/bigen/ Bisexual General

I dont need love and acceptance from internet strangers, I learned how to BEE myself a long time ago.

Like FUCK you dont know me! How can you say you "love" me when you don't even know me? People who say stuff like this don't even know what love means or why its meaningful. "Love" means I have someone to look after me if I end up poor or old or crazy. It's just not a feel-good word you can pop into your OP.

>>8407089
>tfw actually learning how to bee myself and it's working
/fit/ told me that if I told grills I was bi they would just think I want to get fucked by chad(I'm a top anyways) but the qts I told honestly did not seem to care at all. If anything they liked me more for being honest.

What if I'm physically attracted to just one sex but romantically attracted to just the other?

"Love" divorced from any personal connection isn't "feel good" at all! At best its fake as hell and worse, its creepy/rapist as shit.

>>8407105
I love everyone lad. Why is love only supposed to be restricted to those who happen to be close to us? If it feels good to love things, then I wanna love as many things as possible.

>>8407114

Give yourself a prize for being a cool snowflake.

>>8407123

Nah bs you don't love everyone unless you have some way watered down idea of love, in which case you put your friends&family on the same exact tier as internet strangers who you've never even met. Ick.

>>8407140
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wu4H-d_kAI&
I love you my dude.

>>8407080
Bi life is awesome. I have a boyfriend, and yet I can still string girls along by flirting with them and letting them think I want them, while I'm only really stringing them along to keep them as eyecandy.

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>tfw you don't know if it's a boy or a girl that is going to share your bed in the future

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Whenever I reveal that I have gay fantasies and may be bi I always get pressured to go full gay when I really don't want to, I'd much rather be with a girl.

What was your first bi experience was like and how old? I am 18 and met some dude online both my age. We were sexting a bit. He calls me "honey,baby" shit. I dont like looking feminen,but id take the D aynways. He asks me to come over his town(an hour ride). I am not just sure. Am i doing right or this is completely wrong

I feel like I can fuck a guy in the arse and all that and it's fine, but kissing is weird, and I can't really connect in a romantic way.

am I just straight but fucked up from watching gay pron? sex with dudes is ok, but I just want to leave asap after it

How can I appear cute to men but manly to women at the same time

>>8409804
As a guy I pretty much gotta do the same thing around gays.

>Derailed on the first post
And I thought this was the cool board.
>>8408940
And who's doing the pressuring? Hopefully not the straights because, no joke no bullshit, most really are too dumb to grasp the concept.
>>8407262
>tfw there's always the possibility of both and yet the current reality is neither

Is it easier to date men or women, as a bi man?

>>8411352
Men. By a long way.

>>8411381
How so?

>>8411384
Women are way into mindgames, and think that sex is something to be kept away from men at any opportunity.

Men want to fuck, and aren't afraid to tell you.

>>8409825
look fem, act masc

>>8411401
i think youre just looking for a sex craving neanderthal or something, not everybody is going to want sex as often as you want it

some girls have no problem just fucking like animals whenever you want, some guys just want to lay in bed and not use their cocks
it can go either way, think

maybe in the general sense men though, i dont know

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>>8407080
Daily reminder that bisexuals harm homosexuals probably more than heterosexuals do, and that they should have no place in our community.

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>>8412350
well, we are the master race after all.

where is "bisexual = sociopath" meme beggings?

this fags says there's a study but i find nothing and probably is jsut trolling like you. :^)

https://www.datalounge.com/thread/18819893

>>8407114
You can still be considered bisexual since you're attracted to both genders one way or another

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>>8407080
Greetings /bigen/. First time /lgbt/ lurker and poster here hoping you guys can help me figure myself out by answering afew questions.

What is the practical difference between someone who is bi-curious and someone who is bi-sexual?
Can a bi-sexual be a bi-sexual without having had sexual activity with members of both sexes?

I feel a sexual attraction to both men and women to varying degrees and both have a place in my fap sessions & fantasies. Channeling my attraction into pursuit feels second nature to me where woman go. I've had my share of short term partners and long term girlfriends. Romantically I want the ring and kids life when that time comes but I've also been diamonds over the idea of toping and versing since I hit puberty.
That said, I don't feel that same need or urgency to turn my desires into acts with guys and I'm really not even sure why. I've had some pretty hot times online with males and sneak in some bro sexting when able; but I've never had the slightest inclination to physically act on my sexual attraction to men in day to day life.
What's the disconnect here? Why can't I chase bros even though I've been wanting to penetrate one for ages? I've been feeling a growing curiousity and I know my taste swing both ways. The body is more than willing but the spirit seems weak. What's going on here?
Curious *rimshot* to know your thoughts on this folks.

>What's the disconnect here?
That first question u can just google don't be lazy

>Why can't I chase bros even though I've been wanting to penetrate one for ages?
Social guilt. You've been learned by society that gay = wrong. So instinctively you're not going to chase a men bc (deep) inside u feel like it's wrong when it isn't.

?I've been feeling a growing curiousity and I know my taste swing both ways. The body is more than willing but the spirit seems weak. What's going on here?
You're a big baby thats scared of the consequences of actually trying it but your body still wants it. Nothing bad is gonna happen just try it.

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>8412350
Daily reminder that you need to get the fuck out of here.

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>tfw bi men are supposed to be heart breakers but I've only ever had my heart broken

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>>8413332
>what is the practical practical difference
>That first question u can just google don't be lazy
Goggle will give me a generic definition. Where on goggle do I search to get a no bs, honest take on bicuriousity and bisexuality from bisexuals? All ears here.
I don't have anything for your other point tho. There may be some social stigmas mixed in, true.

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>in high school had a few crushes on girls
>it was always "I want to spend our lives together and marry", not sexual desire
>never cared enough to act on it because I thought it'd quickly go away (which it did)
>grown up in christian family since I was young enough to accept it without question
>huge amount of guilt surrounding anything remotely sexual
>was once told off for looking up pictures of genitals on wikipedia just to know what they looked like
>never used porn to masturbate
>if thinking of anything, it's guys masturbating - because 'sex is off limits and it's disrespectful to think of girls'
>fully aware of the blatant double standard and lack of logic but going against it makes me feel guilty
>friends thought I might be asexual
>started considering it but never being sure enough to commit to the label
>realizing I've been in denial about feeling sexually attracted to guys, always tried to explain it away or tell myself it's not sexual when it actually was
>still don't fully understand what sexual attraction is, not sure that I've ever felt it for a girl
>clinging onto the hope that I might be bi and not full gay so I don't have to destroy the family

Is sexual attraction a conscious "I can visualize having sex with that person and I find it arousing", or is it just about arousal in general?

>>8413368
Yeep. Sure is a loooot of fun when you get rejected in favor a girl and then a straight guy, one right after the other. Amirite?

>always been bi
>dated girls
>looking into boys
One night stands disgust me. I need affection and blossoming romance to be happy with someone. Girls are /probably/ better for real dating but holy shit do I want a boyfriend.
Also I never tell anyone my sexuality. Do people think I'm gay? Probably. Maybe not.

>>8414889
>dated girls
>Do people think I'm gay?
You'd have to be extra flamboyant for people to think you're gay if they know you've dated girls

>>8414889
>One night stands disgust me. I need affection and blossoming romance to be happy with someone

I'm so conflicted desu
I always thought I felt the same way (and I still do about women), but I've been thinking about what it'd be like to have sex with a guy - yet at the same time I can't see myself in a long term relationship with a guy because of all the consequences coming out would have on my family. So if I was ever going to be sexual with a guy it'd be in an emotionless type setting which I never thought I'd be okay with and I'm still not sure about

>>8414920
>all the consequences coming out would have on my family
My family is accepting even though they're conservative.
I'd much rather warm up to passionate sex and hold hands in public desu.

>>8414926
My family aren't just conservative, they're religious too
I grew up with it and basically up until college took it all as fact and never questioned it
Since I still live with them I still go to church ever week, and church-related people make up at least 80-90% of the people I know. And they wouldn't accept a homosexual relationship.
I don't think my parents would go full angry "god hates fags", but they'd still be pretty upset both with me and themselves (since they'd take it as a failure on their part that they couldn't impart their beliefs onto me). Perhaps even scared in the sense that they would suddenly feel like they don't know me at all and wouldn't know where everything 'went wrong'.
Considering that at the moment the relationship with them is civil, they're nice to me and there's no fighting, it feels like such a waste to destroy that. I've never been able to talk to my family about personal emotional stuff, but I'd take that over fighting and a general depressive environment

>>8414939
I won't recommend coming out of the closet if it lowers your quality of life.
I'm waiting to get my education back on track for a career before I ever take a boyfriend home. My family will be proud of me but my secret reward will be going on bica once school starts.

>>8414951
>bica
???

>>8414964
I would direct you to /hrt/ gen but it's disappeared.
It's this neat expensive androgen blocker that doesn't actually lower your test but it interferes with some chemistry. It makes your skin soft and /eventually/ gives you girl body hair. No going sterile or anything. A lot of femboys take it with other stuff but I don't need titties or osteoporosis or that shit.

>>8414982
>girl body hair
as in shit like chest/facial hair goes away?

>>8415006
mhmmm
I could shave my legs every other week instead of every other day.

>tfw only like grills and azns

Getting laid is such a struggle.

What do you guys think of bisexual women?
Personally, I don't even think they're in the same realm as bi guys

>>8415057
>bi women
I don't like threesomes, so meh

>>8415057
My only experience with a bi girl is when my best friend dated one for a short time.
She went away for a week with her childhood best friend and was distant afterwards, and wouldn't tell him what was going on. After like 2 weeks of him being super insecure and stressed out from the lack of contact she called him and said that she realized she loved her friend and they shouldn't be together
He took it alright, perhaps in part because he had two weeks thinking about how it wasn't working. But even still that was a pretty rough time for him since he's super self conscious and insecure (the 'sends essays about how something's making him feeling' kind) and he's learning to not be so clingy

He's got another gf now like half a year later and it's a much better relationship, as far as I know she's just straight

Not that that really answers your question much. I don't want to stereotype and assume that relationships with bi girls can't work out

>>8415091
>he's super self conscious and insecure (the 'sends essays about how something's making him feeling' kind) and he's learning to not be so clingy
Damn, this is me to a T.

>>8407080
TFW handsome bi man who hasn't had sex in a year and is holding out for a good gf

TFW that doesn't make me any less bi

>>8407114
heterosexual and homoromantic or homosexual and heteroromantic

>>8413229
>What is the practical difference between someone who is bi-curious and someone who is bi-sexual?
do you *think* you're attracted to both, or have you actually been aroused by both genders?

>>8414558
honestly, your emotions might be too under pressure to be sure.
if i absolutely had to guess, you're a repressed, late blooming bisexual with unresolved sexual guilt due to your upbringing. it's not uncommon for heterosexual men to fantasize about a future with a woman, and even in the stages of development before sexual desire begins there can be a natural desire to be with/near women.
you've never used porn to masturbate, which in my opinion likely stems from either low libido (the pent up energy is what gets a lot of dudes to do stupid shit) and shame since most kids seek it out regardless.
since you feel guilt over objectifying women, AND guilt for being attracted to men, you could have subconsciously suppressed your entire sexuality. you were ordered and likely shamed into not objectifying/pursuing women, so there could have been a dichotomy set up in your mind. "i'm not allowed to be with women right now, so i can't go after one. but i also like men, and that makes me gay which is wrong."
starting from a place of guilt vs ending up at one through exploration.
i'd recommend a real therapist tho

>>8416994
Those are basically all the conclusions I've come to desu, especially the part about not being in the mental state to know for sure. It feels like my conscious thoughts don't match how I'm feeling, and my primitive understanding of psychology is that there are so many things that influence our thought process that I don't trust it at all. I'm considering therapy and the one friend I've talked to this about suggested it too, I think a part of what's making me hesitant about it is if my parents manage to find out I was going and question me on it.

Regarding masturbating, I still do it 2-5 times a week. So I'm not sure if that would actually count as low libido. But there's definitely a lot of shame and guilt when it comes to what I think about. Sometimes I don't need to think about anything sexual at all, and I'm just thinking of random normal shit like what I plan to do today. And it doesn't affect my ability to finish or anything.

Do you have an answer to what I asked at the end? I'd like to here what you think

What is sexual attraction? Is it when you are able to visualize physical, sexual interactions with someone and that gives you an erection? Or is it just getting aroused by them in any capacity? Is there a meaningful distinction between finding something arousing and finding something sexually attractive?

In the ace threads I looked through at one point they had the idea that arousal and sexual attraction were two different things - ie it was possible for them to get aroused by things, but if it wasn't paired with a conscious desire to want to fuck someone then it wasn't sexual attraction and they were still ace. I don't know if that definition is backed up by anyone with authority though. I'm still not entirely convinced that asexuality is a widely accepted thing since the main psych manual only makes one passing mention of it in the newest edition, which most psychs disregard for getting too influenced by politics and drug companies

>>8407080
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxmPiEvwTxg

>>8407080
thank you <3

>>8417400
too much to read

Friendly reminder that there is a bisexual discord server


https://discord.gg/JHgVtFu

If dubs I come out to my friemds and family

>>8419262
is there any point of coming out before you're in a relationship?

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>Self made millonarie
>fucked his teacher with 15 years
>built his own party
>wins a election being a centrist destroying the old parties and the populist from the right and the left
>youngest french president
>now his party has an overwhelming majority in the parliament
>since a vast majority of the folks elected on his party arent carrer politicans they have a very high level of loyalty towards him
>and bisexual

how a single man can be so based? is true that only a bisexual can be this based?

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>>8421352
he's probably from a very wealthy family
behind every successful man there are many powerful people helping him to advance their agenda
i doubt it is just because he's horny and likes wet holes of either sex

>>8419265
Hardly, imo

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>tfw no dom gf that likes ordering me to choke on chad's cock

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>>8412350
D E L E T
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>>8412350
>when you make rash generalizations about a group you don't understand

>>8421352
10 bucks says he has had a 3some with his wife and his long time friend from school (her son)

>tfw no cute twinks to fuck my ass and mouth and clear up any questions i might have about my sexuality by double creampieng me like a little bicurious cumslut

why? my bi friend figured out her sexuality at 12 why is it taking me so long?

>>8425011
Because you're trapped in repression and self-denial and you probably live in a shit area for casual sex.

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>>8412350
>bisexuals harm homosexuals probably more than heterosexuals do
Delusional.

>that image
>implying bisexuals aren't attracted to the primary sexual characteristics of both sexes

>>8425038
I'm exclusively attracted to effeminate men

Why do I despise so much bi men who bottom to gays? I'm mostly top (90%) but the whole sissy/submissive state of mind for some bi guys is pathetic: fuck all these straight guys who only want to be fucked ("I can't kiss guys but love suck cocks lol"). They literally fetishize gays.

>>8425810
bait

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>>8425810
What's the problem with being someone's fetish? Had a threesome with a guy who I'm pretty sure identified as gay but was ONLY into being used and fucked. He was totally against being pleasured himself (slight turn off for me, I like getting the bottom off) but it seemed like it's just his shtick.

>>8425109
So, you're gay?

>>8427282
regarding men, silly

>>8427310
So, you're straight?

>>8427033
it's just that I think being bi without having romantic interaction with same-sex partners is retarded: dating, kissing, cuddling a guy is so much more interesting than just being used like a cumpdump.
I noticed that I lot of old guys (+30yo) are into that: married, 90% straight, but love to suck a cock once in a while etc. It's just a kink, not really bisexuality in their case.

#trubi

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>>8408965
GO GET THAT DICK NIGGA

>>8412350
Fuck you. Bisexuals are the only groups still oppressed in the western, most of the time by fucks like you, who exclude and alienate us.

>>8407163
hey man its cool, you keep doing you. the world would be better if everyone just loved one another.

>>8427946
The bait is that you apparently think bi bottoms don't like kissing, which is idiotic and simply not true

>>8427977
asexuals are oppressed in that most people don't even believe it's a real thing

>>8427995
because it's not a real thing

>>8427977
Is this true? I'm bi but I haven't really come out and haven't had any experiences with guys.
>>8427986
This, and if someone is bottom wouldn't they especially like cuddling?

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>>8407080
I wish I was more of a nongender boi like this guy

ever since puberty

/bi/master race here.

I think we have more of a claim than transgender when it comes to the GLBT group.

>>8428123
I still don't understand why gender semantic shit is in an alliance of sexualities

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Join us, we have porn and memes
https://discord.gg/vREXFqz

>>8415057
Pretty chill, I know a few.

>>8428023
Certainly the most discriminated group from within the LGBT community itself. And if not that, just flat out ignored. t. straights don't usually care at all, though.

>>8407080
I am Bi.

People would say if your dating a person of the same gender, "Oh your gay now?."
or if your dating somone of the opposite gender they say "Oh, your straight now?"


I have never been in a relationship with anyone.
using that logic does that mean im asexual?

Fuck no.

if trips ill shout out in school that i am bi.

>>8429018
>I have never been in a relationship with anyone.
using that logic does that mean im asexual?
This logic does not worth with any side except other asexuals. From the straight side: "you're gay". From the gay side: dunno. From the bi side: "you're straight"
>>8429027
Good thing that failed, cause you just dodged a major bullet of embarrassment and awkwardness

>>8429027
What compelled you to post this in the first place?
Why do you feel compelled to tell anyone? Why are you wanting to aimlessly shout for attention?

>>8428111
he is a boi (female) or a boi (male)

>>8413229
>>8429018
no experiences? you're bicurious

>>8430144
that's like saying you're gaycurious if you have no interest in girls but haven't fucked a guy yet

>>8430149
i'm sexualcurious!

if you fucked someone but wished you didn't, does that make you asexualcurious?

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>>8429709
a boi (male)

>>8407080
Why is the flag not just red, purple, blue. Why does it have to be pink and some stupid violet bullshit. So annoying.

If dubs I'll ask the guy who I have a crush on if he's interested.
Also, newfag here. Bis seem to be treated like garbage for some reason, even moreso than trans. Why?

>>8431906
Memes.

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>>8431933
So it's a board meme to shit on bis (and aces seemingly)? So, not only does society hate them/refuse to even believe they're real but so does their/our own cancerous little clique?
Well, back to my autistic containment boards I guess.

>>8431889
pink is for girls
blue is for boys
violet is for the muddied confluence

>>8425038
>Delusional.

It wasn't a heterosexual that almost drove me to suicide. It was a bisexual that I loved and trusted. You people have zero respect for homosexuals and treat us like garbage. You can all fuck off.

>>8431906
>Why?
Because they can't "make up their minds" and so they are seen as unreliable cheaters who enjoy breaking hearts.

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>>8407080
Bisexual people are people; people in hell.

>>8431906
>>Bis seem to be treated like garbage for some reason, even moreso than trans. Why?

For example? Bi people have so many other channels and access to spaces it's ridiculous. They are over privileged and get off shitting on gay folk.

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>>8432054
I'm not the only one? It feels fucking horrible sometimes, I'm still struggling with it and I have a lot of other important shit going on right now to deal with it. What am I even supposed to find attractive in a guy? If they're handsome? Charming? Dick? Chest? Ass? I get hard but I'm not sure at what. Is it all of those? I think it is, maybe? Do I even like women? I'd rather get bent and suck dick than fuck some pussy right now. But I used to be so scared of being gay and I'd hate objectifying people so I'd only jerk it to hentai or fantasies of women. Rarely fucking them, mainly just their bodies. The only crush I have is for a guy, also. Do I want to become a woman? I always adored the idea but fuck transitioning and I can never overwrite my DNA or change my genitals beyond cosmetics. Am I just a degenerate with a fetish? Am I lying to myself and somehow made all the past experiences and thoughts up in my head so my dull life could be fulfilled and I could get brownie points? But I've always been kinda bi, and a bit femme in my mannerisms, but does that even mean anything? What will my family, peers and friends think?


What even am I anymore? Should I just kill myself?

I don't know a lot about this kind of thing so i need degenerates who are more versed on these kind of topics to help me out

I've been straight all my life having 0 interest in men but recently i fucked a crossdresser (i don't know what the hell he's supposed to be but i call him that) out of desperation and i definitely liked it but i saw him as a woman the whole duration, also i've started fapping to traps and shemales. I don't like dicks/balls or any kind of masculinity and i also have no interest on being a bottom whatsoever. I see the "men" i fap to as women not men and i still prefer women over any "men" (trap, shemale) any day. Am i bisexual or is there any other word for this?
I don't feel comfortable calling myself bisexual because it implies a duality like i like both sexes equally and this is not the case at all

Sorry if this is considered off-topic i don't post here often other than the occasional shitpost in lesbian threads

>>8432041
>impying gay people and straight people are not also attracted to other people while in a monogamous relationship

Sure, bisexuals have more *opportunity* to cheat, but that doesn't make bisexuals cheaters.

>>8432158
Why accept the added risk?

>>8432140
What a difficult struggle!
I must be so hard to be able to date anyone, literally anyone at all.
You poor soul!

>>8432179
There is no risk of cheating at all, whatever the potential opportunity for cheating, if he is a person you can trust. Finding that person and convincing him to date you is the tricky part.

>>8432142
You fucked a crossdresser and we're the degenerates?

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>>8432189
Here's your (You).


pic unrelated

>>8432220
Is it wrong? It was not romantic or anything he just let me use him
I know that by now i'm a degenerate too but you have more experience in that so i would like your opinion on this

>>8432207
safer to date a fellow homo imo

>>8432273
Some homosexuals are cheaters and some are not.

Some bisexuals are cheaters and some are not.

You should be people for a guy who is trustworthy and attracted to you. Whether he is gay or bi would be irrelevant if you were clever enough to understand that you must judge each new person in your life individually from a clean slate.

>>8432260
I'm not a degenerate. I'm a normal masculine guy who fucks other normal masculine guys. I'm not interested in effeminate perverts who dress up like women. That's you.

>>8432288
>I'm not a degenerate
>/lgbt/

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

LOL!

enjoy aids

>>8432288
>I'm a normal masculine guy who fucks other normal masculine guys.
That's not normal at all. In normal sex there's an alpha and a beta, masculinity and femininity, north pole and south pole: opposites. This is beauty
Look back at the Romans, when the manly soldiers had sex with other men it was not with their fellow masculine soldiers but with the lady-like boys who liked it up the ass
>>8432320
No aids for me it's not like i have sex often it was just that one time, also condoms

>>8432333
>he believes sex is /r9k/ memes

loooooooool this is what happens when a desperate """"straight"""" dude fucks a twink in a dress: he thinks he's homo casanova now LOL

>>8432341
What the fuck are you talking about? I was just inquiring about what would be a fitting word to label my sexual preference

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>>8432285
>Whether he is gay or bi would be irrelevant

In theory this might seem truthful.
But in practice "bisexual" is just something people say when they are gay and closeted or they are straight but want to fuck around.
If you really wanted to be faithful to another man why not just tell him you're gay?
Why would you say "I love you and only want to be with you but I'm attracted to other people who don't even share your biological sex"?

It is a dumb thing to do, and it doesn't promote trust.

If you're attracted to a woman and you want to have children with her, telling her that you can't stop thinking about having a guy dump his load in your ass is not going to make her think you'll be a good dad.
She's probably going to be afraid you'll get aids and so she'll just dump you.

Outing yourself as bisexual is counterproductive.
It serves no purpose other than to say "look at me, i'm a special snowflake like all the other faggots in the gay pride parade!"

If you really want a monogamous relationship then date whomever you want and then be monogamous with them.

Telling them you're bisexual, like telling them you're a meth addict, is just going to put them off.

>>8432402
G A Y

A

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GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

YOU FUCK MEN LOL

>>8432333
>In normal sex there's an alpha and a beta, masculinity and femininity, north pole and south pole: opposites.

This is pure hetero mindset. You can call yourself bisexual if you want, but I don't see how you're not just straight with a fetish.

>>8432333
>I have this idea of what all sexual relations are? should be? supposed to be? like
>I base this idea off my personal fantasy of what Romans probably did

WEW

>>8432417
>"bisexual" is just something people say when they are gay and closeted or they are straight but want to fuck around
Wrong. Those people do exist of course, and there are those who claim to be bisexual purely for attention (usually promiscuous young women)... but there are people genuinely attracted to both sexes. I am one of those people. Believe me, I am old enough to know what gets my own dick up.

>Outing yourself as bisexual is counterproductive
I was miserable when I was in the closet. I am never going back.

>Telling them you're bisexual, like telling them you're a meth addict, is just going to put them off
I wouldn't want to date someone who thought that way of bisexuals anyhow.

>>8432458
>I was miserable when I was in the closet. I am never going back

What does coming out feel like? I've only told two close friends and I'm still a little bit conflicted to be completely sure I'm bi, but I believe I am. Is there any point?

>>8432428
There are homosexuals who think of sex that way too.

The philosophy is best summed up by the saying, "Someone has to lift a leg, someone has to squat."

>>8432417
THIS.

Why can't bisexuals just identify with the sexuality of their partner? If you're in a homosexual relationship, you're effectively homosexual. Retaining the bi label is literally signaling that you're keeping your options open. It's disrespectful to your partner and undermines confidence in the relationship.

>>8432497
>What does coming out feel like?
It felt awesome to me. I guess how happy the occasion will be will depend on the reactions of your family and friends - but even though some reacted poorly to me, I just felt so relieved to be out, once I got out.

>I'm still a little bit conflicted to be completely sure I'm bi, but I believe I am. Is there any point?
I wouldn't come all the way out until you're sure of it, desu. You don't want to suffer potential negative consequences for nothing. Any particular reason you can't figure out whether you're really? Does your sexuality lean more toward men or women at all? (Kinsey scale?)

>>8432519
>Retaining the bi label is literally signaling that you're keeping your options open
That's ridiculous. Bisexuals don't stop being bisexual while in a homosexual relationship. If the gay partner is so insecure about the relationship that the bisexual needs to pretend to no longer be attracted to the opposite sex, the homosexual probably won't be trusting the bisexual around the same sex either, because there is no trust to begin with.

>>8432428
It's really odd how i can't call myself bisexual because i don't like men (only when they look like women) and the attraction is not equal in the slightest but i also can't call myself straight because i put my penis in other men's anuses
I coined the terms "hyper-straight", "alphasexual" and "femsexual" but i know they sound retarded so i don't actually use them. I've been called "breeder" but it doesn't sound like a real word to me just like the ones i made
>>8432444
It's not "my fantasies about the Romans", i'm a philosopher and i see things from a very different perspective to you. I see the essence of existence, the origin of beauty and the archetype's presence on everything while you see everything from a sociopolitcal perspective

>>8432541
>I see the essence of existence, the origin of beauty and the archetype's presence on everything
kek

kys m8

>>8432506
If you're attracted to femininity, you're not homosexual. End of story.

>>8432417
>"If you really wanted to be faithful to another man why not just tell him you're gay?"

>"If you really loved him, why wouldn't you just lie to him for years about one of your most defining characteristics?"

Respect? Trust? Honesty? Love? So many reasons.

>>8432541
>It's not "my fantasies about the Romans", i'm a philosopher and i see things from a very different perspective to you. I see the essence of existence, the origin of beauty and the archetype's presence on everything while you see everything from a sociopolitcal perspective
who are you talking to? do we know eachother?

literally not an argument to be honest

>"I see things this way so they must be this way"

very silly of you

I'm not bi but I actively seek bisexual people because I assume they're more likely to be okay with me since I'm ftm. What are your guys' thoughts on this as a dating strategy?

>>8432602
Pretty savvy of you, to be desu.

>>8432601
>>"I see things this way so they must be this way"
>very silly of you
Very intelligent of me
As a philosopher i must be completely certain of what i speak until i am corrected, then i would change my mind accordingly but until that happens everything i say is right
I don't expect you to understand concepts like these, it's probably too complicated for you

>>8431995
>So it's a board meme to shit on bis (and aces seemingly)?
No, it's a gay culture meme in general.

>>8432528
If you're in a homosexual relationship, you're having that aspect of your sexuality fulfilled but not the other. Your partner would be absolutely justified in feeling anxious about your interaction with the opposite sex.

>>8432629
how about you're convincing nobody and are only shitposting

would you disprove that?

>>8432657
>you're having that aspect of your sexuality fulfilled but not the other
It just doesn't work like that. Bisexuals can be completely sexually fulfilled in a monogamous sexual relationship, just like a homosexual or heterosexual.

The homo or hetero in a fulfilling sexual relationship is still attracted to other people of the corresponding sex. Bisexuals are still attracted to other people, of both sexes. This doesn't mean a bisexual can't resist the temptation just as homos and heteros do.

There can be no true loving relationship without trust though.

>>8432709
>Bisexuals can be completely sexually fulfilled in a monogamous sexual relationship

Why insist on identifying as bisexual when in a relationship then?

>>8432776
Because why would lie to people and say you're gay/het when you're not? What's the point?

>>8432776
Like I said before.

>If the gay partner is so insecure about the relationship that the bisexual needs to pretend to no longer be attracted to the opposite sex, the homosexual probably won't be trusting the bisexual around the same sex either, because there is no trust to begin with.

Besides, being bisexual is one of my most defining characteristics. I can't have a fulfilling, loving sexual relationship built on trust if I'm lying to my partner about that.

>>8432801
Well, a lot of us are "insecure" about that tbph. Being left for a woman is pretty much the nightmare scenario. If bi guys are serious about relationships, they should consider this.

>>8432797
But you are gay/het.
That's the point.

>>8432849
>Well, a lot of us are "insecure" about that tbph. Being left for a woman is pretty much the nightmare scenario. If bi guys are serious about relationships, they should consider this.
Perhaps you should consider that expecting your partner to pretend not to be attracted to other people for the sake of your insecurity is maybe just a little bit insane.

>>8432898
>"I know what turns you on better than you do!"
kek, gr8 b8 m8

>>8432915
>gr8 b8

being attracted to men if you are male is gay
being attracted to women if you are male is het

what part of this don't you understand?
being bi = being gay AND being straight at the same time

you're not some special otherkin category

>>8432928
gay guys aren't attracted to women

straight guys aren't attracted to men

bisexuality is not being both at once, it is being neither

it is a special category with its own special letter in the acronym whether you like it or not :^)

>>8408965
my first experience was molesting my friend in 2nd grade

its why i love blonde women probably

>>8432928
>being bi = being gay AND being straight at the same time
not in common usage

if you say you are gay even though you are bi, people will consider that lying

>>8432937
>bisexuality is being neither

no, that is asexuality.
you are confused or in denial

>>8432958
>"asexuality"
Doesn't even exist

>you are confused
Actually you are the one confused here

>>8432958
"neither" doesn't mean they can't have any common qualities you dummy

>>8432965
>"bisexuality"
Doesn't even exist

>>8433004
There are many examples of bisexuals throughout history, from Alexander the Great of the ancient world's battlefields to Freddy Mercury of the hit rock band, Queen.

"Asexuals"? Not so much. Because it's a tumblr meme.

>>8433036
you have to remember that personal feelings didn't really matter throughout history

an asexual would have had a family like anyone else since that's what everyone was supposed to do

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexuality#Research

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>>8433036
>Alexander the Great was bisexual

He was gay.
He left behind no children and was never connected romantically to any female.

But I see your point since bisexuals are just closeted fags.
Except that Alexander wasn't closeted.
So, no, he wasn't "bisexual".

>>8433600
>bisexuals are just closeted fags
I wish

then I could just say "I'm gay" and everyone would know the drill

>>8433600
>He was gay.
He was bi.

>He left behind no children
His wife was infertile.

>was never connected romantically to any female
By all accounts he was fully into his wife. (Which makes his affair with his right-hand man especially scandalous)

>I see your point since bisexuals are just closeted fags
kys

>>8433625
>I could just say "I'm gay" and everyone would know the drill

What's stopping you from saying that, exactly?
Straight women are always trying to convert gay guys so it wouldn't stop you from fucking women any more than saying you're bisexual.

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>>8433719
That would be deceitful. Have you no honour, sir?

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>>8433682
>His wife was infertile.
yeah,, because he never unloaded in her.
straight guys, especially then, will keep fucking women until they get a son and heir.
see Henry VIII

>by all accounts
except the only one that matters: children

he was definitely a gay man

stop trying to steal our history, bi-freaks.

next you're going to be telling us that oscar wilde and paul lynde were bi!

>>8433746
but you are gay in that you like to have gay sex.
just because you also like to have straight sex doesn't negate the fact that you like to have gay sex.
it isn't being deceitful if it is true.
and don't question my honour, ma'am.

>>8433788
being gay != having gay sex

>>8432320

You don't get AIDs if you're not promiscuous (I.E., degenerate).

>>8434792
tell that to the monogamous partners of cheaters.

>>8434792
It's a matter of statistics
The more partners, the more likely one of them has aids
That doesn't mean that if you have just one partner it's impossible for them to get aids

>>8434877

Tell that to The Kanji Klub.

>>8433036
I don't think Alexander nor Freddy where Bi. Eaither where entirely way to famous to not have their names out there with women.

>>8435485
Wasn't Freddy openly bi?

>>8435521
I've always known of him as gay, but that could just be because culture has simplified it to "likes guys = gay"

>>8435529
I googled it. He had both heterosexual and homosexual relations, so likely he was bi, but he never confirmed it either way himself. If you look at some of his lyrics and music videos though, he seems to hint at this. Particularly in "Don't Stop Me Now", "I Want to Break Free" and "Bohemian Rhapsody"

>>8435553
>Particularly in "Don't Stop Me Now", "I Want to Break Free" and "Bohemian Rhapsody"
How so?

>>8435556
I won't spoil it for you

Go listen and decide for yourself

>>8433036
How do you feel about greys? Just depressed bisexuals? What about the split attraction model?

>>8435596
>implying anyone living in the first world hasn't heard all three of those tracks a 1000 times over

just tell us faggot queen is the most overplayed band of all time

>>8435553
..........dude was way to famous for that. If anything the gay rumours should have been just that.

He was one of the biggest names in music. If he was Bi AND single why wouldn't he have pussy when ever he wanted. Why not even a few sluts ?
Why would the girls ever be secret ?

Being bicurious for years now ,but never tried male. Is it a good idea to try it now with Grindr ? Will it clarify my mind or is it stupid ?

>>8435841
Is it a big deal if you're actually bi or not?

>>8435849
It wasn't but with the time it start to be frustrating to don't know. And as I had many gf it never really work that much in bed so I'm kinda lost and would like to be fixed

>>8435841
Depends if you're into meaningless hookups or not

>>8435841
Prepare yourself. Grindr is full of scum, like tindr.
Also, get lube and a toy to practice with if you ever want to bottom.

>>8435857
well for all you or anyone else knows you could not enjoy being with 100 guys but then #101 comes along and it's your soul mate

personally I don't find there's a huge difference between a sexual encounter with a guy and a sexual encounter with a girl besides obvious mechanical differences

>>8435862
what's it like to date boys and girls so rapidly?
I have a relationship once in a blue moon and it's always either really good or really bad..

>>8435553
>>8435596
>He had both heterosexual and homosexual relations, so likely he was bi, but he never confirmed it either way himself.

Freddie tried to have relationships with a couple females, but they didn't work out. He considered one woman his best friend, and effectively his common law wife. He left the majority of his estate to her. He only felt sexual and romantic feelings for men.

"Don't Stop Me Now" You do realize that artists change genders in songs so they would be better liked by the audience?

"Bohemian Rhapsody" is from when he first started having male lovers.

"I Want to Break Free" was written by John Deacon, not Freddie.

>>8435782
>If he was Bi AND single why wouldn't he have pussy when ever he wanted.
Well, he did go after boipussy.

>>8435765
Queen has spent more weeks at the top of the British charts than The Beatles did.

>>8435841
If you find somebody you love or really like well, then try it out. Random hookups can fail in odd ways, and you still may not know.

>>8435888
like dating just girls rapidly or just boys rapidly I imagine

Do you find that guys and girls want different things out of relationships, or is it more subjective and personal than being able to generalize based on sex?

>>8407080
How bout liking traps and women? I'm okay for this community? Or I'm not?

>>8413229

> difference between bi-sexual and bi-curious.
Do you like same gender people? Do you fap to gay porn? Or you just don't know and someone of your same gender comes and ask you for casual sex in the proper place at the proper time you wouldn't say no? There is a difference between liking something and just having some curiosity, it's like being a scientist and reading national geographic.

>Can a bi-sexual be a bi-sexual without having had sexual activity with members of both sexes?

Can you be heterosexual without having touched a girl ever? Sexual orientation is not a "to-do" list.

Usually the disconnection comes from society. Family, TV, books and everything pushes you to live in the perfect family model (house, wife, kids and pet), and most of us end up absorbing it. In my case I had 2 long term girlfriends, some short term girlfriends, 1 very short term boyfriend and some casual relationships with men. And it's because I still feel "guilty" for being attracted to men and shameful for showing it in public, specially to my family, since my mother considers it "a disgrace".

Try to stop thinking about it and give it a try, meet some nice boy on the internet and try some romance, everything else will come with time.

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never had a boyfriend or girlfriend before, for some odd reason now i have a chance to start dating both, do i perpetuate biscum stereotypes and keep both around or just focus on one.

id really like to fall in love though and i dont think id have room in my heart for both..or do i.. what do

>>8435961
straight love first
opposite sex are harder to court than same sex if you're a guy

So the idea of dating/loving a man grosses me out, but the idea of being sexually ravished and dominated by a masculine, aggressive figure turns me on. I'm into women but they lack this force of aggressive energy. What do?

>>8436044
kys
you're the kind of people who give a bad name to the (L)B(GT): you just have a kink, that's all.

>>8407080
I am bi and bi people that need costant hugboxing are retards.

>>8412350
>friendly reminder that A bi guy cucked me so now I hate bi people like a little bitch

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>start making ironic gay jokes with a friend
>begin enjoying it more and more
>write more detailed and overt "jokes"
>suddenly I'm thinking about him at night in a way I never have before

We're both "straight" but I think I may be developing some weird feelings. I'm not even doing this out of some weird perversion, I'm not sitting there with erections while writing this stuff to him, I find myself enjoying showing this side of me even if they're "jokes". But lately at night I keep thinking about him and me in a romantic relationship, touching him and letting him fuck me.

Shit.. I thought I just liked traps.

>>8435521
Freddie Mercury was not openly anything. He only revealed he was gay shortly before he died of aids.

>>8436193
>I thought I just liked traps

this is not a thing

>>8407080
You know that stereotype of a Man who's afraid to talk to women because he's attracted to them? Applying that to bisexuals is dangerous.

>>8408965
Had a pull each other's pants down competition with a younger friend when I was like 11. Honestly, it's hard to explain how that situation came to be in the first place.

>>8436584
what's the danger?

>>8408965
I was lying in bed playing video games with a friend in our early teens, he told me he had grown pubes and asked me if I wanted to see them, I said yes and he pulled down his pants and told me I could touch it if I wanted to, so I started rubbing them and cupping his balls and he got hard, so I started jerking him off. He had a really big mushroom cockhead which made the foreskin tight, I paid no mind to that and jerked him off how I jerk myself off and he told me he was too sensitive for it, so I teased him a little and we both kind of giggle. After a little bit we laid down next to each other with our legs intertwined alternating between jerking each other off and jerking ourselves off, for the climax we did the former.

I hadn't thought of this in a long time and how extremely gay that was. But we never did it again and it was never awkward between us after. The concept of even being gay or bi at the time wasn't on either of our minds, so it wasn't even something that came up during or after. That guy is a staunch heterosexual and I consider myself bi, but I definitely did not at the time, wasn't until years later that came to mind.

>>8436701
You don't talk to just about anyone from the anxiety.

>>8436877
well that's already the case for me regardless!

>>8407080
So what other bi things are you?

Biologists?
Bipartisan?
Biased?
Bilingual?
Biatheletes?
Bicyclists?
Bigots?
Bicolors?
Bivalves?
Bitter?
Paid Biweekly?

>>8436977
bitter bilingual bigot

>hadn't pursued any relationship in a long time
>don't like going out much so i don't really meet new people often
>start talking with this cute guy recently
>not sure what his deal is but he seems to like me and is outwardly amorous
>sends me nudes sometimes typical "teehee just shaved" fluff
>like him too but not really sure how to act on it
>been turning down his sexual advances despite that

what the fuck has my dick just been broken all this time? Has it been too long and now I have anxiety?

I'm not a virgin and I masturbate sometimes but the idea of sexual intimacy has me feeling unwell lately.

>too ugly to date women
>too beta to date guys
ha

>>8436977
bitter

>>8437124
Unless you're like a legit 2/10 or have impossibly high standards I don't think you can be "too ugly"

also imo guys are easier because they don't expect as much of you

>>8437133
so you're saying that I can date 1/10 or 2/10 girls and target even more autistic guys than me... thx I guess.

>>8437331
I'm saying the issue is likely your personality more than your looks for both cases.

>>8436977
i want to be bilingual aswell. but i suck at learning a second language.

>>8437355
You just need to practice a little every day, or fully immerse yourself. Also the first one is the hardest. It also helps if you actually use it ever, like if there's a french or spanish population where you live.

>>8436977
Bicyclist, at least occasionally. Definitely bitter, though.

I'm sort of bilingual. I speak english and bad english.

>>8436977
Bihourly Bitter Bilingual Bibliotist

>>8407080
You're still a faggot.

ALL BISEXUALS ARE THE BEST PEOPLE ON THIS COLD PLANET, THERE NEED TO BE MORE OF YOU!!!!! LOVE YOU ALL <3 <3 HAPPY PRIDE, FAMILY!!!!! <3 <3

>>8439592

thanks :)

>>8436977
Forgot to mention Bipolar now that I think of it.

Also, Bilanders, Bilateral, Bicentric, Bimonthly, Biopsy, Biradial, Bizzare, Bifocal, Biplane enthusiast, Bizonal, Bidet users, Bipedal, Biceps, Bisons,Bishops, Birthday celebrators, and other words this scrabble reference is giving me.

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>not interested in sex with a girl outside of a committed emotional relationship
>fine with superficial one night stands with guys
are double standards like this (ie having different needs/wants for the different sexes) normal?

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>>8445290
yes, i can have 1 night stands with both, and have romantic relationships with boths, but i don't see myself having a long romantic relationship with a guy, i see myself with a girl and a family, also, my romance with men is "different" is more related to "friendship", yes is love, but is different to when i feel in love with a woman.

is related to gender i think, i am pretty sure my love for a trans woman would be similar to the love from a woman even if she can't have my bio kids.

>>8441546
<3

>>8445290
normal for a majority of bi guys, and that's mostly why gays hate bisexuals.

>hug best friend
>get boner
>no conscious desire to want to sex him
are love boners a normal thing to get in emotionally close yet non-sexual relationships?

>>8447025
you're just horny, that's all

>>8447169
But does that mean physical contact was the cause of horniness? And does that count as sexual attraction?

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cis lesbian here. I think all the bi hate is ridiculous even with all the "b-but bi people are sloots that carry MSTs and will leave you for the other sex!!1!"
Sexuality is fluid anyway, who cares if someone love one or both? As long as you're not *that* person who goes "I kissed a grill/boi once so i'm totes bi xD".
I don't get why people are so judgemental. I got called bishit for not being goldenstar enough (dated a boy when i was a 13yo, that's it,had a moment of confusion) and liking feminine,motherly and tall women (i apparently "only have mommy issues" according to this anon). I even got called bi for saying to a guy friend he was "good looking" ffs.
It's like those guys with fragile heterosexuality that feel the need to say "no homo" all the time to reassure themselves. People need to chill.

>>8447025
Boners are normal from being close to someone attractive.

>>8447240
*STDs
not MSTs
I should take a break from studying french.

>>8447193
>physical contact was the cause of horniness
yep
blame your hormones, my young friend
I'm glad I'm older now & I can stand touching people or looking at slightly naked people without having a boner

>>8447240
>Sexuality is fluid anyway, who cares if someone love one or both?
Glad to hear a cis lesbian say this. Gays and lesbians so often seem to think it isn't.

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bi girl here. i haven't been able to get any cute girls in months and i am lowkey tired of dating straight men. what am i doing wrong? was my bisexuality membership card revoked?

>>8416943
Stfu.

>>8412350
>bisexuals harm homosexuals
We do, and we enjoy it. Get used to it, faggot.

>>8447652
date a tranny

>>8447668
Arguing about which letter is the worst is black and white child's play. The most truly abhorrent members are the ones who come up with meme sexualities, and can be found everywhere. Even among the straights. Remain vigilant.

>>8436193
>tfw have accepted the fact that i'm bi
>not attracted to a lot of guys, very picky
>constantly question if i'm attracted to my friends
>constantly come to the conclusion that i'm not
>still have wet dreams about them
wat do

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>watch The Loud House
>Luna gives girl she likes a love letter
>happy to find out that she's bi
>actually go to Tumblr and Twitter to see people gushing over it
>can't stand seeing others mocking or belittling Luna and Sam now

Tumblr is a fucking mess, but at least I agree with them in this case. But is this what representation means? Am I going to be a Tumblrite just because of this simple bit of bisexuality in my favorite cartoon?

>>8449824
Representation is when it works and adds something to the story.

Tokenism is when it's just included for the sake of it that a character is gay/bi/trans and it a) is irrelevant or b) has shoehorned relevance.

Am I bi if I'd give a femboyish ftm a shot? I'd roleplay his daddy and have him over for netflix n chill. Something about the smooth skin and lips of a woman but the mentality of a male appeals to me

>>8448992
well if you are attracted to some of your friends the logical step would be to see if any are down to fuck.

or realize you maybe are just really itching for the D and look elsewhere

>>8448992
I have one friend that's super cute.
I stole his girlfriend right after they broke up like 6 years ago though. At least we've forgiven each other.

>>8449994
actually you'd be pansexual

Who else fantasizes about taking some really hot girl and getting her pregnant while some effiminte fag has to watch and/or suck your balls

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>>8407080
absolutely cannot get any satisfaction from gay porn.

nobody looks anything like me.

I tried to watch guy porn, but I was cycling through videos for a good 15 minutes and eventually I had to switch back to straight porn because nothing was happening for me.

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Where the fuck do I get a dominant gf, bigen? Every girl I get with is submissive and it's getting really boring.

>>8454952
>tfw the only girl who's interested in you is a dom
>tfw the only guy who's interested in you is a sub
I don't want either of these things.

Story about some weird shit
>out getting stoned with some friends
>six of us in the basement of my friends house passing around a few joints
>all dudes
>all sort of trying to sit on each other or next to eachother on the couch
>times goes by, get more high, get paranoid
>come out as bi out of pure paranoia
>they were all like "cool dude, we're all high as hell, we love you"
>feel better
>hour later my buddy asks him to help him upstairs
>run upstairs behind him
>turn the corner and he grabs my shirt and kisses me
>mfw I'm too high to figure out what's going on
>mfw he's the cute one
>"anon, tell anyone about this and I'll skin you a-"
>the rest of the guys are peaking around the corner looking

Continue?

>>8455453
do go on

>>8455453
Yes please

>>8455453
here here

>>8455453
>all sort of trying to sit on each other or next to eachother on the couch
>they were all like "cool dude, we're all high as hell, we love you"
this ends with an orgy doesn't it

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I think I might be bisexual because I fap to so much gay shit, but outside of porn I only like girls.

Even though I'll probably never fuck a guy I still feel the full weight of being bi, like I feel like I'm not good enough for girls and should never be a parent because I'd just be the fag dad. idk its a weird feel.

I remember the good old days in 2014 when bigens were derailed and reported to oblivion.

I guess this is how southeners feel when they think about the times they went hunting for coons

>>8413229
>That said, I don't feel that same need or urgency to turn my desires into acts with guys and I'm really not even sure why. I've had some pretty hot times online with males and sneak in some bro sexting when able; but I've never had the slightest inclination to physically act on my sexual attraction to men in day to day life.

I think only some people are bi enough that they could be fulfilled with only the same sex, for others its just fun. I always hear about girls who fool around with other girls, but at the end of it all they have to have a man in their life and would never seriously date another woman. I think guys can be this way too, where we can have fun with the same sex, but they could never fulfill us on a biological level, which is a much stronger drive, and because of this, whether or not you act on those feelings are of no consequence. There are probably a ton of guys out there with latent bisexuality, but whether or not it comes out doesn't matter because their love of woman overpowers it so much.

>>8455692
>shit up the board and drive out all the decent people
>wonder why it becomes filled with trannies

Gays

Hey, at least trannies can't "break your heart", right? LOL!

>>8455752
Hey, I dont do that stuff anymore. Its childish. I dont even browse 4chan now. Just checking in to see if hirohito had deleted this board.

>>8407080

Is it just me or are women just naturally colder than men? Not in the emotional sense (if anything men tend to be more stoic in my experience). Literally. Maybe it's ancedotal, but anytime I hold a woman's hand or kiss another woman, they're always, for some reason, cold. In contrast, men tend to be pretty warm most of the time.

Any other bifags come across this?

>>8455916
you're talking body temperature?
yes, women are usually cold
and men are usually warm
at the same temperature

i work in hvac for a school and the female teachers are always complaining that it is too cold and the male teachers are always complaining that it is too warm

>>8455783
>I don't even use 4chan anymore!

Yeah, you keep telling yourself that one

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>>8455453
why haven't you continued yet
you can't just leave it there

>>8455453
>come out as bi out of pure paranoia

Is this really a thing?

I find myself at an odd place in my life. I have had crushes on both boys and girls since middle school. But recently. These desires have been a lot more aggressive. When I see a smaller women or even women bigger then me, I have become more aggressive but do not make physical contact. But...with openly gay men. I am very aggressive. Make physical contact. Even make sexual advances on them. Anyone have the same thing here?

>>8456167
if you're on weed maybe

>>8455916
Women have shittier bodies: less muscles & body hair to protect them from the cold. And the patriarchy force them to wear skimpy, small clothes.

>after years of not dating girsl, & doubting about my het self, wants to give a try to the gay side
Well, I def love to make out, cuddle with guys (and have feels for cute ones).
Prison gay or really bi??

Have you ever felt ostracized by other members of the lgbt community? I'm asking as someone unfamiliar with how things work. I recently discovered I'm bicurious.

>tfw bi but have a cumming inside womb impregnation fetish

>>8459163
desperate and lonely?

>>8459733
that's not what fetish means

>>8459592
>bicurious

What does that even mean?

You will feel ostracized because you sound clueless and in denial. Gay men in particular hate people in denial.

A day late but whatever

>so me and the dude were just standing there in shock
>they all scurry downstairs laughing
>one stays behind

Remember: we are all stoned

>he get emotional and shit
>starts to tear up a bit
>we're all confused
>try to make him spit it out but won't
>my friend speaks up
>"dude just tell us what's up, those two are gay or some shit so tell us whats up"
>He finally speaks
>"I like anon okay? Fuck!"
>room is silent
>everyone shifts around awkwardly
>I stand up to break the silence
>"welp, anyone want some beer"
>a few of them say yeah as well as the one who just came out
>I go upstairs to the fridge and grab four or five cans
>I hear thumping and yelling from downstairs
>I walk downstairs to the two dudes wrestling on the ground with the other guys trying to get them off of each other
>mfw I'm too high to deal with this
>mfw I crack open a cold one and sit down on the couch and watch Netflix
>mfw they're still fighting
>after more yelling and shit I get pissed and step in
>"lets deal with this tomorrow morning please like holy fuck. Take your Fucking beer and sit down. Jesus fuck you two."
>We sit and watch Netflix for a bit then fall asleep

Continued in a bit

>>8461357
oh shit were they fighting over you?
genuinely interesting story anon

>>8461357

>during the night I hear some shifting around
>I'm on the couch and people are scattered around the basement
>the couch I was laying on was wide as hell enough for two people
>and of course this had to happen, the one that kissed me wanted to get intimate so what better Fucking way than to snuggle up to me
>I'm up and awake
>"wtf are you doing?" I say softly making sure not to wake anyone up
>"what does it look like?"
>I assess the situation, qt boi, shirtless, pantless, wrapped around me, smaller than me, twink quality, and wants to be intimate
>naturally I shrug it off and try to show little interest in order to calm the situation down a bit but God knows what I was really feeling.
>mfw he fell asleep
>throughout the night I keep waking up and noticing things that are just a turn on
>his cologne is amazing, his breathing is cute, hair is,cute and neat, honestly things felt better and better
>the sun peaked through the small windows lighting certain parts of the basement, one of them being where the couch was
>I woke up and sat up a bit
>he woke up from me moving
>"morning, anon." I looked at him and his cute tired smile
>my heart melted holy fuck he was adorable
>he sat up and rested his head on my shoulder
>I looked around and noticed everyone was asleep still

Continued more

>Everyone woke up finally and by that time I was pouring some cereal and sat at the kitchen table
>everyone filed into the room and sat around with me at the head
>the dude who slept with me on the right and the other dude on the left, the other guys sat and watched eagerly
>the only sound was the spoon from my cereal clinking against the bowl every time I went down for a scoop
>two cute guys
>one I like the other meh
>both equally important to me
> I put the spoon down and cleared my throat
>"can everyone who isnt the slightest bit gay please go back downstairs. The ps4 is all your for the time being."
> The two guys got up andwent downstairs
>I looked back and forth to each of them
>"I never like to see my friends fight. You guys know this." They looked guilty. "I'm not sure why this had to be like this, like Jesus Christ, but apparently it is."
>they look at each other and back to me.
>"you two settle your differences and then come back down stairs when you reached a conclusion." I got up and walked downstairs.
>five minutes later they came downstairs and the guy who had a Fucking mental breakdown spoke first. "First come first serve."
>I sat there in shock. "Ppppffff well shit then."
>we all laughed.
>they all left accept the guy you hit me
>had a great summer after that

And thats that story

>>8461447
Got*

>>8461447
so did you fuck the twink who slept on you later?

>>8461484
Still am

>>8461492
bit jelly tbqh

I have such a bad case of internalized homophobia that I don't know if I'm bi or gay in denial or just fucked in the head. I used to get crushes on girls exclusively but as I grew up I started liking guys, only jacking off to males, masculine as fuck ones. I only entertained fantasies with them, only got crushes/feelings for them. The porn I started to watch became super fucked up extreme gay BDSM to sounding to electro torture to cock/ball torture, to penis pump/prostate milking shit. Hell, I even started fapping to traps in chastity cumming from riding a dildo. I can't get off to anything normal anymore, and I rarely fap to girls, except when I decide to jack off to female creampies. (Something about a girl getting filled with cum turns me on, despite it being the most vanilla shit) another issue is, I sperg out when I talk to girls and feel like such a fucking white knight, despite trying so hard to not be that way. I have no trouble with guys whatsoever and have had sexual encounters with them before, and I didn't feel like I was being embarassing as fuck.

What the fuck am I? Male leaning bisexual? i don't think I'll ever marry a girl, or fall in love with a girl despite in my youth exclusively liking them.

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>grew up religious, lots of guilt surrounding sex and nudity in general
>would masturbate but never to porn
>even if I tried to use porn, the amount of guilt and paranoia made it far too uncomfortable to be worth it
>had crushes on girls in high school
>if I ever thought of them while masturbating I would physically stop until I wasn't thinking of them anymore
>somehow, the thought of other guys masturbating became the only thing I decided I was 'allowed' to think about
>probably because it wasn't sex (aka the bad thing I wasn't allowed to think of) but it was still a sexual action I could relate to the feeling of, as opposed to a girl masturbating which I can't relate to the feeling of
>never been interested in seeking out sexual relationships

>after months of trying to figure out what sexual attraction even is, realize I've been in denial about finding guys sexually attractive
>find some girls cute but never in a conscious "the thought of having sex with her gets me hard based just on her appearance" way
>kind of interested in short term physical relationships with guys for the experience, but due to various circumstances like family consequences don't want to have a long term boyfriend
>only interested in sex with a girl if I care about them emotionally, aka basically the opposite to a guy
>am actually interested in that, but haven't had a crush on anyone in at least 5 years, so have nobody to project those feelings and emotions onto
>so never really masturbate to the thought of fucking a girl unless it's just focusing on the penetration and body movement part and not whatever the physical characteristics of the girl are
>most of the time it's still just thinking of my high school friends fapping because it's easier than thrusting into my hand

how many layers of repression am I on right now

>>8461964
>>find some girls cute but never in a conscious "the thought of having sex with her gets me hard based just on her appearance" way

you sound more gay than bisexual to me, mate. especially when i read this:

>only interested in sex with a girl if I care about them emotionally, aka basically the opposite to a guy

you don't have raw sexual attraction to women, but still claim you'd fulfill them in a relationship. to me this sounds like you wishing you were straight - as you would WANT to fulfill your hypothetical gf....but the fact is you're not attracted to female bodies

have you masturbated to the thought of sex with a guy before, or only the jerking-himself-off stuff?

>>8407114
Honestly I've been feeling like this recently. I like women's body's but prefer men's personalities. My heads a little scrambled at the moment. And I'm beginning to hate on all my gay and bi friends because I think they secretly don't like me as much because I currently am basically straight.

It's pretty fucked.

>>8428111
That's a boy? Impressive.

>>8462032
I get what he's saying. I can't just fuck a piece of flesh that I find attractive, I need to know them a little bit and at least like their personality somewhat.

Makes it all the more sweeter when I break their fucking hearts.

>>8461511
U caught the gay anon

>>8462032
>you sound more gay than bisexual to me, mate
I've considered that before in the last couple weeks but I'm too confused and uncertain.
Recently I had a friend tell me how he had just had sex with his gf for the first time (which was after they had been together for a few months and had an emotional bond) - and it made me feel kind of longing for that? I wasn't in any way upset at them, but it made me realize I genuinely what to know what that's like and experience it myself. The thought of doing that with someone I cared about was and is arousing, there just isn't anyone I can project those feelings on to and fap to. I felt a similar way when I saw a different friend holding hands and kissing his bf the first time I saw him after he had come out. Same feeling of wanting to know what that's like, directed both towards a guy and a girl.

I'm still a bit confused by the whole concept of sexual attraction. Growing up religious all sex shit is taboo. 'No sex before marriage' is dictated, and anything that remotely resembles lust is shunned. I'm at the point where I don't necessarily believe any of that any more, but the fact remains I was still brought up to think that way and conditioning doesn't disappear overnight. The whole concept of arousal and sexual attraction being two different things is still kind of new to me, because I had never given it that much thought. I had never really allowed myself to think in terms of sexual attraction, because it all came under an umbrella I forbade myself to think of. Like I mentioned, fapping to the thought of other guys fapping became a loophole and from that it seeped into effectively just finding some guys outright sexually attractive. At church they never focus on homosexuality because it's just kind of assumed that everyone's straight by default so it doesn't need saying, so perhaps that could be why there isn't as much conscious guilt surrounding it.

1/2

>>8462032
2/2
I don't know if I don't find women sexually attractive or I'm just not allowing myself to think of any women that way in the first place due to the guilt surrounding it. I realize the blatant double standard considering I don't have the same issue with men, which is part of what confuses me so much. There are girls that I consider to be visually attractive, but I can't think of a time I've ever gotten an erection simply from looking at a girl and visualizing sex with them without any deeper emotional context. When I was young (ie the first year or 2 after starting fapping) I can remember times where I fapped to the thought of fictional het couples, but since I had never watched porn I was never thinking much about the physical aspects and thinking just more about the emotional bond part. I think. This is like 10 years ago so my memory's not the best, but I definitely remember fapping to girls in some context back then.

>have you masturbated to the thought of sex with a guy before
Rarely, but yes. Same way I can think of rare times where I've masturbated to the thought of a girl

>>8461511
internalized heterophobia

>>8454952
iktfb

>was supposed to have a date with a dominant qt who wants to peg me today
>now she's not responding

Life is suffering

>>8461964
you're probably bi but biased towards men, like maybe a 4 or 5 on the Kinsey scale.

Can somebody please explain the difference between bisexuality and pansexuality to me please?
I understand bi, but I don't get what makes pan different?

>>8463125
>bi
>I like boys and girls

>pan
>I like boys and girls and bizarro world tumblr abominations

>>8463125
However meme'd this video is, it actually does an amazing job educating people about what pansexuality is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErVbNEJHH-4

>>8463125
If someone identifies themself to you as a "pansexual", that person is simply a bisexual with a special snowflake syndrome.

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>>8463125
>bi
I'm attracted to men & women (entry-level sexuality).

>pan
I also want to fuck transsexuals (and interesexuals, and enbies) (for advanced connoisseurs)

>>8463125
>>8463432
Pansexual is just a transphobic way of saying bisexual, since it >implies that trans people aren't the actually the gender they're transitioning to, which is the opposite of what they want

>>8461511
>Hell, I even started fapping to traps in chastity cumming from riding a dildo

Why "even" ? The shit you listed before that was way more extreme.

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>>8463432
>>8464033
Pansexual means you will fuck anything that moves, including animals.
Bisexual means you will fuck transexuals as well as men and women.

>>8415919
>TFW that doesn't make me any less bi
literally how

>>8464033
Sexual attraction is largely derived from genitals, not the superficial label people call themselves based on how their personality aligns with cultural sterotypes. Trans people either have the wrong genitals or a hacked together cosmetic hole/meat stick

>>8465629
>Sexual attraction is largely derived from genitals
This. A photo or drawing of a woman in a bikini does nothing at all for me until I know what genitals she has underneath.

>>8465653
i cant tell if this is sarcasm.

>>8435841
As a bi guy, I'm gonna disagree with the people saying there's no difference between fucking a guy and a girl. It's almost a completely different experience for me.

That being said, there's no guarantee of a good experience on grindr, a gay club, craigslist, etc.

My best experience was actually from guyspy, which was some app for Windows Phone. We chatted for days before meeting up.

>>8412350
It's funny because I haven't had sex in a year and have been holding out for a relationship. I'm very bi

>>8415057
Their lives are much easier

>>8432519
That makes no sense and your an insecure faggot

So if a gay man has no partner, is he asexual?

>>8432602
I'm bi and I like FTM especially if they aren't taking hormones

>>8435521
He was bi without a doubt

>>8436044
I was more like this until I realized I was holding back

>>8466010
same, i used to be repulsed by the idea of being in a relationship with a guy but now i really enjoy the idea of it, so much so that I am putting more focus into finding a cute guy than a cute girl.
i feel by coming out, the repression memes have stopped and now i want to nourish the gayness.

>>8466154
>the repression memes
what kind of memes are those?

That feel when you can't decide what porn to look at..

So you usually decide to go with lesbian because it's usually softer, then gay, than straight, then a mmf threesome, then a ffm threesome, then a bisexual mmf threesome and eventually you've reached the stage when you just start watching orgies and feel bad about not finding a partner yet. Anyone else who do this?

>>8465926
IKTF bro

>>8466559
Watching cute amateur porn where the people are doing intimate stuff (like cuddling, kissing) makes me sad AF (bc no bf)
so I end up watching hardcore/degrading porn, then I feel bad

oh no