/ftmg/ - Female to male general

>>8406591
Who here AAP? (or AGP?)

>>8406641
I might be, I dont know or care desu

>>8406641
I don't get why /tttt/ cares about this so much it just seems like a pissing contest

I didn't really get any answers for this (apart from you elliot) so I'm asking again but would wearing shoe lifts be lame?
I'm 5'5" so they would take me to 5'7" not including boots. Like I said before it would be for my own confidence not to lie to potential dates or anything.

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>>8406770
People would probably notice and I think being known as the guy wearing shoe lifts is more embarrassing than being short.

>>8406644
Why don't you care?

>>8406741
How so?

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>>8406800
To me it seems similar to wearing a wig.

>>8406800
Whoops

What I meant by that is that I always see people bringing it up and arguing about it but I think HSTS and AGP are just two sides of the same shit coin

>>8406834
It's not something people should argue about, just something to understand and explore.

What do you mean that they're part of the same coin?

>>8406819
>>8406783
I mean those ones look pretty retarded, I'm sure you can get inserts that look less obvious than that.

I have finally fallen to degeneracy and ordered some bad dragon toys... I'm officially a mega pervert.

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>>8406875
LoL RDJ is so hung up on his height, I love it. He isn't even all that short, but his costars in the MCU are towering 6ft plus.

>>8407322
I think if I were him I wouldn't even care about my height. He's cool enough for it to not matter.

>>8407289
Cool cool. I want to try all manner of weird fantasy sex toys but I'm not into using them by myself so I need to wait to get into a relationship.
What did you get?

>>8407359
Medium Bumblehooves and Fenrir. Happened to find them kinda accidentally on adoptions, and they had nice discounts for tiny faults. The shapes are so much more interesting than on normal dildoes so I've long time secretly desired to get a few... but I always said to myself that they are way too expensive. Well they still are but my work pays pretty well so that's not really a problem. :D

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>>8407345
I know on set theyre required... radically differing heights fuck up two-shot scenes, lifts for moving close ups or literally "stand on this box" for still shots are not unheard of.

As a, slightly taller than DeVito, manlet... I should slip short celebrities business cards at conventions:
>Society trying to make you feel small, bro? Hit me up when you're in town, all the candid paparazzi shots will make you look hella tall.

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Will they take me off T if I get diagnosed with schizophrenia?

>>8407477
I don't think there are many reasons they would take you off t. Cis guys don't have to go on hrt for schizophrenia.
>>8407410
They are pretty expensive but they're well known for what they do. I'm interested in their cum lube/tubes.
Hope you enjoy the pair when they arrive

>>8407513
The Bumblehooves also has a cumtube, maybe I'll remember to tell my experiences about them when I get my hands on them.

>>8407289
It's ok. I want to buy a Cockatrice.

>>8407289
I really really really fuckin' want the tentacles. Lemme know how the tubes are if you get them, that is my gross fetish and I dunno if it's something worth checking out.

>>8407532
I want it too, but I was too cheap to buy it in perfect condition right now... I wanted something I can get fast, too impatient to wait for a custom order. If I like the others I bought I'll probably then order Crackers too with suction cup.

>>8406591

Do you want to take out your anger of not having dick and balls by kicking a guy in the nuts ?

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>>8407618

>>8407618
Dude no

>>8407289
Godammit anon, why would you remind me of this temptation when I absolutely should not blow money on things to shove in my ass.

Hello guys, it's ok to post here I I'm a detransed mtf?

>>8406770
I've tried them but they don't really help all that much. You don't really notice until you get home and take them off.

>>8406800
I don't care because I feel like it's bullshit and no matter what I'm going to try and be a dude as much as humanly possible for an xx person

>old binder ripped
>Bought another underworks and a half and full binder from gc2b
>All medium and measured myself before hand
>Underworks one is too loose and the gc2bs are too small

I remember my first binder was an underworks as well and had a nightmare figuring out how to put it on at first I am unsure if I'm having that problem with the gc2bs.
Sucks that I have spent like $95 already on new binders and I'm just going to buy a smaller underworks instead of exchanging it since I can't be waiting another week+ without a binder.


Anyway when I get my new underworks one and IF that fits better than the medium I bought, I'd be willing to sell my medium for like $10+shipping if anyone wants it. Shipping in the US will probably be like, four dollars at the highest.

>>8407768
Shame, though could be a good thing that it doesn't mean as much as you thought?

>>8407477
Guys develop schizophrenia earlier so T might make it show up sooner than it would otherwise but it's not like going off T would un-give you schizophrenia.

>>8408056
Yeah. You'd need to add about 6" to your height to really get a noticeable feel, but that'd look ridiculous using shoes or inserts.

>>8407716
Why did you detransition?

>>8408361
Still don't pass after 3 years of hrt and ffs.

Ever dommed a cis guy /ftmg/ ?

>>8407477
no
t. personal experience

>>8408364
I hear this from a lot of de-transwomen.

What would be the best way to simulate ejaculation with phallo?
Obviously with a prosthetic you have the middle to run a tube through that you don't have with the human body.

>>8408364
I'm sorry.
I don't really know what else to say.

>>8408364
I'm gonna need to see pics now.

>>8406641
Cis male here, I'm AAP.

>>8408417
>>8408435
It sucks

>>8408469
I won't post my pics but my face is still fairly masculine and my body is very masculine.
I have very broad shoulders (43" circumference), no waist (30"), narrow hips (37"), and a large ribcage (33").

>>8408478
Explain?!

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>>8408525
Anon is this you?

>>8408569
Those measurement are wrong
You didn't add height (5'9'), bust is 35" while underbust is 33"

>>8408569
You also forgot weight which is at 145

>>8408478
AAP in a cis male is just called being a man

you can get AAP and AGP in the same person btw :^)

>>8408620
>>8408614
So this?
Bit unfortunate, but you can still go androgynous.
Or just keep trying. I've seen a lot of unfortunately-shaped cisgirls and they still pass for girls.
I'm 5'1" and babyfaced. I've accepted that I'm not going to be a buff 6'2" Chad Adonis but I'd still rather be a guy than a girl.

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>>8408649
Attaching the picture might help.

>>8408649
I rather just be a guy than some andro/hon creature

>>8406770
Dude why the fuck so you care? 5'5 is not that short. I'm 5'2 for fuck's sakes. I don't care. Just get over it

>>8408785
Alright, I was just presenting you with an option.

On the bright side of this, at least you're prettier than other cisguys.

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>>8408947
No I'm just an ugly person and it sucks.

>>8408861
>Just get over it
Okay thanks I'll tell that to the rest of my dysphoria too.
And yeah 5'2 is shorter and great it doesn't bother you but 5'5 is also still pretty short for a guy and it does bother me.

>>8408970
With that attitude, yeah.

>>8409055
If it makes you feel better, one of my uni profs is around 1.60 meters tall and still makes all the chicks in class go nuts for him

>>8408551
I am a cis gay man. I get aroused when I make my voice sound masculine. I think this counts as AAP but I'm not too sure?

>>8409071
My attitude has nothing to do with it

>>8409465
Confidence goes a long way.

>>8406641
>AAP? (or AGP?)

what the heck are these ? And do I even want to know

>>8409478
Appearance > personality

>>8409605
Appear confident

I was a cis male before I was a trans woman.

>>8409686
I can't
Being ugly stops that

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Do I pass?

>>8409861
Ugly successful guys have even more confidence to compensate.

Stop giving a shit about what other people think as you're doing (x) and just fucking do (x).

today i went to dairy queen and i'm pretty sure a guy working there was FtM. i wanted to ask him but i'm pretty sure that'd be a dick move. i wish i could have someone irl to talk about these kinds of things with though, and get first hand recommendations and shit. i don't know how to start my transition.

>>8409605
No it doesn't. It just shows when you doubt yourself.

>>8410023
could pass as either, when in doubt your voice and body language will decide for you

>>8410023
You're very androgynous. Like >>8410336 said your voice & body language will be a big deciding factor.

Is there any way to make my tits smaller without binding or surgery? Like are there any drugs I could take? Please help me.

Why don't you ftm's (or at least the gay ones) like or salivate over guys like cis gay men do??
Your sex drives seem to be really different in comparison.
Whats up with that?

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>>8406770
......... All of yall are generally short tho. I personally find this hot because I literally have an 8inch dick that looks wonderful next to a smaller frame.

>>8409503
I still don't really understand what these mean either. So I would also want to know.

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>>8410420
I only find the body hot on this person.
face is 3/10
body 8.5/10

>>8410414
bait.jpg

>>8410420
Please, I already know how easy it would be to "date" as short gay bottom but I'm not.

>bisexual
>fucking women makes me dysphoric because I don't have a real dick to top them
>looking at women makes me reflect in my own body and feel like shit
>fucking men makes me dysphoric the same way as #1
>being a bottom makes me feel like some AAP freak
I just want to get off, goddamnit.

>>8411181
Not gonna lie, having a fat dick is the single best thing about being cis male. I feel sorry for the MtFs that choose to waste this.

>>8410388
You'd rather take drugs than bind?

>>8410157
I saw some blue-haired lardo in a used-car-salesman suit the other day and stared intensely trying to figure out if they were FTM. Luckily, or not, they kept their head down so I couldn't reliably clock but they didn't see me stare.

>>8410388
Why exactly do you want it without binding or surgery? What's your situation?

Are you on T or unable to get it? Are you fine with taking steroids etc?

Are you fat/skinny/muscular etc.? Are your breasts dense or more fatty?


Generally the best drug for making tits smaller is T but there are other ways to do it
Depending on your situation you might be unable to change your size without surgery but most people are able to do so


Also you know you can bind with sports bras right

>>8412078
+ Generally it mostly boils down to fat loss, lifting makes them look a bit better too, but fat makes the biggest changes
If you're not already at very low BF% you should try losing fat and everything that helps it will also help the breasts

>>8412161
it's primarily where we post about trans stuff though

not saying ftms can't be horndogs, especially with the effect second puberty has, but it's not the main avenue of discussion

>>8412161
Cisgen posts about chicks all the time but mtfgen rarely does
AGPgen rarely posts about girls too even though you'd think they would all the time
You don't see girls talked about that much on other boards like /v/ etc. unless it's about some kinda waifu game like overwatch

I don't see why you'd expect guys to be talked about in a general that's not about them (especially since we do have gaygen and I don't think it's trying to exclude FtM like cislesgen, what's the point of having the same discussion in two generals? Better make trans talk stay in trans threads and gay talk in gay ones)

>>8412161
>>8412191
>>8412220
Exactly, this is a board for trans men.
I don't want to see half naked people here I want to see trans related discussions, doesn't mean I have a low sex drive just a different tab open.

And also we aren't all gay. I don't want to see hot guys anyway.

>>8412221
pls report, I don't need this

>>8412221
It's hilarious how trans men retain the same sexual capital they had as women, just because of their pussy privilege.

>>8411181
Why not embrace the AAP?

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>>8412444

>>8412444
But it sucks how trans women retain the same sexual capital they had as men, just because they don't have pussy privilege.

>>8412444
Could have fooooled me

>>8413138
What's the AAP like?

>>8406641
I have both. My ideal self image is masculine, and I fetishize having muscles even though I'm shit at bodybuilding IRL. My perverse fantasies involve that ideal self image warped into a girl.

It's quite bizarre, wanting to be butch whilst at the same time wanting to be a girl. The only leeway it's given me is the ability to "blend" into worlds seamlessly.

>>8410023
You look like a teenage boy.
Get a haircut, fagot

I have to give an employer my ss card tomorrow which has my birth name on it. I just changed it recently and I haven't gotten my new ss card in the mail yet. How should I explain it?

>>8413241
What dysphoria do you have?

>>8413468
short hair is for lusers

>>8413481
You can't really, can you postpone it?

>>8413541
I could but it would look bad and I need to save money so I can get top surgery ASAP. I guess I'll just hope they aren't transphobic. They said they were going to hire me anyway and I know I'm going to past the drug test so if they try the "you failed the drug test" shit I guess I could sue.


On a related note: Anyone here post chest-op? Who do you go to, how much did it cost?

>>8413558
>"Hello HR drone, I have changed my name legally on my ss card but I have not received the updated copy in the mail. Please use this for now and if you need to see the updated one I will give that to you asap."

>>8413566
Should I call them a drone or leave that part out?

>>8413662
definitely keep the drone part

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how unmanly is it to cry about being an unlovable freak
also how do you guys cope with dysphoria I am having quite a hard time tonight and the crying isn't helping

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>new cis bf who leans more towards men
>treats me like a dude
>doesn't get grossed out by me talking about my period

I've never been happier lads

Any ftms in Canada on the T- patches or cream? what are the costs if you aren't on insurance?

Transwoman here, just curious what were the mental and emotional changes you dudes noticed when you started on T?
How long on T was until you started having those changes?
Thanks.

>>8415175
But how's you fucks?

>>8415569
probably penis in boipussy (anus) or penis in boipussy (forbidden hole) or strapdong in boipussy (bf anus)

anon you better give that guy a good donging now and then so he knows who's boss

how would a ftm and mtf fug?

>>8415662
>piv
>strap-on in butt
>jerking each other
>jerking themselves
>just cuddling and crying together

>>8415676
>just cuddling and crying together
this sounds like the best one

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>>8415630
I wish. Dude says he's not much for sex but he's such a fucking bottom jesus christ it drives me insane

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@ cis gays guys
would you care if your partner had noticable chest scars? I'm self conscious about mine even though they're not too bad. It cost me roughly $2K to get it done and idk if cosmetic surgery to remove the scar tissue would be worth it. The doctor did a great job but it's obvious to tell if you know what you're looking at.

>>8415547
I've been on T for 6 months and it's made me more relaxed & tired. I've never had sleeping problems but now the regular 8hrs/night is leaving me tired as fuck throughout the day.
It also drove my libido way up but that was to be expected.

how long after double incision top surgery did u start doing chest work again? i dont want to bench i just want to do some push ups. but i dont want to like... rip anything. im 6 weeks post op today.

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>>8416769
I'd lick them.

>>8415175
>still has periods
Get on T

>>8415547
2 months on T now, I've just gotten aggressive, hungry, and horny.

My appetite reduced since I've been on T. Maybe because I started late?

>>8415547
On T for a year. First couple months: became more chill. Easier to control emotions. Libido way the fuck up. Around 6 months: started noticing getting angrier in competitive situations. It's more of a sudden intense anger that cools off really quickly though. I also don't remember when was the last time I cried, so that's pretty cool. Overall happier, calmer, more motivated.

>>8416769
>$2k
fuck, where

>>8417976
sometimes insurance only pays for a percentage of the surgery. its still shitty because a lot of trans people are poor and dont have even 10% of whatever their top surgery costs laying around. im grateful that my insurance paid for all of mine, i didnt even have a copay for the consult or post op appointments.

I sincerely wish I could be in a k-pop band. Fml.

>>8417085
I'm ok with this

>>8418057
Yeah no, I was asking because comparatively to what I've heard that's fucking cheap
That's like, "within the realm of the physically possible" for me, which at present does not exactly look good.

>>8418057
2k is cheap as shit, insurance must have covered at least 80%. Mine was like 6.7k out of pocket and I had no travel expenses because I live locally.

Straight cis man here.
Thinking about breaking nofap to some amature ftm porn.
But I also want to go on craigslist and talk some not TOO passable FTM into meeting up just to talk and hangout...
But it's pretty much going to be a few hours of me using my quite honestly massive cock to destroy those holes and drain my nuts in them.

Should I rub one out or go online and use some innocent transman as a sex toy and spend all night abusing them mercilessly.

If you do think I should stay home and fap, can you give me some suggestions for ftm porn? I can only get off to amature masturbation, usually featuring the use of a toy.

>>8406591
Just read this holy shit http://ftmguide.rassaku.net/

I'm an AGP who lives as a man. Seeing a woman swoon over the trappings of my gender and my masc features is just surreal. Especially when I barely make any effort at it. I've almost never worn a suit for example.

>>8419177
What masc features? Why don't you wear a suit?

>>8419246
The article mentioned square harline, angular face, broad shoulders, narrow hips and waist. I have all these though my facial angles are somewhat obscured by fat and a beard. Also I have a strong browridge, well beyond the moderate bossing the average cismale has.

I never wear suits because I never feel the need for one, i'm not a formal person. They're expensive, need to be cared for and trap heat. Since I've been obese most of my life suits seemed even less appealing.

>>8419088
Buck Angel is a pretty hot ftm you could fap to.
I would love to see you use your massive cock to destroy those holes.
I know a lot of trans men are pretty horny.
Not sure how submissive they are, but a lot of them are gay so probably pretty submissive.
Maybe make sure they know what you want to do to them before you invite them over so they don't get freaked out by your dominance.

>>8419088
>Straight cis man
>amature ftm porn
um

>>8419412
Well some people who do amateur ftm porn are still really in the beginning of their transition, their voice is still really high, not much hair, still female bodyshape etc. That surely interests straights/bis more than gays.

>>8409055
Cis dude here, I'm 6'6" and I love short dudes.

>>8406641
Me

>>8416769
Scars are hot.

I work in retail and my boss recently transferred to a different store. We now have a new boss who is a complete bitch and she's already fired three of our long-time employees within the past two weeks, one of which I was extremely close with. I'm a good employee but I've occasionally fucked up (something my old boss forgave because she is such a nice lady) so I'm afraid I'm next.

Hold me guys.

>>8421073
No holding.

Go update your resume.

Call your references to confirm they are still good numbers.

Get new references.

Go on job searches and use this change as an opportunity to find something better.

Do not curl up and wait for the axe to drop.

Man up.

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is packing aap or hsts

>>8421475
it's not that deep brah you just got dysphoria

>>8421486
but my memes

>>8421494
no

>>8421475
kek, mtf blanchard questions get adopted by ftms.

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>>8413163
Meanwhile I (ftm) just get a bunch of chasers assuming I'm mtf because they don't even understand the CONCEPT of ftm or I get messages like this.

Sounds an awful lot like mtf privilege to me.

wew I'm not banned anymore

180cm / 5'10 mtf here
How and where do I find a ftm bf who is a similar height or taller than me?
I checked dating sites for transguys as I assume I'd get on better with other trans people and we'll understand each others issues more, but all of the FtMs were between 4'10 and 5'5.

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>>8422026
welcome to reality
enjoy your stay!

>>8422026
aim lower, literally. i'm 5'9" and that's on the tall side for a trans guy

anyway your bf doesn't have to be taller than you, that's just a meme straight people sell you. it's all about chemistry and whether he stretches your bussy out just right

>>8421931
>mtfs have female privilege over ftms
Don't feel bad, at least it proves you're guys!

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>>8422026
You probably won't, just spend most of the time on your knees and you'll be golden

>>8422058
>female privilege
he said mtf privilege, dumbass

>>8422936
what do you think the f stands for in mtf

it's not fuck

>>8422936
It's female privilege though.

>>8422957
it's tranny(mtf) privilege
people know what they are and actively seek them

>>8422949
i-is it fun?

>>8422973
oh, it's definitely not fun

>>8422979
shut the fuck up you whiny miserable faggot

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>>8423000
no chance friend

>>8422967
>people
men

>and actively seek them
as for cis females

>>8423016
we could call it chick privilege and convey the same general idea

though if desirability to the sweaty masses is what constitutes a privilege nowadays we may as well do away with the concept

>>8423035
SJWs invented it anyway, so it's already a worthless concept

>>8422026
>accepted even though trans
>not accepted for being short/er
Well if I'm getting top, lower and fms I guess I might as well add leg lengthening to the list

when will we exterminate the hon race?

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>have been much more sexist against women in an effort to feel more manly and separated from them
This is just a phase, right?

>>8406591
Tranny activists don't think ftm trannies exist

It's all about he weirdo guys who pretend to be women for internet points that are the real trannies

>>8423569
Maybe don't misgender people?

>>8423607
Why do you bite on obvious bait

I wish you guys were more active on here, I would be but I'm a depressing pile of shit that has nothing good to say

>>8422026
>tfw ftm and you will never have qt tall mtf girlfriend ;;

it's another one of these

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/q-a-meet-biff-and-trystan-a-queer-expecting-story_us_593b4679e4b014ae8c69e076

>biff and trystan

can't tell if the names sound silly because trans or because they are american

i don't hate this article though they seem nice

>>8424722
>things that could possibly be construed as feminine or female
Yeah, where did people get the crazy idea getting pregnant and giving birth was feminine?

>>8424753
yeah also

>He had never even seen a naked female body ever before the first time we were intimate.

that bit made me vom a bit, if just for dysphoric reasons

>We’re now seeing data showing transmen are willing to do really stupid things for gay men to accept them, often at the expense of our own health and wellness. I definitely made some of those mistakes, especially with being with people who were mean. Because I was just grateful they would be with me at all.

this is bang on the money though

>>8424349
If this board wasn't such a pathetic shithole, I would. But the MTFs here make it pretty inhospitable I'm not gonna lie. Good content here is rare.

Are any of you transitioning in Scandinavia? I live in Sweden and the waiting times here are such bullshit, I just wanna kill myself, I can't wait 2 more years just to get on T.

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>>8423569
yasss queen

yeah Im also blind, have a laugh

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>>8425250
it's ok

>>8422050
>>8424371
A taller guy is nice, but I could definitely date a transguy who was shorter. Height isn't the only factor, and personality is important.
Is being with a taller girl really something you guys wouldn't mind though? Is it a turn on??

>>8424960
Sorry about that, but I think a lot of us try to avoid the autistic transbian anime posting drama circlejerk that is mtfg.

>>8425250
Wouldn't it help with GD?

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How's the dating pool as ftm? I feel like my current bf's gonna leave me once I'm deeper into transition (he's straight, though he has questioned that in the past, but I don't want to force him to like something he doesn't), and I want to make sure I don't end up lonely and sad forever

On a more positive note, what are y'all's hobbies? I've been getting into aquarism/fishkeeping lately, and am waiting until I have more money and room to get a 75 gallon tank to make it into a planted aquascape

>>8425762
depends on area pretty much

I draw, learn languages, play music (in a band kindof) and skateboard and thats pretty much my only hobbies

>>8425762
>How's the dating pool as ftm?
garbage, nearly non-existent sometimes

>>8413558
I'm post top. I went to Salgado and he takes insurance, but i think if i didn't have any it would have been around 10k.

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>Tfw smoking weed in the tunnel with my mates all our hoods up

I'm such a man.

(I wanna be a girl I wanna be a girl)

>>8425969
this is /female to male gen/ mate

>>8425204
Yup, Finland. Asked for a referral to the trans unit when I was 17, had to wait until I was 18 to actually get an appointment. Saw different shrinks etc about 6 times during 10 month period and got my T prescription. I've heard it being much harder and longer road in Finland for people in Helsinki and for some people in Tampere, (I went to Tampere too). But I guess I was a clear case for them as I consider my road super easy.

>>8425762
Dating as ftm is fucking bullshit so I gave up and will satisfy myself with dragon dildoes.

Last week I ordered 2 ready made toys from BD that should reach me this week, and now I ordered custom Crackers and Flint. Now I have everything I wanted from them so I can be sated... Thankfully I'm not too poor but jesus spending so much money on dildoes is crazy. Help.

>>8423565
It depends on what you said.

>>8425762
>>8425880
>>8425884
Are you looking for straight men, gay men, or girls, gay girls? I'm confused.

>>8426042
I'd honestly do the same as you if I had so much cash. I've been eyeing the Demon Dick for a while now.

>>8425880
What languages do you study? I've been studying english since I was a kid, and now I'm trying to get into german, but I'm slacking off on it a bit, it's frustrating to not know everything there is to know already.

>>8426066
I don't say anything outloud because I know I'd just sound like an edgy retard, but I usually think of things like "women are useless for this, this is a man's job", "they can't do X", that sort of stuff. So not too severe, but still annoying.

>>8426076
Personally I want to date men, but I guess I could be open to the idea of dating a woman (only after passing though, I'd hate the idea of people thinking I'm a butch lesbian or something)

>>8426076
gay men and maybe mtf girls

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>>8425762
>man with vagina
>the absolute worst combination according to 99% of the population who know ftms exist

Just give up, dude. I'm planning to keep my friends close and live life as a wizard.

>>8426076
I'm looking for anyone tbqh F A M

>>8408407
Yup. He asked me to. That being said, I'm actually not into cis dudes, so it was pretty fucking boring.

>>8406641
https://womandrogyne.wordpress.com/2012/08/22/agp-wtf/

>>8426124
Those kind of thoughts are kinda normal depending on the situation usually kept to yourself unless your in a group of only males then people feel free to shoot the shit with a open mind and mouth, I assume your talking about Building, or other physical handyman related jobs.

This is the first time, checking out /lgbt/ and one of the only threads that had decent dudes in it, You guys are allright.

>>8406591
This is DEGENERACY. Fucking kikes have mind fucked you you roasties. You'll never be men. Just weirdos.

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>>8426335

>>8426321
>I assume your talking about Building, or other physical handyman related jobs
No, my thoughts devolve into that everytime I see a woman doing something that could've been done in a more practical way.
I guess I'm mostly impressed with myself for thinking these because I've never really thought of things that way. I've also been thinking in a much more racist way lately too, maybe I'm just angry at life in general for making me a tranny

>>8425884
>>8426042
gay or bi?

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>>8426335
>all the cheap packers are circumcised
yeah i sometimes wonder

>talking to counsellor about how I cry so damn much
>"would you say men or women cry more"
>answer probably too quickly
>referred to me as a "remarkable young person"
>calls me out when she thinks I'm holding out on her
Does she know

>>8427008
Gay. I like masculine men and I'm a bald hairy hobbit myself.

>>8427022
It's psychological. A mutilated man can't stand to create a representation of the intact member because it would mean admitting to himself what happened to him.

>>8427096
probably not, but if she seems right on then wouldn't do you any harm telling her

i mean, it probably has something to do with the crying

>>8423569
>most of the local trans activists I know are trans men
cool meme

>>8421115
kek running away from your problems like a pussy bitch is "manning up"

nice advice there pal

>>8421931
Holy shit what crawled up that guy's ass?

>>8429046
That guy's attitude is pretty common for FTMs.

Ive not yet started HRT but does anyone know if it could affect neck size? Its my most masculine trait and i want it gone.

>>8429115
wrong thread dumbass

jesus christ

>>8428744
Sure beats whining for hugs on the internet while not taking control of the situation.

You "gotta know when to fold 'em"... and anon's situation calls for getting a new job. Crazy bitch bosses are not worth sticking around for, especially when you're already on thin ice. Lady bosses are worth avoiding in general, i m o.

>>8421931
> privilege
Not happy about life's obstacles? Tackle them.

>>8427022
What is American culture

>>8429847
a jewish conspiracy

>>8429742
>"gotta know when to fold 'em"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX42e1gOOFs

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>>8429199
Shit fuck i read it wrong

My bad, no need to get super upset.

>>8407477
I don't think so. I have schizophrenia, and they got me on T anyway.

>>8430398
Plus if you only get schizophrenia after transitioning you can pretty much exclude it causing gender dysphoria

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Are mtfs prone to dyslexia or something, the same way ftms are prone to autism? or are we just not privvy to the equal hoards of dopey ftms who mistakenly find themselves in /mtfg/?

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>>8430641
Maybe we just need to use more manly OP pics and hope the gays don't get lost on their way to /mascgen/

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>dysphoric
>get depressed because of it and what being trans entails
>so depressed I don't even know if I'm actually experiencing dysphoria anymore

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What do you guys smoke?

>>8430985
I wish I could smoke weed again but cigs wise

marlbros or your pic would be my poison

>>8430985
Nothing, I personally can't even stand the smell of cigarette smoke. I used to smoke sometimes when I was younger and was drunk as fuck, never sober though.

>>8430985
Marlboro Reds or Djarum specials. I go for the red casing and the nicotine rush.

>>8430985
weed

>throwing away life on easy mode

kek, twink master race

Hey lads,
What are the early signs of a potential FtM, talking to a girl in college who I think might be a trans man. Not 100% sure of the signs though. I'm getting on well with her/him, and I really wanna experience the purest form of love. Transwoman x Transman. Figured if anyone knew the signs of a potential FtM it would be you guys.

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>>8431661
>counting your chickens before they hatch

umm

>>8431661
It's none of your business. If they are trans it's on their time, not yours. Fuck off with this shit

>>8431674
Yeah I know that I'm in fantasy land when I talk about experiencing the purest form of love. What are the signs anyway?

>>8431690
She/he might not even know that she/he might be trans. There's pretty low trans exposure in Britain.

>>8431692
Dysphoria. Which is to say, you can't know really

>>8431703
With mtf's there's a lot of signs you can watch out for to see if someone might be trans that are more visible than dysphoria. Aren't there any with ftm's?

>>8431726
Drug use and self hatred seem to be the biggest ones to me

>>8421115
>>8429742
I would definitely agree with you if I wasn't moving cities in like a month lol. Already applied for new jobs there, had a couple interviews and waiting for a confirmation. I'm going to tough it out for the next few weeks since looking for a job around here that'll last a few days at most isn't practical. I probably should have mentioned that in my op but yeah, lighten up.

>>8430985
Og kush in the morning, a golden goat hybrid throughout the day, and nyc diesel before bed . i'm a coloradofag, and grow my own.

>>8431740
so all those thots who are about xannys and muh depression might just be ftms?

>>8432390
Yes, we'll convert them

>>8430164
we get dumb hons posting here thinking it's mtfg at least once with every thread, sometimes more and they start talking to each other basically turning it into a mini mtfg if it's bad enough

you've ruined the rest of the board already, can't we at least have our general?

>>8431661
She could just be a tomboy. Leave her alone, you sick creep.

>>8407410
>medium bumblehooves
Holy shit anon, that's huge... I got my first dildo the other day, and I honestly can't get it in past the head. I was hoping I was good about warming myself up but I guess not. God damn I hate sticking my fingers up there, phalloses are much better.

>>8415175
Good for you, anon. Hope it stays solid.

>>8415547
My emotional response to anything at any given time has dropped to 0.2, started noticing it when it'd been two months and I hadn't cried once. Six months in, I still haven't cried and I've had like, two times of mental crisis when I used to have one at least once a month and would cry at movies and whatnot.
Libido went kablam not even a week in, still high but I can handle it. I am also much more frequently noticing hot people in public and my mind definitely tends to drift more than before in that aspect.
Generally feeling much more chill about my genderfeels, when I do get them they're less vague ("ugh I feel wrong") and more focused ("ugh it's really annoying how expensive good packers are", "argh, the only guys who're into me are bi, I really wish I had a gay guy at least once").
Generally, I'm happier.

>>8421475
Who cares, it's nice.

>>8421931
Haven't had anything like this yet, mostly people just ignore me. Told someone nope for calling me a cuntboy but they actually backed off after that so hey.

>>8423565
Don't make it a habit or it'll stick with you forever and be really fucking hard to unlearn.

>>8425204
Stockholm, Sweden. It took me two years from first contact with SÖS HBT-health to getting my first prescription of T.
There's a lot of bullshit, and it did take a long while, but I really can't relate to all of you folks waiting for literal years once you're already in the system? For me it took like, a year to get into the system and then another to get to the point where I actually met a doctor, but I also got lost when they moved the hospital, and I didn't have meetings that often anyway...

>>8426272
I'll swap you.

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>Promised coworker I would have 15 page report done by this afternoon
>I just finished page 1
God I'm a fuckup.

>19
>live with grandparents, they know I'm a tranny
>grandpa super chill about it
>grandma hopes it's a phase
>compliments me whenever I wear anything remotely feminine
>wants me to wait till I'm 25 or 30 so I know FOR SURE that I'm a tranny

How fucked up of me would it be to go ahead and start taking T? I'd be funding it myself, but I don't want to disrespect their house. Should I go ahead and start transition?

why does my mom act like she's be sad if I killed myself but then ignore me all day anyway?
I could probably get a good few days out of killing myself before she noticed.

Do surgeries to make your jawline bigger exist?

>>8432852
You're old enough to make your own decisions. The number one regret for most people was not being able to start sooner. Just go for it.

>>8432852
It wouldn't be fucked up just do it already
>>8432858
You can get jaw implants and chin augmentation

>>8432852
Don't fucking wait.

t. guy who waited too long.

>>8432533
The Crackers and Flint I got in small are actually thicker than the medium Bumblehooves lol. But I get off to stretching so I'm not new to big toys...

>>8432865
>>8432869
>>8432865
Aye. Thanks for the input lads I'll work towards it

>>8432905
>I get off to stretching
have fun with that prolapse

>>8433010
Vaginal stretching. And I'm not insane enough to buy bigger than medium toys from BD, I know that some use XLs on both holes and that's just insane.

>>8433101
That's pretty fucking hot. How hairy are you?

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>>8433101
>willingly stretching the dysphoria hole
what the actual fuck

>>8433116
Full beard and pretty hairy body, lost my hair though but I'm too old to care about that anymore.

>>8433123
I stopped having dysphoria about my neither regions after I got manly through hormones and surgeries. I don't have a womb or ovaries so now it's just an easy hole to fuck that feels good.

>>8433123
gotta punish it for existing

>>8433153
Beard and hairy body is all I need to fantasize, yo. Body hair is criminally underrated.

>>8433153
>>8433173
>tfw masc cismale with beard and hairy body
>tfw in 30s with full head of hair

>>8433230
marry me now

>>8432852
I got on T while living with my grandparents and it took them time to get used to the idea but now 5ish months on T they're finally using the right name. It's not disrespecting their house, you're not injecting the roids into the floorboards.

>>8433230
I'd fuck you but I'm also a cis male so there's that.

>>8416769
wouldn't care, it's just a scar

>>8433242
>>8433437
I'm straight but open to twinks/traps/trannies. I'm masc 4 fem yo, unless the fem wants to make me feel like a girl than its fem 4 fem. ;)

>>8433559
Anon I think you're in the wrong thread. FtM transdudes want to be masculine. Hence the female to male part.

>>8433559
yeah, that's not straight desu

Just got my first packer to toy around with and this feels better than it has any right to wtf.

>inb4 aap
Yes.

>>8433663
Nice. Boxers or briefs?

>>8433595
Oh absolutely I just enjoy reading about the adventures of dysphoric girls who wanna be me(minus the AGP).

Being a dude is something that I didnt want be but I had to go along with, so I've had to learn to live with it. I'm probably as clueless as an AAP, except I have years of lived experience as an awkward introverted man.

>>8433618
Fine i'm a variant of bisexual but I identify as straight.

>>8433742
can you wear a packer with boxers?
>how would that even work?

>>8433904
a harness or boxer briefs

>>8433904
Oh right I didn't think of th

>>8433917
YEAH DUH SEE

>>8433742
Boxer briefs, lmao. Boxers are cool for lounging about, but I don't got a harness and I like the look of a snug fit more.

Honestly I'd much preferred a intact dick, but those are way expensive and far rarer, which makes me sad.

>>8433904
Harness.

>start new job
>notice coworker casting glances at me (very possible its in my imagination)
>start questioning myself because i feel like he's also attractive (and more than i feel people like ryan gosling are objectively attractive)
>just in casual conversation it comes up that he's ftm, also mentioned things like he can't donate blood (i assume because he's gay)

Not sure why I'm sharing this, but I just felt like saying this somewhere and this is where made sense.

>>8434148
Now you gotta scissor. Just jam those manholes together, anon.

>>8434220
this post is bad and you should feel bad

>>8434148
Are you both FtM or are you a cis dude?

Because either way, FUCK HIM. And I'm jealous.

>>8434613
I'm cis, but I don't think it'll go anywhere 2 b quite honest. Already too autistic to get a gf, chances are i'm too autistic to get a bf too, plus if i'm reading signs wrong (which is very possible) i dont want to fuck up our work relationship

:^(

>>8430985
cigarettes have always tasted like butt to me but i used to smoke a fuckload of hookah and i tried pipe smoking for a bit before i felt too much like a fucking hipster

now i'd rather keep my teeth so i generally avoid smoking, but some days i still miss it. Shit was relaxing.

Hey lads, when you got on T did you go through a gender therapist? Use an informed consent clinic? Self med? How much did it cost? Do you wish you did anything differently?

>>8434888
>tasted like butt
like thats a bad thing

>>8434703
Ask him for a coffee you faggot

>>8436841
I did informed consent and I have health insurance so the two appointments I had to go to just had a co-pay of twenty dollars a piece. My T cost 40 bucks for a 10 dose supply or something like that.

I'd avoid gender therapists unless you want to talk some things out.

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tfw your boyfriend's health insurance provider dropped out of your state and the only candidate for governor that supported universal health insurance got his ass kicked yesterday so he's probably gonna have to take another job to afford top and T
I barely see him already Q_Q
what do i do ftmg

>>8437827
Start selling that puss on the streets and go to /r/steroids to buy him some T and then mail it to him

Is there a noticeable difference between female and male writing style? I certainly cant tell unless people deliberately try to write sassy or rough

>>8437662
I feel like I should talk stuff out, just to be extra extra sure, but I don't know

Thanks for the info

>>8438877
People like >>8437827 sound like a girl to me. Anyone really that types lower case or uses any emojis does to me, idk why. Though I know many guys type like that, it's usually more feminine ones

>>8439440
I get the emoji part, not really the lower case one though.

>>8439450
Not that anon, but it seems overly casual to me, in comparison to writing with somewhat proper punctuation and no emojis, which somehow translates to more feminine

>>8436886
tushé

>>8439440
yeah its very femaley when they try to sounds cute or like oh my god overly emotional and throw in emoticons but I think its deliberate same as guys trying to sound needlessly tough

Any of you lads sporting a beard or facial hair going in to summer? I shaved mine back this spring but let it bounce back because I hate my face.

>>8439450
same

Just curious, which of the following are you attracted to?
>Transguys
>Transgirls
>Cis guys
>Cis girls

>>8440784
straight ftm:
cis and and post-op trans girls

>>8440784
You know... I'm not sure, anymore.

I think it depends on the person, or the look.
Overall, dainty brunette or redheaded women... or like a ton of differing types of dudes: blond, brunette, black haired... most ethnicity.

I am trying to get in shape and I'm less into overweight or overweight folks, from a shallow standpoint.

I do wish I had a chill cis bf though... wasn't really with a dude before transition, but now I'm hell'a thirsty for D.

Is it gay if a ftm eats out another ftm?

>>8440784

gay ftm:
Cis guys.

i can't imagine myself with anyone else, and girls generally frighten/repulse me.

>>8439440
Nobody uses uppercase outside of 4chan and most people use emoji
She sounds like a girl to me too but what you pointed out is just normie speaking patterns


>>8440784
Transgirls, cis girls, femboys

>>8440950
>and girls generally frighten/repulse me.
Why?

>>8440784
Anyone I guess

bi ftm

>>8441001
Dunno about him, but I get repulsed by women because they remind me of myself pre-T too much
I'll still smooch one and shit if I'm drunk enough though

>>8441001
projected dysphoria maybe

I'm >>8440971 and I find FtM and toms really gross while cis men are just regular not appealing despite being similarly masculine

>>8440935
double gay

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Is voice change on T gradual or how that one time I went for vacation as a soprano and returned as contralto

Is it dependent on dosing (ie. is starting on a small dose and increasing slowly to produce gradual changes a meam)

Does having a lower voice as a female mean you're more likely gonna end up super low or that you already reached most of your potential (based on anecdotal evidence and probability so don't give me that "you do have a chance to go either way")

>>8441311
for me it was gradual on a normal dose but training my speech patterns and tone and shit to be more masculine made just as much difference to how my voice is perceived

>>8440784
Cis guys, manly ones.

Is it possible to train your voice to sound cis male without T?
Like by doing the reverse of mtf voice training?

>>8441573
Yes but you're limited by your vocal cords so results vary depending on how much you talk like a bloke already

Personally it only helped me with vocal strain but not really with passing

What are the symptoms of spotting? I've been on t for nearly 8 years. 5-6 years of being on the same dose of 1/ml each week. I will be getting a hysto after aug this year.

>>8440784
Cis girls, maybe trans girls depending how passable they are.

>>8441630
spotting is just very light bleeding

anything other than blood is probably just normal swamp discharge

>>8441804

Dont listen to
>>8441630 #
>spotting is just very light bleeding
"Spotting" is when your retinal blind spot expands in your cemtral vision abruptly. Very dangerous while driving.

>>8441630
Don't listen to >>8441938 - spotting is where you notice something from afar.

>>8440784
Theoretically all of them. I find bot men and women, femininity and masculinity hot. I like both dick and pussy, too. My one problem is that I reflect onto cis girls and other trans men, making things a bit more complex in how I approach that attraction. Tomboys are put of the questiom for that reason, even if I might enjoy them as being visually pleasing and would probably be into them if I was cis.

With that said, if I was cis I'd be 100% ftm chaser. Looking past my own gendershit, a man with a cunt is one of the hottest things I can think of. I will never not be bitter about the fact that my dysphoria isn't quite mild enough for me to enjoy it.

Since some people were interested, I got my Bad Dragon toys today. Medium Fenrir is fucking small so I'm straight up selling it as I know that it won't do anything for me, I need to buy it in large to have some challenge with knotting....... Medium Bumblehooves in medium firmness was fucking perfect though, fucking happy about that purchase. And the cumtube... oh boy. It's so fucking kinky. I might have overdone it with the cumlube amount too but jesus it was so much of a turn on. I also usually use a huge magic wand when playing with toys but with Bumblehooves I didn't have to, came easily with just my own hand because it was such a fucking turn on and felt amazing.

Expensive but totally worth it. The silicone BD uses feels absolutely amazing, so much better quality than my other high quality toys. I can't wait to get my 2nd custom order.