/hongen/ - Hon General

>>8398627
I pretend to be femboy

>>8398627
Sorry to hear that, anon. I started at 24 and I just started, but I know it will be really hard to not end up a hon and I probably will need ffs to pass.

>>8398627
They sense it and try to be as dickish as possible. I'm convinced of it.

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>2 yrs into HRT
>still getting young man'd
Just kys me now.

>>8398715
I don't feel like I'll ever pass even after ffs my shoulders are too brad in addition to my ugly ass face.

>>8398753
3 years been ridiculed, stalked, people hugbox me all the time then talk shit about me behind my back

>>8398791
Unless your shoulders are like 20" and you're 6'0 I'm pretty sure if you fix your face you should be fine

>>8398627
look at the positives
>you came out to family/friends
>you're on HRT
>you have long hair
>you've done electrolysis/laser I assume (and if you haven't that's why you don't pass)
>you have a job
>a home
>might pass one day with more time on HRT, surgeries and more effort into passing

even though you claim to be a hon I would trade places with you

ITT: should have repressed

>>8399035
I would've ended up jumping from a building if I did

>>8398998
I have 19 inch shoulders and I'm 5'11 not much better desu gunna be a twinkhon for life.

>>8399161
Well you could still get a cute face

>>8399206
I don't think that even matters considering I've never seen ffs fix a hun Adro boyish looking girls but twinkhons no prove me wrong you can't.

>>8399218
I mean if you want to think that feel free to I wont argue with you and try to look up pictures

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am I a hon?

>>8399246
People believe ffs is this miracle cure but I've never seen anything but angled photos and good lighting. I actually know people who have gotten ffs and they aren't happy.

>>8399291
It's not a miracle cure but it definitely can help. i know people that have gotten ffs and are happy.

>>8399273
Do I have any overdue library books?

>>8399273
>am I a hon?
Does a bear shit in the woods?

>>8399273
strangely enough, i think everyone would agree, >>8399291
this girl's aesthetic is better looking than many irl women

>>8398791
shoulder size

>>8399359
.....sorry, this comment was only in response to >>8399273

....it was supposed to look like this:

"
>>8399273 #
strangely enough, i think everyone would agree this girl's aesthetic is better looking than many irl women"

....meaning, that girl asking if she looks like a hon probably looks better than most url women strangely enough....good lesson for everyone on /lgbt/ (at least all the trans)

>>8399369
w-wha
why

>>8399364
Already answers that here I'm doomed

>>8399161

>>8399359
Was that a mistake quoting me in that?

>>8399411
Yeah, sry about that

....although might be true! lol

>>8399439
Sry about that, I am not OP

>>8399411
Anon post pics!

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>tfw didn't start hrt until 16
>tfw 5'6 size 8 shoe giantess
>tfw shoulders same size as hips
Kill me now

>>8399459
>tfw started at 12 and look like a cis girl

>>8399473
please be agp

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>>8398998
>tfw 6'0

tfw 5'2" because no legs

>>8398627
tfw 5'7 with almost 17 inch shoulders but I have a man face and I'm too poor to ever fix it. I was so close.

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>20
>5'8"
>18" shoulders
>14" hips
>size 9 shoes
>7" hands
>came out at 15
>people would accidentally call me a girl because of my long hair
>beaten, head shaved, and sent to a pray away the gay camp
My life is a joke. Not even sure if I want to try to transition before I kill myself.

>>8399459
Lucky you. When I was 16 I was already 5'8. Now I'm 6'0 and still repressing... Dis gon b gud.

>>8399907
>replying to bait

>>8399907
Also my feet were a men's 14 so...

>>8399446
I would blind everyone here no way never again.

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>22, 3 years HRT.
>Not out to anyone outside of immediate family.
>Too feminine looking to be normal male, too masculine to be a normal female.
>Dress in boy-mode, but people still give me weird looks everywhere I go.
>No plans to transition since I'd rather have people see me as a feminine gay man than a deluded hon.
>Horrible long-term dysphoria so chances are I'm going to suffer for the rest of my life.

just

end

me

>>8398627
Pls die

>>8399985
Your body isn't even that bad? Is your face bad? At least you can get ffs if that's the case.

>>8399907
When I was 15 I was already 6'. Didn't stand a chance.

>>8400003

When I stand next to cis women it's obvious that my body is a lot larger and more robust than theirs, even though in pictures the proportions aren't ~too~ bad.

It's the same with my face which is probably on the same level as my body.

>>8399273
Maybe longer bangs or a nonmeme haircut would help?

>>8399919
Being 6'0" isn't the end of the world anon, there are cis girls who are 6'0", I think you can-

>size 14 men's

Oh... Nvm.

>>8400302
why do you have to be a dick to her?

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>>8399459

>tfw didn't start hrt until 16
>tfw 5'6 size 8 shoe giantess
>tfw shoulders same size as hips
Kill me now

I'm willing to bet that there are LOTS of transgirls that would love to be in your shoes. Try not getting HRT until you are 30+ then we can talk.

>>8400427
its bait

>>8398627

I lost hope of ever passing within the last two months. I haven't even permanently removed my facial hair, yet, but from looking at my body I can tell nothing out now will make me pass. I'll just get rid of my facial hair and have FFS to feel less bad when I look in the mirror. But just "feeling less bad" isn't as high a motivator as "feeling more good." If feeling less bad is the best I can manage, suicide is the ultimate solution. I just don't want to die with my beard.

My long hair, my lips, and maybe my nose are the only thing I like about my appearance. I'm glad at least that I don't have a man's hairline.

>>8399035

>ITT: should have transitioned earlier, even if it meant being a dropout 15 year old tranny prostitute

Fixed that for you.

if you smell like a girl and have squishy bits i will gladly fuck/cuddle you, idgaf how many millimeters wider your shoulders are than cisgirls

>>8400422
Welcome to 4chan. Leave now while you can.

>>8398627
Why even make this thread? I'd date anyone you call a "hon". Hons don't exist.

>>8400898
*anyone*? even a balding prehrt like 40 something year old?

>>8400904
>like 40 something year old
Well maybe not that old, cause that's nearing twice my age.

But literally anyone else

>25
>Started hrt when I was 20
>5'10, 18 shoulders, nearly non-existent hips, angular face
>Hogboxed by every friend, yet always gendered male in public without fail
>Can only keep hoping and dreaming that I'll be able to afford FFS by the time I'm 30
>Even then my body is too far gone to pass

In a way I feel like I've gone back to repressing even though I still take HRT. Like I'll never pass so I don't really try anymore, instead I just avoid looking in the mirror and never talk to not break my mental image.

>"Pass"
Aka visibly trans.
>5 years hrt. Started day before 18
>Single since day one.
>Used to be 500 lbs now I'm just 200. Look like a wrinkled nut sack with limbs and boobs.
>Every guy who shows interest either tries to hurt me or use me.
>Live in a small town that your friends and family had to tell every single person you're trans. Strangers I've never met will comment on my transness
>2 attempted suicides in the past 3 years
>failed at that too.
Fuck me. I was born a hon, I'll die a hon. What's on tv?

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I just realized that 95% of what decides whether you're a hon is your wrist size. Your wrist determines your frame size.

6 1/2 inches or more= hon, large frame

6 1/4 inches to less than 6 1/2 inches= medium frame

less than 6 1/4 inches= petite

Of course, this only has to do with body size. Your frame can still look masculine even though it's petite. and your face can still be fucked.

>>8401173
>Fuck me.
Location?

>>8401200
843

>>8401212
Too far :(

>>8401220
:( oh well

>>8401196
>tfw 5.5 inch wrists
>still 18 inch shoulders and 5'11

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>>8399446
This is my body I'm fucked beyond all repair.

>>8401283
Might be the angle but looks feminine

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Its genetics.

You have to accept your lot in life sometimes.

Its a cruel existence, make life better for children and the future

>>8401196
Am 5'4 wrists at 6.25 please let me die

>>8400302
Yeah, IDK, I'm a fucking Bigfoot kek.

>>8400422
Meh, don't worry I've reached the point where I don't give a fuck anymore.

>>8399273
yea

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even if you are hugeee you can be a pretty girl, its all about proportions and taking care about yourself, this girl is 185 (6,5 ft ~210 lbs)

>>8401283
sup Tennessee

>>8401492
Huh? Oh god do my photos show my location again fuck I'm so stupid.

>>8401541
Im just recognizing you from femgen - you even had the same pose, silly girl

>>8401680
Oh okay um I really don't know what I am anymore. I definitely don't look like a girl and with a body like that I don't look like a boy either. If that's you in that photo holy shit.

>>8401283
besides your super pointy bewbs (which some cis women have too btw) ur body looks really cute and soft and feminine

>>8399306
best post ITT

>>8401736
You look pretty fem tbqh

>>8401767
Cone tits is what they are called and I've never seen a cis girl with a body like mine definitely never seen a boy with a body like mine either. Plus with my face I'm genuinely fucked.

>>8401915
are you H? if so you will be fine after FFS

>>8401736
lol no thats not me thats kickboxoing champ chick and she is HUGE but stll very fem instagram.com/katya_194cm_6.5ft
Im about 1,5x smaller lol

and you looked goo no wonder as I recall you've been on HRT for years, maybe getting a bit chubby would do you good if you want to be more womanly

>>8399459
>>tfw shoulders same size as hips
kek

>>8401283
i wish we knew how to repair humans

>>8401923
Yeah that's me I'm so scared of getting butchered even worse.

>>8401870
A lot of people used say I don't look fem at all. I'm even admitting I look like a twinkhon.

>>8401931
Oh she's really cute makes my psedobi tendencies flare up lol. I have thought of gaining weight but when I did it didn't go to the right places at all.

>height 5'5(168cm)
>wrist size 6''
How do I calculate shoulder size/waist size? Is it by measuring the distance between the bones or is it like the displacement? Sorry am a newfag

>>8403016
shoulder circumference is a better measurement, or just try one a girl's shirt and see what fits

>>8403036
Shoulder circumference is about 37" not sure if I'm doing it right though, I think I've got wide shoulders, is it true?

>>8403215
post pic w tape measure

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>>8403227

>>8403308
That's not your shoulders

>>8403016
you're smaller then avg male
but ultimately do you have the desire to carry you all the way through?
living as female is different and not easy when you're born male

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>6'3
>195lbs (p low bf% - summer cutting)
>huge hands and feet
>pretty good looks actually
I just want bica for silky smooth sensitive skin and female (read: almost no) body hair.

I like my testosterone. I just want it to hide a little more. A lot more. I want girl legs. And painted toenails.
I'll never ever pass as a girl but I want to be a cuter more feminine man.

>>8403786
If I had the chance/money and lived in the US the answer would be yes. Though I'm not sure if I'm just a fetishist or not. Practicality is another thing though
>Catholic School
>Largely conservative authoritarian government and society
>Mandatory military service in 1-2 years time.
>Not in the best relationship with family
So yeah I probably can't and shouldn't.

>>8403828
>Mandatory military service in 1-2 years time.
shit anon
do they force you to go to the front lines or something?
if so good luck

>>8403682
Nope, I live in Singapore, there are no wars here not even any nearby.
Happy about the fact that I probably won't die, but.
>Mandatory Military service of 2 years followed by reservice once every few years until 40ish I think?
So it's a bit sad to see 2 years of my life going down the drain but I guess it's better than dying.

>>8403921
another singapore anon here, if you dare to self med you won't ever end up in service

(how old are you btw?)

>>8403952
Well I mean that's great and all, but I don't want to seem like someone who dodges service, plus my intention was never to skip service and truth be told I don't mind serving. Won't there be like jail time? Also how are you gonna get the meds? I'm 16 1/2 in JC right now

>>8404003
I was kicked out partway through service for self medding

there's online pharmacies to self med, and ok admittedly JC is nuts and too painful to even consider part time work

use the NS allowance to self med if you end up enlisting regardless

>Singapore
If it's any consolation at least not born female means you escaped FGM.

You kinda have to get used to it... People assuming genders is just part of life. Non-trans people get it too. People still call me these things too. They mostly think I'm some gay guy or crossdresser.. but I get you

>>8404021
FGM only happens if you're like, muslim usually

and they're idk maybe 10% of the population

>>8404020
Sorry if I'm being too invasive and if you don't mind me asking
1.When did this take place? (Never know when military policies could change especially with shortage of manpower)
2.Did you start self medding before joining NS ?
3. How did they find out you were self medding during service
4. How Long did you serve before they kicked you out?
5. Did your parents and employers care (if you're still in Singapore)

Thanks!

>>8403921
>So it's a bit sad to see 2 years of my life going down the drain
Conscription is unfair enough on cis males but it must be awful for trans girls :(

>>8401362
>MAGA Hat

dropped.

>>8404105
1) literally 2017
2) i started during service, and then decided to be obvious as fuck until they got sick of me (i also declared i was trans fyi)
3) i told them. they can't stop you. legit. rofl.
4) 1 year ++ but i was only 5 months HRT when they made the decision
5) i'm 20, i'm not employed yet and i'm trying to gtfo from sg

>>8404130
forgot to mention about the parents bit. it's a cold war at home, but i managed to say i got discharged from NS on the pretext of depression/anxiety etc (my parents did know i'm trans, but don't know/pretend to not know i'm self medding)

>>8400893
i've been here since 2009 tbqdesu

>>8404120
i bet!

>>8398998
16" from shoulder tip to shoulder tip and I'm 5"10"

any hope?

>>8400197
>When I stand next to (more attractive) women it's obvious that my body is a lot larger and more robust than theirs
congrats, you're just like 80% of women in the world. i'm a straight leaning bisexual, and i think your body is pretty cute, definitely much more feminine than masculine. desu i would've believed you if you said you were cis, i'v seen girls that look like you.

>>8399459
Hey anon, pre-t FtM here. I'm one inch smaller than you and wear a size 11 shoe, and people still call me ma'am. You're pretty alright.

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>1 year hrt
>5'4
>14 inch shoulders
>super slim legs
>never had a visible Adam's apple so I don't need To do anything about it
>small hands
>size 6 1/2 shoe in women's
But
>fat distribution isn't going that well for me
>so no hips or butt
>cone tits
>roman nose
>generally face is manly as fuck so I get sir and young man like crazy

So fucking close I can't even be a fem boy with this face holy shit this sucks
I would take being bigger if it meant a more feminine face

>>8410564
I thought you were an FtM at first

>>8410564
Get ffs you'll be fine if you go to a decent surgeon

>>8401283
it really is good-looking and feminine. i've seen cis girls with body like yours. your boobs may be considered "conetits" but idk if that's an issue.

>>8399459
b my gf

>>8410136
>>8411229
>replying to bait

>>8411234
doesn't matter would still fug

>>8398627

>tfw just turned 20 today
>will end up being hon if I ever transitioned
>too scared to transition
>probably can't function very much longer without doing something

why is everything so hard I just want to die or not have to deal with being mentally ill tranny

>>8411320
Post pic I will give you an honest opinion on your chances

>>8411322
I'm fat so theres no way to know what my bone structure or anything looks like in great detail.

>>8411328
Lose weight then look at your bone structure. Honestly some people get lucky and have andro faces until their mid 20's.

>>8411331
I used to get mistaken as a girl when I was 12/13/14/15 sometimes because I had long hair and probably my face looked a bit girly because fat, but I don't think I'd get mistaken now. sometimes I look in the mirror and think I'm girly looking and other times I think I look like a man so it's hard to judge.

>>8411335
>sometimes I look in the mirror and think I'm girly looking and other times I think I look like a man so it's hard to judge.
Welcome to the club

>>8411340
If I thought I could pass I would try but being unsure or being pretty sure I couldn't means that trying is just a joke.

But the only other option is suicide and I'm probably too much of a pussy to do it but I mean I don't really have another option.

>>8411331
>tfw 29 and still haven't lost andro face

c-can i start being a man already ;_;

I'm guilty of this, called shop to see if they had what I wanted in stock, spoke on the phone to somebody transitioning MtF, used masculine pronouns when on phone... went into store and met hairy behemoth of a bloke with boobs, wearing lipstick and eyeliner in female cut top.

I think it was at this stage I realised people who are never going to pass, should just stay gay.

>>8411412
>I think it was at this stage I realised people who are never going to pass, should just stay gay.
You know what's terrible? I've posted my face 3 or 4 times and everyone always tells me I have a chance at passing. Not that I will probably pass or I wont pass, just I have a chance.

>>8399985
That is an above average female body desu, if you are 5"10 its extremely impressive. Remember most girls are 5"7 below so its only naturally you are going to be larger if you are taller

>>8411412
Meh, maybe the choice is being a hon or becoming an hero.

Passing might be the holy grail but it's not everything there is. Even if they don't pass, transitioning might help with their dysphoria.

>>8411564
Just stay boymode and only girl up with your partner.

>Tfw small frame, small shoulder, small hands, feminine jaw, big lips for a guy, pretty eyes, no brow bossing, big hips (for a guy)

Maybe I can do this...


BUT 5"9, Size 10 (UK) feet, receding NW1.5-2, 2cm distance from bottom of nose to upper mouth, greek nose (however same as sister's).

Well I guess a twinkhon is good enough

>>8399273
Nah, you look okay.

>>8410564
FFS and try gaining weight (or loosing and regaining, alternatively you can recomp fat by alternating starving and binging if you don't mind effectively becoming bulimic)

Bodies are much more important than faces imo (that's why you get all those girls with passable pics claim they're hugboxed