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>>8443725
why in the flying fuck would anyone remotely lgbt side with conservatives?

>>8443725
>>NO CHASERS
fuck

>>8443745
Gay rights has already been won and very few high-level conservatives are going to actively campaign against it. The culture has shifted.
Vote conservative for fiscal reasons alone. Do you like having rights to your property? No? Okay Stalin.

>>8443745
Conservatism is a meme term that doesn't really mean anything anymore. But the core idea of conservatism is compatable with lgbt if you want to preserve lgbt and the society you've become accustomed to. Identity politics in general make no sense and using terms as if they really mean something when they don't is a bad habit. /pol/ isn't conservative at all for example. They're mostly reactionaries or revolutionaries. They don't want the status quo but rather some imagined better future, usually defined as "the opposite of what our opponents want." Then there's the other half of /pol/ that are all classical liberals. Classical liberals want the most freedom possible period. If anything /pol/ is really quite attractive for lgbt individuals for the amorphous nature of utopianism. It can alway promise a better life with inspecific sophistry and an appeal to the particular problems of the target group.

>>8443807
I'm left libertarian, but /pol/ has invariably proven itself to be socially conservative. I'm not going to support the right so long as it is wed with social conservatism

>>8443745
Stockholm Syndrome
Self-Loathing
Stupidity

>>8443820
Pol is a libertarian multicultural board.

>>8443725
>trans are allowed
Get the fuck out of my /pol/

>>8443828
if by libertarian multicultural you mean racist fascist

>>8443820
Define left and right.

>>8443880
Left = things I like
Right = things I don't like

>politics politics politics
I believe in Capitalism. People should agree to whatever mutual transaction they want, be it with labor, goods or capital.
>"conservative" vs "liberal"
Gay people should be able to have sex within their own private weed farm and defend their property with short barreled automatic carbines. And then livestream porn online for bitcoin profits.

Conversely, any business operator should have the right to refuse service to anyone, for any reason. A conservative businessperson should never get in trouble (with the government) for refusing to bake a gay wedding cake. The market corrects itself when people boycott said business.

This thread is gay and not in a good way.

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>>8443874
>Waaah waaaah twey awe mwean wacists fwashist waaa
Antifa called, it's your wife's turn to fuck the black guy.

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>>8443901

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>>8443940
Try again statist

>>8443925
if by wife you mean husband and by black guy you mean latino guy then okay, you got me

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>>8443956
>tries again

>>8443960
The joke flew over your head, puppet.
>implying that I care

>>8443985
>advocating for less government is advocating for anarcho-capitalism
Completely, 100% true. It's not like we have schools of political thought trying to study this field. Just post more strawman memes and vote for 1 (or 0) of 2 presidential candidates.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laffer_curve

>>8443807
>Gay rights has already been won
you mean they are getting lost to leftists pushing for Islam and extremists coopring LGBT

centrism is the only way to save us from literal extermination

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>>8443745
Gee I wonder why.

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>>8443745
>>8444052
It's a complete mystery.

>>8444048
Gay rights were a mistake. But Islam and leftism are a bigger mistake.
>centrist
>middle of the oven joke
>not sorry but ok sorry.jpg

>>8444065
Blacks were a mistake.

>WE WUZ FAGGITS N' SHIET
This is what "cultural enrichment", endorsed by the Jews of course, does to us.

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>>8444080
>Gay rights were a mistake
>on /lgbt/
It's like /pol/ is actively posting their shit outside of their board.

>>8443989
>joke

you have a strange sense of humour, senpai

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>>8444010
Privatizing Prisons just means they make a profit when they find more ways to put you in jail.
Privatizing Roads just means you have to pay a toll everywhere you go.

You need to think these things through, anon.
You can't just believe everything the great pumpkin tweets.

>Laffer_curve
Let me know when you understand what that page says.
Because it doesn't say what you think it does.

>>8444093
>pic related just proved my point
I mean, fag myself, we can all have sex with our partner but the Pride Parades are what ruined the LGB(((T))) in the first place.

only good thing about /polgbt/ is that they kill themselves quickly

>>8443745
pol isnt very conservative for the most part

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>>8444186
not in the UK sense of the word, but conservative means different things in different places.
mostly it means avoiding change and keeping the values of your grandparents which is a very /pol/ thing to do.

eg/ worshipping hitler is what their grandparents did, so they do it reflexively and without introspection.

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THE BEST HRT

>>8444223
Jesus, Milo looks like shit now.

>>8443745
Because they want to defend your constitutional rights whilst the far left infiltrated left will import millions of people who believe you should be murdered and turn your country into a top heavy state model like soviet russia that uses political correctness and "hate speech" as tools to create a very oppressive collectivist society that happily murders dissidents.
>>8443820
Because you're a fucking degenerate who wants chaos and shit over social cohesion, social conservatism is just a desire for good standards and striving for civility, no one cares what you do behind closed doors but fuck off with that pro degeneracy bullshit it's literally destroying our civilization.

>>8444213
Implying the 50s weren't the fucking peak of any civilisation ever in the UK and shouldn't be held up high as the goal for every generation to reach, fucking degenerates i swear with your fucking "if its old its bad" attitude.
>>8444123
>but the Pride Parades are what ruined the LGB(((T)))
As a straight individual i agree with this, hardly anyone cares what you guys do but then you're in the fucking street shoving that shit pointlessly in peoples faces, it literally creates more enemies who can't understand why you don't just fuck off and do something with your life instead of group dancing in the street in speedos to prove a non existent point to an audience that doesn't exist..

>>8444269
>straight individual
>/lgbt/
>why you don't just fuck off and do something with your life

why you don't just fuck off and do something with your life?

nobody cares about your stupid breeder opinions

>>8444269
>As a straight individual
>browsing /lgb(((t)))/
Are you sure about that? No homo!
But seriously, the parades are the preachiest and most obnoxious thing that could've ever come of two men wanting to stick their wiener up each other's butts. I just want a cutie of the same or close age, and be comfy with him at home, I don't want the filthy degenerates and jews coming up with the parade bullshit.

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>>8444305
Fuck off, dude's looking for discussion, you barely functional kike tool.

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>>8444269
>>8444315

if it wasn't for the parades then sodomy (yes, straight anal sex is included) would still be illegal.
you idiots are too stupid to be grateful to the previous generations who made your degenerate lazy life on the intartubes fapping to futa porn possible.
fuck off back to /pol/ with your retard-tier "i just wants a bf but i'm not gay" bullshit
daft twats

>>8443725
>>8444223
Go fuck your trap gf instead of creating threads /pol/tard AnCap

>>8444342
>implying I said I wasn't a fag
>(((futas)))
>implying parades are still needed to this day
>you're also forgetting the Mudslime East
basic. kike. tool.
Source me your "if it wasn't for the parades" argument.

>attempting to argue with /pol/

its like chess with a pigeon. logic is useless and it'll just knock over the pieces and shit on the board

>>8444360
KYS

>>8444398
You must be a magician, because you just vanished your argument.

>>8443816
Conservatism in political theory is the rooted in the idea that it's just for the majority to enforce a moral prerogative and social norms through the political process and to ostracize those outside that collective morality from participation and influence. It is antithesis to the idea of queerness.

>>8444735
So what? I hate queers and never wanted to be associated with any of the LGBT gender destroying bullshit anyway.

I just wanna be a housewife. The LGBT dogma is gay.

>>8444735
Not really. First off "queerness" is an obtuse term, but if homosexuality is a part of the collective morality then a conservative ethic can be compatible with it, as it was in ancient Greece. Again I have to say; get off the identity politics. Gay sex and homosexuality are not political in any way other than the physical nature of the acts themselves.

>>8444952
>I hate queers
>I just wanna be a housewife.

So you hate yourself?
Because a man wanting to be a housewife is queer and not conservative in the least.

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>>8445068
>Gay sex and homosexuality are not political in any way other than the physical nature of the acts themselves.
That is about the dumbest thing I've ever seen anyone post on here, and I've seen it all.

>>8445135
>politics are inherently responses to our impulses
k, but still you need to use an argument instead of just insinuating an argument manchild

dont worry about breeding™you wont need to

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Wew lot's of Antifa here, kek

>>8443745

Not conservatives but The Alternative Right. The alternative to conservativism is The Alt-Right which is mostly cool with us.

>>8444735

The Right =/= conservativism.

>>8445891
Riiiiight

>>8444080
>Islam
>a mistake

You clearly are some newfag to /pol/
We agree with most of what Islam says. We just don't want to follow it because it's a sandnigger faith, if it was white, I'd be a Muslim right now.

>>8446073
>praying to sky dad 5 times a day

O-okay, you do you, anon

>>8443745
>still saying this in 2017
Wow friendo

>>8443827
says the gay guy sleeping in the same bed with Jamal who beats him everyday.

>>8445135
How is suckind a cock and taking it deep in your ass a political statement in anyway? Jesus are you really autistic or you are just confusing acts with ideologies?

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>>8446178
>hurr durrr autism
>mumble bumble ideologies!

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>>8443925

>>8444052
isis is rightwing tho?

>>8446073
>If it was white I'd be a muslim now
>implying
Islamists are degenerate, really? 5 times a day praying to a God that sent a pedophile to overrun the land with his criminal gang? HAHAHAHAHA no thanks. I give him props for killing kikes. It will always be a nigger religion, you barbaric sperg.

>newfag
Gee, that sounds like something that Der Jüden would say.

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>>8447005
Isis is funded by the West to delay a Syrian pipeline from Iraq which makes American Shale Oil the defacto oil producers for the world entrenching the American Petro Dollar as the world's Reserve Currency.
Everyone knows this.

>>8443940
>Implying we really need roads

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>>8443745
>supporting the people that want to bring millions of Muslim death cultists into your country
Actually kill yourself before they stone you and the rest of us to death for being a fags

the academic feminist left is going to launder itself through commie catholicism, steal the term "degenerate", and become the christian feminist left

with the moral authority given to soldiers of god, as well as the biomass of a lot of 40ish female trump voters, they will go after trannies and then gays, in addition to a bunch of ancillary moral crusading (waifus, porn, maybe other stuff like BTC)

there's more but it's worse so I'm gonna put my scrying orb down

>>8448467

>TFW no anti-semetic bf

Take me.

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>>8443901
>the market corrects itself
I like how you lolbert retards don't even conceal that the market has become a literal deity.

>>8452989
>has become

the market has always been abstracted you econ brainlet

>>>/leftypol/

>>8453013
Leftypol is miles better than pol for actual political discussion. I hope you get out of your nazi retard phase soon.

>>8453027
>econ brainlet's only counter is shilling and calling someone a nazi

>>>/leftypol/

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>>8453027
/leftypol/ it's a sad joke

>>8453397
>fuck that's hot

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>>8453027
>Leftypol is miles better than pol for actual political discussion.
>lets try the same shit that has failed 23940852309486 times because the 23940852309487th the charm :^)
back to plebbit you go

shh, hear that?
No? It's the sound of your spooks not being real.

>>8453013
>It's okay if we worship an abstraction as long as we admit it's an abstraction
nigga no

>>8453027
/leftypol/ is more "leftist" than leftist. Closer to strasserists and national "socialists" than anyone wortwhile.

>>8445068
identity cancer in 2k17 is cancer but that doesnt mean it always was

the gay identity arose as a reaction to laws discriminating against homosexuals

identity politics is fine when
1. you do not create the identity(it is an already existing cultural notion or a category created by """oppressors""")
2. this already existing cultural identity experiences some form of (legitimate and specific) oppression

ie
black power movement in response to jim crow laws or south african apartheid, etc
or
gay rights movement in response to centuries of buggery/sodomy laws, stonewall, etc

the only issue is that once these movements are created and the rights have been won there is no clear way to dismember/destroy them, imo this is an issue most of our institutions face, they dont have in-built mechanism for removal (why do state liquor control boards exist? they were created during the temperance era and have never been destroyed despite having basically 0 function)

>>8455104
>there is no clear way to dismember/destroy them
Why would the rulers allow this when it can be turned into another niche market and the identity can be turned into a commodity?

>>8443901
>People should agree to whatever mutual transaction they want, be it with labor, goods or capital.
>people want
do you deny that peoples wants can be manipulated in a variety of ways?

people are malleable, whether its coercion, propaganda, priming, bribing, etc
I might want a cheeseburger for no more than $5 dollars right now but if
im starving to death,
i just watched a burger commercial,
i was just hypnotized into wanting a burger,
i was just told to buy a burger or my family will be shot,
etc
the price im willing to pay for a burger will change

so do you believe in regulating influence? Do free market principles not extend to advertising? What about violence? What about threat of violence? What about implied threat of violence? What about an abstract implied threat of abstract violence with no agent? (if i dont get this job i may starve to death)


the free market is as much of a myth as free will

>>8455112
yeah thats exactly the problem

power will never dismantle itself, it only wants to sustain or increase its power

I think we need to create mechanisms that work against this natural law of power

I dont see any alternative, because power will always exist

>>8455141
You can't create any new structures of power to defeat the old ones or you just perpetuate the cycle like germany and russia did.
You need to go full snowpiercer and focus on pure negation of current conditions.

>>8455144
>You can't create any new structures of power to defeat the old ones or you just perpetuate the cycle like germany and russia did.
I think we can benefit from having many power structures working against each other, ie checks and balances
>You need to go full snowpiercer and focus on pure negation of current conditions.
elaborate? I saw (and loved) the movie but you lost me.

>>8455157
>I think we can benefit from having many power structures working against each other, ie checks and balances
Historically that's only brought war, famine, suffering, even disease intentionally.

>elaborate? I saw (and loved) the movie but you lost me.
They couldn't stay on the train, it was unnecessary, it was harmful to most of them, and it was running out of time. We're in a similar place. We either crash "the train" now and have a chance at survival or it crashes on its own later and we don't get any easy chances.

If any structure we create will only be corrupted by the existing structures, then the absolute destruction of existing structures is necessary to create the conditions for a new structure untainted by our current system.

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>>8455036
>THIS

>>8455189
> war, famine, suffering
this has existed for the entire history of homo sapiens, its only been subsiding in the past handful of decades
and id argue thats because of the 'structure' we have created (universal human rights, medicine, mass production, etc)

ok but what is "the train"
capitalism?
governments?
urban living?
society?

are you a primativist or something?