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/mtfg/ - TruTrans™ SRS edition

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If you're actually Trans and interested in SRS, please join the official /SRSgen/ discord server: https://discord.gg/CyCYCZn


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• IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg

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>>8470895
>>8470895
>>8470895
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>>8472253
Pretty sure he was taking his dick out when i got up
>>8472240
I live in texas. I dont know about inviting more people to stay with me after this incident though. A room to myself sounds like heaven rn.
Unles you're cute then things change
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>>8472279
>/mtfg/ - TruTrans™ S̶R̶S̶ ̶e̶d̶i̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ Shill edition
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>>8472290

Glad you're safe anon.
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Kara is being lewd how do I calm her down if she's in heat
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>>8472300
what you have to do is basically hold her down and kiss her, try that for like 10 minutes and post results
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>>8472300

Orchiectomy.
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>>8472290
>Unles you're cute then things change
sarah is pretty fug, and also is one of the creepier posters here, so i wouldn't recommend that oddish.
just get him out, or at least get him out of your room
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>>8472304
>creepier
In what way? We're all creepy sometimes. I mean have you met me?
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>>8472279
OP spammed loads of threads, even non trans threads, with his discord link and now hijacks /mtfg/ to put it in the op AND title.
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>Make an ironic off hand joke
>Got unironically offered the dicc out of the blue
What the fug.
I don't know how to feel about this.
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>>8472312

a bit rude to misgender, could have saged and moved on fellow anon. just move on and keep posting.
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>>8472312
It should be a rule that only trips are allowed to make threads
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>>8472316
Take the dicc
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>>8472319

trips have over inflated egos as it is, using a trip in op guarantees some people will miss the thread due to filters. imagine if kayla consistently made the threads.
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>>8472323
It'll teach people not to filter in the first place, especially not sweet people like Kayla.
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>>8472320
I don't even think I'm in to that
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>>8472327

kayla needs to be filtered
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>>8472302
I agree with this.
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>tfw you develop feelings for someone you've never seen a pic of and have only briefly heard the voice of
Why do I get attached to people in this way ;__;
>>8472332
Oh
Nvm then
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>>8472303
But I already got an orchi
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>>8472337
it's birdy, isn't it

no need to be ashamed, we've all been there
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>>8472337
>nvm then
no but that's the thing i dont know
what the fuck yo
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>>8472339
No he doesn't post here
I met him on a different general
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>>8472307
I hang out in a historic cemetery, shit post aggressive lies and fictions about myself, and I'm guilty of the most terrible of all trans girl sins. I'm.... Ugly.

GOMENAIZAI
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>>8472345

>dating guys you met on 4chan

you're going to end up a transbian.
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>>8472345
i think you should ask for his discord, then get closer to him, then EVEN closer to him, then make him date you
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>>8472347
Your clothes are worse than your face. Why do you hang out in cemeteries? Just bein edgy?
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>>8472348
I haven't told him anything, he'll probably say no so it's a moot point I guess
I'm transbi so I'm already part transbian :^)
>>8472352
I've been talking to him on discord, we chat and swap SU pictures we have, he's helped me and I've helped him since we've both got problems
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>>8472363
What are "SU pictures"?
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>>8472373
autism awareness pictures
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>>8472279
See I might have actually considered joining the SRS discord because I will have that coming up soon with Brassard and still have a lot of questions. However, I really don't like mtfg in general so I will give it a miss by association.
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>>8472373
Steven Universe
We just send cute pictures related to the show back and forth
>>8472375
I'm only slightly autistic :p
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>>8472362
Hey! What's wron...never mind.
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I teach a college writing and poetry class in the cemetery. It's over 450 achers and it's older than the Civil War so it's fucking crazy. I just love the solitude, birds, crickets, and the weather. It doubles as a tree arboretum, so a lot of gorgeous rare over a hundred fifty year old trees. I walk around smoking weed on my free days.
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On some real shit, I need to go clothing shopping for sure. I just got my first pair of jeans. I also need a hair cut, and new eyebrows, and new glasses. And a new face.
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>>8472382
>Steven Universe

So yes, Autism Awareness pics.
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>>8472383
>Older than the civil war
That doesn't even qualify as old...
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>>8472394
:l delet this
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>>8472389
You've got me there
>>8472394
pre-Civil War is decently old in US terms
>>8472383
Cemeteries can be pretty peaceful
I used to go to the Bonaventure one back when I lived near it, it was always nice to just walk and think in the middle of all of it
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>tfw not trutrans
>tfw not passing barely even bothers me
B)
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>>8472398
That does look pretty fucking cool.
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>>8472400
It's my favorite place right now. It even has train tracks and a river with small fish, so it satisfies all my autistic needs.


>>8472403
It's amazing. If you're ever in New York you should go visit it. I can't get lost there anymore unfortunately, I probably know the place as well as the grounds keepers... Maybe better honestly. I'm actually planning to publish a book about my (extremely suicidal) experiences there, including a fictional ghost story where I meet a ghost woman I'm modeling after lesbian Emma Goldman. I've been renting so many books and documentaries and old news papers to prep for a tour book that isn't gay as fuck like the other 3 currently in circulation - one of which includes good places to hitch your horses.
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>>8472339
Birdy is is top tier husbando with a thick chad dick desu.
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>>8472413
Do you have feelings towards Birdy, Cistits? Perhaps some degree of lust for him?
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>>8472417
No actually and hes laughing at this post desu. We are platonic good freinds. Im like his lesbian wingman.
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>>8472400
Old stops around 1600 for me. I have a pretty good idea of quite a few of my ancestors' lives were in the XVIIth century. Easy to find records, including business contracts, prenups and wills in the archives and they're quite legible.
Before that, records are scarce except for the noble lines and many are in archaic scripts and mangled latin... So, old, I guess, is before Henri IV's reign to me...
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>>8472412
Hmmm, I'll add it to my list haha, unfortunately I've never left NZ, so the lists pretty big.
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>>8472422
>thinks a time before electricity isn't old
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>>8472420
I see. Do you help vet his sexual partners? Hypothetically speaking, if one wished to gain sexual access to Birdy, would it be advantageous to get in your good books?
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HMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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>>8472430
In order to get with birdy you need to be
>cute
>not crazy
>good kind/caring person
If you do not meet all 3 of these perquisites then dont bother.
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>>8472429
I'm pretty sure you think I'm ancient simply because I can actually remember when the USSR existed...
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>>8472438
Lamentably, my friend is none of those things. Do you think she'd have a chance anyway though?

You know how sometimes you watch a movie you already know is bad, because "it's so bad it's good" and you end up having fun anyway? It works that way with people sometimes too, you know.
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>>8472436
SNIIIIIIFFFFFFFFF
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>>8472444
be attractive, not bat shit insane, and not an awful person and you're good
>>8472445
NO STOP IT RIGHT NOW
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>>8472442
The United States of south Russia?
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>>8472450
I also remember there being two Germanies.
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I grew up in Savannah! damn, I know some people burried there
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>>8472450
the union of
>soviet
>socialist
>republics
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>>8472448
>be attractive, not bat shit insane, and not an awful person and you're good
Those are some demands, but I suppose you do command the sexual capital to make them. Never mind, Birbs.
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>>8472400
>>8472457
ment to reply -_-
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>>8472462
I wouldn't call those demands I just want a decent human being as a partner
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Wew feeling especially ugly today.
Uncanny boobs on male body and super male face.
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>>8472456
Do you remember the moon landing too?

>>8472458
Close enough
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>>8472469
ayyyyyyyyy
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>>8472472
Nah. And I wasn't at Woodstock either.
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>>8472466
Perhaps "demands" was the wrong choice of word. I didn't mean to imply it was an unreasonable set of criteria for your future mate. In fact, I think you should up it somewhat by changing "not an awful person" to "halfway decent person".

What's your favourite fruit?
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>>8472472
hey franzi, how is the bf hunt going?
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>>8472479
kiwi
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>>8472487
Understood. Thanks.
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>>8472476
> tfw the only historical event you witnessed was 9/11
It's so bring nowadays

>>8472483
It is not going anywhere but at least I got my name and gender changed now.
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>>8472493
>It is not going anywhere but at least I got my name and gender changed now.
good job franzi, i knew you could beat the gutachters (more like schlectachters)

i bet it must feel like a relief to get over that milestone
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>>8472490
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>>8471101
>>8471113
>>8471143
I want a tv show about elanna crushing various child testes in increasingly more challenging situations with her time machine. she'll be like tranny doctor who..
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>>8472497
Yes, especially since I already booked two flights with my new name and if the change wouldn't have gone through in time I would not have been able to fly :^)

Also I can get a new student ID now, was really awkward to use my old with a guy picture.
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>>8472502
how to manufacture estradiol?!
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>>8472505
where are you going? i hope it's some place cold, this heat is murdering me
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>>8472507
South Korea and Thailand, both even hotter than Germany rn ;_;
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>>8472475
> when bad days are everydays
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>>8472506
estradiol doesn't go back in time and crush your testicles.
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>>8472376

Not a lot of mtfg posters, the discord has been posted all over. Tbh, most of mtfg is all agp trips who don't plan on ever getting SRS.
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>>8472457
Cool! Savannah is a nice town.
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>>8472512
>South Korea and Thailand
wait, is it happening? are you getting SRS already?
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>>8472520
> already
I reserved my date a year ago and still have to wait until January 9th. That too long for my taste ;_;
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>>8472516
Hey what no, I want SRS, I'm just too poor.
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>>8472526
why are you going there then? surely you aren't going there for some kind of holiday?

humans were not designed to tolerate temperatures above 25 degrees
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>>8472312

If you saw it in femgen and cross post here, I posted it in the right place. c:>>8472312
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>>8472515
ya,that would be better for sure. I'm just more worried about prepping for the upcoming Trumpocalypse
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>>8472516
senpai wanting srs is the most agp thing you can do
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>>8472534
easiest thing is to get a few horses and drink the urine of a pregnant mare every day.
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>>8472532
I go there for srs, I just booked super early to get a cheap flight and a seat with more space
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>>8472542
could I murder pubescent girls and eat their ovaries instead? /sarcasm
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>>8472544
oh sorry, i derped out and thought you were going there like very soon

you're suporn's first client of the year, right? let's hope he doesn't turn up with a hangover desu
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>This bitch couldve fucked your girlfriend

Fucking roastie reeeeeee
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I'm fucking terrified to send my paper work to suporn.

>not full time
>no legal name change
>only been HRT 12 months

Fuck it just feels terrifying. Idk what to do or what I want but I know my life sucks and I probably want surgery.
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>>8472549
no probably not. The horse thing would actually work though. not as good as estrofem but that's how we made estrogen before advanced synthezising methods.
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>>8472516
Already had SRS but I'm not certain anyone is interested on what I could say about it, so...
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>ywn share a warm glass of mare piss with your tgf in your post apocalyptic hideout
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who is suporn and why is he so talked about? is he the best srs surgeon in the world or something?
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>>8472560
Being full-time or still having your birth ID as the legal one aren't major issues. On the other hand, there's little point in starting discussions with a surgeon until you've secured the two referral letters you need.
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>>8472550
I hope he's super motivated after his vacation and gives me a pornstar vag :^)

>>8472565
Tell me everything
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i want a vagina i think it'd be really neat. sorry if this opinion is controversial in h,ere.
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>>8472568
He's definitely one of the very best. A bit overhyped here, though. He's quite a bit more expensive than other good Thai surgeons, has a long waiting list, a reputation for cold manner and his clinic isn't in Bangkok proper. Those were the main reasons I didn't pick him, really.
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>>8472574
Same desu, also money would be really neat, to get said vagina.
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>>8472576
cold manner? is he an asshole or something? what do vaginas made by him tend to look like?
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>>8472493
>>It is not going anywhere but at least I got my name and gender changed now.
you're from germany too, if i remember right? i've got a question if you don't mind? how much did you pay your gutachters? i talked to my shrink about the name change and it turns out he is often booked by the court to make evaluations for it. he said he takes 400 to 500 euro. then he said that because i don't have much money i could go to him give him 200 or so in cash and he would charge the court only 100 which would save me money i guess? he also told me the name of another gutachter who would do the same. does that sound suspicious? like i don't know how much they usually take so i don't know if he's trying to scam me here so i'd appreciate a second opinion.
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>>8472576
I'm most likely going to end up going to chett in like a bit over a year from (;-;). What were your experiences and did you do the perineum electro he recommends?
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>>8472516
so is this discord actually good for talking about srs?
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>>8472579
I didn't get a Rechnung yet so idk how much I'll have to pay.
The deal of your psych sounds suspicious tho. Like borderline illegal suspicious.
If you are poor you can fill out an additional formula and then the state pays for you but idk if that includes the Gutachten.
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>>8472572
Well, not sure there's much I can say that will really help since I'm not sure at all about how things are in Chonburi. So all of my advice will probably be useless.
Get permanent hair removal on your scrotum. Follicle scrapping works, but some hair can eventually regrow inside the labia and the opening of the vagina which won't be convenient to remove later. That's one downside compared to techniques derived from penile inversion.
You'll most likely have to go on a no residue diet for a while around surgery. Thai supermarkets carry pockets of fruit flavored jelly that work great for that.
Don't bother bringing anything but loose clothes. Cotton jersey isn't ideal, t-shirts will be really uncomfortable. Bring muslin blouses and skirts. Alternatively, get a salwar kameez or two if you're not fond of skirts. Great for that kind of climate.
If it's anything like me, you won't bleed much after surgery, which makes post-partum diapers or even thick pads overkill. Just have a couple packs of thin ones.
If you like tea, bring it with you. The Thai aren't tea drinkers and it's not easy to find good tea outside of the Jap shops in downtown Bangkok malls or the Chinese neighborhood.
Anything specific you'd like to know about?
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>>8472587
>Like borderline illegal suspicious.
oh, it definitely is illegal, he's trying to make tax free money. i'm worried that i get scammed and not the finanzamt though.
>If you are poor you can fill out an additional formula and then the state pays for you but idk if that includes the Gutachten.
i'm under 25 so my parents would have to pay for it. i'm dependent on them and don't have a bad relationship with them so i don't want to just show them a bill of 1.3k and say "have fun with it" though lol
>I didn't get a Rechnung yet so idk how much I'll have to pay.
ah, that sucks, thanks though.
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aren't you glad that your transition is going better than Christine-chan's?
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>>8472583
Nah, hadn't found an electro place at the time and he advised against laser. Retrospectively, I should have gotten laser because the dermatologist I asked was nonplussed at working in there even though she said it can be done.
Other than that, I don't have anything bad to say about his work. The staff was also really nice. I stayed in one of the Bangkok Rama bungalows. Comfier than a hotel room. Also, it's close to a large supermarket and a metro station, which makes it more convenient than the other hotel. Taxis are dirt cheap, though.

>>8472578
Not an asshole from what I heard but treating people more like clients than patients. Also seems to be a bit of a control freak. His results generally look very good.
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>>8472599
Has s/he found a boyfriend free girlfriend yet?
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>>8472602
the quest goes on
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Monday morning always comes too soon
Just left the school friday afternoon
Pens and notebooks papers everywhere
don't they have an app to clean my room?
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>>8472599
>tfw Chris-Chan looks better than you
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>>8472591
How is your healing going? Do you have granulation?
How was your flight back? Is it uncomfortable to sit that long after srs?
Did you have a lot of pain?
How much time did you need for dilation?

Suporn tells his patients to NOT get electro done so I'll trust him with that. He says if hair grows, then it will be in places where it can be removed after srs.
I'll look into the no residue diet.
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>>8472607
hugg
iktf ;_;
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>>8472607
fucking heck ambi you cannot be serious
I've seen you
chris chan does not look better than you
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>>8472591
>If you like tea, bring it with you. The Thai aren't tea drinkers and it's not easy to find good tea outside of the Jap shops in downtown Bangkok malls or the Chinese neighborhood.
i know literally nothing about thai cuisine, but that surprises me nonetheless

thought they would have been big into tea over there
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>>8472612
Sorry
I just view myself very negatively
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I miss her stinky feetsies...
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>>8472608
Healing was completely over in about three months. Outside at least. Sensitivity is still improving so I guess nerves are still healing.
I had priority treatment with a wheelchair and an attendant for the flight back, but that really wasn't needed. Sitting wasn't painful or uncomfortable after the urinary catheter and pouch were removed, so less than ten days after surgery.
I healed fast and it was really pain-free for me but ymmv.
He recommends three hour-long dilation sessions per day for a couple years but that's probably overkill. I dropped it to one every couple days around nine months in.
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>>8472619
>>8472610
yeah like
literally everyone here views themselves negatively
but chris-chan is on another level
never compare yourself to the legendary low
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>>8472621
>tfw you autists bullied someone into killing themselves.
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>>8472624
Eugenie's fine
she probably still even lurks
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>>8472624
>tfw you autists defend a rapist
moron
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>>8472627
like seriously
she did a bad thing and people called her out on it
she knows it was bad and rightfully feels shitty about it
why does anyone feel the need to defend her?
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>>8472627
>tfw rapists belong in jail, not dead
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>>8472594
I am surprised I didn't have to pay anything yet. Maybe they forgot me :^)

1k Euro isn't that much desu. That's like one month of work.

>>8472622
Wow you got really lucky with your healing I guess.
Is your sensitivity a lot worse? I hope mine gets worse because it annoys me rn desu. I'm probably the only person who hopes for that :D
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>>8472622
>He recommends three hour-long dilation sessions per day for a couple years but that's probably overkill. I dropped it to one every couple days around nine months in.
what is that
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Well maybe I'll get in with suporn, maybe not. But at least the clinic has my info now even if I have to wait and settle for his team. According to the clinic, they're all SRS surgeons that are just learning his technique. Seems legit. How to stop panic attack?
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>>8472634
3 hours of dicking or playing with yourself.
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>>8472631
>Maybe they forgot me :^)
lol good luck, that would be awesome
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>>8472631
Nah, sensitivity is pretty good by now. The annoying part is when it gets randomly very wet. I have to wear light pads to keep my underwear clean. I doubt you'll get permanently numb there. European surgeons might be a better choice if that's what you want.
Also, my healing is probably a matter of genetics. Very fast and clean healing is common on my mother's side.
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Why cant i fit this whole thing in my butt, this is only a diameter of 4 maybe 5 inches
I'm gonna be in alot of pain this weekend if i cant stretch my asshole out fast enough
Is it just not enough lube
I used alot
It hurts you guys i cant get it in
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>>8472634
Sticking stents in there to train the surrounding muscles into a looser position so the vaginal canal doesn't get crushed. Also helps maintaining depth during the healing process.
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>>8472641
are you losing your virginity? I thought you were gonna wait til we got married.
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>>8472636
I doubt he would have picked bad surgeons for his clinic. Keeping the good rep is essential for his income once he retires since he'll still own the place.
Also, the surgery itself is nowhere near as bad as it may sound. No need to be scared about it.
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>>8472640
I heard with Suporn you can tell him your priorities of depth looks and sensation. I'll simply put sensation as least important :p also >>8472642
WHY ARENT THEY COLORED
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>>8472630
Is this a real opinion? I think where proof exists of rape, rapists deserves public execution. It's not an accident to rape someone (unless it's statutory and that's a prison industrial complex meme).

>>8472640
How the fuck do I stop being horrified of SRS when I'm actually equally or more horrified of my current situation? Like I like girls, and I keep telling myself the next one I sleep with will fix all these feelings....it has not worked yet. And now I'm in this grimy situation using a girl as a cum dumpster. I have to straight up tell her we can't fuck anymore, because I literally feel like a rapist because of cum and stuff. "protection" doesn't really change the situation or dysphoric feelings either, it just makes me disgusted to be alive. Any way I look at it, male sex is awful...i need to find a cute girl who fucking washes her self enough to go down on her....being ugly sucks lol.
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>>8472643
:*)
Too late
I'm sorry
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>>8472651
wow rude
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>>8472655
Dw, people putting objects in me doesn't count as real sex,only body parts count.
, get ur fingers ready bucko
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>>8472648
Honestly, if you're not planning on getting het sex, looks are probably the most important. And the Thai are pretty good at it. I clearly said depth was the least of my worries and I still ended up with 7", 3" more than what European surgeons usually achieve... I have lost a bit since I haven't stuck to the dilation schedule but it doesn't matter to me.
Also, why should stents be colored? They're smooth acrylate. Scratch resistant, slide in easily and convenient to thoroughly disinfect. Medical devices, not textured sex toys.
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>>8472649
Well, SRS will certainly reduce your genital dysphoria and help you get rid of the unhealthy situation you're in regarding sex. Sex won't "fix" you. It never fixes anything. That's a patriarchal myth.
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>>8472658
Do gerbils count?
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>>8472663
No, it won't fix shit, but I need it in my life. Some people claim to be asexual. I'm not like that :/ and right now I'm about as fulfilled as asking for vanilla with extra sprinkles and getting 2girls1cupped
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>>8472279
>mtfg srs edition
>rich spoiled brats with tens of thousands of dollars to get a flakey stink hole thats essentially an open wound
>still want srs eventhough its totally a shitty option
>will never afford the astronomical price it costs
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>>8472660
I plan on getting her sex.
I wish I could tell him specifically how I want it too look, I don't want to end up with a huge vagina that leaves a bigger bulge than my thing rn :D

Depth is my main reason for Thai srs. I heard of people who end up with less than 10 cm in Europe. Imagine having sex with a guy and he can only put 2/3 to 1/2 of his thing in. Super embarrassing.

I think Suporns stents are colored. The biggest one is black obviously :^)
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>>8472667
Why the fuck don't you stop pretending you're stupid and get a job learning something niche? I'm stealing zhean's idea of voice coaching. Literally do that. Then buy bitcoin. By the time you're off the wait list for SRS, you'll have enough capital to easily invest in yourself. That's what I'm doing plus a semesters worth of saved cash, and a donation from grandmother to cover travel expenses. Maybe in 2 years I find I burn up off the list, but until then I'm assuming I'll have more than enough.
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>>8472623
proof that I'm at least AS bad looking
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>>8472658
locked and loaded bucko
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>>8472675
LITERALLY just get laser on your upper lip
that's the only thing holding you back
do that and you'll look like a cis ex of mine.

and at least your hairline isn't so far back it's practically time traveling
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>>8472674
>donation from grandmother
See, spoiled
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>>8472675
>new chris-chan video 4 days ago
>barb begging for money AGAIN
>looks sickly and so demented that she's barely sentient
Just let her die already. Let them both die. They're in pain.
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>>8472682
>Kayla calling someone else spoiled
Holy fuck lmaeoo
Bitch all of your wealth comes from your 4/10 boyfriend you dumb ex-skinhead.
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>>8472673
Honestly, once the swelling subsided, I ended up with a nice looking innie with a clit small enough to fit under the hood at rest. The vulva is big enough to get a camel toe in tight clothes but not abnormally large. No defined fourchette but dilation would ruin that so if you want one, that's touch-up territory, I guess.
The only issues are a slightly visible scar on the inner labia and the hair regrowth. The latter can be fixed.
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I want a cute girlfriend to cuddle and watch movies with please
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>>8472690
I want a bf to take me to movies and dinners and buy clothes for me :>
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>>8472682
You know I funded mine with a personal loan plus some savings. With a stable job, you should be able to do that too.
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>>8472682
Kayla, nothing makes my Jewish heritage worth it. But at least the kike side is going to pay reporation for mutilating me, indoctrinating me, and basically ruining my entire fucking life to point.


>>8472695
What'd you pay?


If I hired you to day manage my crazy brain at 20 an hour, we'd probably have successful business inside of a year.

Idk if I can pay you for surgery, but we could start a business.

>>8472688
Seems like work though.


>>8472690
Same and not one with a penis.

>>8472689
But does it work?
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>>8472690
I want a roommate to go to the opera with and work on creative projects.
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>>8472696
This message got botched. It's supposed to read the entire first half to Kayla, but it mixed with a CFH response
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>>8472697
wow aren't you better than everyone else
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I love girls so much
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>>8472701
she's just french, that's normal for them

they go to the opera and do art
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>>8472696
I'm barred from any kind of over the table work, being an officer on medical leave...
Total budget for the trip was 16 k€ for two people. 10k for SRS proper, 3k for the lip lift and trachea shave I also got. The rest was plane tickets, bungalow rental and everyday spending.
If by does it work you mean is it sensitive enough for sex and self-lubricating, I can only say probably well enough. Haven't had sex and not planning to.
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Kys, all of you. You will never look cis.
Especially you Kayla you repressed transbian fuck, you look like a one way donkeyshit.
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I want a cute girl to kiss me
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>>8472708
I love you too.
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>>8472681
Can't afford laser ;_;

Brb selling myself on the street...
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>>8472689
I'm jealous. I CANT WAIT WAA
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>>8472708
Help me please with kms, I just want the pain to end >.<
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>>8472713
your financial situation won't always be terrible

don't ever turn to prostitution it's a terrible idea
I sold nudes to some idiots on the internet once and it so isn't worth it

>>8472708
hi kayla
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>>8472717
Just sell pics of yourself where they can't see your face. Chasers are dumb and will buy anything, probably even pics of your feet.
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>>8472718
how do you sell nudes
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>>8472704
I want a screen writer roommate like Aziz anzari and a cute Asian girl to bang me and take mdma with and a musician, preferably female to collaborate with.


>>8472705
The job offer was directed to Kayla, sorry :P

And yeah, I just put in the suporn paperwork, we'll see what happens. And I mean is it orgasmable. Does it hurt or leak or anything weird?
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>>8472718
tfw actually did send really many feet pics to one weirdo on kik for free just to get attention...whew :/
he still messages me questioningly "Godess?" sometimes -.-
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>>8472660
>>8472673
speaking of depth. i went to frau krege in essen and she said it would be about 12 to 14cm deep if there aren't any complications. they said no one complained yet or that there are any issues with sex with that depth but it does sound like very little, doesn't it?
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>>8472723
iktf
i used to send porn to creepy guys because I hated myself and wanted to be useful for something even if its just getting someone off
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Kara is the cutest
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>tfw /no motivation/
feels empty, man
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which trip is the gayest
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If looks don't matter, and guys dicks don't matter, who is the best surgeon for like feeling and working vagina?
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>>8472729
All of them desu, they're pretty gay.
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>>8472721
Doesn't hurt or leak anything other than normal juices. You'll have to use lactic acid gel at first to get a balanced flora. It's definitely orgasmable but I don't get pleasure from that. That's a general brain issue of mine, though, not one related to the peripheral nerves, those work as intended even though they heal and reconnect slower than the skin parts.
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>>8472733
uwu
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>>8472724
I think 14 - 15 cm is average penis size in Germany so shouldn't be a problem depending on the partner but if you have a slight above average guy I can imagine some problems.
If you aren't into guys it doesn't matter anyway so idk.
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>>8472724
That sounds a bit shallow but I'm not the best person to ask about practical sex, really. But yeah, penile inversion as done in Europe isn't good if you want depth. Also leads to a less realistic vulva since the penile skin is the most appropriate for that.
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>>8472744
Honestly, cis vaginas are more elastic but too long dicks still hit the cervix which is really far from pleasant from what I've heard from friends. So guys with dicks like that are probably used to causing pain.
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>>8472745
Are there any plus sides to inversion vs whatever other options there are?
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>>8472738
OwO
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>>8472751
Well, I get a Neo vagina with greater depth, without regular bleeding and without the ability to get pregnant.
So basically a much better version (according to my fellow student who's always annoyed of his gfs strawberry week)
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>>8472752
Shorter surgery, so less risks for patients in poor general health and that's about all. Pretty important point for fifty years olds and the morbidly obese, not really for most people here.
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Kayla is a failiure in life
>manlet bf
>repressed transbian
>no one thinks highly of her here besides her dumb boyfriend
>no one likes her
Kys
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>>8472770

shut up kayla no one asked you
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>>8472770
there's nothing wrong with being a transbian
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stinky swamp trannies
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>>8472766
Idk if that's a real advantage because you have two surgeries instead.
Isn't that bad for unhealthy people too?
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>>8472778
Less than seven hours of anesthesia and immobility, I suppose.
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Are you an aspergirl?
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>>8472727
N-No you!
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>>8472782
Nah. I fit most of the second column, but that's because of an absurdly high IQ. As much of an issue, but separate from the autism spectrum.
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>>8472786
>absurdly high IQ
holy shit get over yourself
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>>8472787
It's more of a curse than a boon and not something I'm proud of. I rarely mention it but it's something glaring enough that people I spend time around just notice on their own.
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i'm fucking terrified of losing her, mtfg
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>>8472784
>>
Tfw HRT arriving soon C:
Also I have a bunch of stuff I need to fill in before my next tavistock appt aaa
So many questions on the form/questionnaire thingies
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>Get home
>Want to get some groceries
>See a man
>"Do you have a minute?"
>Know this man because a few weeks ago he talked about God to me and he probably doesn't remember me
>Think to myself "this is the perfect oppertunity to be a comedian! I'll tell him I pray to Mecca every day or tell a good Jesus joke!"
>Say politely no and walk away

There goes my career as an entertainer
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>>8472812
Only took like a year :p
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>>8472823
Y-yeah >_<
I hope I haven't left it too late :c
I don't want to have a man body forever ._.
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>>8472818
some jehovah's witnesses started following me on their bikes yesterday asking me if they could spread their faith to me an I told them my cousin was a sergeant (not even a lie) and they left me alone
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how late is too late to transition
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>>8472818
I'm wearing a black abaya to escape the heat a bit and a Kali yantra pendant. I doubt Jesus freaks would bother talking to me.
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>>8472828
any time after birth is too late
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dude lmao i feel so horrible right now i almost started just crying in the middle of my workplace
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>>8472827
>started following me on their bikes yesterday
Isn't that considered stalking though? Or harassment or whatever English term there is for that

>>8472829
Kek that's actually not a bad idea
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>>8472833
well it's kind of like when people stop you in the street to try to sell you something
and this street was practically deserted and there were two of them so I guess they felt confident in following after me
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>>8472835
Damn that sucks regardless, it's also kind of creepy.
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Estrogen magick
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>>8472261
You sound awfully upset
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>>8472782
This list is so fucking stupid.
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>>8472882
>usually a little more expressive in face and gesture than male counterparts.

how tf is that Aspergers?
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>>8472832
why
>>8472829
15
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>>8472675
Chris Chan looks so dead on the inside, it's actually quite depressing.
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>>8472675
holy shit wow, chris chan passes better than 90% of the girls here who take her for a point of reference of the ugliest non passing hon ever.
>mfw
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lmao what the fuck it uppppppp it's early af
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>>8472895
15?

>>8472901
>90%
Now you're just being mean.
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>>8472906
this is the best anime picture ever posted in /mtfg/
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>>8472902
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>>8472902
Stop posting food, I'm trying to lose weight.
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>>8472908
should we go 5% up or 5% down
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after 5 laser appointments like 60% of my facial hair is still there

am i wasting my time and money or do i just need to be patient?
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>>8472895
>why
basically because everything
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7wobIr0eQ4

My dysphoria is so bad I can't even play vidya without this triggering me

>0:35
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>>8472911
>>8472902
They are cute ^^
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>>8472962
^^
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Not sure if should go to bed or not...
I mean, I need sleep, yes, but I'm not tired right now, and I've not even been awake 12 hours.
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I'm aware this might not be the appropriate place but I'll ask anyway.

A great friend of mine is a MTF trans. She's been on hormone therapy for well over 2 years now and had a boob job done. She actually looks amazing and can certainly pass (in my opinion of course).

The thing is, and don't get me wrong here, she's considering sexual reassignment surgery. I'm really scared she'll regret it. Is it really worth it? Can you educate me on why, or why not she should do it?

Thanks in advance.
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I am a hon, nobody wants to be friends with a hon with no future

>>8472599
chris-chan looks better than I ever will
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>>8473017
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>>8472936
I had a similar result so just went with electolysis to finish up the other half that laser didn't get.
>>
imagine being mentally ill
>>
Hey
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>>8473036
>imagine

no need to
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>>8473017
I would be hon-friends together with you if I lived nearby ;_;
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>>8473017
Did you get on a diet and working out? your weight is the main thing that is holding you down, you'd look 100x better if you took care of yourself
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>>8473057
literally this lmao
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What does love feel like?
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>>8473075

Like everything's okay as long as you're with them. Like you're willing to go to any length, bear any burden, if it's with them, and with a single word, they can banish all the shadows in your life.

Like things are right. Complete, and all you need is them.

Until it's gone.
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>>8473075
really good at first and then really bad
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>>8473090
this kinda
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>>8473084
that's still how i feel after they betrayed and ruined my life, it's nice being a pathetic loser ://////////
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>>8473066
I'm back on keto, I disagree that all my problems will be solved with weight loss
the only problem it is going to solve is the fact I am no longer going to be obese
my endomorph giant man frame and hands, giant shoulders, no hips, ugly face, ruined skin, man ears, long philtrum, bald hairline, male genitals, stupidity and hopelessness will all remain
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>>8472599
>tfw worse than chris chan
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tfw severely mentally ill
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>>8473021
thanks i think that's what i'll do
also omg everyone chill and love yourself okay

bye
>>
mommy
mommy
mommy mommy
mommy
mommy mommy
mommy mommy mommy
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>>8472998
if you want to suck her dick that bad just tell her
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b a d
o m e n
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to those of you who pass, how long on hrt did it take you??
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>>8472383
*acres
I hope that was a typo, writing teacher ;)
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>>8473169
almost two years on estrogen and 3 on blockers, no passing in sight.
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>>8472002
>>8472188
Uh ohhh
Spaghetti-oooo
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>>8473205
desu i would like to say i called this but i was mostly joking when i first started telling them to transition
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>>8473152
d a d d y
d a d d y
d a d d y d a d d y
d a d d y
d a d d y d a d d y
d a d d y d a d d y d a d d y
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how can i tell what my sexuality is when i have had 0 sexual or romantic experiences with men or women
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>>8473227
Same desu
Wow, this place really eats people alive don't it

>>8473243
Get laid, report back
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>>8473241
hi daddy
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>>8473246
I need to read Elanna's Guide to Getting Laid. Do they still sell it in paperback?
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>>8473248
hihi
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>>8473254
>thinking I know how to get laid
It just sort of happens to me but it hasn't happened in like half a year and infrequently in the year before
I did write the guide to braaps though
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>>8473243
If you're asking this in /mtfg/ it's 99% likely you're AGP.
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>>8473246
>Same desu
idk honestly i was half serious since the 'i just randomly came here and randomly saw ur pic' is a pretty lame story imo. seems like you are already kinda friends with them tho and seems you are helping them figure stuff out which is probably best situation for them desu

>Get laid, report back
what do i do if i have no friends and don't want to hookup or go to bars because scared

both of those posts were me sorry
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>>8473257
hru today
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>tfw the out of opiates sadness comes
how do i not feel horrible and like a compete hon, despite being one?
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I bet diaperfag is a hon
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>>8473262
Hmm. Must've been thinking of Elanna's Guide to Pro Braaps.
>Tfw still deathly afraid of sex.
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Why is my ballsack so droopy?
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>>8473262
was kinda sad and sick but im good now and im going to get my temp driving permit today so i can go vroom vroom
>>8473276
nah
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>>8473276
i believe she is cute but i wish she wouldn't make bragging and mocking posts it makes me feel bad
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>>8473265
I mean I thought it was a bit of a lame story too, either they were chasing or curious imo the odds of them randomly stumbling in here and seeing my picture are hella low.
We mostly communicate in banter and memes desu but I'm assuming we'll stay in touch when I finish at the store. I don't know how serious they are or if they're on multiple levels of meme right now, but if they're actually questioning yeah I guess they know who they can talk to.

Also I'm not sure I never did bars and hookups and always had at least a handful of friends that could lead to relationships but my best advice is to try dating and see who you click with. A lot of people seem to have good luck with stuff like OkCupid.
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>>8473246
I was eaten alive by life and came here and found a safe haven from all the insanity of real life.
>>
>>8473282
>>8473268
oops clicked wrong post >O<
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>>8473262
>It just sort of happens to me
I see how it is
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>>8473282
Then post pic then hon
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>>8473265
Hookup anyway.
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>>8473292
W-what do you mean

>>8473286
>this place
>safe haven
This is one of the craziest places on the internet

>>8473279
Eat eggs and fiber for the best braaps
Also I thought you had a sex life at one point
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>>8473304
I didn't. It was me doing things to her. That's pretty much been all my relationships.
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>>8473293
dont want my face associated with diapers desu
i posted it anon and people said i passed and looked good c.c
you could probably find it if you search hard enough for stuff i would say
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>>8473254
>be desperate
>have low standards
>hook up with other thirsty/low standards peeps
>drugs/alco to remove inhibition
>more drugs/alco to get over regrets later

there
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>>8473325
I'm not horribly desperate or have low standards. I don't drink anymore due to an incident. And I got off drugs last year. Not going back there.
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>>8473304
>W-what do you mean
I'm going to show you what i mean soon enough desu.

>This is one of the craziest places on the internet
And yet i met you <3 what time are you dropping acid? Did you go for your bike ride yet?
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>>8473325
This guide doesn't seem like it was written by me

>>8473320
I mean that probably feeds back into the anxiety about it come to think of it
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>>8473282
thats good. driving is pretty easy actually you just need to practice a bit and get used to it
>>8473285
i guess the main issue is i feel like i have nothing to bring to a relationship. also i don't actually really want sex i want like a person i love and then sex would come after that if that makes sense. idk sorry
>>8473286
eat me alive okay im lonely
>>8473294
i don't really want to + i keep seeing stories about transwomen getting attacked and assaulted and its really turning me off like even going in public
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>>8473321
I doubt you did
Nice try though hon :)
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>>8473304
this place is p nice compared to real life. there are no sociopaths, psychopaths, pyromaniacs, alcoholics, druggied etc you have to deal with here or at least less of them. also it's more normal here than other parts of the internet I go to aside from the obvious normie stuff like ebay. like you can actually have a normal conversation here sometimes.
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>>8473338
It might. Maybe I just haven't found the right person to be truly intimate with yet.
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>>8473281
This was a serious question pls respond
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>>8473351
it is warm
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>>8473337
W-what did she mean by this?

I ended up sleeping in and missing my window to catch up on some sleep, I'm probably going to be dropping two tabs in about an hour
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>>8473340
>driving is pretty easy
tfw girl brain makes me terrible driver
I could press the wrong pedal when anxious
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>>8473340
I'm not into cannibalism.
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>>8473356
trust me its super easy
>>8473357
that was supposed to be sexual innuendo not cannibalism you goof
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>>8473349
That would be a big part of it yeah

>>8473348
>there are no sociopaths, psychopaths, pyromaniacs, alcoholics, druggies
Damn, are we reading the same thread? This is like a haven for mental illness.
Granted, people here are the friendly kind of mentally ill generally but on average I'd say most normies are downright sane compared to here

>>8473356
>girl brain
Maybe ur just dumb lol
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>>8473354
>, I'm probably going to be dropping two tabs in about an hour
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Druggie.

>W-what did she mean by this?
Im going to make sure the next time you have sex is a lot better than previous time so you dont feel like it "just happened" desu.
>>
>>8473365
most people are friendly except for like the Anon(s??) who always find someone to attack and make things up about. i think they might be the same person who is always here to defend rapists and that kind of stuff but im not sure
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>>8473348
>alchoholics
>druggies
uhhhhhhhhhhh, where do you think you are?
t. druggie
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>>8473348
>there are no sociopaths, psychopaths, pyromaniacs, alcoholics, druggie
Was this a serious post? Im literally talking to 2 sociopaths who post here infrequntly right now at this moment. Had to explain to Piety i would rather cut my dick off than fuck her.
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>>8473365
dont be jelly, male-brain autist, at least you can be a good driver
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>>8473365
yeah that's more what I mean they are more friendly mentally ill not the kind who is like "yeah of course we are gonna burn the table now" or "hey do you wanna come with me later and piss on this guy? he will pay us for it"
>>8473362
I'm not really into sex tho so I thought you meant it like you want to die.
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>>8473367
I mean it wasn't a statement on the quality of sex I've always enjoyed it it's just that like, I keep on getting laid due to random circumstance.
I look forward to what you have planned though

>>8473376
Half the aggressive anons are trips dropping trip, although I think that's less a thing these days. Some of them make it reaaaally obvious though

>>8473391
Damn I've never met that kind of crazy
Kind of want to just to say I have

>>8473387
I suck at driving what are you even talking about lmao
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future
scary
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>>8473391
well im not really into sex either and i kinda want to die but i was mostly just trying to make conversation by making inappropriate jokes
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love is nice feel
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>>8473387
why do you always have to be mean like this
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>>8473394
>I look forward to what you have planned though
Elbow touching. Hand holding. We might even get into some braaps
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Carth gave me a reason to detrans.
Thanks carth
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where do i find a boy/girl friend pls
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>>8473377
>>8473385
it's more about the level of it try calming down a psychopath nazi who just found out his mom is jewish or a guy who is high, drunk and on acid.
>>8473394
it's just everywhere here. like this guy down the street accidently almost burned down his home, tried to fuck over his house insurance saying it was the owners fault because she didn't install a fire warning system and now his 14 year old son who is always drunk attacked the owner of home because of that.
>>8473398
idk if anything is inapropriate for me anymore.
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>>8473423
Dont start by asking them "when are you going to fuck me"
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>>8473414
good old carth haha funny boy
>>8473414
d i a p er braaps?
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Question: I like to fap because of the orgasmic release I have but afterwards it leaves me feeling disgusting and sad
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>>8473420
>>8473429
aaaa wow 2 wrong posts >o<<<<<<<<
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>>8473430
Am I really trans or what?
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>>8473430
same but what's your question?
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>>8473423
hmmm, my method was find qt on r9k and do a lot of 4-fa the first time you talk to him.
werks on my machine :^)
>>8473425
i guess.. i'm not the most shining example of stability tho desu. i think i'm somewhere closer to whoever that guy is.
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>>8473432
idk probably that doesnt disqualify you or whatever
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>>8473425
God damn it sounds like you live in a wild area of town

>>8473414
H-hot
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>>8473428
what did she mean by this

>>8473435
i meant a real one not a orbiter i have enough of those already

also anyone know how to feel love?
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>>8473420
carth?
what was the reason?
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>>8473385
>Had to explain to Piety i would rather cut my dick off than fuck her.
that's not saying much when it comes from a trans girl lol
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>>8473461
Carth is a chaser here. Very muscular handsome guy.
He kept shutting on me no matter how much work I put into my transition
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>>8473454
>what did she mean by this
You know exactly what i mean missie. Also i dont think you are capable of feeling love desu. You might learn how to pretend really well but I dont know if you can ever truly care about others. I would be surprised at least
>>8473449
>H-hot
You're really cute btw. Since i havent told you in a few hours.
.
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>>8473435
idk this guy takes it too far he records all the phone calls he gets, has a gf but cheats on her all the time by going to gay orgies and he thinks the nsa is on his ass because he is jew and thinks all jews make plots behind closed doors against white people.
>>8473449
it really shouldn't be like that it's a small 25k town but immigrant gangs roam the streets asking everybody if they want to buy dope another guy was catched last year with a pound of coke and 5kg weed. you can hear the ambulance sirens almost all day too.
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>>8473454
that's what i meant!
i mean, like my bf just would just nope after he was asked to do something orbiter like from what i know
>>8473462
kek, desu i'd rather do that than most everything, but in the xd axewound scar is all srs is way.
that reminds me that american srs is my only option and that i'll never be a real girl
>ywn be a qt cis grill
>>8473477
hmmm, he's probs a bit further gone than me.
where does a hon that is getting mmore days where she feels like she passes, but is pretty sure it's just delusion go?
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>>8473483
brassard and one other american surgeon who i don't remember rn are top tier tho
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>>8473483
>but in the xd axewound scar is all srs is way.
what?
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>>8473470
unless he did it somewhere else, the only people he destroyed were prehrt people in the pass thread :<
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>>8473483
>reminds me that american srs
is it really that shit?
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>>8473489
isn't brassard only canada
>>8473490
like the all you do is chop it of and then there is just a wound meme.

>>8473493
honestly, probably not. i just think i'm gonna have 0 depth desu
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>>8473477
Damn what the fuck where do you live?

>>8473474
You're pretty btw
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>>8473491
No
He has destroyed even those who are ugly and on hrt
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>>8473501
hes canadian but americans can still go to him
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>>8473507
it seems random who he chooses to reply to tho
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>>8473470
>bald dyel manlet
>handsome guy.

kekt
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>>8473511
i need to go thru insurance since i have a fuckton of hsa money and coverage of everyone i've checked save for meltzer.
i am broke af save for that.
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>>8473503
>You're pretty btw
DELETE THIS
What did she mean by this?
Really makes me think.
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>>8473477
>immigrant gangs roam the streets asking everybody if they want to buy dope
that doesn't sound too bad to be desu
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>>8473512
Ye, he did not reply to me, kinda happy about that :O
I don't get him at all, it just seems like he replies to these he want to fuck or something and then to a few he wants to tear down and be an asshole to just because ;_;
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carth is my father
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>>8473281
>>8473351

post a pic
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>>8473528
yeah, idk, i'm almost always the easiest target, but no replies ever
>tfw too fucked to even be seen as a srs post
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>>8473525
oh. i don't really know how that stuff works since im in canada. does that mean you didn't check meltzer yet or he's not covered?
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>>8473503
in a small town in south germany. it's mostly immigrants and refugees from 1945-2000 who live here so maybe that's why it's all gone to shit. you can get all the common drugs for a decent price here and bars full of old alcoholics who like to give drinks for free for anyone young who might come in because seeing a young person once a day probably was the best thing about their week.
>>8473527
they don't have the best stuff the homegrown stuff here is way better. also it's a bit rude to go to gas stations and shops and ask the employees there if they want to buy some.
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>>8473537
i didn't find anything saying he was, so i just assumed nope not at all.
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>>8473351
balls to heavy? eat cypro and they will shrink and skin will tighten
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facebook com/bbcthree/videos/1187560758021012/

with dyspraxia, ALL makeup looks like this
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>>8473567
hey robin
how are you
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>>8473526
It makes me think that you're really cute and I wanna kiss u

>>8473544
Damn
Yeah I can see why you would think this place is downright nice compared to the real world
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>>8473523
>bitter hon
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>>8473544
>n south germany. it's mostly immigrants and refugees
Im so glad i live in a part of canada not overrun by rapefugees and their sexual emergencies.

But if our cuck pm has anything to say about it even alberta and bc might not be safe forever :( Where do we go when even canada is overrun.

>>8473575
k-k-k-k-kiss?
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it doesn't matter how many times i have to deal with it, every time she leaves and goes back home and i know i won't see her for an entire month is just as painful as the last. i miss her so much.
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>>8473575
yeah and then mom is worried because I want to travel to big cities or because I text with people from the internet so I come here to talk to normal down to earth people for my standards. for me you are one of the few persons who has their shit together and an example to look up to.
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>>8473569
same as usual desu
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i want everyone to be nice and no one to be mean. thank you for reading my blog/manifesto. im gonna go die or something now idk
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>>8473595
actually it's very few arab refugees here only about 250 but if anything happens here we can deal with that ourself and have to the police doesn't do shit here. the sales for home protection like alarms and stuff skyrocketed and somebody burned down the refugeecamp here so they can't put many refugees here.
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my mommy said im a very handsome young man today
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Give it to me "straight"

Does she like me for the boy I am or the girl I look like ._.
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>>8473635
dont you get tired of posting the exact same shit every single day
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>>8473635
probably for the man you look like.
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>>8473595
Yeah it's that thing we do when my mouth ends up stuck to yours

>>8473599
I mean I don't think I have my shit together that much but I guess I have a direction that I'm going if nothing else.
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>>8473638
>>8473646
That smell of bitter hons in the morning
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>>8473635
probably one of those things were girls like boy butts if she really likes u as a boy
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>>8473646
P..probably

So she's not bi? I hope she's not, she seems to emphasize that I'm a man like I'm some insecure ftm.
>>8473638
No ^\^ hey let's talk about if elanna is gay or not for three years
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>>8473659
The elanna gay arc is over but you're still living as a beta male
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>>8473654
Sounds scary desu. Will you hold me tight?
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>>8473666
What's beta about me?
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>>8473666
your not gAY WHAT??
I GUEss cis tits pic didnt lie she really is a man...
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>>8473675
She looks like Chris charns prettier brother
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>>8473671
Yeah, I wouldn't want to make you too nervous

>>8473673
Mostly the everything

>>8473675
But I'm a massive faggot
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>>8473654
yeah you at least have a plan for your education and a general idea what you want in life that's more than most people I know. no one in my family went to uni only to craftsmen schools. so now I have to decide go study something (probably psychology) , go for a filming/directing career, go for music artist, sell crap to people (all kinds of business stuff like stock market, a little shop or sell drugs) or become a photographer. I just have too much ideas but I'm kinda on the same skill level for every of those ideas.
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>>8473635
fucking thot
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>>8473680
Well I'm just trying to gauge if you had reasoning behind it, because you Come off as a little histrionic going in front of a bunch of people with your partner and spending weeks writing erotic lit in front of them.
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>>8473680
i thought u said your gay arc is over...
so your a boy that likes boys...
are you still confused about your sexuality what is going on in that head
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>>8473659
>like I'm some insecure ftm
are you not?
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boop.
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>>8473687
What's wrong with being histrionic, you make it look like an art form.

>>8473690
No, I've settled on "definitely not straight girl"

>>8473681
I mean you will probably remain in that sort of middle ground until you pick one of those things to become deeply skilled at. Ime most people just pick a direction that seems right and go for it they don't need it to be the perfect fit.
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So, if a penis doesn't make a girl a boy, doesn't that logic go the other way? If someone lives as an aggressive sexual predator and a bully, but has had the surgery... wouldn't they still really be a man?
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Is it possible to have a transbian gf that isn't crazy? I know dysyphoria is a mental illness but why does every girl I date have to have extra shit like bpd or avpd or be bipolar or have mpd?
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>>8473707
Hell, even all the regular trans girls I've dated have been like this.
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>>8473704
so are you a boy or a girl
first you say your gay for a boy
but now your a girl that isnt straight that likes boys??????
>>8473707
yeah i dont know any trannies that dont have mental issues
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>>8473714
Why are they all like this lmfao? Starting to believe that transgenderism is a symptom of bigger issues.
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>>8473704
going to uni would be the safest bet because I can just do it the other things need some kind of take off and a bit luck. I'm sending out demo tapes soon to some labels and people so I will see how that will go on.
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>>8473707
I'm normal, maybe you just like exciting girls that try to make everything larger then life (which is a sign of mental illness)
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>>8473724
>I'm normal
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>>8473724
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im a crazy transbian
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>>8473714
I am a lesbian (male)
I am also very sane

>>8473723
It probably is the safest bet, the nice thing is demo tapes and the like are something you can do while in school and hoping for some luck.
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>>8473707
Yeah my trans gf isn't crazy at all
>>
I feel so ashamed of myself.
I'll never live a life true to myself because I am so consumed by what others think

I wish I was as brave as you ;-;
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>>8473722
>Starting to believe that transgenderism is a symptom of bigger issues.
No. gender dysphoria is an overwhelming and debilitating mental ilness that causes people a lot of pain. Sometimes that pain can cause them to develop personality disorders or other mental illnesses to cope. Like for instance its not uncommon for trans girls to have a dissociative disorder because their brain literally could not handle the dysphoria
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative_disorder

Also trans people are more likely to be treated like shit by parents/classmates etc etc which can also lead to problems.
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tfw she seems genuinely excited whenever you wake up
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>>8473744
>developing personality disorders

um?????????????????????????????????????
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>>8473738
Cut everyone out of your life apart from online friends who cannot harm you

Take pills and grow boobs and have better skin

Fuck everyone else because it's YOUR body/life, and if you feel like being a freak tranner will make you feel better, then that's YOUR business and no one else's.
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>>8473744
No one really thinks it's a mental illness
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>>8473747
Cluster B are the most common for trannies.
Antisocial PD, Borderline PD, Histrionic PD, Narcissistic PD
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>>8473749
is it ok if i do
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good morning mtfg! how r u doing?
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>>8473744
>tfw that wikipedia page is your biography
delet this now
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>>8473749
GID is a mental illness
Like, how is it not an illness, trannies can't even function without some sort of treatment
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>>8473734
yeah you are right but as long as I'm classified as mentally ill (depression) I get 1,5K a month. so the school starts in september but my first psych appointment is in july so I probably have to wait until next year to go to school because my treatment won't be over by september. we have long waiting lists for everything here. is canada worth a visit? my uncle has a house in BC where he spends his holidays once a year.
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>>8473749
3 days on this board and anyone with half a brain could tell you dysphoria is a mental ilness.
http://dsm.psychiatryonline.org/doi/abs/10.1176/appi.books.9780890425596.dsm14
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>>8473757
Horrible
>>
>reads thread

wow everyone is rly upset this mornin huh
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>>8473731
cool do you want to meet up and talk about marxist theories?
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>>8473763
Go to a psychologist that deals with trauma then imo. Dissociation is extremely brutal and will hamper you for the rest of your life unless you take steps to resolve it.
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>>8473757
not that great :(
everything just got scarier and i don't like scary stuff
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>>8473745
cute
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>>8473774
you are probably high and too chill to care about bullshit rn
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>>8473748
I did try
But when your mother cries because she's afraid people will spit on you, attack you or even kill you. It hurts to let that come to pass
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>>8473764
>>8473768
not in france it isn't. http://www.loc.gov/law/foreign-news/article/france-gender-identity-disorder-dropped-from-list-of-mental-illnesses/
i don't agree with it being classified as a mental illness either for reasons.
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>>8473753
[citation needed]
The most common in everyone is anxiety and depression, which is higher in trans people (and all LGBT people who are suppressed and attacked)

Cluster b is a large group and of course every population is going to have it

>>8473764
One of the VA docs that head the trans program over by SF sat for the vote and discussion, the reason they made it a mental disorder was for insurance and legal purposes, they were not at a consensus otherwise, and almost every international body is working on removing it,

It's a medical issue, but like if you took all the societal hate away and just handed people pills and said it was okay, the kids doing it wouldnhave no difference from cis girls (which has actually been proven in supportive environments with children living full time as their preferred gender)
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>>8473774
i made the mistake of looking in the mirror, so i've been posting since ;-;
>>8473777
i have, but whenever i'm with any family that isn't my brother or grandma, i don't remember most of it still lmao
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>>8473766
Wish I could get money for being broken.
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>>8473771
>>8473778

;_;
you gotta find a silver linin

>>8473782

i don't care about 4chan drama these days just in general honestly, high or not lol. like it doesn't fuckin matter at all.

>>8473787

>It's a medical issue, but like if you took all the societal hate away and just handed people pills and said it was okay, the kids doing it would have no difference from cis girls

i agree with this honestly. well like 95%. the girls would still have issues with dating, but who doesn't have issues dating people anyways?

>>8473790

ur beautiful
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>>8473796
In germany you get like 90% of your salary of the last 12 months if you get sick.
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I love when histrionic men mansplain to me about how they're smarter then doctors with ppl logic
>>
edie
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>>8473799
How?
I feel so fucking lost and scared
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>>8473787
>[citation needed]
Go make friends with trannies and it will become apparent desu. I dont think there has actually been a study on personality disorders and gender dyphoria but really, anyone who doesnt have autism who has spent enough time around a large group of them can figure it out pretty easily. Out of hundreds i know i think maybe 4 didnt have a glaring personality disorder.

>>8473786
>not in france it isn't.
France doesnt count as a country anymore desu. You let in too many rapefugees who want to make it a 3rd world shariah shithole because of white guilt.

It is a mental ilness and the only reason they changed it is because of pressure from trannies and liberals.
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>>8473799
You can't make people like penis or inverted penis, but yeah, if you aren't pretty you don't get dates, that's universal
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>>8473814
>go make friends

Where he fuck do you think you are mate
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>>8473799
yeah but weed definitly helped me with that :o
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>>8473802
sounds cool.

>>8473816
That sounds really shitty.
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>>8473814
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2016/02/24/peds.2015-3223

it's like i'm talking to /pol/. seriously thinking "rapefugees" and "liberal pressure" are arguments....
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>>8473799
It's hard atm, Edie :(
I'm unsure about just about everything
But I will try to fix stuff but at this point I'm not seeing light at the end of the tunnel and I can't see far into the future in that sense

Every day I hope the next day doesn't come because the future is scarier and more uncertain than ever before
>>
nim

>>8473808

it's ok to feel that way sometimes honestly. i think everyone does at some point. there tends to be a light even in your darkest hours tho.
as cheesy as that sounds lol

>>8473814

most trannies i know don't have personality disorders, they're just insecure as fuck and hurt because of their upbringing.
which is coming from someone with a diagnosed personality disorder who mainly has it because everyone else in my family does.

>>8473816

ye i'd agree with that for sure. i feel like so many younger transitioners are so pretty tho. like you never seen a fugly young t yknow?

>>8473822

yeah i'd agree wit that lool. weed completely separated my ego from a lot of aspects of my life. drugs will do dat.
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>>8473786
>>8473787
I believe it must remain classified as a mental illness lest it remove any obligation of the medical establishment to help us.
Transition is effectively a medical procedure, it is treatment.
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>>8473827
edie hru
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>>8473823
if you live in the EU you can just move here work a bit and then do it too.
>>
what is mitfug listening to?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXsWBMXorhM
>>8473796
same desu.
>tfw applying for disability would require talking to people and being sober
>tfw you probably wouldn't get it anyway
>>8473799
nah trust me i'm not at all lmao
>>8473827
idk about the young trans thing, there are some exceptions desu
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>>8473824
>"rapefugees"
Do you want me to start linking rape stats from european countries with high amounts of refugees? Because i can desu. I joke about being /pol/ and stuff but that is one thing that is undeniably true.

Also all your study says is that basically young transitioners show little signs of mental ilness after being on hormones for a while. But thats the point, we take hormone BECAUSE its a mental illness.

Its like saying diabetes isnt a real illness because we give them insulin. Its just nonsense desu.
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>>8473824
Just ignore her.

>>8473827
lol ive seen two early transitioners started at 16 and are now like 20 something both were fuck ugly.

>>8473834
But then id be in the EU.
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>>8473826

>the the future is scarier and more uncertain than ever before

honestly that feeling IS fucking scary, but it's ok to be scared in the sense that it's also like...really exciting.
like your future isn't certain, and that's kind of a great thing in it's own way. you can seriously be whoever you wanna be and do whatever you wanna do if you put your mind to it.
having no set future means you have limitless possibilities for your life even if it's not as easy.

>>8473833

i'm good! just eatin lunch rn and listenin to music. how are you doin nimmy?

>>8473838

everyone is beautiful in their own way even if they're not conventionally attractive tbqh.
i'm listenin to https://soundcloud.com/yungfijiwata/3am-flight

>>8473843

i've never seen an ugly early transitioner idk. maybe they hide or some shit tho idk
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>>8473831
Right same hope, because right now we're winning court cases to get access because of how it's written

if were still at the point we need to sue to get basic medical rights taken care of, we should keep the thing they are citing to win us health care
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>>8473827
yeah I got to the point where I can leave behind all thoughts and just do something like a "fuck it" switch in my brain.
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>>8473846
i woke up late and im eatin breakfast rn

i got milk on my hand
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>>8473848

ye it's a nice feel to be able to just step back from shit and be like ... ok wait a minute... this doesn't fuckin matter lmao

>>8473851

now when u say milk, you mean.............
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>>8473842
If you're going to link Sweden's rape statistics, they're literally only because they have a much more expansive definition of rape than most of the western world, and the increased statistics are a result of that.
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>>8473856
whole milky edie
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>>8473827
Ofc you don't, they pass, they'd look like a fugly young girl

Andddd if you're transitioning at 10-12 you're probably hyper feminine and are doing really really girly stuff like taking care of your appearance
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>>8473857
It wasnt going to be sweden and even if you take into account their definition, their rape rates have still been drastically increasing even AFTER their definition was changed.
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>>8473831
>>I believe it must remain classified as a mental illness lest it remove any obligation of the medical establishment to help us.
nah. it can be reclassified as a physical illness.
>>8473842
wtf? we aren't talking about rapefugees, are you braindead?
the study shows that the body is the issue and causes all the mental issues. if we extrapolate what you're saying then we must come to the conclusion that feeling comfortable with a female(-like) body or male in case of ftms is a mental illness. which would mean that every single other cis man and woman would be mentally ill but it just doesn't show because they get their treatment (hormones) from birth on. remember that the cause is actually thought to come from brain structures that are just similar to the opposite sex.
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>>8473858

you should drink soy milk nimmy

>>8473860

well i more meant the trans women who transitioned early but are really open about ittt yknow.
i'll talk all kinds of shit for fun about how i'm a man and we're all secretly homosexuals etc but in reality i can barely clock other trannies lol
like unless i see a super prominent brow bone i'm gonna assume ur cis. so i don't flatter myself by assuming i'd be able to clock any younger transitioner just by lookin at her.
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>>8473875

me
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>>8473869
>we aren't talking about rapefugees
I made a joke about rapefugees and france, calm down.
>causes all the mental issues
>the mental ilness
Thx for admitting it is.
>hen we must come to the conclusion that feeling comfortable with a female(-like) body or male in case of ftms is a mental illness. which would mean that every single other cis man and woman would be mentally ill

Um no? That's not what gender dysphoria is it all. Its feeling uncomfortable in your biological body. Am i being trolled here?
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>>8473872
why edie
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>>8473838
https://youtu.be/qZKCHBM0l4c
uwu
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>>8473880

because it's good for you nim and ppl always say soy is turning our men into girls so idk it sounds smart to me
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>>8473827
3 years into transition and I have nothing to show for it
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Lol amy detransitioned again for the millionth time
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>>8473878
>>Thx for admitting it is.
>a thing can cause mental issues
>therefore it's a mental illness
guess being ugly or a chestlet is also a mental illness now?
>Its feeling uncomfortable in your biological body
it's both. same thing really. we feel uncomfortable in our male bodies and feel comfortable with female ones. do you think cis women would be happy in a male body or what? it's really not hard to understand...
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>>8473894
its always weird when ppl say this cos like
it's not like detransitioning happens over night
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>>8473900
It easily can.
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>>8473885
but i had teriyaki shit like every day when i was a lil kid and im the most masc nigga on the planet
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Daily reminder that bisexuality isnt real and is the first ever tumblr meme sexuality.


Daily reminder that if you are a bisexual femboi you are actually a failed straight male using men to validate your insanity.

Daily reminder that you WILL in fact go back to women at some point or some other failed male tranny/femboi (same thing really)

Reminder that you are all killing yourselves testing out pills that couldnt cure cancer and NEGATIVE side effects were boob growth etc

Daily reminder that you are all using your bodies as guinea pigs to look like a freak of nature


Reminder that after 25 you will look like a used tampon thats been reused over and over and your skin is wrinkly amd not your chasers which are failed straights and pedophiles will want you

Reminder that your only hobby is dressing like a faggot online amd wavimg your tranny cock for any sort of validation since your parents never loved any of you...
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>>8473898
>do you think cis women would be happy in a male body or what?
No they would get gender dysphoria if they were in a male body. That's literally what it means to be FtM. What are you even trying to argue? You already admitted it was a mental illness after saying it wasn't before. Im bored of you desu.
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>>8473902
oh okay.
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>>8473889

wait what exactly did you think you'd have to show for it tho lol like it's not a job or something.
you're alive and working towards being the person you want to be. that's what you have to show for it.

>>8473894

eh

>>8473904

wait is teriyaki stuff made from soy??
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>>8473843
one of them is me right???????????????
>>8473846
what drugs can help me into seeing value ;-;
2c-b only works for a few months, and i have to hidden all my art when i'm on it. also i have to deal with the not cold computer visuals and 2c-e is rip in pepperoni for some reason.;-;
oh you shoud check this song out!
https://youtu.be/0IRcPk4LWdc
it's less hip hop, but i think you'll like it desu.
>>8473881
idk if you like post punk, but this has a p similar vibe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_XU-41Zf3s
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>>8473906
>FtM.
MtF*
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>>8473911
Except I worked hard for it but nothing has changed
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>>8473911
ye the base of teriyaki is soy
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>>8473909
anne i detransed for a minute there but im okay now
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>>8473869
>nah. it can be reclassified as a physical illness.
But then people might argue that it's not a physical illness because your body is fully functional, so then you'd run the risk of it being declassified from being an illness at all, so you'd be back to the problem of insurance companies not being required to cover it.
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>>8473915

idk i just smoke da dankest of weeds ;_;
this song sounds rly nice but i'm also falling asleep cause it's hella relaxing help me

>>8473918

what did you think was gonna change?

>>8473920

wow that explains a lot
and i've seen ur lips and jaw etc, that's a woman, Maury!!
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>>8473868
it's almost as if they have massive government organisations dedicated to increase the percentages of rapes that get reported
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>>8473928
I hope that you get killed you ugly hon.
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>>8473894
Isn't he like really masc? We should be encouraging repression for people who are no hopers.
Repgen gives them a community and ego boost. Mtfg makes them bottom of the barrel. Why drag them down?
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hi
I love you all.
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>>8473922
be careful
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>>8473944
You're ugly as fuck and you deserve die.
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>>8473928
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, idk my solution is to do whatever stimulants are around normally.....
listen to this?
https://youtu.be/lYeP8a_Y_0A
maybe the noises will make it less relaxing????
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>>8473928
My face, my body
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>>8473951
wtf why haven't you said that to me yet, anon
>>8473957
>tfw all you got from estrogen is measurements that don't match what you look like
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>>8473940
He's a twink-ish gay bottom
But if his happiness of being a girl isn't just autism, I think he should at least try a bit harder

But whatever
He flushed his pills so for all I care he can be Spartan again for a week
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>>8473951
Rude, please use your nice words even with people you do not like, thank you.
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>>8473934

cool lol

>>8473953

how does that work for you? i feel like whenever i've done any kind of stim i've been all anxious af ready to die lol
thiS SONG IS EVEN MORE RELAXING OMG LOL it sounds like the soundtrack to starbound and.......terraria maybe? idk

>>8473957

even if it did change more, you're always going to be you lol. i get the feeling that's more who you have the problem with.
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>>8473928
my jaw is like my worst feature tho lmao

so strong

lips are okay tho yeah :)
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>>8473953

STARBOUND AND NO MAN'S SKY THAT'S WHAT IT IS

>>8473972

strong jaws are hot af on women
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>>8473906
>No they would get gender dysphoria if they were in a male body. That's literally what it means to be FtM
i don't even know what your point is anymore. it's like you're deliberately trying to be dumb. i'm saying if you make gender dysphoria a mental illness then you are classifying every human being as mentally ill. every human being feels comfortable with looking like one sex and uncomfortable about looking like the other which is exactly what gender dysphoria is. it just doesn't show in most because they get their treatment (hormones) from birth on. trans people have the same structures as the opposite sex. it's the mismatch between body and brain structure. saying the brain is wrong is like saying the part of your body that is generally regarded as the part that holds your personality/yourself is unimportant compared to the part of your body that can be more or less completely altered without any direct effect on your personality.
>You already admitted it was a mental illness after saying it wasn't before. Im bored of you desu.
are you literally retarded?
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>>8473946
ok i was
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>>8473981
it's masculine!
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>>8473923
maybe. though the mismatch between body and brain sex can be regarded as a physical illness that needs treatment in form of aligning the body to the brain sex.
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>>8473971
idk it keeps me from dissociating completely, and i just focus on something..
4-fa was a nice intro to stims for me since mph was really uncomfortable the first time i did it.
also boofing maybe? i don't think roa can change effects, but the quick come up could help?
is this better? completely different tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOjWMiPktqw
>>8473981
ohhhhhhhh, there was probably some inspo from sakamoto
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>>8473982
>i'm saying if you make gender dysphoria a mental illness then you are classifying every human being as mentally ill.

Cis tits is right though, how the fuck would that make every human mentally ill? Most people do not have gender dysphoria, in fact the overwhelming majority of people in the world feel comfortable in the body they are born in.

You are a bad troll and should stop posting.
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>>8473971
If I didn't have such broad shoulders or narrow hips, I would be a lot happier.
My depression stems heavily from body Dysphoria
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>>8473987

beautiful women tend to have a mix of masculine and feminine attributes. it's literally science lol like androgyny is more attractive to human beings

>>8473997

maybeee, i def get the disassociation thing actually lol. and this song seems super hype idk i was almost kinda feeling the lowkey sleepy songs

>>8474001

i mean your dysphoria comes from a false idea of what women are supposed to be seeing as literally every model is an inverted triangle lol
you need therapy, not surgery or some other shit
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>>8473998
>how the fuck would that make every human mentally ill?
maybe try reading a little further?
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>>8473966
I hope you get raped and murdered
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just dropped acid ama
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>>8474009
it's all masculine edie!!
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>>8474001
iktf
>ywn have >40" hips
>>8474009
bleergh, i onny really know the two extremes for not skramz or noise
>>8474017
why can't i find 2c-e????
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>>8474017
u gonna pick it back up
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>>8474009
It's not about the idea of how women should look like, it's about how I wanna look like.
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>>8474010
>very human being feels comfortable with looking like one sex and uncomfortable about looking like the other which is exactly what gender dysphoria is

That is not what gender dysphoria is at all though. Its feeling uncomfortable with YOUR bodies gender. How high are you right now?
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I got an interview for the carpentry apprenticeship and Im like freaking out holy crap Im so excited but so nervous how do I not fuck up the interview? The way I see it the only issue is Im gonna have to tell them I have no work experience, but Im far more worried about fucking up in some stupid way just because its been years since Ive even thought about the possibility of an interview. I am way too blazed to take in this news.
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>>8474017
How do you feel.
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>>8474025
>Its feeling uncomfortable with YOUR bodies gender
nah. cis men get gender dysphoria when they get boobs. do you think if you give cis women test to the point where they look like men they wouldn't develop gender dysphoria?
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>>8474022
Idk probably because you need to buy it online like no street level dealer is going to have it

>>8474023
Oh it's gonna get elevated

>>8474033
Nervous, my last trip was pretty nightmarish so I'm starting low
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>>8473991
I don't disagree, but unfortunately it would be a lot harder to convince conservative policymakers of that than to just be like "it's a mental illness lol"
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>>8474020

NO IT'S NOT NIMMY

>>8474022

; 3;

>>8474024

therapy
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>should be practicing voice
>shit posting in collaboration with cis tits and 2 anons bickering about literally shit no one in the real outside world gives a fuck about


Holy shit take it to reddit.
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>>8474030
Find interview questions online
Formulate answers for the typical kind of hard questions ("tell me about yourself", "why do you want to be a carpenter/work here")
Go into the interview feeling relaxed and prepared

Congratulations btw
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>>8474041
but i can't find it online ;-;
everything is 2c-b from what i can see
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>>8474039
>do you think if you give cis women test to the point where they look like men they wouldn't develop gender dysphoria?
Ok but that is not what we are arguing and you are just moving goalposts at this point. Yes, they would get dysphoria. But most have not have that happen to them and therefore they DO NOT HAVE DYSPHORIA. And if it did happen, it would be about something on THEIR body. Shes right though, you aren't worth trying to argue with.
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>>8474050
Are you searching in phenethalyamines or dissociatives? Im pretty sure it's the former, and not in the same category as say LSI or LSD
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>>8474050
Look on the normal internet on rc vendors, not the darknet
It's still basically legal in most places so you need to get it through those channels, people that deal in scheduled substances don't have a lot of interest in it yet.
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>>8474044
omg don't yell ;-;
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>>8474041
>Nervous, my last trip was pretty nightmarish so I'm starting low
:( pls be careful. You said you told cath right
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I was going to take out my hatred on you all but elannas tripping so im going to do something else now.
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So say theoretically I'm living as a boy, and theoretically dating a straight girl

What would the consequences of using my new insurance to get a free breast aug to make my breasts larger be
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should i practice voice today or go back to sleep even though i only woke up an hour ago
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>>8474044
o maybe this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQsaPVW3vxY
>>8474058
i'm searching under psychs desu
2c-b, rc, and other
>>8474061
blerghgghhghghgh i am spooked of clearnet vendors
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>>8474061
I don't care for this advice. Get it with Monroe or ETH through DNM/TOR and do so effortlessly instead of getting Chinese clearnet scammed on some 2C-BUNK or NBOME FBI sting. There is no reason to purchase anything clearnet, legal or not, without shopping first the TOR bazars.
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>>8474069
VOICE. get on vc with me and lets practice
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IT IS SO FUCKING HOT

KILL THE SUN
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hey cool my temples are filling in a bit

it can't be the finasteride cuz i just started it like three days ago but let's hope it speeds it up!
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>>8474063
Of course, she is aware and is tripsitting.
I also have plans for later today to watch a movie with my friend

>>8474072
>>8474074
If it's illegal use the darknet
If it's legal use the clearnet
I have had no issues with clearnet venders
Granted I bought years back during that mephedrone craze so there was a lot more options
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>>8474075
why would i get on vc
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>>8474042
yeah, i know. it just sucks that it's classified as a mental illness because of the very bad social stigma and it kinda misrepresents it but it's probably for the best for now. i'm not sure if france still has it covered.
>>8474055
it is exactly what i'm arguing, god, how dense are you?
>But most have not have that happen to them and therefore they DO NOT HAVE DYSPHORIA.
if it is classified a mental illness to feel uncomfortable about one sex and comfortable about the other then every person on earth has it wether the symptoms show or not. it's retarded to say every person has a mental illness though. rather it's a mismatch between the body and the brain which can cause mental issues but is a physical illness because the body is the issue. the body is the issue because the brain is what makes and holds your personality, the body is just the vessel to keep it alive and carry it around. so it's dumb to say your brain is wrong with feeling uncomfortable about certain parts of your body.
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>>8474044
Do you tell the girls in your group who say the same thing that they need therapy?
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>>8474082
i find its easier to practice when actually conversing with other people desu.

>>8474081
>I also have plans for later today to watch a movie with my friend
yeah the one from calgary right?
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>>8472667

Just do sexwork like the rest of the young transitioners. Yes, it hurts. But if you're trans you will do what you need to do. I wouldn't expect someone like you to know how to work though considering you're a spoiled brat thanks to your mother.

t. /cd/
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>>8474088
but that'll just make me feel bad
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>>8474074
Wait I want to say there used to be a site that just documented clearnet vendors years ago
I want to say it was called scamornot or legitornot or something like that.
Does that still exist?

>>8474088
Mhmm!
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>>8473965
he's not a twink he's a wide shouldered mesomorphic proto hon

According to him he got someone else to hide them in case of suicidal tier relapse
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>>8474087

yeah i do on a regular basis lmao
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>>8474096
What about girls who are mesomorphic?
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Give me your courage, I'm going to call my mom.
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>>8474093
I understand being self conscious and stuff you dont actually need to get on vc. You should do girl voice with me one day tho for practice.

>>8474094
>Mhmm!
>tfw she cucks you for another calgarian
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>>8474100
And do they even argue back?
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>>8474123

NO BECAUSE THEY NEED FUCKING THERAPY AND THEY KNOW IT LMAOOOO
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>>8474117
C'mon, do you really think I would cuck a cutie like you for my balding weeaboo ex?
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like legit i know that dysphoria sucks but some of ya'll are fucking crazy and need to learn to love yourself lol
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>>8474135
will you love me
>>
Why am I not grimes yet
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>>8474135

I was kinda worried I wouldn't be happy because I can't be cute, but even the small changes I've seen are really making my day.
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>>8474129
The writers seem like they would plan something like that desu, right when you finally accept you like girls you go back to your ex bf. Iv seen it happen on my soaps
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>>8474135
But I want to become somebody worth loving first
>>
I tried find examples where a guy just got breast implants because he wanted them, And there aren't any good cases
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>>8474081
that's why i want dnm sellers, i only ever ordered rcs there, and idk rc vendor sites are all either private or etizolam p much
>>8474135
but what if i can't tell dysphoria from what is real when it comes to myself ;-;
trusting others is hard because it's like the opposite of what i'm thinking
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>>8474107
They are allowed to be

Chromosomes show them to be real woman
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>>8474135
i made a pic for applications yesterday and told my shrink how bad seeing my pic makes me feel even today. he literally said "duh, i could have told you so before with how much you hate yourself".
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>>8474046
I didnt even think of that Ill def look up the questions and do some homework. Im so overwhelmed atm I havent had an interview in years im like terrified. Should I wear super formal or blue collar? My mom was saying to go in a blazer/skirt but then I brought up, "Dress for the job you want" and she said to go in nice jeans and tennis shoes instead.

And then my other friend was saying I should write up a resume in case they ask, but like I already got the interview. What earring should I wear, what necklace? What jewelry? Should I take my nose ring out?

Do I need to know my social? What kind of stuff am I gonna sign? You probably cant answer those two....

Ty Elanna it means alot <3
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>>8474140
That's probably a good thing. Grimes is really ugly, like almost comically ugly
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>>8474135
It isn't that easy
Some of us have self hate that runs very deep
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>>8474147
u cant rlly do that until u love urself u goof duhh
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>>8474115
Good luck.
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i guess the cool grace period of feeling great and keeping my dysphoria under control had to end sometime
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do i pass
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>>8474030
When they ask about your experience in woodworking, tell them that you've handled a lot of wood in your time.
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>>8474186
hugg
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>>8474186
slugg to bunn btw
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>>8474163
Idk, I'm not sure how it is for trades. Obviously you don't need to go formal but I'd say shooting for business casual is probably not going to be overkill.

You will need to have a resume, if you really want this job I would also suggest you have a cover letter prepared just in case.

You will likely not need your SIN and are unlikely to have to sign anything for most job interviews unless they make you an offer on the spot but that's pretty uncommon

>>8474145
That would just be lazy writing imo that arc already happened once
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>In surgery waiting room for FFS
>Blue gown on
>Surgeon drawing lines on my face
>I'm finally going to look like a woman, I'm so happy
>Wake up
>Go outside to restaraunt
>First thing that comes out of the cashier's mouth is "yes big man"
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>>8474194
>going out the day after you get ffs
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>>8474188
hugg
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>>8474209
i think it was probably a dream, anon
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>>8474209
No I meant I woke up as in it was a dream.
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>>8474214

oh it sounded more like a fantasy
>>
>>8474217
Chelsea is such a hon
>>
>>8474217
Oh great we have another hun spokesperson
>>
>>8474225
>>8474223
don't insult my mom pls
>>
Is kissing your pillow beta
>>8474186
Snugg
>>8474217
Chelsea is pure
>>8474076
Iktf
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>>8474223
I used to think she passed as well. Angles and lighting as usual
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>>8474223
oi
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>>8474225
That's all you're going to get
>>
>>8474233
>Is kissing your pillow beta
jfc
>>
>>8474234
She'll probably get FFS in the not-so-distant future though
>>
>>8474233
hugg
>>
being australian makes voice practicing really weird, i keep accidentally putting on ridiculous accents
>>
>>8474233
can i be ur pillow
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>>8474237
Janet Mock, Laverne Cox, Amiya Scott, all passing and pretty.
>>
>>8474249
Would you want a hon to kiss you?
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>>8474239
;_; s-sorry. My grill sex drive is in overdrive
>>8474245
Hugg
>>8474249
Of course anon
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>>8474247
>voice training tomorrow
>havent looked at the sheet that she gave me last week once
Tomorrow is gonna be awkward.
>>8474253
Grindr?
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>>8474250
Chelsea is pretty
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>>8474250
>janet mock
hm
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>>8474250
Janet and Amiya are fine but Laverne is a huge hon
>>
>>8474234
she's not that bad, it's just her face that needs work really

she has quite a petite body, plus she's only 5'2"
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>>8474257
She looks like David Bowie in that picture. Note that David Bowie was not a woman.
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>>8473348
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>>8474255
Grindr is more just for a quick dicking, I just really want to build a relationship with someone. I could try dating sites again
>>
>>8474266
you weren't even summoned this time
>>
>>8474265
i still want to marry her ok
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...so what even happened to Potsy?
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>>8474260
Wew
>>8474261
IIRC the first two have had FFS but Laverne refuses to because she wants to "love her inner hon" or some bullshit.
>>8474267
bahahahahahaha we're trannies, nobody wants us for anything more than sex
>>8474275
Probably servicing Muslim cock in Syria.
>>
Chelsea could use ffs on her chin, but other than that I think she looks pretty ok.
>>
>>8474190
So like, I was thinking some nice jeans and a button up plaid plaid shirt worn over a tanktop. Seriously tho like what earrings? Ive got blue dice in right now and figured little black or silver studs/balls would be the safest, really basic. and should I take my nose ring out?

See that isnt obvious to me tho lol like Im totally clueless Ive never had an actual job before and havent had an interview in years.

Mmmk Ill def bring a resume, Ill have to uh, write one up tommorow.
>>
>>8474285
Sh could have silently gotten FFS with her gov compensation and then came out to the public but no she had to force her hon face on the world.
>>
>>8474255
isn't grindr only for gay guys?
>inb4 that's what we are
gay guys still don't like boobs.
>>
>>8474291
lol

she has no compensation either, gov still finds her guilty, just thinks time's served
>>
>>8474293
No there are trannies on it AFAIK. I think it's safer than tinder because no straight men.
>>8474297
Murica.
>>
>>8474277
;__;
B-but I want to go slowly with someone, have them kiss me after a date, then have things build a couple dates later into sex
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>>8473227
Wasn't even me senpai, might have been someone else.
t. Co-Worker
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Tfw approved for suporn for 2019
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>>8474305
Literal pipe dream
t. Pumped and dumped by chasers this entire year
>>8474313
Where tf are you getting the money for this?
>>
>>8474291
At least she's making an honest effort instead of spending all day shitposting on mtfg and refusing to go fulltime without ffs.
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>>8474275
Doesn't she have an ED page or some shit?
>>8474287
I actually have no fucking clue about earings, my ears aren't even pierced. Shoot for basic imo
I would take the nose ring out if you want to look professional definitely but like I said I have never interviewed in the trades so I don't know how much this stuff matters

You probably have about the right idea when it comes to how dress at least from what I'm gathering
>>
>>8474317
How much is it do you estimate?
>>
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>>8474266
emma how are you bitcoins today

did u make any tasty food
did u make pastas
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The Dragon Ball Super dub is actually really really really good
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>>8474330
made mac n cheese
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>>8474338
>watching dubs
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>>8474330
anime cat girl eating burger
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>>8474338
>watching dragon ball
not very girly, missy!
>>
>>8474340
I will unironically watch dubs over subs if the dub is good enough and i dont care who knows it.
>>
>>8474338
>watching normie shounen
>watching dubs
what happened to you?
>>
things to know before u dateme

http://thoughtcatalog.com/heidi-priebe/2014/11/7-things-you-should-know-before-you-date-an-enfp/
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English goku >>>> Japanese goku desu
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>>8474339
w-was it five cheese OWO
with crummy crumbs and bacons and grilled chicken chunks
did you add salt to the water by boiling a squishy diap, in it?
>>8474344
yummy nummie but their better be an egg on that burger
>>
dumb anime :(
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>>8474340
DB is the only exception for me.

I don't watch anime anyway tbqh

>>8474346
Oh no I guess I have to stop watching DB then

>>8474348
Someone who doesn't watch Vietnamese Kitchenwareanimation regardless but DB has always been an exception.
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>>8474354
>Japanese goku desu
Thats because japanese goku has always been voiced by an old woman
>>
incredible how the prospect of being stuck here all year was there before, but now i can't even bear to think of the week and a half i still have to wait
>>
>>8474360
what's wrong with it?
>>
>>8474360
inorite anime is for faggots
>>
>>8474360
ty for saying this <3
>>
>>8474381
Stupid dumb weeabo scum
>>
>>8474355
you know my recipe well
;3333333
>>
>>8474385
That is the face of a man who wants to give tha succ
>>
>>8474380
nope, gotta be an alpha girl and take charge, get the shit I want. or like, at least spent half the time not crying in a corner anyway.
>>
>>8474380
i already had little motivation but hrt sucked the little i had away

im rockin a stache rn
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>>8474390
God damnit no
>>
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>>8474401
Pls be in
C O M O X
O
M
O
X
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>>8474380
Same. I'm just a energyless void, I don't even have the energy to clean my room anymore, I have basically given up on life, all I need is for my body to realize it.....
>>
>>8474380
I just got on srs wait list but yeah I still feel this way. I wonder if I'll be the /pol/ stats of "lol srs doesn't decrease suicide"
>>
hugg elann
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>>8474410
i wonder how many people commit suicide due to no srs, but do not write this down anywhere, so it is not known to be compared to suicide rate post-op :thinking:
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>>8474404
STOP
>>
i'm not out to my writers club and there's a dude there who's 26 and very gay and has been saying for like a year he 'wants to become a woman' but has made no visible effort, like his arms and legs are still very hairy and he keeps saying really masculine nonsense and his voice isn't much altered, like what's this fucking dude's deal? i mentioned offhand once i'd come from an electrolysis appt and i don't think he even knew what it was
>>
>>8474399
please delete your moustache
>>
>Paint my toes

I just realized this is pointless since I never show my feet.
>>
>>8474421
he's a lazy hsts
>>
>>8474428
that's a very generous reading
>>
>>8474399
what kinda stache
just a bit of fuzz or a proper one?
>>
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>>8474415
That's very clearly the case similarly most trans women don't go down as trans they get put down as male suicide. Totally bullshit statistic. I'm certain it will improve my quality of life I'm just so fucking terrified like omfg wtf is my life. Like actually wtf is my fucking life. I'm so scared :x


>>8474421
Attention seeking faggot. Or maybe legit trans. Either way, avoid. I kicked a gay kid out of my writing class because he grabbed a girls ass and he told me it was okay because he was just "queering around".


>>8474423
I can't shave because of stitches. Check this degenerate shit out.
>>
>>8474399
Rocking a start of a beard + goatee/stache here

Stopping hrt for a few days and starting again after realizing how dumb that was somehow made my body hair end up looking darker :^(

>>8474408
Me too

>>8474410
I gave up on srs around April
It's too costly and in general i dont think i'd be happier with it
>>
>>8474423
no point in shaving, i have a shadow even when im cleanshaven

>>8474432
like two days worth so its stubble rn
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>>8474420
Does he know you wanna get on hormones?
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>>8474436
I'd rather fall into typical new yorker debt and get a vagina than let money in my youth preclude sexual success. Biology fucked me, surgery can help me. I don't know if I'll be happier, but it can't be worse. I've always been hella AGP so I want my girl pussy none of this butt stuff people keep saying is "just as good".
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>>8474322
Oh, shit, why havent you pierced your ears elanna? And yeah Il just go with some metal studs or something. Ill take the nose ring out too.

Yeah I mean Im less panicked about it the more I think about it, Im pretty confident desu I think a degree and a background in woodworking are really good qualifications for the position and in college town during the summer I doubt they have many applicants.

>>8474425
B-but what if you get naked with a boy?
>>
>>8474443
>B-but what if you get naked with a boy?

Cuddle with him.

also succ
>>
>>8474425
you could show your feet here
>>
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>>8474449
no
>>
>>8474435
it's an interesting story but i don't really know what its relevance is? kinda just seems like ur saying u hate gays
>>
>>8474453
attention seeker using his queerness to excuse his oddities
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>>8474440
But I don't wanna get on hormones.
>Gay man trying to groom me
>Elanna trying to groom me
what fresh hell am I in
>>
>>8474380
>thought I passed
>everyone knows I'm not cis
like i can't even say trans anymore
and i don't want to be one too
>>
Have you heard of the high elves?
>>
>>8474319
We all know that if FFS was cheaper/widely available on insurance/funded by the state every tranny would have FFS before going full time. You're just salty that you can't afford it so tell trannies that don't want to show their man face to society that they "aren't putting in any effort".
>>
>>8474462
nise reference
>>
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what are you up to tonight, fellow degenerates?
>>
>>8474467
You ghosted since FFS
>>
>>8474456
yeah i see, he also broke up w his partner of like 6 years right before he started saying so idk, i feel like he's mayb just making a really bad job of a normal identity crisis
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>>8474457
Look, just give in. You can't fight these feelings forever, you'll only break down in the end. The sooner you start, the sooner you can become cute.
>>
>>8474469
what does this even mean
>>
>>8474465
Get it?
Because Elann looks like an elf and she took lsd
>>
>>8474472
And take a legitimacy and renown hit? No thank you
>>
>>8474467
eating some bread
>>
>>8474472
This is gonna happen with HL3 soon, Gabe will have blood on his hands.
>>8474473
Sorry, inner London slang. You dissappeared.
>>
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>>8474480
>>
>>8474472
>the sooner you can become cute.
hrt doesn't make you cute :/
>>
What is a good birthday gift for a somewhat nerdy trans girl who likes anime. Asking for a friend.
>>
>>8474485
Tell that to Elanna
>>
>>8474491
what anime does she like desu?
>>
i feel embarrassed and i haven't left the house? thought i looked really female earlier today, few hours later saw a couple things were wrong, and now feel awfully embarrassed for fooling myself that time hmmmmm
>>
>>8474482
come get it desu
>>
>>8474476
Dude I'm too high for this rn
>>8474457
This is a hell of your own making you knoww
>>
>>8474492
i assume she's always been cute
>>
>>8474467
It hit 24 degrees today and was stupidly humid, so mostly I'm sitting here melting ;_;
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>>8474481
>This is gonna happen with HL3 soon, Gabe will have blood on his hands.
Nobody seriously expects HL3 anymore though.

The Turks still tease us a couple of times a year with updates, as if they're still working on it.
>>
>>8474485
does if you stay a boy
>>
>>8474496
isn't this like the stereotypical tranny experience
>>
>>8474505
but that defeats the purpose of hrt
>>
>>8474506
yeah but

it hadn't happened for three days and

i forgot
>>
>>8474510
i'm too agp to have social dysphoria but hrt makes me feel better
>>
>>8474485
iktf...
>>
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>>8474480
good girl!

>>8474481
ya my posting frequency is inversely proportional to my happiness. Ive been feeling comparatively ok for a while and hence not posted, most people can just reach me via discord tho.

>>8474501
I wish it was 24 degrees here desu
>>
>>8474510
hrt doesnt have a purpose. god gave it to us to do with as we wilt
>>
>>8474522
>god
fuck that guy.
>>
>>8474520
>my posting frequency is inversely proportional to my happiness
same...
isn't that the same with everyone???
>>
>>8474453
I do. They touch my shoulders! Jk I only hate flamers who think being gay means they get a free pass to molest and I've seen far far less these days as it's become like you know fucking normal to be gay.
>>
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>>8474530
I dont know, most people Ive talked to about this dont believe me when I say that I think.
>>
Doin a dysphoria
>>
>>8474499
No, I blame you for this
>>
>>8474539
oh god same tb h <3 huggggs
>>
hatin me rn
>>
God Cola Zero Cherries is the best shit ever
>>
>>8474552
I like Pepsi Max Cherry better desu
>>
i wish teleporters existed
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>>8474547
I mean clearly there are a lot of vibes you're giving off and they are not 'straight' 'cis' 'dude' or whatever combination of those things given queermos everywhere seem to want to groom you lmao
>>
>>8474552
>>8474554
lets just agree that artificial cherry flavoring is just good
>>
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>>8474552
>>
i give up on life
>>
>>8474555
me too, i'd teleport elanna into a shark tank
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>>8474560
The only vibe I give off is that I want to light in Britain a flame that time alone will not extinguish
>>
>>8474560
could you not shill hormones on everyone and anyone just passing by
>>
Water > Coffee > Martini > Tea > Orange Juice > Chocolatemilk > Cola Zero Cherries >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shit >>> milk

>>8474554
>Pepsi
Stopped reading right there

>>8474562
I agree

>>8474563
This is a good pic
>>
i give off "straight cis male" vibes
>>
>>8474583
>being lactose intolerant
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>>8474577
you
I think I like you
>>
>>8474585
I'm not feeling the vibes but maybe because I'm replying to a grill

>>8474586
I'm not but milk is fucking disgusting
>>
>>8474587
i think i like you sophie

not sure tho
>>
>>8474590
whatever you say autist
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>>8474583
>she prefers coffee over tea
>she doesn't enjoy a glass of cold milk on a hot summer's day
creep
>>
>>8474592
>not sure tho

w-wow
so cruel
>>
>>8474596
because ily you ducky!

:3
>>
>>8474590
>milk is fucking disgusting
delet this
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>>8474587
We can rally around the king together, anon

>>8474594
>Not a nice glass of sweet tea
disgusting
>>
>>8474593
am i autistic if i only like ice cold skim milk
everything else tastes terrible
>>
>>8474593
Whatever you say sport

>>8474594
>>8474602
If those are your preferences, can't argue with you two

also >>8474601 new
>>
>>8474605
do you mean the king can rally around me?

because I am pr sure that as imperial princess, I am above kings

>>8474600
OMG <3 :3
>>
Lotsa girls prettier than me here
>>
>>8474664
Lotsa girls prettier than you just about everywhere
>>
>>8474550
Iktf :3
>>
>>8473423
>want to get close to piety
>remember she will just emotionally ghost you and or long term turn you into an orbiter

T-Thanks Piety...
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