Daddy Issues

It causes it. You should get reparative therapy.

>>8423345
Maybe not gay, but bi and trans yes.

>>8423345
when you are really young you havn't learned how to hide your faggotry so your parents (and everyone else) can figure it out. your mom might just ignore it because she grew you in her body and she had to push you out of her vag, but your dad will have a harder time ignoring it and is very likely to react to it. Typically they either go overboard trying to make you a man and butch you up so you might end up a closet case who takes years to figure your shit out, or they might get depressed and disconnect from you because they don't know what to do with you and feel like failures and you end up going overboard with faggotry because no strong masculine influence is there to make you feel ashamed of acting like a dumbass cuntbag.

regardless, willfully ignorant people who believe you "choose" to be a faggot because "muh allah don't make no faggots" are going to look at this shit backwards and say that your father's reaction to your innate toddler faggotry was actually the cause of it.

>>8423345

I never understood this ersatz 'electra' complex people talk about. Im sure it exists, but not for me. My dad is the last thing I could imagine when being turned on by a guy.

Its not to say it may not be a factor. He was a weak, timid man. So I guess its possible that thats why I like brutally dominating insensitive bad boys who fuck my shit up. I do know that my homosex as a subby bottom comes from a desire for male validation. I just dont associate with my dad at all. I do associate it with my early years as a kid when I struggled to form peer friendships. So when a guy puts me in place and makes me a cumdump, it feels like that connection I wanted, to be valued personally, a chance for me to show I can please.

Maybe we are all broken males or it is just me. Im fine with it, because I cant imagine being any other way. I could be the straight guy and all. It just doesnt interest me. Once you are outside the herd looking back, its not always appealing enough to want to return.

I think a lot of making homosex a habit is the cost benefit analysis. You ask yourself if you have anything you want to gain, would you get anything out of it. Or will you still be outside no matter what you do. If you will still be a square peg in a world of round holes, going straight doesnt seem like it would really get you much.

>>8423697
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>>8423345

>>8423345
I think people want the world to work in a way that makes sense to them, so people inordinately want the world to look like a novel. Since, y'know, fiction is one way that people show what they want the world to look like. This means, big outcomes have big, singular origins, and everything is anthropic to the ground. Like the world is made up of huge levers that manipulate it: pull the "daddy issues" lever and someone's sexual orientation changes, lean on the "Russian hackers" lever and an outsider gets elected president. Maybe people find this more comforting than accepting that the world is strange and mostly inscrutable.

>>8424017
>>8424094
these are really cringy
why are you posting them?

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>>8424203
because they are text messages from guys with daddy issues?
are daddy issues not cringey?

>>8423618
>muh allah don't make no faggots
Kek
Nice post

>>8423697
>So when a guy puts me in place and makes me a cumdump, it feels like that connection I wanted, to be valued personally, a chance for me to show I can please.
TurnedOn/10

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http://www.bdom.com/cye_web.html

>>8423345
I was ignored by my father while I was young and grew into hating him for his personality later (we are polar opposites) and as a result I want a dominant boyfriend that can be the loving nurturing man that I didn't have in my life, but also satisfy my sexual needs. It should also be noted that i rarely received any punishments as a child and know that even if everyone thinks that I'm a "good child", I'm actually the disappointment that wants to be punished.
t. 19 mtf

>>8425212
2close2home

My Dad fully supported me when I came out of the closet.
It was my mom who was a complete bitch about it.

>>8425414
That happens all too frequently, but people would never think it, even for the people who come out it's often an unpleasant surprise.

>>8425424
Honestly it really was a shock. I came out in private to her, because I thought out of everyone she'd be the one who'd most likely have my back, but when I told her she got upset and made it all about her. She made me tell my Dad the second he came home from work, and concidering the reaction I got from mom I was fucking terrified he'd want to beat the gay out of me, but he had the exact opposite reaction. He said he loved me and only wants me to be happy. Then The two of them got into a fight over me, but long story short, a few days later mom apologised, and though visually I can tell she's still not really comfortable with this, she's trying. Plus it feels good knowing dad's protecting me.

>>8424203

Cringey is autists in 2017 who still think they can shut down jokes/discussions they can't follow by posting 'cringey'. They've managed to reduce an infantile tantrum to a word. How they must've struggled before, trying to find a way to say "i dont like thing" without revealing what a fucking child they are.

>>8425414


dude yer moms hot for you lel

>>8425529
Why did you think she'd be more supportive and understanding?

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>>8425529

thats hawt

so mebe you're mommys special boy or could already be daddys little girl.

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>>8425568

He didnt realize all these years that her kind compassionate nature was sublimated behavior for her yearnings. She must be a real minx, flicking it for him since he was 12 I bet.

>>8425568
Because she seemed like the most liberal person in the house, I never heard her say anything negatively about gay people, and she keeps in contact with my lesbian cousin and seemed to be supportive of her. Plus, shes my mom, so like, all maternal and shit.
My Dad seemed more conservative and on the rare occasion made some banter about gay culture or something.

>>8423345
My family was full of constant fighting and bullshit politics
And my mom left when i was little.
Dad was always great tho, i learned a lot from him
I miss him

>>8425565
>>8425588
>>8425599

My mom's not even hot. :-/

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Am I the only fucking androphilic person without severe daddy issues. I mean I don't like spending time with him but I'm not also trying to tell my bf to "fuck me daddy ruin my slutty little holes! I'll do anything for daddy! etc." I just want a normal bf and a normal relationship. Or at least as notmal as it can get with a transwoman.

>>8425641
I just want a normal gf without daddy issues.

>>8425601
>she seemed like the most liberal person in the house, I never heard her say anything negatively about gay people, and she keeps in contact with my lesbian cousin and seemed to be supportive of her.
It's one thing when it's somebody else's son/daughter, a very different one when it's your own.

Look at how faghags love gay men as pets. You bet your ass they'd still dump their boyfriends if they said they might be bi.

>My Dad seemed more conservative and on the rare occasion made some banter about gay culture or something.
There are plenty of legitimate criticisms of gay culture, let alone when it comes to banter. But that's very different from how you think of gay people as individuals or whether it would get in the way of your relationships with a friend or family member, let alone your own child.

>>8425646
Do you also like brown girls, jazz music, coffee and reading nonfiction?

>>8425657
>brown girls, jazz music, coffee and reading nonfiction

Yes, yes, I prefer Tea and yes.

>>8425655
>its one thing when it's somebody else' son or daughter

this. My mom's best friend's son came out as trans and transitioned. She was so supportive and even paid for surgeries. Now her and (lets just call the transgirl alice) are best friends and she's helping her get acquainted to being full time after transitiong mid 20's or so. When I came out to my mom as trans when I was 18 she low-key tried to stop me by implying that im not pretty enough and didn't help me at all it was so fucking soul crushing. For 3 years she passive agrrssively just tried to prevent me from transitioning by taking subtle stabs at my self esteem. You can't always trust people to have the same rules for everyone.

>>8425665
Do you mind if the brown girl has a penis?

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>>8425624

'hot' is in the eye of the beholder. theres a lot of people, male or female, that I dont find attractive unless there is some context

Maybe your mom is some 'robust woman of stature' who dresses like a school marm, waddles like a house-frau and has a deep throaty voice. But thats ok cuz shes your mom.

Bringing your clean towel when you get out of the shower. Taking 15 minutes to put on your sunscreen at the beach. Holding your face close to her bosom when she hugs you. Resting her hand on your inner lap in open public. Having you sit on her lap until you were 15. Finding your porn but always putting it back. The signs are all there. Oh yes, your mom is a quite the seductive temptress, I would definitely watch that porn.

Congratulations. Many guys go their whole lives and never get as far as you have.

>>8425655
>Look at how faghags love gay men as pets. You bet your ass they'd still dump their boyfriends if they said they might be bi.
Dude, fucking hell my best friend came out to me as bi when I told him I was gay, but also told me not to bring that up around his girlfriend because when he tried to let her know she started crying and he was basically forced to take it back and say he was only joking.

And your right about gay culture, I also have my criticisms, but I'm not a mind reader, all I had to base my dad's opinions about homosexuality, were on those rare comments he said. I was very pleasantly surprised to learn I was wrong.

>>8425672

Perhaps she learned something from dealing with Alice.

Plus, your mom is a woman, no offense. You have to remember how women think. Its entirely possible that your mom supported Alice because she despise's her best friend. Im not even kidding.

It could be something else, of course. But you have to think outside the box with females.

>>8423345
if someone answered like that to me I would first cry my heart out and disappear,and then later when I am good again I would costantly think about getting revenge and keep thinking about that cunt for the rest of my life.
Feels of regret for not having standed for myself mostly..
Is that normal or happens only to me?

>>8425677
Nope, aslong as I don't have to look at it or touch it

>>8425686
I came out to her before the whole alice thing and her friend was supportive of alice too. They're basically all ok with alice who was a flaming gay guy before but me who is younger and having to deal with everything without anyone to reach out to, I confide in anyone and they just burn me every time.

>>8425698
Parental instinct, they encourage other people to be genetic dead ends, but their own offspring? They think your purpose is to carry on for them.

Can't blame them anon, it's in our nature

>>8425698
Have you considered going to alice for support?

>>8425588
Isn't Barron speculated to be AGP?

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>>8425601

>liberal

Well, there you go. I rest my case.

God, I bet she did your laundry every day and spent an extra ten minutes on your underwear alone. I wonder what other fetishes she has. Did she ever share a bath with you or come with you skinny dipping? I'm surprised the tensions hasn't driven her insane. You're sort of lucky, she might've massacred any girl you brought home.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KHhopU_X_U

>>8425693
Nice. We should be friends!

>>8425709
We're only acquaintances not really friends.

>>8425698

Oh well then the hell with that. You have family issues beyond the trans thing. It may be hard to hear but you should start getting some distance between you and your mom, imvho. There could be any number of reasons that are less personal than you'd think. It may not so much be that youre trans but rather that your trans now. In fact, if it wasnt trans, it would eventually be something else.

Im not saying you have to cut her off. Im just saying you need a new intimate circle and should actively seek it, with optimism, because it does exist.

The issue, as I see it- and a disclaimer here: Im just some guy reading a thread online- the issue isn't so much about her reaction to you being trans, but rather her reaction to you period. Something there isn't coming together for me. If she knows you are having some sort of emotional struggle, its not as important whether she approves or not. That would be issue oriented and people can disagree. What instead gets my attention is that she isn't responding to her kids overtures for compassion. Something is off there. And I have to add, you might be doing something seemingly unrelated to evoke this. She may have some other unresolved issues with you and this is just where it becomes visible. It doesnt mean either of you are doing anything 'wrong' necessarily. Perhaps one of you just aren't adept at communicating your feelings. I really do get the feeling she was hung up about something else before this. But then its just my opinion. It may simply be that you dont fit her image of a trans.

Good luck, and remember to find that new intimate circle. You're going to go through a lot of friends in life, and thats ok. Just be sure to get something from the conversations. You'll be fine.

>>8425784
You're Trans, she's trans, honestly I think you should turn that acquaintance status into a friendship, I mean she's been through everything you're going through now, and maybe she'll be able to talk sense into your mother.

>>8425744
>that gif
You're not telling me they don't get off to it.

>>8425744
>MAMMA WANT MILKES.gif

>>8425776
contact?

>>8425862
[email protected]

here email me.

>>8425870
She's dressed in fucking lingerie.

>>8425872
sent you an email

My Dad getting cancer last year was the reason I finally decided to come out as Trans and begin the process of transitioning (MtF).

I'd always been to afraid because I thought my dad would hate me. I'd always said if I still felt these feelings by 30 or If my father died I would transition.

Something that you need to know is my Dad is rich. He owns 31 student rentals and is worth millions, however he has never believed in hand outs and Im just as broke as every other person in their mid twenties.

The issue with the money is that my dad showed me his will a few years ago and I basically get 40% of everything (my three half siblings from a previous marriage split the other 60%). Ever since then I've basically known that whatever I do in life it doesnt matter because in a few years Im probably never going to have to work again. This pretty much killed any ambitions I had and began my depression.

When I found out about the cancer I felt four things

>1 - The sadness at the possibility of losing my dad.
>2 - A sadness that my Father would never know me for who I believe I truly am (a women).
>3 - (This one I hate myself for) A voice in my head kept on saying 'At least if he dies you can transition and money isnt an issue).
>4 - Extreamje guild/depression from 3

My dad survived cancer thankfully but that left me a wreck because I'd managed to get so far inside my own head I'd basically stopped functioning as a human (washing, sleeping, eating ect)

To top it all off I came out and he couldnt have cared less. "Be who you want to be I dont care, Yo're still my child".

Im happy Im out and my family is helping me but Im so sad that I made myself like this. I could have transitioned at 16 and I would be living my life by now instead of being a depressed 25yr old up to his eyes in meds.... trapped.

>>8425900
replied.

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>>8425923

So you have your dad, he supports you and are up to your eyes in loot you havent even begun to spend.

These are your 'problems'.

Sweetie, you need some Tony Robbins in your life.

Get the first week of Personal Power II

<3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iAVaUNTX9U

>>8425923
>and I basically get 40% of everything (my three half siblings from a previous marriage split the other 60%)
Why do you get two-fifths and they get a fifth each?

I'm sorry you didn't get to transition at 16.

>>8425949

My 'problems' are that I create my own reality and gave myself depression.

I dont care about the money past my transition. Im thinking about starting a charity to help other trans people in the UK get private therapy because the NHS makes us wait two years.

>>8425977
>Im thinking about starting a charity to help other trans people in the UK get private therapy because the NHS makes us wait two years.
That's incredibly kind.

>>8425981

Its one of the few things that I feel that can give my life purpose and self motivation.

>>8425976

Because my mother is half owner of everything and my siblings aren't her kids. So it breaks down as me being entitled to 62.5% of their estate.

>>8425744
Just wanna add that my mom's been super conservative her whole life and has been super supportive of me, but I don't trust most any of my liberal family with this info.

>>8423345
Bi MtF.
Father is a douchebag and an alcoholic who verbally abuses me and my mother on a daily basis. Don't remember him playing any significant role in raising me(aside from bringing in the money), I was almost entirely raised by my mother.

>>8423345
Bi.

Both mom and dad treats me well and loves me. The hurr durr my parents hate me so I'm gay is a fucking /pol/ meme.

i masturbate on my underwear and leave it on the shower, my mother washes all the clothes in the house

one time i saw her picking my boxers up and giving them such a long sniff, i got mad at her because im obviously ashamed and told her to to not do it, giving me a cynic smile her answer was "i smell it every time and ive always done it"

i fucking hate my mother because she kidnapped me from the beginning and made my father be away from us


-virgin 24yo dude who isnt sure about his sexual orientation but thinks he may be gay, even though he is not attracted to men

>>8429459
>she kidnapped me from the beginning and made my father be away from us
???

>>8425212
Holy shit me AF, although mine used to beat me when I did shit wrong, and I feel I look for the powerful dominant abusive guys because i'm unworthy of love. No wonder i'm a dysfunctional cumdump

>>8429459
You and your family have a metric fuckton of issues

>>8429459
How's the Motel business going?

>>8424017
>>8424094
Why are gays so promiscuous? I don't get it.

>>8433294
Repression for so long + male drive = more sex

Though honestly the only reason hets aren't fucking more is because women cant keep up.

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>>8433294
>Why do dogs lick their balls?

Because they can

>>8433303
I just want to understand why monogamy seems to be such a rare thing for homosexuals. Almost every gay person I've met has gone out and had tons of hookups with random people, even when they're in a relationship.

It's just strange to me.

>>8433317
>enjoying sex is strange

maybe you're ace

>>8433345
It's the culture of random hookups and a disregard for monogamous values that raise questions. It's something that is widely seen in the gay community, but rarely seen elsewhere.

I'm kind of just looking for an actual explanation on this matter, not a witty retort.

>>8433317
Because monogamy doesn't benefit gays, and as medicine improves and is more accessible, it stops benefitting str8s as much too.
Also hookup culture is pretty popular with str8s, especially if they're college-aged. Although that's slowed down due to rape culture fears.

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>>8433368
>monogamous values

which are...what?
men are meant to spread their seed.
the benefits of monogamy all go to women and children.
monogamy is a losing situation for men.
not having children, and therefore being able to sleep with anyone they like is one of the perks of being a gay man.

>>8433368
Don't bother the sex crazed faggot here (>>8433345) doesn't understand the concept of relationships, romance, and loving someone.

He just wants dicks in his mouth.

I'm also gay but unlike them I was and am looking for potentialy long-term relationships. Not somwhere to stick my dick in.

Disgusting.

>>8433368
>doesn't want witty retorts

then why come to /lgbt/?
you can get banal retorts on any of the other boards

>>8433378
>>8433390

But what about the social and connective bonding aspects of monogamy? There's a lot more to having a significant other than just sex. If you're with someone that you love and you're attracted to them, what is the reasoning for having adulterous affairs with other people?

>>8433392
Oh, okay. That clears it up. Good luck on your hunt, I'm sure you'll find the right guy!

>>8433397
>But what about the social and connective bonding aspects of monogamy?
How are they limited to monogamy?
I think there's a pretty big difference between "this person satisfies all my wants/needs therefore I don't care for finding others" and "I'm aiming to be monogamous because of monogamous values". One is based off pretty basic reasoning, the other is trying to uphold a tradition for pretty much no reason.

>>8433397
>social and connective bonding aspects of monogamy

like sitting at home with your obese wife watching 'murder she wrote' and not having sex?
no thanks

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>>8433392
>>8433397
>I'm sure you'll find the right guy

"Love" was created to sell perfume and chocolates, but good luck with that.
>being this naive is adorable

>>8433451
>bought ex some cologne
>he threw it at me and now I'm blind in one eye
I love love!!!!!!!!

>>8433461
Are you still together?
How much are your monthly disability payments?

>>8433451
>>8433430
Goodness, I didn't realize homosexuals were so hung up on this. If sex is the only thing you're capable of enjoying, I can understand why forming connective bonds with people or finding happiness through love would be difficult. It makes sense that sex would be the primary directive at all times.

Thanks for helping me understand!

>>8433464
Nah I found another man to enjoy material shit with.

>>8433466
Gays are varied m8
There are plenty who don't even give a flying fuck about sex, let alone the rest that comes with it.

>>8433163
kek

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>>8433466
you seem to think that having good sex is incompatible with "forming connective bonds with people"
we have friends for that.
trying to get all your needs met by one person is a recipe for disaster.
why are you here evangelizing your gospel of celibacy anyway?
shouldn't you be in church chanting in tongues to the great and powerful sky daddy?

>>8433545
I'm not preaching anything. I was just asking questions, there's not a reason to get so defensive or start resorting to ad homenim. My questions were answered pretty thoroughly.

Thanks for the discussion, I really appreciate it.

>>8433568
>ad hominem!

I don't think you know what that means, stupidhead.
(Now that was an ad hominem.)

>>8423345
Daddy issues cause faggotry, basically every fucking fag will agree, i'll give you my TL;DR BLOGPOST story.

I have a workaholic and abusive one, pretty fucking sure lifting you by hair and holding you over a open fire so your feet get burns if you disturbed him when he was him counts as abuse, Mom was also mostly absent due work (Dad had a iron grip on the household money and wasted it on stuff he wanted, solo trips abroad to buy candy, motorcycles, cars Metallica concerts etcetera, so money was tight.), so i was basically raised by my two sisters, so later in life after dad divorced mom because she outlived her usefulness and she remarried when i was in my early teens i made fucking point to try and be a strong masculine figure to my (decade) younger bro who also had a mainly absent dad to prevent a repeat, which seems to have worked since he has gone full Chad Thundercock since puberty, so MISSION SUCCESSFUL!

I think doing that kinda helped my issues too, in a cliché "children raise you" way.

Oh, and Dads reaction to my faggotry when he found out "Oh, Ok." so that is one point for him i guess, not gonna say a "Accepting Dad" was worth all that other crap though.

My daddy issues is probably what made my primary fetish that made me a switch and my Achilles heel in said fetish, i like fuckfights, fight to top, loser bottoms, sex wagers, whatever you wanna call it, but if i don't actually get hurt and get continually praised i basically get like butter and submissive as fuck long as the praise keeps coming, on the other side of the coin though, be challenging and throw a insult and i get off hard on putting you in your place, with my cock, and im probably more into the Petplay(as Sub)/Hunter-Prey(as Dom) spectrum then the Dad-Son one.

>>8423345
I'm an mtf, my dad has always been incredibly distant, alcoholic, workaholic, and un-trusting of me. So essentially I was starved of fatherly attention. He also just generally didn't give a shit when I was suicidally depressed throughout my childhood.

Way I see it though, it's no big deal. It's all in the past. And on the upside, I'm really sensitive to that sort of paternal affection, so that only really makes my relationships in adult life more wonderful. I've got a guy right now who loves to give me headpats and call me a good girl and things, and it all feels really healthy because we have a good base already. It works for me

>>8434056
>solo trips abroad to buy candy
wut
this nigga love kindereggs that much?!

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>>8434622
To put it simple, yes, yes he did went on trips like twice a year (usually Germany) and got several duffel-bags full of sweets, and i should note, the candy was for him only and not the family as a whole and was locked in a cabinet only he had the key to.

And during family dinners? he would shame us how much the food cost and we should be grateful for him for feeding us, no second portions for anyone but him and he took shit off our plates if we were "too slow" and loads of "YOU GONNA GET FAT" remarks.

Despite this he wasn't actually all THAT fat himself more "stocky", he was basically like a IRL non-furry version of Artichoke form Buddy Thunderstruck, i know he definitely intimidated people into silence about how the household was "ruled" which is why he got away with so much shit, as noted the Divorce only happened because HE wanted it, it really did a number on him though, turned out mom actually grew a spine and demanded child support.