what are some good eggspotting tips? What should you look for?

I usually find them in nests, or in cartons near the dairy section of a grocery store.

>>8338418
>lots of protesting when girly stuff comes up: "Want to go ice skating anon?" "NO! I'm not gay or anything!"
>they blush really hard when you talk about girly stuff with your friends, and look like they're kinda listening and trying to look like they're not
>"I'm not gay, but im not homophobic or anything, i have gay friends" strange hinting about *something*
>plays as girl characters in video games with a prepared excuse instantly delivered when you ask why "oh i just like how they look and staring at a butt while i play"
>either very vocally opposed to trans stuff which is odd
>or silent about it
>they let you paint their nails. if they put up a fight, its a tiny little one thats over after one or two objections.
>and put makeup on them
>then you find out its really easy to go through their objections when its related to feminine stuff
>They have long shitty unkempt hair. it really needs to be brushed and conditioned.
>Alternately. Looks extremely unfeminine not in a deliberate way. Rather like they don't 'get' shaving, have a neckbeard, poor grooming, etc.
>they dont watch football
>interested in anime, vaporwave, or other subculture associated with insular and depressed behaviour
>has pics of catgirls / anime traps on PC
>goes on r9k but usually too timid to post
>became more obviously depressed / less caring of appearance as puberty went on
>more likely to identify as 'agender' first while not changing presentation at all in an attempt to reject entirely the need to adjust gender presentation through transition 'cause "gender is a s-spook"
>crossdresses for Halloween but seems slightly too into it / alternatively, is on the brink of tears the whole time a la Erin Transon in that one makeup video
>jokes about how cool it would be to have boobs but it isn't entirely for sexual reasons

>>8338556
>the clincher: if you talk about transitioning in hypothetical, their reasons for why they wouldn't are all "it wouldn't work out for me", "it's too much upheaval" etc. and not "I don't want to be / look like a woman"
>Ostensibly straight. Avoids straight porn because 'looking at the dick is gay'. seems to find lesbian intimacy/porn strangely relatable.
>Has thing for trans girls. (May or may not spend too much time protesting that 'it's not gay!' like all the others.) Doesn't seem actually interested in sex though.
>Multiple trans friends
>Thinks AGP is a real and serious thing that ISN'T trans, because it's the only magic get-out-of-trans card that lets them match the description of trans exactly, but claim they aren't.
>reacts violently an

>>8338556
freakishly thorough and accurate sounds like a phd study

>>8338561
whoops last line is meant to be
>reacts violently or with great anxiety when someone tries to take their photo or film them, constantly ducking out the way of the camera

remember that having just a handful of these doesn't really mean you're trans, it can mean any number of things including simple depression / low self-esteem, but if you fill more than half you probably need to take a long, serious look at your situation and think about whether your gendered physical and social traits make you more unhappy in yourself than you would be otherwise

>>8338556
>>8338561
>>8338579
this needs to be circulated around every high school and college in the country desu

>>8338418
What are some eggspotting tips for FTMs?

>>8338592
>They are not terrible people.
>They have a skill or a hobby
>They have personal ambitions and attempt to better themselves.

>>8338592
>refusing to be within 10 metres of makeup
>never seen outside the men's clothing section
>all about getting big biceps
>short hair
>huge pile of suits

>>8338592
probably a lot harder simply because it's so simple for many teen/early 20s FtMs to make the transition from having been allowed to present tomboy from a young age to gradually moving into more and more andro habits before coming out
all the FtMs I know honestly had a fairly easy ride socially speaking (except from parents in a couple of cases) compared to "men" trying to act feminine, or learning feminine habits in advance in the years before coming out

>>8338579
>reacts violently or with great anxiety when someone tries to take their photo or film them, constantly ducking out the way of the camera
Jesus fuck this is me.

>>8338496
I see so trannies like to climb trees and hang out in grocery stores. Interdasting.

>>8338680
AGP tomboys love outdoors play and even an HSTS has to earn her living somehow.

>>8338689
Isn't that just a fuccboi?

Heres an underrated one:

>works out/lifts weights a fuckton but never seems to enjoy or reap any rewards from it.

>>8338749
Hmm I know a closeted trans who is an alcoholic and is lifting dating a girl to prove to himself that he's a straight man and not a mtf despite having trapped when he was 18 and taken more cock than most 18 year old girls. You may be on to something there.

Why do you monkeys care so much about eggspotting. Leave those of us in denial alone. Transitioning or not, we're just going to end up unhappy.

>>8338904
Meh I was actually asking because I think Im too obvious and want to rectify it.

>>8338904
If you're posting here about being in denial you don't get to speak for trannies in denial.

>>8338561
>>8338556


everything checks except not into anime and I always avoided any dressups cause of guaranteed embarrassment

Im not trans btw

File: 1482541499686.jpg (310KB, 1230x1000px) Image search: [Google]

310KB, 1230x1000px

>>8338418
All "eggs" and """"repressors"""" are total men regardless of wether or not they're tricked into transitioning so what does it matter?

>>8338556
>>they let you paint their nails. if they put up a fight, its a tiny little one thats over after one or two objections.
What if I just have a feminization fetish and this kind of stuff turns me on?

>>8338418
So is eggspotting just slang for trans in denial?

>>8339122
Or the forcibly repressed (or the formerly forcibly repressed now broken), or the medically ineligible, or those with other bad luck-type situations that make 'lol just change!' about as useful as 'look him in the eye and give him a firm handshake'.

>>8338977
Is you mum a chic-kun? You sound like egg

>>8339165
>or just broken now
Yeah my dad used to hit me whenever I was doing something feminine and forced me to shave my head every few weeks or so. Im pretty fucked now desu.

>>8338556
>goes on r9k but usually too timid to post
jesus christ i had to pause for a minute

>>8339182
Im non binary

>>8340324
Fuck you

File: 12096500_910096442358784_3137749983046094745_n.jpg (82KB, 853x960px) Image search: [Google]

82KB, 853x960px

>>8338418
interesting thanks for explaining what eggspotting is with this thread. This really needs to be like widespread so people know how to help these kinds of people.

>>8339113
and you present yourself to me on a little platter?

making this too easy. you want me to study you and tell you if you're an egg or not?

>spoiler: you are.

>>8340447
We need people to help put us out of our misery.

>>8338561
>Thinks AGP is a real and serious thing that ISN'T trans, because it's the only magic get-out-of-trans card that lets them match the description of trans exactly, but claim they aren't.

Yep this was me for years.

>>8340473
Oh and before I knew what AGP was I was just a dude that wants to crossdress and be feminine, but totally not trans.

>>8340370
yes please

>>8340455
why are you so repressed though ;/

File: 1491722548017.jpg (169KB, 790x843px) Image search: [Google]

169KB, 790x843px

>>8338556
>>8338561

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE POSTING THIS SHOULD BE BANNED ALONG WITH THE MTFWALK

>>8338556
>>8338561
Omg i'm an egg.....like everyone except the liking lesbian porn one.

>tfw your whole life is a lie
what do guys?

>>8338561
I would actually add:
>avoids girls' clothes to the point where it's weird

the rest of it is painfully accurate and brings back memories of middle school ._.

Remember, everyone

Trans is a political/personal belief/opinion

The mental disorder previously known as "trans" is now "maladapted AGP"

>>8338418
Is eggspotting when you're trying to convince a friend they're trans and not just gay/depressed?

>>8340523
see >>8339264

>>8338569
it's an aggregation from a thread a few months ago that now gets reposted every thread.

And with good reason because it's pretty thorough.

>>8340618
How did you avoid girls' clothes?

File: 1495314146287.png (90KB, 334x400px) Image search: [Google]

90KB, 334x400px

>>8340582
>this is also the pre-hormones-because-parents-are-retarded ftm walk

>>8340734
some lines sound like what I have posted about myself is agp thread, spooky

>>8341993
Either you posted it in egg threads too or someone with the same experiences did.

Which lines?

I think I've identified 6 key stages in the development of the onset of gender dysphoria

I: UNEASE
A lurking sense of unease that something is wrong in your life that can be easily mistaken for generic depression or any other number of common life problems.

II: MISDIRECTION
You recognise there is a problem and attempt to blame something else on the feeling- being fat (in my case), being too weak, choosing the wrong career path or education, etc. and attempt to fix the feeling by tackling that issue(s).

IIa: This results in positive feelings for a while; a sense of purpose and achievement. However, after a while, the uneasiness returns stronger and with greater depressive qualities. Repressors loop between II and IIa until they start to crack.

III: DISGUST
When the feeling returns it is accompanied with a sense of disgust, like you would feel if you fell in mud during a walk and had to walk all the way home before you can wash off. This is accompanied by increased anxiety.

(cont.)

>>8342064
IV: RECOGNITION
Eventually you start to recognise that the feelings of disgust are attached to gendered traits on your body.

V: DE-FAMILIARISATION
As the anxiety and depression grow, you start comparing your body to those of cis women and recognising the social differences between the genders. Increasingly, you lose familiarity with your own body- in the earlier posts I described this as "Ever lost a tooth and then afterwards when you use your tongue to feel around in the gap and the region feels big and foreign and distorted somehow? It feels kinda like that, crossed with the sinking feeling you get in your chest when you find out a friend has betrayed you, and it occurs wherever/whenever you are reminded or made aware of a gendered trait in your body".

VI: ESCALATION
By this point, you've usually realised you're transgender unless you've built one hell of a repression wall or not encountered the topic properly so far growing up. The anxiety and depression and recoiling sense of disgust at your own male body continue to grow until you break down, either heading back to II as a repressor as previously described until the next time they break down, starting transition, or committing suicide rather than confront it.

>>8342072
>A lurking sense of unease that something is wrong in your life that can be easily mistaken for generic depression or any other number of common life problems.
>the sinking feeling you get in your chest when you find out a friend has betrayed you, and it occurs wherever/whenever you are reminded or made aware of a gendered trait in your body
FUCKK
THIS=ME

What sucks is having gender dysphoria (the mental illness) but not Transsexualism (the political belief)

>>8342083
For me that feeling ia alot more like anxiety. Like you suddenly have alot of energy and feel like there's something urgent that needs to be done on a tight timetable but you have no idea what it is, and that energy just gets bunched up in your chest and stomach and makes it hard to calm down, which for me is extremely out of character. I'm always calm and sort of level around other people. But occasionally I get really bad anxiety attacks. When I do it feels like im going to die by catching fire from the inside. Like butterflies in your stomach, except the butterflies are flocks of eagles or fighting over fish. This only happened in front of another person once in my whole life and they thought I was crazy afterwards for like a week. Every now and then when I think too hard about certain things I get like that if I can't just sigh away those feelings.

>>8342083
>Transsexualism (the political belief)
please dont force this silly meme
you conflict might be between biological and social

>>8340582
how do I actually walk properly this image makes me want to kill myself

File: spooped.png (805KB, 1600x900px) Image search: [Google]

805KB, 1600x900px

>>8342123
GET OUT OF MY HEAD / ARE YOU ME

>>8342147
David.

>>8342051
>>Ostensibly straight. Avoids straight porn because 'looking at the dick is gay'. seems to find lesbian intimacy/porn strangely relatable.
>>Has thing for trans girls. Doesn't seem actually interested in sex though.
>trans friends

>>8338556
>>8338561
>>8338579
DELETE THIS NOW
though i don't really want to transition i still want to be a strong alpha male desu but it eats away at me

>>8339122
Or just didn't know there was another option. The only trans people I grew up knowing were 50 year old men in red cocktail dresses and shitty make-up. Or tumblerinas that are obese crazy and believe in 1748193829 genders.
I went to school in a small town and lived in the countryside. I've been struggling with the feelings of being trans and I thought I was truely alone with them. Before discovering that I was trans I was probably a month from suicide.
I would've just needed some kind of awareness growing up and I would've suffered a lot less.

File: IMG_0493.gif (46KB, 353x200px) Image search: [Google]

46KB, 353x200px

>>8340582
FUCK OFF WITH THAT PICTURE YOU DONT KNOW ME
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>8342064
>>8342072
FUCK OFF I can't deal with these feelings
t. Mtf one hormones for one day so far

>>8342841
> for one day
congrats on making this important first step, you are a brave girl

>>8342141
lmao

id give advice but im a cis autist so i dont even understand why someone would change the way they walk for social reason

walking is for moving from one place to another, not demonstrating your identity

>>8342914
Do you mean it ;_; I just need to be told everything will be okay. I just feel so emotionally weak at the moment.

>>8342973
Haha I actually felt like that too the first week or so. It was so weird. I've never been so vulnerable in my life.

>>8342973
yhea, It took me really long time to make that step myself and Im still not sure if it was the right thing to do...
I would love to reassure you, but I cant even reassure myself. I hope will make it
not like there is much to lose anyway...

>>8342973
you're trying, that's the greatest form of success there is because you know that whatever happens, you've done what you were able to do to make things go the best they possibly could
there's nothing satisfying about being born into success or sleepwalking into it
suffering and vulnerability and sometimes failure are key to living a content life

>>8342973
and also
you're a good girl <3

>>8343339
>>8342980
>>8343001
Thanks for the kind words girls, it means a lot. X
>>8343346
Being recorgnised as a girl feels so good it makes me want to cry, I've been emotionally disconnected for so long. XX

>>8343594
Meh im still on the fence about everything despite being on hrt. I seriously hope that I'm wrong about everything. most of the time I just want to die now. But hrt has made me feel really alot better and that kind of troubles me. I keep saying that if I actually am a tranny I'm just going to kill myself. It's starting to like it's about that time.

>>8342141
Look straight ahead, keep shoulders relaxed at your side, but not hunched, keep neck straight too

>>8342072
VI. Yeah, that's been me for 3 years. However, suicide is never on my mind any more, nor is self harm. I just break down once or twice every one to three months, as I have for the past two years...without any inconsistency yet.

>>8343898
IDK, maybe I get there, someday. Good luck anon.

>>8343898
you also get what I like to call The Nether Zone, which is the period between accepting you're trans and need to transition and actually taking the steps towards transition (in my case ordering HRT on spooky websites, maybe coming out or doing social changes first for others?), which can last anywhere from mere hours, to months or even years of procrastination and anxiety with a lot of pink fog inbetween.

File: danbooru_unf-p-114049094320055-orz-.jpg (7KB, 480x320px) Image search: [Google]

7KB, 480x320px

>>8340582
Why does this picture exist

>>8345958
>tfw been there for like 3 years

>>8338556
>>8338561
>>8338579
I'm all these except maybe 2.

>>8342064
>>8342072
I've actually went through all of these stages and have been stuck on the last one for years.

>>8346238
>>8346288
jeez, at least get on blockers
get on bicalutamide and you won't even lose fertility in the meantime
then you can always start estrogen later on without getting more masculine in the meantime and hurting your chances by waiting

>>8338592
>always wearing a sports bra instead of a normal one because "its comfy"
>wearing hoodies/sweaters/jeans even when its extremely hot outside
>doesn't shave
>tries to seem stronger than they actually are (refusing help from others when lifting things, etc)
>looks depressed in formal occasions where dress/skirt is required
>only cosplays male characters if they're into the cosplay scene
>odd tone of voice (trying to make it lower)
>avoids swimming
>pretends to be into stereotypically masculine things like cars, hunting, etc

>>8345958
Don't forget the Jagged Exponential Rise of Perfect Hell, or the beginning of transition where it's overly emotional and as you slowly but eventually increasingly quickly come out of your shell you deal with setback after setback. I'm at this phase end me