8473624
Puberty is where the gay begins afaik

That's just how it goes

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OP the sad truth is that there are many, many examples of young men such as yourself developing autogynephilia in concurrence with their overconsumption of (and addiction to) pornography.

>>8473678

But i like being male and i dont find girls attractive anymore..

>>8473661

I dont think im agp

>>8473750
>only big dick porn or shemale type mostly
>start to only notice the guy, always self insert as the girl..
>only attracted to men, only feel submissive, notice men a lot in real life and be really embarassed around them.. dont even think about having a wife anymore...
definitely agp

>be 16
>only watch porn with cartoon characters fucking
>watch cartoon porn constantly
>now I'm a furry who wants to be a cartoon and have sex
>waaaahaaaapeeeen?

retard

>>8473770

So im not gay??

I really like transgirls

I consider myself a straight man

>>8473779

I should also make note i dont find tgirls attrqctive , just men

>>8473806
>only attracted to men

you're not agp.
ignore that shitposter.
yes, you sound gay.

>>8473806
I'm a straight man

Would you blush around me? I would enjoy that

>>8473829

Fuck you. This shitposter will make you bend over for daddy

>>8473619
Where are you from, OP? You sound cute~

>>8473619
You sound like me anon like exactly 2 years ago. about a year after that point in my life I started to finally hit puberty and it freaked me out so I started tranny pills to stay young and cute forever though.

>>8473849
Michigan..

>>8473879

Im NOT a tranny

>>8474224
Join us

>>8474295

1. Dont want smaller dick

2. Dont want sterility

3. I like being a boy

4. Im tall and have broad shoulders and look good as i am.

>>8474169
Damn, wrong continent
Ya still down to chat sometimes? I got discord or skype if you'd like

>>8474316

ok..

Well, most people don't just "become" gay one day, especially at that age. It's very likely you've either suppressed moments in the past, or are lying to yourself.

However, you don't have to be a bottom. Bottoming is something you either instinctively want to do or you don't. If you're thinking "I'm a bottom" because you're a size queen, that doesn't necessarily mean you're a bottom. Most really hung guys are used to bottoming at least a bit for people who refuse to get stretched anyway (20% of the guys I've met refuse).

>>8474316

what is your discord

>>8474326
I'm in Michigan too ill fuck your ass

>>8474525

do you have a discord?

>>8473619
You're starting to know yourself. Being gay, bi, straight is just a label, don't worry about that. Meet people, male or females if you want, hang out with them, see how it goes.

> maybe think im gay, cry a lot and fall into a deep depression

You're attracted to what you're attracted to, anon, don't push yourself too hard on that. But at least for me acceptance (I'm bi) hasn't been easy, I'm 27 but just developed consciousness about my sexuality a couple of years ago, I was in denial but truth is that I've wanted to fuck another guy since I was 13. There is no point on swimming against the tide, so if you're feeling bad because you like dudes just accept it, it's not that bad, I mean, there are many other characteristics about you, you're not just your sexuality.

>>8474817

But isbt 15 enough to know you are straight, not gay

>>8475445
I don't understand what you meant, but supposedly you consolidate your sexuality during your teen years. In my case I was in denial so it postponed a little.

>>8475489

I mean like. What even is my purpose in life if im a bottom?

>>8475662
Find your purpose in life not in bed. You're not just you want to do sexually. And if being a bottom pleases you, then be a fucking bottom and enjoy your life. You don't want a life of regrets just because you can't stand what you like like a man.

>>8475662
Not everything revolves around your sexual prefference. Keep living your life as you do and do the shit you want to do in the privacy of your bedroom.
Your purpose has not changed in the slightest from when you weren't a gay bottom. Just get yourself a nice top boyfriend and live your damn live as normal human being that happens to be into men.

>>8475662
to take hot loads, obviously

>>8475692

But im not a slut and dont want to be a slut....

>>8475782
I'll make you a slut against your will.

>>8475798

you probably arent even attractive..

>>8475782
just take hot loads from one guy then.

>>8475809
Actually I am, with a preference to dominate curious boys. I'm fairly fit, with a nice face, well sized dick, easygoing, and would play videogames if required.

But hey, it's not like we're going to get together or something.

>>8475817
so then why hit on everyone constantly?
it comes across as desperate.

>>8475858
Just bored. But also I don't hit on everyone constantly, I'm pretty reserved.

>>8475817

proof or gtfo nerd

>>8475817

why are you hitting on me anyway. post proof or you're lying

>>8475899
because I'm bi scum and I like to tease people regardless of their gender

>>8475949
Doesnt sound like someone attractive would do that..

>>8473619
Quit porn dude. Quit masturbation. But not forever. Either you'll go back to 'straight' if you were ever that or, if your attraction to men continues, confirm that you were gay.

Experiment with men if you can. Hooking up with a man is easy with phone apps. I've heard stories where straight(?) guys got obsessed with sissy stuff but when they tried it irl it wasn't enjoyable at all you might be. You might be gay and enjoy topping though, you don't know until you try it...

Don't get too hopeful. It's very likely you are a submissive homosexual. Don't lie to yourself about it. It will make you more unhappy. Your shame comes from society telling you need to be masculine. It's bullshit. Get some gay friends and realize that it's nothing to be ashamed of.

>>8475959
Are you the cocksucking OP? Shut the fuck up seriously you're an asshole. Big goofy ass who are you to talk down to people you faggot look at your post you're a big joke

>>8475662
Pathetic lmao

>>8476004
Yes Sir!
That's how I like a man to talk to me!
Like an Alpha!

Thank you Sir.
May I choke on your cock, Sir?

>>8476004

im the op

i want to see what you look like >.>

>>8476082
You're not talking to me. 4chan is not one person. I won't show you how I am because I'm not a camwhore who wants his face associated with /lgbt/ or worse, 4chan.

>>8476121

why are you a pussy?

>>8473619
>always self insert as the girl..

I have some bad news for you

>>8476156

what?

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I've always been submissive for a few reasons.
>I have a really affectionate personality
>First girlfriend was afraid of real sex but loved to mess around
>always shy and very careful around girls
Now I'm dating boys. No regrets.

>>8476156

what is the bad news??

>>8476178
>>8476450
she thinks it means you're trans but gay guys do that too.

>>8476510
so theres no way im just a confused straight?

>>8473770
I'm an AGP and no matter how much I self insert as the girl/tranny I have zero attraction to men irl. My gynephilia is so strong that I can only be pseudo bi via porn. This is after years of expressing pseudo bi via porn.

I guess that makes me a transbian. :)

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>>8476614
straight guys don't self insert as the woman.
they identify as the man.

ask one if you don't believe me.

My mind sometimes wanders into the female position but you stop that train of thought real quick or you're training yourself to feel pleasure by being a bitch.
I'd say you're a confused straight but at this point you're probably too far gone and are bi at best. It can be the most alpha sexuality if you train your mind to enjoy being the top. Otherwise you're just a faggy cumhole.

>>8476897

idk penetrating men doesnt look as good...

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>>8476897
>thinking you can control your orientation

wew lad

>>8476915
how about penetrating women?
if both are the case it's not implausible you could get around to stickin dudes

>>8476915
I wanted to penetrate other guys since puberty. Just follow your instincts.

>>8476933

idk it doesnt look pleasurable to penetrate women

>>8476945
what if you were penetrating while being penetrated? I think it's good to get your cock squeezed. you enjoyed the thought of it at some point i assume

>>8476965
Some people are born bottoms.

>>8476968

I didnt think i was gay or a bittom until 16 though

>>8476990
people changes... also it's pretty normal to realize that at that age, maybe you weren't paying attention before.

>>8477021

But i wouldve known... Ive been bullied my entire life for being "faggy"

>>8477049
Well, that makes sense. Being made fun of would make you suppress the desire.

>>8477049
Personally I didn't think I was bi until I was 18, I just saw myself as straight but with some recurrent fantasies. I was deluding myself haha. I'm not saying this is your case, because it's your life and you're knowing yourself. Also, sorry to hear about the bullying, kids can be mean, but maybe others realized your situation before you haha.

>>8477063
I think id be aware of them at least..

And its not made fun of. I was just acting gay or something.

My mom never thought i acted faggy.. Even though she disowned me when i told her how i was feeling..

>>8477095
>Even though she disowned me when i told her how i was feeling..
Really? that sucks, it's not like you're choosing to lust for cock, it's just the way it is.

>>8477111

its not like any parent is yearning to have a gay son..

>>8477163
No, but eventually they will realise that there is nothing they could or should do. Most of parents eventually accept their sons.

>>8477267

my mom is stubborn and crazy

she said liberals made me gay or something and wanted to know who i was being molested by in high school to turn gay..

>>8477273
She's in denial, it will pass, give her some time. But seriously... some liberal molested you? that's serious you know hahah

>>8477313

no she just thought that up. never molested. she'l never accept me too, she is way too religious over select topics, like being gay

>>8477344
I was just kidding, but anon... even if your mother don't accept you have to live your life the way you want it, because living with regret is way worse... but it takes strength to be honest with yourself.

At least we support you, anon. <3

>>8477352

I mean, ok..

I just wish it could go back to how it was when at least i thought was attracted to girls.

I think im just scared that being a submissive gay wont feel good or will make me feel eveb more ashamed..

>>8478791
>im just scared that being a submissive gay wont feel good or will make me feel eveb more ashamed

well, you can always try it and see how it feels and if it doesn't feel good then you can stop.

and regarding feeling ashamed: you are in charge of your feelings. you can choose how you feel. you could decide to not feel ashamed about being a submissive, or otherwise, gay.

it is your life.
take control of it and live it according to the dictates of your own conscience.

>>8478791

Your brain is screaming at you to accept the reality that being attracted to girls is what is natural, yet you're coming to this board to have weird creepy people like this >>8477352 coddle you and coerce you into believing their delusions.

Even in your response to that person you can see the discomfort at their lack of boundaries, their strange saccharine communication style, how sympathetically they act. Look how falsely uplifting their manipulation is.

"Go against your family! You will regret not fucking men! Regret is the worst feeling you could have, avoid regret! If you do what I say then you're strong"

and the most gaslighting statement of all, "be honest with yourself!"

None of it means anything to you. You are being honest with yourself. What your honest self is saying is "I have consumed too much pornography and I am experiencing a pattern of thought that makes me uncomfortable".

TAKE A BREAK FROM PORN.

>>8478828

I have taken breaks from porn

>>8478845
go back to non faggot shit porn

>>8478933
But not into 'shit' porn. That's gross..

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>>8475992
>Get some gay friends and
stop right there.

>>8479986
What's wrong with that? OP can deal with his internalised homophobia by getting to know some gay people so it becomes normal to him.

Are you one of those people who think that literally every gay man is a flaming stereotype?

>>8478828
OP can do whatever he wants, and clearly he wants to be fucked. He's just here crying that he don't like girls anymore or some bullshit like that. Yeah sure, homosexuality is produced by watching porn... lol, that should explain homosexuality through history.

Also it's nice to cuddle boys you silly anon.

Have kinda similar feelings, but differently. Recently I've actually accepted that I'm bi, and since then I've noticed that I think about guys more often, and am less interested in girls. I guess it's due to suppressing my feelings for so long, but it seems strange. Don't get me wrong I'm not one of those straight posters asking questions, I'm bi, it's just what I've been noticing.

>>8480117
What if i dont even like getting fucked by guys? Ive used dildos before and liked it but what if i dont like it with actual guys?

>>8480318
You just don't like it and move on with your life.

>>8480318
then continue using dildos, introvert

>>8480400

i dont want to be alone all my life though...

are guys even nice to have sex with?

>>8480678
Dude, if you're cute I'd ravage that little butt of yours so hard you wouldn't be able to walk for a week and I'd only leave you craving for more

>>8482397

ive been told im cute..

>>8482604
Imma need proof of that

>>8482604
Proof please.

>>8482604
>>8483182
Also gimme discord if you have one

>>8483217

just post yours..

>>8480169
Since no one's replied can someone tell me if these feelings are normal?

>>8483817
No way my dude. I don't have an alt and not gonna post my real one here

>>8484384

Fine its alexr482 #1009

>>8484703
Request sent~