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Do you ever think it's just never gonna work out for you,

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Do you ever think it's just never gonna work out for you, /lgbt/?

I have tried everything so far. Dating apps, from Grindr to Tinder, meeting people off the Internet (including this website), getting introduced by mutual friends, meeting people who attended the same school or course, I tried the whole "date your best friend" thing, meeting people at bars/nightclubs, even working up my courage to talk to strangers on the street a couple of times. I don't think it's meant to be.

All I get to have is casual sex, which, while fun sometimes, is absolutely no replacement for a loving boyfriend.

All of my friends and acquaitances have found a partner. I'm the last person I know who's still single. I'm happy for them, but absolutely miserable for myself.
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>>8390325
1. maybe you're unlovable
2. have you tried women?
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>>8390343
My interest in women is rare and purely sexual. What I want is a boyfriend.
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be honest with yourself & fix what's wrong with you
[spoiler]...or be my bf ;__;[/spoiler]
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>>8390542
I have done a lot of fixing and self-improving since my college years. In looks, career and personality/socializing.

And you're likely not anywhere near me, I'm afraid.
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>>8390579
Lower your standards. Most attractive gay men are airheads anyways.
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>>8390859
I agree, but by "near" I meant in my geographical area. I just now realized that sounded ambiguous.
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here's the thing... most women need an emotional connection before having sex with a guy. But most guys need a sexual connection first and two guys? Definitely need a sexual connection.

I have buddies I play with. They all know it's NSA fun and that I'm not looking for a relationship. But many of them start having feels for me once we've been fucking for a while.

So while you're more interested in a relationship, you may have to find that via casual sex.
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>ive tried every dating app
>all i get is laid

i chicken out when trans strangers say hello to me irl
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>>8390325
>Dating app
>Grindr
>All I get to have is casual sex
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>>8390325
I'll be Ur bf
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Modern millennial only care about casual sex. They're all deeply, deeply afraid of any real commitment outside of the e-space where they pour their hearts out in desperation for a "loving bf".

So the majority of them, esp. in the gay scene, just fuck all day until they're 30+ and riddled with tractmarks and STDs.

No love anywhere - after all, that's like, for losers, right? XD
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>posts attack on titan porn

this is why you can't get laid
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>>8390325

"Love" was created to sell greeting cards and chocolates.

If you want a relationship it takes work.
Compromise.
Give and take.

Nobody but your parents is going to want to support you while you sit on your ass playing vidya and trying on wigs.
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>>8391809
>LOVE IS LE LIE!!!!11

>now let me regurgitate mindless truisms I learned from some faggot at the bar or /adv/

Enjoy your open relationship, cuck.
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>>8391787

I dropped the show halfway through S1, I just enjoy the BL of it.
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Imagine being in a fulfilling relationship.
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>>8391821
>open relationship
>cuck
pick one. if you're both fucking other people literally WHAT is the problem?
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>>8390325
Sorry to break into you but dating and finding the right person are absolutely just luck. You know much like a shitty game with terrible drop rates you might be standing right next to someone who's compatible with you and not realize that.

Besides a lot of things go in consideration such as which country you are from, what's your body type/preference, what you would be willing to do and so on.

After all that even if you find the right person, consider that not everything will be flowers, the worse thing about loving and caring about someone is how they can hurt you, even if they don't mean to. A good relationship takes a lot of work and effort from both parts to work.

I personally, for example, know a few people that even if they were a perfect match with you, would never date you because you had casual sex before.
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>>8390325
>>8398052
To add to my previous post, have you considered if you are ready to make sacrifices for the other person?

Also I forgot sauce on the pic.
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man fuck you at least you get aroused by males

For me, I've lost attraction to women and I want to get fucked but the male body is nothing to me, if I imagine sex the dude is an amorphous blotch I just concentrate on dick

Walking on the street I look at dudes and it does nothing for me, absolutely nil

I'm stuck in a weird fucking limbo, I actually would fag out on grindr but dudes just arent really attractive to me yet I still want D

And I spent all my youth being attracted to females but couldn't get any, as I got older I look even better than before people LITERALLY compliment me now at 29 and say anon what the fuck why is everybody aging and you look fucking great women give me the attention now that I never got

And I get saddled with this weird fucking shit that doesnt even let me go this or that way
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>>8398052
Everything in life boils down to luck in one way of looking at it. Even people who are highly motivated and accomplished, even if they worked for it, are lucky to have physical ability to do that and having a brain/body that is physically constituted to perform well.

That doesn't mean you can improve your chances by putting in some effort to look good and convince someone you're worth getting closer to.

Everyone wants the Chad who seems to effortlessly glide through life and who never had to confront any kind of struggle or adversity. Real people just aren't like that.

You can also increase your odds by sheer probability just by moving to a big city with more gays per capita than ButtfuckNowhereville.
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>>8398052
OP here.

Last year I got so involved with someone who was super compatible and into me, and he didn't want to be with me in the end because I made the mistake of being honest and telling him I am ok with casual sex (even though I hadn't had any since meeting him). But that's fine, I don't want to be with someone who doesn't accept me as I am. I am completely faithful and monogamous in a relationship.

Sauce (check the art tag):
http://kawaiirinrin.tumblr.com/
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>>8398075
>I've lost attraction to women and I want to get fucked but the male body is nothing to me
psbi af
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>>8398947
Still sacrifices and compromises, even if you find the right person, that person might live in the other side of the planet. How you deal with that kind of issue is what's going to determine how successful your search and your future relationship is.
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>>8399147
I am a freelancer, I could be anywhere I want. Distance is not that big a problem for me.

In fact, I have been considering moving to Australia for the last coulple of years. Maybe the man I'm looking for is there...
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>>8390325
The problem is where you're looking. You really think you're going to find "the one" on apps that are notoriously known for hookups?

You need to learn how to be by yourself, because people will leave and you have to deal with it. If you can't then I don't feel bad because you've had a long time to figure this out, but instead keep jerking it off to pornhub.
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>>8400693
Did you miss the rest of the post where I talk about the other methods I've used? I've tried a little bit of everything, apps are just one resource in many.

And yes, even grindr can be a way to find someone. I have a couple of friends who met their SO there. Unlikely but not impossible.
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>>8400717
I didn't miss it I chose to ignore it because that shit only works in romantic comedies featuring ashton kutcher or cameron diaz.

Unlikely is saying it nicely.
Ask those friends in five months if they're still with that person. You know what they're gonna say.

Now I'm not saying to stop trying, just focus on you. Which of course will be hard because your brain can only focus at night about how much your body hurts from not having that warm manly body to huddle up against. Just be better. And then, just maybe while your away from your pity party, that someone will find you.
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>>8400733
They have been together for over two years I think.

I will be 30 in 3 years and I have always been single except for an 8-month unfulfilling relationship, and I've focused plenty on life and career goals throughout those years. I think I will allow feeling sorry for myself every once in a while.
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>>8400762
You smartass, shut up. "They've been together for over two years." shut the fuck up you know you made that shit up.

You can feel sorry for yourself, or you can feel better and do something worth your time than chasing after boys. Don't feel pressured that you're almost 30 and everyone else is in relationships, this isn't a competition.
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>>8400770
I didn't, though. Why would I?

You're free to believe it or not.
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>>8400789
Thanks for proving my point. Good night anon.
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>>8400796
>this is somehow proving your point

ok.
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Honestly, man, just keep trying. Don't give up. Your 30s are the best time to meet someone who has worked through most of their shit and is ready and able to have a solid relationship. You should see this as a positive.

Keep trying Tinder (and Surge and other gay rip-off apps). Gay guys on Grindr aren't looking for relationships. Guys on Tinder are. How much have you used it? There are a lot of duds and nonsense to wade through, but it's ultimately a powerful tool.
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>>8390325

I'm 32, still single, and felt the same way you do now when I was your age. Have had several unfulfilling relationships where it felt like I was giving everything and other guy gave nothing, or that the other guy misrepresented himself pretty severely. It's probably not what you want to hear, but it gets easier to deal with lmao. I'm not trying to insult your intelligence, you probably already know this, but trust me... You will be happier alone than in a bad relationship. The sad fact is that even if you move somewhere where there are a lot more gay people, you still have to deal with the fact that most gay men are kinda shitty.

A lot of other anons have given you good advice. It's just luck man. Always seek to improve yourself and your lot in life. Keep your close friends close, and your family too.
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Yes. I have clinical depression, there's things I don't like about myself, I'm not that attractive, and I can't seem to find love right now either.

I am thankful though that I've met a few people on apps like Grindr who may be potential partners, especially this one guy I've fallen for and desu if I can't have him it'll be pretty devastating for me since I think he's literally perfect and he's treated me me better than anyone ever has and makes me feel so special and happy when I'm with him.

Even if (probably more like when) it doesn't work out, I'm not going to just give up and wallow and feel sorry for myself for the rest of my life. I'm going to try to to be more positive, improve myself, and just keep trying to find fulfillment senpai.
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>>8400808
Both guys I fell in love with last year were met through Tinder. And you're right that it's more reliable than Grindr, I am just maximizing my chances.
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>>8400823
Thanks. I do rely on friends as much as possible, but they are too far and spread across different places (I move often too, I am living here since February).Family is not much support unfortunately.
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>>8390325

Gay men do not deserve long term happiness.

For the longest time, you guys were suicidal, the only way you could survivor yourselves was a beard, but even that would eventually fail.

The reason is that you're still a male and still built to have a long lasting relationship with a female, but your hormones and upbringing fucked you up which lead to your sexual attraction to males.

You're built to be complimented by a female, but you cannot main relationships with them (obviously, not your fault really). You're like a machine with the wrong voltage, unable to perform where you fit and unable to fit where you perform.

Essentially, when we were apes, we were aggressive, child-killing, mass raping fuck heads. We adapted monogamy and for the surviving branches of our species, that means living and functioning with a woman.

The only naturally occuring role for a gay man is the beta, the non-mating hanger-by that would normally be waiting to one up the alpha nearby. You have no desire to do this, so you just pity fuck each other and try to form pseudo-bonding.

It's similar for lesbians, however they are able to form long lasting 'partnerships', they believe these to be bonding, but in reality they are just the remnants of harem instincts, when multiple women would live together under a male. It just as much an illusion as monogamous, long term gay men (and the stats prove it) it just appears a bit easier and better for them from the outside.

You guys are cool, but honestly, forming 'fake' relationships with women are your only hopes. I really feel like gay men and lesbians should pair up and just find sexual gratification outside of this.
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>>8400998
Wow. Mr. Darwin over here with the well-thought out bait. Let me just hit you with a strawman, you're a goddamn sperg. Really. Human relationships are much more complicated than what you can explain from a natural/evolutionary/natural selection perspective. Males and females do not form better lasting relationships.

On average, male/female couples have around a 50% divorce rate.
male/male couples so far have had a 15% divorce rate.
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>>8401030

Your divorce rate stats are whack bro. The global average is wayyy lower and the American rates are dipping under a third for the last ten years amongst all marriage lengths.
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>>8400998
This reads like bait, but it's far too long. Did someone actually wrote that garbage and thought it was a well-thought theory?
>>8400656
Oh yeah just one more thing, keep trying, even if you find 50 incompatible guys you'll only find a compatible one by trying.
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>>8400656
>moving to australia
Why exactly?
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>>8400998
either all gays are trannies in denial or all gays are straights in denial

You people just can't make up your mind about perspectives you can't take. Typical output of ToM lacking sperglords.
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>>8401642
>ToM
wat
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>>8402044
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_mind

>Theory of mind (often abbreviated ToM) is the ability to attribute mental states—beliefs, intents, desires, pretending, knowledge, etc.—to oneself and others and to understand that others have beliefs, desires, intentions, and perspectives that are different from one's own.[1] Deficits can occur in people with autism spectrum disorders, schizophrenia, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder,[2] cocaine addiction,[3] as well as alcoholics who have suffered brain damage due to alcohol's neurotoxicity.[4]
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>>8401613
It just has so much of what I like.

>Nature
>Interesting cities
>Sun
>Endless beaches
>Cute boys
>Generally laid back attitude
>Gay-friendly
>Language compatibility

Although the cost of living is higher than where I live, I could still afford to go.
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>>8402136
>australia
>nature
rip dreamy anon

Also consider pic related

The best country in the world is still the US, although some backwater countries on europe are very close to it.

Still if you are serious about Australia be ready for some though banter. I never heard that aussies were cute though.
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>>8402136
Also since english is your native language, where are you from?
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>>8402065
>Theory_of_mind
No evidence this has anything to do with being gay or trans.
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>>8402248
English is not my native language, I'm just fluent in it.

I live in Western Europe.
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>>8402275
A positive side of australia is that it has a much better immigration system compared to the US, so props for thinking about it.
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>>8402295

Oh. Yeah, I'd never consider moving to the US. No offense meant.

One thing that really demotivates me though is how hard it is to get a visa for AU. I can't go there on a work visa because I already /have/ a job.
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>>8402309
Might be worth moving into the UK as well, some terribly cute boys there.
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>>8402413
They are, but I couldn't be away from warmth/sun. And the ocean.
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>>8402694
I live in a warmth country and I'm just tired of the sun, god help me if I have to deal with 54 degrees again. I think the UK has one of the best coasts in the world though.
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>>8402716
>*warm
Seems like the sun damaged my brain.
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>>8390325
I feel this way. Every time I start talking to someone that seems genuinely into me, they flake out when we make plans to hang out or go on a date. Without saying shit. I'm so pissed off about it. I'd be fine with them saying, "nevermind" or "I changed my mind", but disappearing and ignoring me really drives me nuts.
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>>8400881
You have good attitude, anon. After all, even if it doesn't work out, it proves that there *are* valuable people out there.
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>>8402716
Holy shit. Brazil?
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>>8405940
Perhaps, why do you ask?
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>>8406443
Just curious.

I always assume anons are American until proven otherwise.
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>>8407635
4chan is full of europeans too, UK has it's own thread here on /lgbt/.
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>>8395864
This is what a cuck tells himself as his girl goes out to get BLACKED every night.

Go rant at monogamy on >>>/r9k/ or something.
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>>8390325
Yeah, 10 years ago.
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