What is the likelihood that being molested by my aunt made me trans

MTF or FTM?

>>8454035
MtF

>>8454037
That's p hot

Are you a virgin to men?

>>8454040
I know this sounds crazy but I was actually hoping for a somewhat serious answer and not a fetish thread

>>8454030
If it's not because you thought yourself as trans since the day you were able to form coherent thoughts then you're not trans.
See a doctor it's not too late

>>8454047
Just know that guys post here too.

>>8454047
This fucking 4chan. You can't reasonably expect anything less

>>8454054
>>8454061
Don't get me wrong, I was absolutely expecting those kind of replies. I just wanted to state that my question was genuine, that's it.

To the person who asked I haven't done anything sexual with anyone else.

Probably a little? Unless you feel like it doesn't. In that case, it doesn't.

>>8454067
>To the person who asked I haven't done anything sexual with anyone else.

Hope you're not asexual trans - do you get pleasure at the idea of ANYONE touching you?

>>8454049
I crossdressed all the time as a kid, which played a part in what happened, but I didn't really start feeling intense dysphoria until 14ish

>>8454030
What is the likelihood that you'll tell us the story?

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>>8454030
100%.

>>8454030
Did you have any trans feels before this happened? Did you do any GNC stuff before? It's possible it had an effect on you, but I doubt it made you trans. Unless she was forcing you to dress and act like a girl along with it.

pretty high actually, since sexual abuse is highly correlated with mental issues like BPD and being a disaffected psycho, which is in turn highly correlated with trannies.

get therapy from a NON-gender therapist who isn't trying to indoctrinate you into the cult of trans and see how you do after a year or so

>>8454160
>staying at aunts for a few weeks while mom is in hospital
>started wearing my aunt's clothes and playing with her makeup while she is at work
>she comes home from work early and sees me dressed in her clothes
>panic and run into bathroom and lock myself in door
>she is sweetly telling me to come out, I don't have to be embarassed, and she wants to see how cute I look
>finally come out of bathroom, she hugs me and comforts me, asks why I'm wearing her clothes
>tell her I wish I was born a girl
>she says its ok and that I can be a girl for today
>she asks if I want to try on more of her things and I say yes
>she undresses me and starts getting touchy

It progresses from there, I feel kind of shitty writing this up and I doubt anyone will believe this actually happened

>>8454271
It's ok anon I believe you. Do I think it turned you trans? No. You were already dressing up in her clothes.

>>8454234
Not him, but i had GNC in childhood (growing nails out/crossing legs at thighs/stole mom's dress + makeup kit once) and was also molested before turning out tranny.

>>8454271
You still haven't answered whether you'd like to suck dick or are asexual

>>8454271
holy shit
it really is just like my animes

>>8454280
What if it was just an early fetish or I just had girl envy at the time or just liked girl's clothes?

What if it would have just been a phase if things went differently?

>>8454271
How old were you?

>>8454271
Have you ever told anyone about this?

I know you feel shitty, but would you mind writing out the gory details?

Also no, you were molested because you were trans. You weren't trans because you were molested.

>>8454292
Anon I used to dress up in my mother clothes too. I was never molested and I still turned out to be a tranny. It's likely you would've been this way either way. Even if it did make you a tranny no point dwelling on it what's done is done.

>>8454289
I'm not asexual. I've never done anything with a man or a penis

>>8454295
Ten

>>8454301
No I haven't told anyone about this.

>would you mind writing out the gory details?
I tried typing it up but I keep deleting what I write because I feel bad.

>>8454327
>I'm not asexual. I've never done anything with a man or a penis

How far along HRT are you babe?

>>8454327
Do you still see your aunt? Like is she alive and stuff?

>>8454303
Honestly I don't really think it made me trans, deep down. I just worry about it sometimes and I wanted to know what other people would think of the situation.

>>8454334
Only a few months

>>8454351
I haven't seen her in years but when I came out to my family she sent me an email saying that she was proud and supportive of me. Yes she's alive

>>8454271
hot as shit, pray continue so i can climax

>>8454362
>Only a few months

Don't take how I've been posting as weird. My last GF has a similar past as you and I naturally gravitate to your type.

>>8454362
Wow. How old was she when this happened?

>>8454382
What is my type?

>>8454385
Early thirties. My mom had me when she was 19, my aunt is older than her.

>>8454040
Burn in hell forever.
>>8454271
Where is the part of the story in which you avenge yourself and kill her ?

>>8454412
One of the main reasons I never told anyone is that I don't want to ruin her life. I think what she did is wrong but I don't want revenge

Another anon here, what's the likelihood that lesbian parents made me trans?

>>8454408
Downtrodden flower that hides in the shade

>>8454418
Rape is not "wrong", rape is one of the greatest evils people can commit. Start using the correct terms. You must realize that you have been the victim of a CRIME.

>>8454418
She deserves to have her life ruined.

>>8454327
Fair enough. I can't make you tell me, nor do I want to.

Sorry that happened to you, it's shitty. Why do you feel bad about it though? Are you, like, guilty about it and shit? Because it's not your fault. If you just rather wouldn't relive it, though, I can't blame you.

Sometimes letting this shit out can be cathartic, but maybe not on 4chan where you get comments like >>8454369 >>8454040

I hate to say this, but this is not that rare and not so big a deal that people should change how they see you as a person. There are people that will understand. It sounds like you have some serious baggage around this so please consider opening up to someone.

>>8454418
It's been a long fucking time, I'm guessing, but I would be worried if she is still around children. This might have been an isolated incident, but if she has kids or something that's not good.
>>8454463
How about you chill and don't push them into a victim complex? This is serious and they should consider taking action about her still being in society after committing a crime like that, but why are you trying to get her to rethink the entire situation to make her feel worse about it?

>>8454490
How about you stop assuming I have bad intentions ? I'm not pushing anyone in a victim complex, I'm only telling the truth, that rape is an abominable crime that must be severely punished. There's something wrong with you to misrepresent what I obviously want to say in such a way.

>>8454510
Obviously your intentions aren't to push them into a victim complex, I'm saying that's what you're doing. You're telling a person who was abused when they're ten that they need to realize that they've been a "victim" of "one of the greatest evils people can commit". I don't care what your intentions are, they're not as important as what you're actually doing.
If it makes you feel better, I'm not saying that you're a bad person, I think you probably have good intentions, but I disagree with what you're doing.

>>8454463
>>8454469
I don't want to destroy anyone's life, even if they deserve it. I don't want to hurt people

>>8454486
I just feel ashamed. What happened to me felt so disturbing but at the same time it's probably the kind of thing a lot of people have fantasized about or wished happened to them, and it's further twisted by being the first time I was able to express myself as a girl to another person. It's hard for me to get over the feeling that being trans automatically makes me a pervert even though I know it's not true, and I'm afraid that if I share my story people will think I'm just a pervert making shit up.

>>8454490
She's never married or had children. As far as I know she's never worked with children or anything like that either. She has had severe depression for years because of not having a family according to my mom.

>>8454469
>>8454490
There's no way she would be a threat to children. If this freak incident provoked any such interest in her, she would have plenty of time to think about it, and would be due to gravitate towards legal younger femme male partners, there is plenty of demand for that, and after one or two relationships, she would realize the lack of intrinsic appeal.

>>8454525
>You're telling a person who was abused when they're ten that they need to realize that they've been a "victim" of "one of the greatest evils people can commit".

Yes ? Is there anything actually false about it ? Could you care to explain me what is actually false about it ?

>>8454538
>There's no way she would be a threat to children.
What ?

>>8454529
Hit me up with your location

>>8454529
>if I share my story people will think I'm just a pervert making shit up.
People in real life haven't read the doujins that the people here have. I'm going to trust your judgement on the situation when it comes to whether or not you want to reveal what your aunt did, so I'll tell you that if you tell this story then there will be people telling you that you need to accuse your aunt of doing this in a legal sense. I wouldn't worry very much about people thinking you made it up, but there will be people that will want to remove your aunt from society.
>>8454547
That's an incredibly lazy argument. Let me give you an example of why it's lazy. Say someone's mother dies, right? They're really distressed about it at the time, but over time they learn to live with it and like ten fucking years later they no longer have nearly as much emotional response to it as they used to.
Now imagine you going up to them and saying "your mom fucking died like she took care of you and raised you that's one of the worst things that can happen to a person you need to realize that you're a victim here". You don't know it, but you're basically trying to reopen scars. Stop emotionally pushing her to feel bad about something that she might have already spent a lot of time working to not feel bad about.

>>8454529
We all have things that make us ashamed. For instance, there was a while I was a druggie who stole for pills. I also starting sexting 30 year olds when I was around 12 (did wonders for my later relationships lmao). I'm ftm, and there are people who tell me it's because my mom died when I was real young. I wonder if that has any validity to it, and I hate to fill in that stereotype.

Like I said before, it's not as big of a deal as you're making it out to be, and more people will relate than you think. Sadly, it's common. (That's not to diminish your feelings -- you have every right to be disgusted and hate that it happened.) But decent people will understand. Stay ashamed if you want, but I guarantee there are people out there who will be sympathetic.

For instance -- my girlfriend was molested by her dad. She's very into bdsm, and that's how we interact in the bedroom. Is her fetish and behavior caused by her sexual assault? I don't know, and I don't care. I just want to be there for her if she needs me.

Which is to say, I guess, even if it is a fetish, which it sounds like it isn't -- so what?

You're valid tbqh familia.

>>8454560
I explained how. if she had interest spurred in a younger partner, there's readily available venues online making connections possible. If she had interest spurred in femmy males, there's readily available venues online relating to that too. Though she'd be due to be hit with the disappointing reality of it.

>>8454571
Don't you know that victims of rape often downplay the fact that they've been victims and that whoever raped them is an evil person ?
The truth must be told even if it hurts a bit. Such people (rapists) must simply not be allowed to live freely in society, even if OP felt absolutely fine about what happened to her. Evil must not go unpunished, that's what I'm trying to say since the beginning of our argument.

>>8454623
Hell no. The massive amount of focus on rape is just reeling in a backlash. And the weirder the stories, the more ammunition it gives to people out to write off as much rape as conceivable.

>>8454030
My aunt molested me and I'm trans soooooooo maybe?

>>8454620
How do you know she didn't do something like that ? You obviously don"t understand how such "people" (child molesters) function at a psychological level. They care about being evil, that's literally all they care about.
>>8454619
Victims must not be allowed to feel shame, there is no shame in being a victim, and they must understand that. About your girlfrient, that you don't care to try to make love to her in a non-violent way only shows that you're a pervert yourself, you should feel shame.

>>8454623
I'm aware of this. However, consider this: we literally don't even know what happened. I'm advocating for her to consider what happened and make a judgement on whether or she should do anything to her Aunt in a legal sense, because she knows what happened and we don't. You are approaching her with a very aggressive and potentially distressing line of thought. Also, it's likely been a very long time since this happened. Maybe it's just because I am not 30, but I tend to believe that people change very, very much over the course of ten years.
And "evil must not go unpunished" is a pretty shitty moral philosophy. There is no virtue in harm, only prevention justifies harm.

Look, the entirety of what I'm saying is that we should encourage her to consider what happened and if it warrants a legal response, but not fucking sledgehammer her with "YOU'RE A VICTIM" because telling her that she needs to feel terrible about it at this point years later is a bad thing to do to someone.

>>8454665
She tops me, you absolute troll. She's the one bruising and tying me up, not the other way around.

Besides, I am loving to her. I ask to let me kiss her, and I then I do it until she tells me to stop. And she loves it.

>>8454681
>if it warrants a legal response
There's no question about it. It does.

>"evil must not go unpunished" is a pretty shitty moral philosophy.
I find it is quite true and satisfying on every levels.

>>8454694
Listen. Bruising is not actually ok. It is violent.

>>8454715
What makes you think you're a moral authority here?

>>8454571
>but there will be people that will want to remove your aunt from society.
I understand why people would feel that way, and I don't blame people for feeling that way. Either way, I don't want to that to her. I don't want this situation to cause more pain to anyone.

>>8454619
Your post warmed my heart anon.

If you two don't mind me asking, why do you want the details? Curiosity? Is it arousing to you? or something else

>>8454620
I think it was more of an opportunistic event, even with what she did to me it's hard for me to believe she would actively prey on other children.

>>8454701
You probably find it satisfying because humans naturally get satisfaction out of revenge. However, there is no real moral basis for this. The only basis is hedonism as you get to take pleasure at the imprisonment of others.
>>8454715
Stop this shit.

>>8454271
Weird the situations AGP can lead you to.

>>8454723
I know that bruising is violent and that violence and love don't tend to mix very well.
>>8454725
it's hard for me to believe she would actively prey on other children.
See ? Just as I said, victims of rape often downplay the evil of their aggressors, because it understandably hurts them to understand how really evil such people are. The truth must be told even it hurts. I'm sorry about it if it hurts though, that's not the intent, the intent is complete healing and reparation.

>>8454725
I'm not either of those anons but I'd like the details because unfinished stories trigger me.

>>8454747
Forgot to greentext >it's hard for me to believe she would actively prey on other children.

>>8454747
Stop it with this "evil, evil, evil!" dogma. Your kind is tiring. You people are not going to be getting away with that shit endlessly, the more indignant you act, the more you'll just provoke people into setting out to piss all over your aggressive dreams.

>>8454728
>imprisonment
Oh, that's not what I had in mind.

>>8454747
Thinking of people as "evil" only helps you to dehumanize them. It's not a philosophy that gets you closest to the truth.

>>8454725
I'm glad my post could make you feel better in some capacity.

I don't mind the question at all -- no, it's not arousing to me. To be completely honest, I am a little bit curious. Mostly, though, I would like to be a sympathetic ear. I think it's good to get stuff off your chest, and, selfishly, I like to be there for people.

>>8454747
That's a nice opinion you have there, mate, but I'll be disregarding it. I never feel better than after a session cuddling with her, and she enjoys it too.

>>8454764
So, didn't you like stories of evil being defeated when you were a child ? I still love them.

>>8454767
I don't care what you had in mind. No one wants to hear your revenge-porn fantasies.

>>8454776
Those stories are intentionally black/white with regards to good/evil because they're for fucking children. That's not how life works, you self-righteous person.

>>8454619
>did wonders for my later relationships lmao
How?

>>8454776
No, I appreciated various stories when I was a child, it's only when I got older that I ended up being drowned in "DEUS VULT!"-tier dreck.

>>8454771
Where did i criticize cuddling ? What do you mean by "bruising" anyway ? If you don't actually damage your bodies then fine I suppose...but if you do actually damage your bodies, even in minor ways, then that's just not okay, and you must realize that.
>>8454769
How can i dehumanize people that aren't human in the first place ? Rapists aren't people.

>>8454794
>How can i dehumanize people that aren't human in the first place ? Racists aren't people.

God, that's just so tired, trite, tiring...

>>8454778
>revenge-porn
Hey, I'm not that kind of repugnant person who wants to be just as evil as the wrongdoer. They always disgusted me. I was just thinking of a quick, moderately painful death, like hanging, or beheading.

>>8454784
You just stopped dreaming.

>>8454794
Hey, do you get off on the cycle of child abuse? You know how a significant percentage of those abused as children grow up to abuse others. Do you get off on that? Do you get off on being able to judge them? Does every instance of child abuse make you think "oh boy a two for one, I get to dehumanize this person now, and then later I'll get to dehumanize the victim!" Fucking hell.
>>8454811
You're pretty repugnant, actually.

>>8454794
I should clarify, because it seems like you don't know anything about bdsm. I didn't mean a cuddling session, I mean a bdsm session. Afterwards, we cuddle, and it feels like my body is singing.

By bruising I mean fucking bruises. I like it hard, so they get purple, blue, and red. Yeah, it hurts, but so what? I like it. So does she.

Moreover, all people are capable of evil. Your moral absolutism is annoying and inaccurate. Good people do bad things. Bad people do good things. People are capable of great kindness and great harm, even you.

Your way of thinking means you don't try to understand the root of the problem, which means you can't take effective preventative measures. It's lazy and reactionary.

Of course, you're not interested in actually helping people, you're interested in feeling like a good and moral person. Quit virtue signaling. Nobody cares.

>>8454785
Started a pattern in me where I crave approval from people and will do stupid and degrading things to get it, even when I'm uncomfortable and feeling like shit.

So, you know, healthy behaviors.

>>8454826
Wow there... okay calm down. I didn't say anything that should be interpreted in such a way... Child abuse is the one thing that I hate the most in this world above all others. Why do you suspect me of being THAT evil, just because i have a particular way of writing ? I think there's a huge misunderstanding between us, and that's not what I want. This isn't a game to me, I'm actually serious about ending child abuse. I don't want to make anyone suffer because they were raped. My God... http://www.vets4childrescue.org/ is an interesting organisation to support by the way for those who want to seriously fight child abuse.

>>8454840
Where did I imply I was a great person ? I actually view myself as pretty mediocre, you know.

>>8454753
I typed it up again but it still just felt like people would think it was from a doujin so here's the summary. It basically became her talking to me about gender and sex (especially why I wanted to be a girl, how much I knew about what anatomy of girls, explaining periods, pregnancy etc to me and asking if I still wanted to be a girl) and going into increasing detail over the course of it. She got naked in front of me, she put my hand on various parts of herbody. She did things to my nipples, she groped my junk at one point, she showed me her sex toys, and fingered me anally, all of this under the guise of educating me. I was incredibly nervous throughout all of this and she was constantly reassuring me that everything was ok. She herself was also getting increasingly nervous and 'demented' I guess as this went on, looking back it's very clear to me that she became more and more aware that what she was doing was wrong but she kept going on anyway.

>>8454871
Look, maybe I went a bit far, but we are all serious about ending child abuse. It's not a game for me, either. You just have to realize that the world isn't black/white. It's never a good idea to dehumanize others. Even the worst people in this world are humans. Often they are humans that had something very bad done to them, and they end up continuing a cycle. Sometimes they think they're doing the right thing. There's so many ways that a human can turn out to do evil, and it's not helpful to realizing the truth about our reality for you to try to find an easy black/white solution.
Also, I'm not sure where you are from, but I am from America and our criminal justice system is at least ostensibly (sadly, the reality of it doesn't seem to be this way) about reform rather than punishment. That is the greatest goal in my mind. That we could take those who have done evil and teach them to do good. They're humans, too, and no one deserves harm. The only justifiable harm is that which prevents worse harm.

>>8454885
Didn't refute any of my points senpai.

>>8454892
That's pretty fucked. Jesus.

>>8454892
I hope it doesn't effect you too much anon. I feel bad.

>>8454896
I have read more than enough on the kind of things some child molesters do, and that abominable knowledge changed me forever, there's just no way i can bring myself to view them as redeemable, they've just gone way, way, way, way too far for me. There is such a thing as an actually malignant, knowing will. I've seen too much and read too much to believe there isn't. I still believe most people can be redeemed though.

>>8454914
Look, is your body ok ?

>>8454934
Not really, but nothing she did to me. The bruises heal, nothing she does to me is permanent.

>>8454938
Well when you get old, your body may start to heal less and less quicky. You should be aware of that.

>>8454926
I think they are typically very mentally ill. I think they need serious help.
Also, instituting the death penalty is something I will never advocate for any crime. Apart from my belief that the state shouldn't be able to take the lives of its citizens, there's also too many cases where what happened isn't clear cut. Watch Capturing the Friedmans, it's one of the most interesting documentaries I've ever seen.
I know the evil people can do, but I will always believe in the potential for reform. If not reform, then I believe in removal from society, but I will never believe in the death penalty. Life makes monsters, but it's never the monster's fault for being made into one.

>>8454945
I'm well aware of that. I don't plan to have her choke me blindfolded when I'm 80, or even 50. Hell, I don't even expect to live that long.

Let me be a masochist in peace.

>>8454951
>tfw OP and masochism is my biggest fetish

>>8454950
Whose fault is it then ?

>>8454958
The thing you are missing here is that you are looking for someone to assign fault to. We are all dropped into this world without prior knowledge, and sometimes it shapes us into monsters. It's no one's fault, it's just what happens.

>>8454977
Are you familiar with holy books by any chance ? That's not what any of them say to my knowledge.

>>8454993
I'm not a religious person, and I'm not particularly concerned about what they have to say on the subject.

>>8454954
Masochism is hot. High five.

Thanks for sharing, you feel any better at all now?

>>8455019
Sort of. I really do feel better for getting it off my chest even if I didn't go too in detail, but it's countered by the anxiety I feel thinking about people reading it

>Masochism is hot.
What do you like about it?

>>8455023
Not the person you were responding to, but you shouldn't feel anxiety about people reading it. No one I've seen here believes you're making anything up (and even if there was one, certainly the majority doesn't), and you're on an anonymous forum so you're safe. I'm glad you were able to share, it's really good to be able to talk about these things and, as you said, get them off your chest.

>>8455043
Thanks anon. I'm not just worried about people thinking I'm lying though, it's just embarrassing to expose myself like that.

>>8455023
I'm glad! That kind of shit can be really heavy, having others share the weight helps.

As for masochism, I like the powerlessness of it. When I'm tied up and blindfolded I have no fucking idea what's gonna happen next. I'm dependent on my Domme. She decides what happens to me, whether I feel pleasure or pain. That excites the hell out of me.

I like other bdsm things too, like typical sub behavior. I went and surprised myself by getting really turned on by body worship, for example.

What about you?