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Trans girl domme cis girl sub doesn't exist anywhere?

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Why is that the dominant trans girl and submissive cis girl pairings don't exist anywhere? if a trans girl is present than it's always one of two scenarios: either as submissive to a cis girl or dominant to a cis guy, with domination of cis guy usually involving penis.

And I don't mean that as a hyperbole, by the way, I mean it doesn't exist in any form in any medium, in fanfiction, in real life, in fandoms, in art, in porn etc. Trans girl cis girl pairings are rare to find anyway but when they exist the trans girl is always submissive or S&M isn't even mentioned or included.
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As a transwomen I want the reverse of that so much. In any pairing do you ever get transwomen as the dominant? Pretty sure it's just not in our nature.
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>>8391719
If trans women were doms, they wouldn't be trans. They just want to be beaten by their cis mommy gf
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>>8391783
>They just want to be beaten by their cis mommy gf
True.

The captcha was belts. Kek.
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>>8391755
>Pretty sure it's just not in our nature.
That's what I figure as well. With the risk of being accused of AGP I do think that pretty much every trans girl, including the non AGP ones, have a idolization of femininity and are desperate to be accepted by cis women. And that lends itself very well for trans women to be dominated by cis women but not at all for trans women to dominate cis women.

>>8391783
Well, no, theoretically it is possible. It's just that it, apparently never happens.
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>>8391719
Because such a pairing would get proceed to get flagged as profound predation. The tranny there would be judged as just posturing in order to get close to vulnerable women, the dominant kinks would be constantly getting construed as invalidating femininity, and the dominatrix meme would contribute additional expectation that if a tranny has to be a domme, at lest she should be domming men, who there just so happens to be an excess of subs of.
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>>8391719
>pansexual
>fat
Oy
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>>8391783
My god that sounds hot.
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>>8391755
>Pretty sure it's just not in our nature.
Why would that be?
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>>8391818
Yeah, this is probably the overall correct answer. Trans girls are already attacked and criticized from all sides, including from cis women who often feel uncomfortable around trans women, unfortunately.

There's a really good book called "the whipping girl" written by a trans lesbian woman about the relationship between feminism and cis women on one side and trans women on the other.
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>>8391719
that picture is inaccurate
a trans woman does not have fertile sperm
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>>8391828
It just wouldn't naturally come to be that I would want to dominate someone, would probably make me feel manly as well. I just want to feel looked after and protected by a dominate cis-woman who I would learn how to be a woman from. And we could be cute and cuddle together in bed for hours. Probably would be good to make up for lost time being girly with her too. And guys are gross unless there really feminine (but not flamboyant) but then they probably won't want to top exclusively.
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>able to reproduce
When did LGBT become filthy breeders?

Breeders and tumblrinas get out reeee
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It's because trans women tend to be even more insecure and self-conscious than cis women, I think? And they often have reasons to feel averse to the masculine/dominant gender role.

But I've seen a few dominant trans girls around. And I've got a bit of a crush on an online transbian Domme friend. Who is ridiculously sexy and ridiculously Domme, in a femme fatale way.
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>>8391854
I feel like this about wanting to be submissive and looked after and protected and cuddle together, but I want a man to do it with...

Not a feminine one either.
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>pansexual

Why invent yet another term?
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>>8391882
I've also though about if a man would be better for that, but I find men gross sexually, adore women sexually, and men I would get with would mostly be chasers, as they like transgirls a lot more, but the idea of someone touching my junk freaks me the hell out. Also I'm envious of every cute lesbian couple. The idea of a boyfriend to do all that stuff for me is still hot, I just annoyingly find men icky.
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>>8391885
please cut the panphobia
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>>8391905
This is all a fantasy anyway so the chaser thing doesn't matter to me. I do like the thought of lying in bed with a girl and playing with each other, but it feels kind of fake, like a wish to mess around but not have a full relationship. I get most envious of cis couples where they love each other and she acts feminine to him and he acts masculine to her.
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>>8391905
>Also I'm envious of every cute lesbian couple.

ALP is a bitch
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>>8391755
I could theoretically gently dominate a cute feminine guy or a shy timid girl.
But yeah, as you mentioned, a dominant girl as a romantic/sexual partner would be amazing.
(provided we're compatible as people)
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>>8391919
I'm terribly sorry.
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>>8391933
Alkaline phosphatase?
And I'm glad I'm not the only one with this feel, I always have to scroll past /clg/ fast as the thread photo nearly always makes me feel super envious.
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>>8391946
I sometimes read /clg/ and /r/actuallesbians, but never post there. For some reason, the idea of people of the same sex being genuinely in love with each other makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
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>>8391885
Because the 'bi' in 'bisexual' implies a gender binary.
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>>8392058
actuallesbians is trans-includive. It's actualactuallesbians among others that are cis-only.
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>>8392084
I know, I just don't feel that it would be impolite for me to post there, considering I'm bi, MtF and non-passing.
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>>8392084
I think you need to contact the mods to get into those ones anyway, so I'm not sure if they have many members.
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>>8392069
Correctly implies a gender binary. Transgirls are just girls. Deal with it.
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>>8392094
>I just feel that it would be impolite
fix
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>>8392058
Hopefully I'll get a warm and fuzzy feeling from it someday too, at the moment, I self insert when there's a cute lesbian couple picture online (rarely in real life though), then when I self insert as one of the cute girls I remember I'm basically in a man body now (only been on 'mones for about a month). Then disphoria hits me hard. One day I'll be in a cute lesbian couple though.
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>>8392094
I know that feeling, I feel like I'd be rejected if I try to join them too, seeing as how I'm also trans and not passing.
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>>8392094
It already has loads of mtfs, most of whom are probably non-passing. You could check for sure by looking at the ones who also post their pics on transpassing.

As for being bi, eh, who gives a shit? Just use the /lesgen/ policy of "if you're bi it's fine, simply talk about your lesbian side here and your straight side elsewhere"
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>>8391843
It was drawn by a cis pan (straight) woman who would never touch a transwoman but wants to look cool in front of her classmates
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>pansexual
>cis
>in the same person

...literally how? I'm confused.
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I'm a pretty solid switch. When I was on a date with my cis gf one time, I pushed her into a wall and kissed her, I've had her lick my feet, I've sat on her. But she does that stuff to me too, does that count?

>>8391874
Sounds like a role model but I'm just a dorky girlboy..
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>>8392141
"Pansexual" is a fancy snowflake word for "bisexual" meant to include nonbinary people.
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>>8391719

>tfw domme trans with submissive cis wife

Leading her around while she is dressed head to toe in a latex maids outfit is a joy beyond all things.
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>>8392209
how do you manage to be dominant? how does she accept being your sub?
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>>8392069
Which genders are.
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>>8392209
Storytime? You're literally the first time I've ever heard of that kind of couple.
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>>8392235

I didnt become a totally different person when I came out. I have always liked being on top, I was a strong willed, dominant blonde bitch before and I still am. My issue was/is my body not my personality.
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>>8392209
Learn something new everyday I guess.
That exists
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>>8392184
"Bisexual" is a fancy snowflake word for "faggot" meant to include nonbinary people.
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>>8392235
Massive amounts of psychedelic drugs, mostly
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>>8392209
Teach me your ways, senpai.
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>>8392457
>>8392334
>>8392311

Will post details in morning as it is late where I am, hopefully the thread will survive.
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>>8392522
>hopefully the thread will survive.
It will it will, /lgbt/ is one of the slowest boards on site.
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>>8392103
Sure, I agree.

However, gender is best viewed as a spectrum. That reduces transphobia, undermines sexism, and includes us enbies, which we like.
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TFW no trans girl to domme me or vice versa

I found a MTV domme once, but she was too sadistic for me
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>>8392557
>hasn't been to /hm/
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>>8392642
I've been to /u/ where there was a four year old thread at one point but that doesn't change the fact that /lgbt/ is a very slow board.
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>>8392162
>tfw nobody gives attention to my innocent pure feetplay
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>>8392612
You looking fir a transgirl to domme?
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>>8391719
because transwomen are more submissive than cis women
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>>8392612
whats a mtv
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>>8392612
Are you cis or trans, boy or girl?
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>>8392612
I could be, but I need for them to be local
>>8392792
Damn auto correct
>>8392802
Cis woman, not femme tho
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>>8392356
Bisexuality is still binary you fucking mouth breather.
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>>8392311
>>8392334
>>8392457
>>8392557

I have always been a bit of a feminine guy, I danced and sang as a child, I remember cross dressing when I was small and being very happy about it. I grew up with parents who ignored gender stereotypes generally but were quite conservative, my mother was a tomboy and my dad did most of the cooking, cleaning etc. However I also grew up with masculine sports loving brothers and age 10 as is tradition in my family I went to boarding school.

Contrary to popular memes these are not gay environments, they encourage homophobia, conformity and a complete rcjection of femininity.

Naturally I repressed, I severe suicidal suffered depression since puberty but didnt know why. I was good at being a guy however. I was confident, strong academically and athletically gifted. This experience gave me arrogance a sense of entitlement and a sense of self superiority that desu I have never completely shaken.

I was in college before I knew it and my life started going badly for a while, I had very unsatifying gay experiences (people said they thought I was gay, I thought it made sense at the time), turned to heavy drinking and drugs and had a relationship with a violently abusive girl and a controlling gay guy. I was trodden down and felt I was as shit as they treated me.

I then met the woman I have married, she was kind, a slight tomboy and bi, I fell in love and changed, resolving never to be beaten down again.

The anger in me subsided in time, I became more comfortable with my issues and eventually I came out to her. I was terrified at the time, I thought she would think less of me, think I was weak but she didnt, she accepted I had issues and she just wanted me to be happy, how she saw me didnt change.
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>>8391719
who introduces themselves first
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I genuinely couldn't imagine myself being dominant as a transwoman like, a dom should be someone who can be adored and respected and admired. Imagining someone feeling that way towards me is comical, I'm disgusting.
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>>8391719
>trans
>switch
>domme hard, sub hard
I don't know if I could be with a woman who was also a switch though, I want my subs to always be subs and my dommes to always be dommes. If I were into poly stuff at all, that'd be an easier solution but I'm totally monogamous to boot.
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>>8395483

Our relationship didnt change, I was the strong hardworker, slightly older and dominance came naturally.

We got into the fetish scene and that kind of gave me the extra freedom to be me. I didnt know how she would react seeing me in girl mode for the first time(difference between saying 'cool my partner is trans' and seeing you partner as another gender)so I blindfolded, gagged and cuffed her. I put on a latex dress, gloves and tights and I became her mistress, after a very enjoyable morning for both of us I took her blindfold off and the only thing that annoyed her was that she thought the dress looked better on me than her(its mine now).

I started dressing as a woman as often as I could(latex is soo good for eliminating my masculine features) and it just didnt seem to change our dynamic (I never use my male parts while dressed as it feels too creepy).

I still present in boy mode at work(though HR have me listed as trans)and for family
as I dont want to kill my career or quite significant inheritance, though I do regularly get ridiculed for my girlyness.

So thats all I can say really, thought it would give you an idea of how our apparently unusual relationship came to be, and what made me a domme.
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I am a trans girl with a cis domme female. I know trans girls who are dominant or switch, not submissive. This thread is giving me cancer.
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>tfw dom trans woman
>have ultra subby trans gf
>tfw not as good a dom as i'd like

end me
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>>8395483
>>8395577

Yay, story time!
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>be trans
>'mones for nearly 8 years and pass without thought or worry
>always managed to find a reason to not have surgery
>somehow dick still works fine
>only into girls
>enjoy topping girls
We do exist.. just rare as hell I guess to find the right mix of everything.
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>>8391755
Sub 6'4 man with a dom 5'5 transgirl. She lays on my back with her dick inside my butt.
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>>8391842
I've been reading this on my Kindle, since Jessica Udischas recommended it to me. It's really good, I would definitely recommend it to anyone who's even remotely interested in trans or gay issues.
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>>8391719
I like dominating the fuck out of my cis gf and I hate that I can never find any media that reflects it. Life is hell
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>>8391719
this is my ideal situation as a cis lesbian. i don't even like dick or penetration but something about a trans girl domming me is really attractive! it's too bad they're so hard to come by.
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>>8397612
Are you as rare as one that likes to top men or less rare or more rare?
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>>8391719
It seems kind of unavoidable, if you consider the very deluded relation patterns in bdsm.

The most notable tendency seems to be of submissives being catered to. Mind you, not overall, just in fetish terms. It's a particularly big issue with femdom-malesub pairings, and besides the ignorance of that blocking transdomme-femsub pairings, it also encourages "trans"sub-femdom pairings, but mostly in fiction, seemingly overwhelmingly made to appeal to feminization fetishists.

But yeah, the fact that the sub is often just taken for a ride is ignored, and that keeps the pairing from being acknowledged as generally harmless. And if it wasn't, people would be biased to assuming that transwomen must be too unstable to make effective dommes - actually, that's probably a perception that's facilitated by observations of transvestic fetishists.
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>>8405531
>Mind you, not overall, just in fetish terms.
Why not overall?

>It's a particularly big issue with femdom-malesub pairings, and besides the ignorance of that blocking transdomme-femsub pairings
I don't follow, can you explain again?
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>>8391719
It exists, there's porn of it, there're people on fetlife.
If anything trannies might be apprehensive about it or being open about it because there will inevitably be someone to accuse that it's proof that they're just a manly agressive man-pervert who only transitioned to fuck lesbians or some other nonsense.
See >>8391783
>If trans women were doms, they wouldn't be trans.

>>8391843
They could be if they're pre-op. Fertility doesn't just suddenly disappear on meds, it gradually reduces and can vary with different people, some are still fertile after years and I even read somewhere about a case where someone "regained" some fertility after it had been thought gone.
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>>8391783
>thered porn of it
where anon? sauce?
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>>8405587
Not overall, because: basic relationship economics. Because the femdom sexual convention is so contrived and obtuse, so warped around male expectations, it can only go hand in hand with very high demand for dommes and excess supply of male subs. So it's just almost inevitable for women who get into femdom to expect extra outside of the bedroom, for things to balance out.

>explain again
femdom-malesub pairings are fully expectable in common society, or in normal kink "communities", largely through closely imitating standard femdom norms. This would be something that the masses could be expected to eagerly commend, something that people would likely treat as perverted, but also with some sort of support for being perverse in a disciplined, very by the book way. On the other hand, the domme being trans is something so attention getting that it's inevitable to overshadow something like a highly satisfied submissive. Of course, with a male submissive, that's not really paid attention to, and conversely the thing that's noticeable in the kink realm instead is straight male subs discontent with not having a domme. They do seem to be quite vocal in being discontent.
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>>8391719
It does exist. It exists in my relationship, plus several others here. Like these gals
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>>8392209
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