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• Makeup tutorials : http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
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• IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg

Previous thread - >>8335845
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>>8337922
Cashiering is legitimately the worst job in any grocery store it's so stressful and monotonous
;_;

>>8337953
She must have been a fountain in kebabland
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:/

The dream is gone.

\:

We had fun though..
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>>8337959
>tfw
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>mention to my sister I'm going to a guy's house that I don't know
>she gives me tips on how to stay safe just in case he's a creep

I love my sisters~
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>>8337962
fuck off slut
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Respond to this post with your favorite place to go out to or your breasts will come out with one side as an A cup and the other as a D
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>>8337959
>tfw part 2
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>>8337968

I like to go to smash tournaments
that's kinda it honestly
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>>8337964
>>8337969
I do a lot of drugs, what's your excuse?
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>>8337959
Retail in any form is just awful
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>>8337966
aww sweet she's coming concerned about her little sister :3
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>>8337959
>Cashiering is legitimately the worst job in any grocery store it's so stressful and monotonous
>;_;
Yeah im sorry you still have to deal with it. But not for much longer!!
Also
>talking to faye when you scolded me for doing so
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NEXT TIME ON THE NEW SERIES OF BLACK MIRROR
http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/23/mum-and-daughter-tricked-into-licking-feet-of-poundworld-staff-who-rode-them-like-horses-6656279/
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>>8337968
I like being in my car at night when it's raining. Does that count?
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>>8337962
beanboy
what you've got to remember is that literally every person who enters your life is also going to leave it at some point, no matter how good it gets- whether it's by breakup or by death eventually- and you'll do the same to everyone who ever knows you, too
enjoy the time you are given with people rather than trying to artificially prolong it and you'll be much more satisfied
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>>8337974
Ughhhhhh it's so hard not toooo it's like poking a bear with a stick
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>>8337973

I also told her about how some strange man tried to touch me and she said "you ain't seen nothing yet"

being a woman is scary
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tfw elanna and faye will never hold you down and puke on you
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>>8337986
>ywn go drinking with elanna until one of you pukes and the other has to hold the others hair back while they spew into the toilet
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>>8337971
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>>8337971
My dad was dying in my arms?
I ran too hard once?

You know it's obvious when someone has an issue with something, because self centered people tend to see their own problems in others

So what's your fascination with it?
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tfw just ate some food I normally eat and now want to puke.
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>>8337987
thats pretty good too. tfw no tranny gang to dominate the streets with
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>>8337984
yeah the whole dynamic of how we approach and interact with people changes once you're full time

it's def in our best interest to be cautious
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>>8337990
>I ran too hard once?
That nasty exhausted nauseous state you get into if you exercise to much. I'm getting it over dong easy tasks, and even thinking to much. CFS sucks.
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>>8337968
I like walking on the train tracks :>
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>>8337996

I guess this is my life now
what's up, Korra?
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>>8337996
Being cautions means you will show that you're nervous and thus can clock you
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>>8337990
You seem to puke due to mildly stressful situations so it's funny to imagine you as the soldier nobody wanted to sit beside on the helicopter
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>>8338000
eh its not so bad. you don't need to be nervous or afraid but like consciously aware of where you are and who you're with on case things ever go wrong and you're not caught by surprise you know? it's one of the reasons I like to stay sober so I can always have my wits about me

uhh things are on the upswing still, my waitressing job is going okay and I recently purchased a car from my friend.

the only thing holding me back rn from from driving it is not being able to afford insurance with my current finances so I'm job hit for a second one to supplement my meager income

besides that enjoying my apartment by myself and get really trying to keep pressing forward no matter how hard it is

im trying to be a flight attendant within the next 3 years or less
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>>8337968
I don't go anywhere bc no friends
I want super boober anyways
>>8337967
Why so angerey
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is being a nurse trutrans or agp
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>>8337975
http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1297922&page=1

Well at least it didn't end with your bosses fiancé sodamizing you
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awoo or uwu
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Why is my dysphoria so much more violent on evenings...
I can't even play vidya games, I just get bored, get a dyphoria attack, then go to bed as soon as possible...
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>>8338003
It only happens when I'm emotionally invested, in rarely emotionally invested
>>8337998
._. The worst
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>>8338021
just b urself
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>>8338009
>working a second job
Being poor must really suck lol
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>>8338009

I guess... I keep feeling kinda paranoid now. Maybe I'll get used to it. Glad things are going well for you.
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>>8338018
Annnnd that triggered me somehow.
COMPLETELY RANDOM FEELINGS PLS STOP UR NOT FUNNY
>>8338027
> pic related
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How do I b myself
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>>8338033
it gets easier with time believe me. the longer you spend full time the more comfortable you'll get being urself

>>8338032
i dont get what's funny about that at all
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>>8338044
It's not. People r just mean.
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>>8338041
get hobbies. find out what you like and believe in.
>>8338036
sor
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>>8338044
It's funny because you're in your mid 20s and don't even have a good job.
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>>8338050
Lol, not your fault, I even like the image, it just made me cry a bit for some reason.
And definitively awoo.
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>>8338053
i fail to see the humor in someone having a job and aspiring to more in life. everyone starts somewhere we all can't be born into wealth
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>>8338053
If you think this will change in her 30s
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>>8337968
A bookstore where i get classic literature and academic books. Didn't get into uni 2 years ago and ive just been NEET and educating myself in fields I'm passionate about but that I'll probably never get to contribute to because I have shit concentration and organization skills and can't succeed in school, so I'll never be more than an amateur to society.
>tfw you will never be a girl
>tfw you will never be a professor of philosophy
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>>8338061
Does it matter if we're real
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>>8338058
By your mid 20s, you should have life already sorted out, graduated college and have a career already.
Sorry that you're a loser.

>>8338060
Probably won't
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>>8338060
Too bad you can't buy a personality or an SO with all your money you vapid cunt
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Hey mtfg, why am I still so scared to do everything? If I know this is what I want, why am I so frightened?
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lol not even worth a pity (you)
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>>8338069
fuck off. Your opinion of "should" is bullshit. not everyone can be idealistic
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i just finished my book :c

Its so bad I deleted half of it.

Feels good to complete something at least.
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mood
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>>8338069
>I never had any childhood problems or trauma and get to get to go to school on daddies money: the post
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>>8338076

doing things is scary
just gotta push through it
uwu
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>>8337968
I don't usually leave the house
There's a stretch of road near the military base that is quiet and calming to drive down with the windows rolled down and with the wind in my hair as long as no one is flying into the base
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>>8338089
From experience, that only works if your willpower > your fear.
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>>8338079
That is why you still live with mommy and daddy.
Korra wouldn't be in financial troubles if she was actually smart and motivated.

>>8338084
My parents never paid for school. I was fortunate to win scholarships and was in the NJ stars program which gave me a free ride.
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>>8338094
>My parents never paid for school. I was fortunate to win scholarships and was in the NJ stars program which gave me a free ride.
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>>8338089
>>8338092

Doing things is very scary.

But hormones give me +10 will. Sadly, they are illegal and also give me shame.
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>>8338094
what is student debt
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>>8338097
It's called being a good student.
Were you a shitty student who kept failing?
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>>8338099
Well if you somehow manage to get desperate enough to do thing out of spite, you get infinite will power, it's not safe for life tho.
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>>8338101
Post scholarship acceptance letter.
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Am i a loser, guise?
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>>8338101
>suffer dysphoria as a teenager
>can't succeed in high school because you constantly want to kill yourself
>can't get scholarship bc poor grades
This isn't difficult
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>>8338100
Student debt is for those who couldn't get scholarships or into programs because they were either lazy wth not applying to them or applied but had no luck. I was luck in that aspect.
Even if one is to have a loan, most loan services will only take out what a student currently makes
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>>8338101
You know when you have dysphoria and are insanely depressed because of it during puberty, aka highschool, its not always the easiest thing in the world to get good grades. You would think you would understand that posting on here of all places.
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what does it mean when a boy calls you attractive
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>>8338100
>>8338101

A good student who works hard and finds the right scholarships and is poor enough and has just the right amount of weird things could, in theory, get a free ride.

>>8338109

>Never went to high school
>Get GED at 16, 96th percentile
>This is about the time when the dysphoria started, even if I didn't know
>First semester of college: straight As
>Second semester: Academic Probation
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>>8338106
My letters are long gone. You expect me to keep letters that are 7 years old?

>>8338109
I had Dysphoria also but I didn't let it stop me from achieving in school.
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>>8338117
That is true also.
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>>8338018
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>>8338115
it means he thinks you are cute i think not 100% sure
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>>8338118
>doesnt keep scholarship letters
Confirmed larping.
>I had Dysphoria also but I didn't let it stop me from achieving in school.
Congratulations on being a transtrender who didn't actually have dysphoria and is only now pretending they did.
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>>8338118
Dont kid yourself.
Everybody knows academia is based upon your family structure, community, and schooling during adolescence.
I graduated with a 3.9 gpa in HS but literally didnt know how to study well enough to get through my first semester of uni.
Upbringing/background is key.
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>tfw u were a model student and graduated high school in the high 90s and then dysphoria became too much and u almost flunked out of uni
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>>8338026
I'm beginning to understand why some doctors say they would rather have AIDS than CFS. God this sucks. It's even robbing me of thinking. I'm a brain user. I think, design, and program.

>>8338072
She grew up in an abusive home, then was further abused later. That shit really fucks you up.

>>8338097
She isn't the only one to get good grades. I got into community college between 7th and 8th grades due to having excellent grades. Then into college with a full ride.

>>8338109
>>can't succeed in high school because you constantly want to kill yourself
I succeeded despite 2 suicide attempts, and nearly being killed by a beating by bullies.
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>>8338125

wat 2 do when boys think ur cute
he's also pretty fucking cute
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>>8338067
...are you asking about transgender people or the nature of reality?
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>>8338101
>>8338112
even as a "good student", I didn't win enough scholarships to get a full ride - all I had was something for getting a good score on the SAT

You're either exceptionally smart, or exceptionally accomplished. Most people are neither, and have to either pay for their own tuition, or beg someone else to do it for them.

Still, I fundamentally agree with what you're saying in that it's entirely in someone's power to to get a college education if they can feed themselves and complete their work.

>>8338117
>>8338135
>99th percentile in every standardized test I've ever taken except the ACT
>3.5 GPA my first year of college
>2.9 GPA third semester
>had to resign my fourth semester because I realized I was completely off-track and needed to re-evaluate what I wanted to do with my life
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>tfw 3 hours til date with cute boy and no idea what to wear
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>>8338128
>you didn't get depressed when having dysphoria so your Dysphoria must be made up.

Great logic there

>>8338132
Probably because you didn't know what your strengths and weaknesses were in your type of learning style.
I would tackle each subject with a different or same learning style.
My upbringing had nothing to do with it.
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>>8338101
yes
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>>8338094
I just graduated high school and I'm 18. I'm starting college this fall. You can't even strawman when you know nothing about me, you three-legged mongoloid. If anything, I'm going down the ideal path you're using to ridicule Korra with
>>8338147
Nature of reality
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>>8338141
kiss them i think
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>>8338150
As I said, I got lucky by being placed in the nj stars program http://www.njstars.net

I was able to get a free ride for the university I went to.
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>>8338150
2.9 is what qualifies as off track?
I managed to crawl back from a 1.9
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>>8338150

It really gets into everything in life, doesn't it? I enjoyed learning, I was excited for school, and that was taken away from me.

Granted, I picked business as my major, but it was the only thing that felt right at the time.
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>>8338153

something... cute

>>8338160

!!! WHAT
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>Hey I'm bored, I should masterbate

>What should I think about
>is my brain going to think about hot chicks?
>oh wait nope
>I'm going to think about how it feels the next day after you've gotten pregnant, but still don't know it yet, and you're sitting there with your future husband having brunch in a cafe
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>>8338153
Should one ever consider meeting up w a chaser irl? He claims to not be about sex
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>>8338150
>Pretty good grades all throughout high school
>Grandfather willing to pay for basically all of college
>Combination of dysphoria, depression, ADHD, and general lack of ability to live alone cause me to flunk out in a year
I done fucked up.
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>>8338170
k i s s
i
s
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>>8338162
I don't live in NJ, but I qualified for NMSQT

>>8338165
Oh, I thought I was going to fail half my classes my third semester, and had to drop three in my second after spending a week in inpatient.

>>8338167
>Granted, I picked business as my major
there's where you went wrong. If you love learning and you're picking business for a major, you need to rethink some life choices.

>>8338174
I should probably ask my grandma if she can help, but I don't feel like I'm that close with her...
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>>8338174
>dysphoria, depression, ADHD, and general lack of ability to live alone
are you fucking me
and by that i mean are you me, though the proposition stands
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>>8338176

but what if he doesn't think of me like that
he's known I'm transitioning since day 1 and has been commenting on changes he notices, so he could have just been complimenting me without trying to flirt
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>>8338173
Oh he's not a chaser though, met him on OKCupid, told him I was trans after a couple days of talking to him over texts an such.
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>>8338170
And yeah that's the problem I don't know what'd be cute rn I showed him too many of the main outfits I use this week we've been talking
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>>8338185
well if you kiss him you can know what is or isn't ;]
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>>8338183
Actually, now that I look at it, if I had gotten a 680 on the essay portion instead of a 620, it would've gotten me a full ride to a lot of places. Funny how that works out.
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>>8338183
It could be the thing that helps you get closer to her, or it could risk her getting mad that you just want something from her. Still, if she cares about you she could help.

>>8338184
Pretty much, you're just the pesimistic console version of me, seems like.
And if you came out to visit I definitely COULD be fucking you...
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>>8338183

It was a combination of factors. At that point I was 20, 21, starting to realize, hey, I might actually be a girl, terrified that I'd fail as a person if I didn't get into school right that very moment, and the fact I tended to just kind of accept what people told me at the time.

I'd been working retail at the time, and when I do a job, I do it well, and I was in control of my own little area, so people kept telling me I should go to school for business; I think a part of my parents still think I should, even if they accept that being a nurse is probably the best career path for me.
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>>8338190

what the fuck
I DON'T EVEN KISS PEOPLE
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i have to work everyone please be good to eachother
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>>8338150
>You're either exceptionally smart, or exceptionally accomplished.
I was both.
Now that I look back on it dysphoria was a major contributor to my dropping out my second time in college. I didn't realize it at the time.
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>>8338203
you and him soon
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>>8338135
>tfw top 10% of high school class and graduated college with high honors but haven't been happy in ages
Grades are meaningless if you hate yourself and wanna die on a daily basis desu
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>>8338202
>being a nurse is probably the best career path for me.
You could always end up a head nurse...
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>>8338209

Korra WTF
but he walked me to my car when we were done hanging out and we had our arms around each other (I initiated it) and I got kinda... well I'm really sensitive to people touching me
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>>8338172
hot

>>8338108
no, you're one of the best people I know.
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>>8338198
>pessimistic console version
this sounds borderline insulting

ok i'll keep that in mind for..... further referece
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I have no idea what I'm doing in my life and there is like no possibility of me being able to go back to school while trying to pay bills every month living alone

is this the end
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>>8338189

I dunno, I've never been on a date.
I might wear a dress personally?
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>>8338198
I'm not sure if I want to get close to her. I know she was supportive and knew I was trans well before my parents did, but I still don't want to get hurt.

>>8338202
>I tended to just kind of accept what people told me at the time
:(
this is how most transgirls end up waiting until late into their 20's to transition.

>>8338208
The only reason I pushed through college when dysphoria was hitting hard was because I knew my parents would essentially pay me to run away if I told them I was going to do college. Now they're cutting me off because they realized what was going on.

I'm probably just going to take the next year off and stabilize everything, probably have SRS done or something.
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>>8338220
If you get your gender changed, you get more opportunities for financial aid. Use them.
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not ok atm
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>>8338219
Lol, no offence met, you just seem generally a lot more sad and depressed than me. And you play consoles when I play PC.
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>>8338210
They mean nothing to you personally
They do open doors though
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>>8338227
male privilege at work i see

maybe ill go back to school when im in portland with kara and after i get my birth certificate changed
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>>8338221
leaning towards a dress with leggings that I wear sometimes

https://unsee.cc
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>>8338234
kari is a cute
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>>8338229
:^)
don't forget neurotic!!! i'm also more neurotic

and yeah we should play WC3 again but i'm terrified of my 700 ping
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>>8338214

That's where I'm thinking I'm heading. I'm not sure how I feel about all that responsibility, but if it increases my chances of helping people I'm all for it.

Not to mention, I hear that the medical community, and hospital workers more so, are really tolerant and accepting of each other. Kind of like a "we go through a lot of shit already, we don't need to give it to each other."

I'm considering applying at the hospital and the surgical center when I renew my CNA.

>>8338220

This is life. Your tutorial is over. Now comes the part where you git gud

>>8338223

I am 28 and just now starting. I know that I'll never look good, but I couldn't keep going any longer. It's probably for the best, though. My family was not in a good place when I was younger. They still aren't; my mom hates being with my dad. But I think if I had come out back then, instead of now, it wouldn't have gone so smoothly.

It's funny, though. I guess it was pretty obvious to my brother that I'm transgender.
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>>8338234

That looks pretty cute! :3
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>>8338239
Sounds good to me! We should play some more FF14 with Jazzy too, apparently we left off right before we got access to dungeons lol
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>>8338234
What other color tights do you have? Do you have nude pantyhose? how does it look with bare legs?
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>>8338223
No need to worry about that, she's your family and she is supportive, she won't hurt you.
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>>8338237
>>8338248
Thank you both :D Yeah I think I'll go with it :3 He said it was one of his favorite outfits that I showed him as well so it works out


>>8338251

I do have nude pantyhose but I tried wearing it out once without leggings and it kept riding up almost so much you could see my panties so I have always worn something underneath to extend it ever since. I do have a black skirt I could put under it to extend it but keep it looking like just a dress.
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>>8338244
I mean, promised myself I would transition instead of killing myself a year ago. Apparently not many people think this way?
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>>8338250
;_;7 o-okay senpai
i still need to do my thing it's just so hard to plan everything out!!!
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>>8338258
>she's your family and she is supportive, she won't hurt you
It wouldn't be the first time that someone "supportive" in my family decided to hurt me "for my own good". I know she wants to be a part of my life and wants to help, but I'm afraid I'd be making a mistake.
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>>8338260
Part of wearing a little black dress is pulling it down every so often. ;)
How about the black skirt over it? What style of skirt is it? I'm assuming tight due to being able to wear it under. Pleated would nicely go over it.
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>>8338262

Everyone is different. I came to the same conclusion, it just took me longer. It really depends on what level of emotional maturity you're at.
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>>8338272
It's a very tight skirt, goes just a little longer than the dress and hugs body almost the same
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>>8338272
So, it that really like, normally just part of wearing small cute dresses? I always get nervous.. Also I tried on the skirt underneath the dress and its actually almot the same length.. so it doesn't help.
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>>8338207
hope you have a good time at work beeper
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>>8338266
No problem, just lmk when you want to play! Also, all joking aside, how likely would it be for you to actually come visit?
>>8338268
I can see why you'd worry, but I think it's ultimately unfounded.
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>>8338293
>visit
i've got like no money
i'm saving up for moving out and i have no idea what i'm doing after that
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>watching legacy of the void opening cinematic again and again
>thinking about how it was pretty good but blizzard killed SC2 by the time it came out

I swear Blizzard should just stop making games and just make cinematics or movies, like Ubisoft
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>>8338296
Ok. If you're looking for a roomate, me getting a halfway decent long term job is looking more likely, so I'm also looking towards moving out.
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>>8338299
isn't brood war remastered coming soon
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>>8338304
well idk
i really need to get myself stable so i can make an income
at worst i might have to apply for disability
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>decide on pantyhose, rip the only nude pair of pantyhose you have

A-at least its at the back of the knee? Maybe I can salvage these..
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>>8338307
Yeah but like what's the point of playing it anymore

On HRT and at 25 my reflexes and motor skills are like 1/20th what they used to be when I was 17

idk just watching this cinematic makes me fuzzy inside very few people can consistently make such hype trailers
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>>8338309
I would definitely apply now if you haven't, imo you qualify, and they backpay you if they take forever to approve you (which they do, I've been trying since I was 14 and only now is it looking likely)
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>>8338317
idk if i can though? i mean my medical history basically started with my aspirin overdose in march
idk
i think i probably do qualify tho
>adhd / major depressive disorder / bipolar disorder
>completely dysfunctional
and i'm not certain but i think i might have some kind of social disability, though my therapist thinks that's because i never got to interact with kids my age IRL
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>>8338316
you can still play just for fun but i understand its frustrating if you can't get the level you want to be at
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>>8338311
buy more!
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>>8338320
I could.. don't have SC2 or the BW installed since I lost interest in the game

But anytime I need to get goosebumps or chills down my spine I watch the legacy of the void trailer
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Who was that teenage cis girl that used to troll /mtfg/
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>>8338321
If I have time.. I've got to do makeup rn and then got to be there in 2 hours so have to leave in a bit over 1 hour.
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>>8338327
chara was only pretending to be cis
they also had multiple identities that they used here / in discord
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>>8338325

Play SC2 with me Seiryu
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>>8338334
You'll probably stomp me since I haven't played properly in years

I just like the cinematics okay

dont hit me
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>>8338319
As long as you have diagnosis for those it should be enough. The overdose will likely add to the case as well. Idk how to start the process but I'd definitely do it, maybe try to find a representative, they don't charge you unless you win.
>>8338332
Really? I thought she pretended to be trans for a while until she got found out, then got bitched out of the thread because of it?
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>>8338337
i'll talk to my therapist about it the next time i see her
but yeah i'll look into it
how does it work if you move out after yo uget on disability?
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>>8338135
>tfw you were a broken depressed mess during high school and had largely terrible grades and now you're in grad school somehow
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i hate hearing about trannies who arenmt depressed, and worse, trannies who have never been depressed
i just don't get it
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>>8338342
Idk, but I think it just depends on how much money you make. I forget the number exactly but pretty much for me to unqualify myself I'd need to have a full time job and be making like $20+ an hour and, that's just a lowball off the top of my head.
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>>8338345
people just have different lives and different circumstances
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Reminder that Pandora's trip contains the string 'Agp'.
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>>8338343
Saw a hon on the tube
Everyone was looking
Cringe
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i want pizza and death
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>>8338347
i mean like, moving from state to state

>>8338349
an ex friend got this for me
she claimed it was the first one that popped up but idk ;_;7
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>>8338349
What's wrong with being an AGP fetishist? I'm an AGP fetishist.
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>>8338350
me irl
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>>8338159
It sure matters insofar as what you consider real is going to influence your behaviour, but whether something is ''real'' or not doesn't change any fact about it. ''Real'' is a tricky word. Anything that exists is real by definition, but ''real'' doesn't have any meaning without an ''unreal'' to compare it to, but as soon as you point to something and describe it as ''not real'' you've acknowledged the existence of /something/ there. When we say that something is unreal we generally mean that the essence of the thing is different from what it appears at, so an image of a dragon isn't a physical dragon, and there are no physical dragons as far as we know, so we say dragons aren't real, but the concept of a dragon surely exists, and people have been acting as if they were real, even using the concept usefully to describe things they experienced. If you study physics, you ultimately learn that nothing you experience is real, as everything is made from something else, raw materials then molecules then atoms then quantum entities that are in a superimposed state between existing and not existing, but none of these things aren't real, they're concepts used to make predictions about the observable world, and can't even exist in any way you can understand, so you go back to the only thing that's not reducible to anything else, which is qualie, direct sense-data: colors, tastes, shapes, but then these change entirely from one person to the next, so they can't be real either. Abstract concepts are the same. Ultimately everything turns out to be unreal, in which case the concept loses its meaning once again. The only thing you can say in the end is that existence as a whole is real, and no single thing you have a concept for is real in itself. Realizing this is the first step to understanding the true nature of the world, which lies beyond puny concepts like ''real'' and ''not real''. The concept of reality points to something it can't define.
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Does hair grow faster, change texture or none of the above on E?
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>>8338355
Oh, that I have no idea desu. I wanna say that I started the process in PA and moved here so I think it should work fine, but I'm seeing judges and shit from my state now so idk. I'll ask my mom about it later if I can remember.
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>>8338361
Texture changes.
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>>8337948
Not trans but headpats are godly
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>>8338361
Well it tastes like candy now ._.
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>can't sleep more than 4 hours a day
>no job
what am i supposed to do with all this time
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>>8338357
She looked about late 30s/early 40s
Broad shoulders
About 6'0"
Frilly skirt
Glad I started young.
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>>8338372
Music!
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>>8338361
mine had texture change and doesn't get oily as quickly
>>8338367
>Not trans
thats what you think
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>>8338350
My future desu
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>>8338366
Okay I'm regrowing my hair on E right now and I was sure the texture is a little softer but thought it was in my head.
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>>8338375
heck off
I am very much cis.
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>>8338380
Says the person on male to female general...
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>>8338360
>qualie
meant ''qualia''
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>>8338381
I saw something I liked, headpats, so I commented saying that I like headpats.
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>>8338372
What how'd you lose your job?
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>>8338378
I saw another hon on the tube last year. Fuck me I saw her adam's apple from the other end of the platform it was so big and she was so tall. I just don't get it, always the most masc af guys transitioning
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what's going on in the thread?
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>>8338385
>liking headpats
trutrans af
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>>8338390
Nyet.
Being loved tenderly doesnt mean trans.
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>>8338393
watcha doing here?
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>>8338393
well you're right about that.
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Is this the average /mtfg/ tranny?
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>>8338405
looks cis on the rightest picture.
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>>8338349
moar /mtfg/ easter eggs pls
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>>8338405
please don't post my timeline
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>>8338405
3rd pic is pretty cute desu
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wew we did it

>>8338386
fired
>>8335167
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>>8338405
i feel like the length of her face /skull is all thats keeping her from passing
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>>8338387
gender dysphoria doesn't discriminate towards the pretty, unfortunately
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>>8338420
If it did it would be hilarious though.
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>>8338417
tfw long face
>>8338434
uhh... not really
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there was one pp appointment slot left next week for hrt consultation and I let my friend who also wants to transition take it
the next slot isn't until july
I know I made the right choice but please console me
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>>8338439
Why wouldn't it be?
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>>8338440
I'm sorry Anon. Is there one like in another city you could get an appointment at and make a trip to?
>>8338441
why would it? if every single tranny was ugly we'd be an even bigger joke to society than we already are
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>>8338444
Oh.
I meant the other direction. Have gender dysphoria only affect pretty peoples.
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>>8338444
Probably, I'm trying to find one but I don't have a car
There's hopefully other healthcare centers nearby that offer
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It turns out it's life that makes me miserable and not this place
Maybe I should just leave life desu
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>>8338293
I feel like she wouldn't support me if she knew I was applying for food stamps because of depression.
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>>8338469
same
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>tfw daydreaming about my future NHS pussy
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>>8338405
lol she looks better than me, desu.
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>>8338440
you have a good heart
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>>8338472
I'm trapped in this place forever anyway
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>>8338469
ahhhh. don't. whatever you do don't. life changes everyday
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>>8338480
life is a prison
we are born into a bondage with no choice
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EX-TREME-LY FRIENDLY REMINDER
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>>8338480
Hi Ambiance.
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>>8337968
Near other who like me
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>>8338469
want to leave life together?
im ready to go too
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>>8338488
i went outside today and i had an exam

it was a very warm day for britain, annoying as shit.
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>>8338488
people will see me if I go outside though
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>>8338489
Hey
How's your day been?
>>8338484
But I have the option to leave
It's just that option is leaving everything forever
>>8338493
I'll give myself to the end of the year
Then I can be ready if things haven't improved
>>8338488
I get the /mtfg/ one for all three though
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>>8338499
Well no shit doc but isn't the whole purpose of being trans to showcase that you're stronger then the avarage bear?
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i know i complain a lot but i need to get stuff off my chest, feel free to ignore the blogpost

england was hot, weirdly hot based on the two times i had gone there, and my train had no air conditioner

i hadn't slept for 24 hours so i put out the eating tray and went to sleep

i woke up(though with my head still down) to two girls behind me taking about my hair

one said that even though it was sexist she thought long hair on men looked unattractive, they both began commenting on how gross i was and how greasy my hair looked from me sweating in my sleep

and she was right in that statement, i looked disgusting because i sweat like crazy over nothing even when im 7 months on HRT, even on anti-perspirants

i looked in the mirror several times today in different locations and saw the sad truth, i saw my brow cast a shadow over my eyes, i saw the way my sister and her family looked at me when they realized it was me

people see me and see someone who is not well, and i can't not care anymore or im gonna be an outcast forever

i most likely will cut my hair into a masculine, short hairstyle in the next few days, ill continue taking HRT even though it has made my mental state 10 times worse because i could never forgive myself if i stopped then started 3 years later even more masculine than before

this whole trans thing has been a pipe dream, and being with my wonderful sister and noticing her sense of humor and how it's similar to mine has reaffirmed my want to be normal

i don't want to be seen as a freak, i don't want to a recluse anymore, i just want to be an average joe with a happy relationship and none of the baggage of mental illness

my sister set up a game night with a bunch of kids around my age she works with in order to set me up with a girl i think, it hurts knowing that i won't allow myself to have a good time

even when i feel well i feel like im waiting for the inevitable to happen, or maybe im just waiting for anything to happen
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i hate the person ive become

im so happy for you that can actually pass as women and live a semi-regular life

im gonna try to stay off here for the rest of my trip, this place just brings bad thoughts
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>>8338505
no it's to be a woman
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>>8338498
Wear a sundress or bikini?

Not during the exam obviously.
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>>8338493
>tfw can't sudoku because mum is sure to plaster my face all over the news attacking the NHS for "failing her daughter"
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>>8338471
Does she need to know that? And if I loved someone then knowing that would just make me more likely to help them, but I know she's from a generation when that sort of thing is frowned upon so idk.
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>>8338484
what's going on? what's got you down?
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>>8338506
>i most likely will cut my hair into a masculine, short hairstyle in the next few days
You will spend up to two years regretting this stupid decision. I did the exact same thing and I'm still beating myself up voer it.

Absolutely do not fucking do this.
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ここで僕を殺して
死にたい
REEEEEE
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>>8338506
>and she was right in that statement, i looked disgusting because i sweat like crazy over nothing even when im 7 months on HRT, even on anti-perspirants
this stuff changed my life. i suggest getting some and just rubbing it on your scalp anytime it gets greasy but you cant have a shower.

Im sorry you are feeling like shit and dysphoric but please do not cut your hair. Just take a few deep breathes and try to relax. You will 100% regret cutting your hair for a long time if you do.
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>>8338517
my hair looks like a frizzy mess, it looks awful
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>>8338513
Waiting for Kara to get home and just melancholic about future.
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>>8338521
Try a different hair care routine, don't just cut it all off, there's a lot you can do to fix things other than going with the nuclear route.
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>>8338520
yeah what do i do about having my back covered in sweat from just sitting in a car?
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>>8338521
Do you shampoo and condition every day? do you comb it?
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>>8338523
ive tried several different things, it just isn't styled or straightened so it looks disgusting
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>>8338506
>thought men with long hair looked unattractive
Well you're not a man anymore! Please don't do something you'll regret, you just need to keep working a little longer to get to the point where people stop seeing you as different.
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>>8338498
>>8338498
Sucks to be you, I rode my bike around Highgate then went to meet some peeps in Soho. Feels good being NEET.
>>8338501
Up and down, bike ride was fun, met this nice FtM guy but was generally miserable about having to boymode in 25 degree heat. Wait a sec you're not seriously considering killing yourself are you? I didn't know you were suicidal ;_;
>>8338508
You were a lot more chill and positive pre-HRT
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>>8338521
Then you need to style it better. Maybe you need a haircut that gives it a nicer shape, maybe you need to use hair products for frizz (I believe you already do). You can fix frizzy hair through certain methods. Cutting long hair takes literally years to fix. Don't be a fucking moron like I was in November last year, please.
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>>8338525
no, yes after the shower usually
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>>8338524
Maybe your estrogen dosage is too high or maybe thats from cypro. Try taking bica and slightly less E and see if that helps.
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>>8338526
Yeah that's my hair too, I have to straighten it every day if I want it to look good.
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>>8338512
I'm not sure. She's very different from most people her age - my cousin told my grandma I was trans right around when I decided to transition, and my grandma waited an entire year for me to tell her myself, even coaxing me to be more open with her during the summer.

I'm just scared. I know she wants to help, but I'm scared that she'll turn on me like everyone else did.
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>>8338531
>no
If you feel like your hair is greasy i would suggest shampooing and making sure you rub down that scalp with it every day if possible. I know mine got super fucking greasy if i didnt do that when i first started hormones
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>>8338532
i was like that pre-hrt too, im just fucking gross

guy sitting next to me got up and went to a different cabin
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>>8338524
Just for the record, today was a disgustingly hot day for britain, 25C felt like 30+C because of how humid this country is. I was sweating tons today and I've been living here for months.
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>>8338508
emi! rest up for a few days, enjoy the sun.

you're beating yourself up because you're tired and some mean girls were bitches to you.

this is a crisis i swear it will pass. wait until you get back to take a decision on your hair.

i cut my hair off in september and that just triggered a stupid repression crisis that Valq helped me overcome until January.

we're different individuals with different life experience but we go through similar things.

I<3 u. take care
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I wish I had a mommy
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>>8338528
because im a transtrender and hrt is causing me to go insane
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>>8338539
>o, im just fucking gross
No, you arent. You just need to live somewhere cold like canada.
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>>8338535
i cant straighten my hair because having feminine hair would look even more ridiculous than how it is currently
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Japanese metal songs about sexual abuse r best
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>>8338536

Then don't worry about it! You're just letting your fear get the best of you, there should be no reason to expect anything like that will happen.
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>>8338546
If you really believe this then stop taking hormones for 2 weeks and see how you feel.
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>>8338522
future is a fucking melancholy trip. I'm sorry about this. this happens to me often.
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>>8338541
obviously i was sweating enough for those two girls to whisper about how gross i am while they thought i was sleeping
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honestly what kind of cunt even comments on strangers they see on a train like that

i've seen so many fucking different people in trains from like cybergoths to the unpassingest hons and I never even thought to stare at them or make shitty unflattering comments? why do people even care about strangers?
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>>8338506
damm that's honestly a really shitty experience, those girls were cunts, I can't even imagine that happening. I'm really sorry but I think in a few days you'll feel better about yourself, no one looks good after a 24 hour journey in a hot train.

Listen you're getting a big hug from me when you're here ok?
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>>8338549
Have you tried it?
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>>8338557
Are you wearing baggy clothes or something?
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I hope it's going to get better for you lots.
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>>8338547
id still sweat, im disgusting

>>8338563
i only own baggy clothes
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>>8338528
That sounds nice aside from the boy mode
I've been suicidal for a while, probably won't go through with it
I'm just in an awful mood most of the time and fantasize about kms at night
I need some kind of escape aside from alcohol
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Any of you weebs going to collasalcon? I might end up going with some people..
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>>8338565
>i only own baggy clothes
Emily go get some appropriate clothes for the weather you are in jesus. You will feel much better in a t shirt and shorts
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>>8338506
Are you still in London?
Were those two girls black? I bet they were black.
IKTF about not wanting to be a freak, but you can't run away from this. Go get married, you will still crack and go back on hormones one day. Instead of detransitioning why not put in some effort? You don't seem like the sort of person who takes care of themself so I'm not surprised. You can't even be bothered to eat. How do you expect to look good if your malnutritioned. You're basically the posterchild of /mtfg/; socially awkward shut in who thinks all their problems will disappear just by taking the pills. I was in the same spot until recently so this is advice not me just shitting on you. Fix your hair, eat better, learn makeup, get a nice wardrobe.
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Girls what are some foundation and brush products, I just want a few items I can scoop off amazon to make my skin look more even and soft. I need something for pale skin. PLS don't tell me to read that mess of a makeup sticky.
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Someone come and kick my face in?
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>>8338555
I'll figure and work something out eventually. Thanks for the sentiment.
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>>8338517
Oh that's why you have short hair.
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>>8338574
You're being too harsh.

Nim lives in an abusive family environment. She has plans to move out. She cannot do much in her current state. I've been there. It's awful, it totally fucks you up.

What she absolutely cannot do is give up before she even has the chance to be free.
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>>8338566
Everything will be okay <3
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>>8338582
I cut my hair about 1-2 weeks before I cracked and fully admitted to myself I needed to transition. I think cutting my hair short actually just pushed me past the threshold of dysphoria necessary for me to accept I wasn't going to ever be okay being a guy.

I've been growing it out since then.
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opinions?
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You know, I think I look better with my hair up. It's kind of that band between long hair and short hair where I really feel I look more feminine.
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>>8338574
no they were white
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>>8338565
come to canada emi its actually snowing right now lmao
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>>8338573
i only brought tshirts and jeans
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>>8338597
not in alberta T_T
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>>8338599
look out your window. unless you're in high river rn then idk
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>>8338598
go to the store and get some shorts and a non baggy t shirt when you go see sertii
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>>8338559
i can't even seem to loosen up around my own family, but yet im still able to have a heart-to-heart with my sister like we always do when i come visit

i sincerely hope i feel a bit better because i don't want to be bad when i go to amsterdam

>>8338562
no i have not
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>>8338595
Hmm must have been chavs.
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>>8338587
Thank you <3
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>>8338602
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>>8338604
i don't show my legs ever
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>>8338583
Fair enough, I didn't know that
>>8338589
Cutting my hair always made me really fucking miserable
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>>8338591
You need a real job.
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>>8338616
i know this feel

my mother couldnt understand why i was so averse to shorts even during horrible heatwaves back home

to be fair i didnt understand it back then, either
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>>8338611
i can't tell the difference between the char accent and the other accents but they were dressed reasonably nice

there were a bunch of teenage girls who got on who all had a lot of skin showing tho, maybe those are chava, i don't really know
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>>8338621
i couldn't shave my legs because my mother would get angry at me when i did so i just always wore jeans and ive continued doing so until today
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>>8338616
I can understand how you wouldnt want to and it probably makes you feel dysphoric but its either that or sweat to death.
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alright im going to sleep, ive only sleep like an hour since i landed

if you wanna talk ill be able to check my discord when im at home at my sisters house

have a good night, sorry again about he blogpost
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>>8338629
take care, nim

i know im just some weirdo in 4chan but i kinda care about you

and sleep well
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How much is hrt and how do I go about getting it?
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>>8338614
._. sorry we got a little bit here
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>>8338634
sheeeeeet. You are in the NW right?
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>>8338640
yea
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>>8338633
You can go to a doctor to get it, price will depend on if/how much your insurance covers. If you buy them online (links in the OP), it will likely cost around $60 per month
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>>8338644
if this is who i think it is we should meet up sometime when we get over our anxiety and go shopping xD
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>>8338440
Wow nice thats very sweet of you.

>>8338506
Just keep taking the hrt and boymode, you will regret stopping.

>>8338633
Depends on where you live.
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>>8338671
yeah we should
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I guess nobody cares, but the ferrin in the stool sample, thee doc says it's a polyp and because family history it will be removed and sent to a lab analysis to check for cancer and the procedure will be done next week.

so fuck it. life is short as it is. i'm still sad though, and I miss my ex so much. we're all alone in the end i guess.

should I do DMT?
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>>8338695
hows dmt gonna help
>>8338696
you forgot the spaghetti
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>>8338696
That looks so good :0 But wheres the spaghetti
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>>8338696
Now I want pizza.
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>>8338506
Iktf nimmy
The whole trans thing does indeed seem like a pipe dream

>tfw considering stopping around the same time as nim
i feel
based...
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>tfw remembering the time your ex gf lost to cock
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>>8338695
It's probably not cancer, chill out.
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>>8338699
>>8338700
I make normal pizza too you know ;~;
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Does Homura need to go Y/N
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>When your dysphoria and your male protector instinct conflict and you want to be a girl but also protect them and sacrifice yourself so they can live because you don't deserve one
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>>8338717
NO
>>8338715
when you run out of spaghetti?
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>>8338717
only if you want to
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>>8338723
I change it up every week
Next week I'm gonna have chicken nuggies, blue cheese and buffalo sauce
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>>8338696
where's the spaghet
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>>8338719
iktf
i feel like i want to protect a girl but at the same time i don't want to be the strong figure in a relationship
i feel like women are so special
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>>8338732
and spaghetti. then its like a chicken parm
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>>8338732
Everything about that sounds good expect the blue cheese. i cant believe people actually like that stuff.
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Do you pass on omegle?
I do.
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>>8338741
>not liking blue cheese
wut is rong with u tho D:
>>8338733
up ur butt
>>8338738
wtf no
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Okay maybe not, I showed him my boobs and he clocked me.
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>>8338746
>wut is rong with u tho
everything :(
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>>8338736
I want to die being a man protecting a women
I have an intense hatred of predatory males and feel I should use my biological maleness to serve as a weapon against them
I get this sick feeling in my gut thinking about rape and the Muslims kidnapping girls after the Manchester attack

And I set aside my own dysphoria because the real women should be protected.
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How fast does a bus need to be moving for an invariably fatal pedestrian collision?
Asking for a friend >.>
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>>8338766
:3c
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thoughts?
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>>8338723
>>8338725

I'm sorry, I know that that is annoying, but I've spent most of my life on the outside looking in, feeling unwanted, and I was okay with that.

But along with happiness and confidence, taking hormones seems to have brought a desire to be liked, even loved. I find myself wishing for a date, of all things.
>>
Anybody looking for an orbiter?
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>tfw lost to greek salad
stupid tasty mix of fucking bullshit
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>>8338699
like fuck it why not do it? why have I taken care of my body and steered clear of drugs and stuff? what's the fucking point of dreams and plans?
>>8338714
even it wasn't what's the difference? I'm still living a fucking cursed existence.
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>>8338753
>>8338742
I can't believe you really pass at all frankly. You look like a dude in a wig.
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>>8338772
yes but im not cute enough for one
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>>8338776
>yes but im not cute enough for one
You might be. Tell me about yourself. I just left Emma's orbit and am looking for refuge.
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>>8338764
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>>8338757
rip ;~~;

>>8338766
please no ;~;
>>8338772
Hi hello
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>>8338766
Buses don't go fast enough usually you need a car going at least 60MPH
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Helpllll meee
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>>8338764
i hate (predatory) men and think we should use feminism to destroy them
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>>8338777
>Tell me about yourself
emotional burden
not cute
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>Supposed to get up to 100 degrees this weekend
Damn you Texas summers!
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>>8338779
It's not even a sex thing.
I'm terrified of women to the point of asexuality
All I want is to die being a protector of some kind, being of some use, a human shield, a rescuer. I want to die so much. But as a self sacrifice.

I'd do it for any transgirl too
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>>8338764
u should go supreme gentleman rodge mode and kill a bunch of people sounds like a reallly good idea
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>>8338781
>Hi hello
I complimented your pizza just now.

>00:14 - Anonymous: https://i.4cdn.org/lgbt/1495666740284.jpg
>00:14 - Anonymous: elanna can cook.
>00:15 - Anonymous: Maybe I should orbit her instead.

>>8338786
What do you like, anonette?
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I have a picture of shakira that she sent me in a PM.
Should I post it? Yes or no?
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>>8338790
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>>8338772
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0lsqjvNXtko

>>8338781
>rip ;~~;
xD
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>>8338764
Rock on, learn martial arts, become a motherfucker, go kick ass.

>>8338732
that sounds good, who cares what pizza autists think are the proper toppings for pizza? you're enjoying life, keep at it.
>>8338717
stay, go.... what do you want?
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>>8338793
Wait where is this chat log from wat
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>>8338802
It's from my conversation with my orbitee.

>>8338797
You were mean to me before. What are the advantages of orbiting you?
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>>8338796
Please let me die
I need to be useful
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>>8338772
>Anybody looking for an orbiter?
Faye, desu
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>>8338806
>What are the advantages of orbiting you?
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1ytE13o2alt
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>>8338806
I feel like a homewrecker
Come over here though and have some pizza and definitely not lewd stuff
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>>8338799
>that sounds good
no. spaghetti must always go on pizza
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>>8338813
That sounds like a pretty terrible deal compared to what I currently have. Your application has been submitted and I'll get back to you reasonably soon depending on the options made available to me.

>>8338817
Can we cuddle? Would it be okay if I tongued your asshole a little bit? Not in a lewd way or anything, just a friendly way.
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>>8338817
I'm calling Fortis right now to disconnect your gas.
Good luck cooking pizza now, dipshit
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>>8337948
Wasn't sure what board to ask this on,but /fit/ didn't seem right.
I've been going to the gym for the last 4 years, and even had a few personal trainer sessions to switch up my routine, and kept up a good diet but I've come to the conclusion I'm not gonna make it. Last few blood tests I've had have shown I'm low test but not so low I can ask for supplements, and I've never in my life been above 70kg (155ib), usually hanging around 65kg.

I've had a few people say I could trap pretty convincingly if I put the effort into it, but I'm still on the fence about it, since I'm kinda worried I might just decide to fully transition, which I've been thinking about on and off for a few years. I wanted to know if pueraria mirifica works on guys, since it'll pull attention away from my shoulders which give away my gender pretty badly. I've seen a few reports that say short-term it does nothing, but over 3 months you can grow by about an inch or so. If there's any other market-available feminizing products that do work, that'd be cool too, since I guess if I'm gonna be vaguely androgynous my whole life, I might as well push myself across the border.

Also, is being 6ft too tall to appear feminine?
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>>8338799

I want to to be wanted. I want to be known.
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>>8338824
>Also, is being 6ft too tall to appear feminine?
This chick's like 6 ft (NSFW) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAAA0tQWAAEwYzt.jpg:large
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>>8338822
>Would it be okay if I tongued your asshole a little bit
Holy shit lewd
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>>8338822
Christ it's been way too long since someone stuck their tongue in my butt

>>8338823
I use electric
Your move buckarooo
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>>8338783
What's wrong?
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>>8338836
I'm calling Hydro right now to disconnect your electricity.
Good luck making shit pizza now, dipshit
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>>8338830
Sweet, my jawlines not as firm as hers either.
Do you have any experience with *natural* hormone stuff? I don't wanna exactly start transitioning with hardcore hormones if I'm gonna end up physically deformed, cos right now I'm at least a little attractive, and I've heard some horror stories. If I like trapping, I might end up going further, idk.
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>>8338838
Confusing repressive thoughts, trans guilt, repeating cycle of "maybe I'm just shitty at being a boy and need to try harder!" Meme getting into my head
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>>8338818
yeah, do it. you enjoy it?

>>8338826
then stay
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>>8338845
Herbal hormones don't work.
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>>8338843
But the pizza is already out of the oven and I have a phone to call dominos
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>>8338833
>Holy shit lewd
>>8338836
>Christ it's been way too long since someone stuck their tongue in my butt
I don't know if I'd actually put my tongue in, but I'd like to run my tongue along it as I grope and gently slap your butt and just generally worship your ass. You can do whatever as I do it. I'd be okay if you just played vidya or whatever as I worshipped your ass. But it's nothing lewd. You said no lewd, so I'm not trying to be lewd. It's like a shoulder massage, it doesn't have to be lewd.
>>
No one cared about the photograph of shakira I posted?
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>>8338853
Calling Telus right now to disconnect your phone
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>>8338857
>You said no lewd
When the fuck did I say that?
Now ride me like a harley already
>>8338862
I BET U CANT GUESS MY PROVIDER :D
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>>8338857
Geez this is like the definition of thirsty chaser. What if her but tastes like blue cheese
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>>8338823
>>8338843
you need to start hrt asap. ur anger is getting out of control
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>>8338852
Shit, really? I'm kind of hoping for a long-term study, since all the studies I could find were over a month at most.

I'm genuinely more curious about it now than ever. I heard it takes at least 3-6 months to take effect anyway, so maybe I should get another blood test to record my current levels, then go on a 3 month trial, and post findings for future people interested.
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i've considered eating butt because i figure my huge tongue would be rly good at it
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>>8338847
You're shitty at being a boy because you're a girl. Being trans isn't anything to be ashamed of, Amy.
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>>8338868
A N G E R Y
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>>8338865
>Now ride me like a harley already
Yes, please! Are you still into open relationships, desu?

>>8338867
Then I'd apologise and stop. But if she's just bathed it shouldn't really taste like anything. What does your butt taste like, princess?
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>>8338865
Calling Telus/Rogers/Virgin/Bell/Sprint/Freedom right now
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>>8338873
I know. It's just the meme is really powerful and societal pressure gets to me a lot and hang ups about being "normal"
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>>8338870
You sound really really trans, literally everyone here did the "I just want to be a femboy, I'll just take herbal pills, I'm not a tranny freak" routine before coming out, I did it. Just start HRT and do a proper transition
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>>8338876
I have never been into open relationships

I don't think you know me

It's over between us

You blew it

>>8338880
Who is Telus/Rogers/Virgin/Bell/Sprint/Freedom?
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>>8338876
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0xR585p0wHv
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>>8338883
You'll end up a mostly normal girl, okay?
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>>8338887
ew
>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blanchard%27s_transsexualism_typology
>Under the theory, homosexual transsexuals are predicted to begin transitioning earlier in life,[2] generally before turning 30, which accounts for their supposedly better adjustment.

>wikipedia misgendering trannies
JESUS CHRIST
>>
>>8338892
>not getting an obvious joke
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>>8338847
If you're thinking you're shitty at being a boy, then what's the point in trying harder?
Unless you believe in some kind of magical soul or 'gender defined at birth', you're objectively making a smarter decision to play to your strengths, and if those are feminine, then become a girl (or girl(male) if you wanna keep your bepis).
>>
>>8338886
elanna you said you want a guy and then a girl as your side bitch isn't that pretty much an open relationship
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>>8338886
Really? I'm pretty sure you said you'd enjoy being able to have a cute girlfriend on the side. I'd stay faithful to you, though! That's a shame.

>>8338887
It turns me on that you tasted your ass for me. I was just curious. Don't you ever wonder what somebody tastes like?
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>>8338896
sorry. the sweet and salty part was too gross for me
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>>8338899
>It turns me on that you tasted your ass for me
OMG IT WAS A JOKE I WOULD NEVER DO THAT.
>Don't you ever wonder what somebody tastes like?
My gf's butt is what tastes like that desu i was just basing mine off hers.
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>>8338898
>>8338899
I think the term you're looking for is 'beard'
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>>8338916
why would you need a beard people already know you're a dyke
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>>8338911
I am pretty sure that anon is parodying the skype conversation with your boy friend that you posted
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>>8338911
>OMG IT WAS A JOKE I WOULD NEVER DO THAT.
It's okay. We heard the recording. You don't have to be embarrassed. For what it's worth, lewdness aside, it's nice that you taste yourself to make sure you're clean for your girlfriend. That's what relationships are all about. She's a lucky girl, and I'm proud of you and your delicious hole. xoxo

>>8338916
So? Fancy it?
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>>8338926
hey hes not my boyfriend hes just a chaser who happens to be a friend.
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>>8338888
Ok ;-;

>>8338897
It's more if I could make the mental match the physical instead of make the physical match the mental

But I tried that before and it hurt me. I think it will pass soon
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>>8338884
Unfortunately I'm also a realist, paranoid, and hate idpol bullshit. I don't feel like I was "born a girl", or particularly dislike my body or penis.
I just don't feel like I'm going to do well as an overtly masculine guy, and wouldn't mind passing as a girl for cosplay and shit. Having femtitties would kind of be fun to play with as well.
Not sure if there's some not-allowed topics to discuss on this board, but basically weighing up the pros and cons, I'd rather be andro than completely transition because of the drawbacks associated with the latter. Plus, family doctor would most likely at least let it slip to my parents I'm on hormones or whatever and I don't wanna have the 'traps aren't gay' conversation when I'm already pretty much resolved I'm open to anyone cute enough.
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>>8338931
of course he isnt your boyfriend
he is your boy, friend
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>>8338916
Beard's are meant to fool others into thinking you're straight, not yourself.
>>8338932
Good girl.
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>>8338932
pat Amy until she feel better
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>>8338921
No they don't I'm still not exactly out to anyone as a lesbian
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>>8338944
didn't you tell coworkers you had a gf?
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>>8338940
Im glad you understand.

>>8338928
>when ppl take your lewd trolling seriously
riperino
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>>8338937
only the farthest left trantrans have the gall to say transwomen are born female
the fact of the matter is we're not, we're just taking our bodies and syncing them with our mental self-view

if you're not dysphoric do not take HRT
HRT will make you dysphoric
i was semi-dysphoric before i started transitioning but it only became horrible after i started
>>
>>8338943
I feel shaken by the whole Manchester attack
I cried watching the news today and had to leave the room but my mum saw :(

I just feel so ashamed I've become so emotional and vulnerable in such a scary dangerous world and I wish more than anything to go and hide in my Spartan armour and hide in my room and let testosterone numb to the point of complete apathy again
>>
>>8338950
>riperino
It's okay. You don't need to be embarrassed about being lewd. Plenty of girls ITT have reputations as sluts and they still get plenty of respect!
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>>8338950
>Im glad you understand.
so when are you going to go out with your boy friend
maybe wear a nice dress and do some dancing and have a nice meal, see a movie?
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>>8338937
All your reasons are "others won't accept me" therefore it's clearly what YOU want. I don't hate my penis either, still getting SRS because I'd rather a pussy. You don't have to feel like you were born a girl and cry at the sight of your penis, if you simply like the idea of looking like a girl beyond mere drag you are trans.
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>>8338949
Yeah that doesn't mean they think I'm gay I can still salvage by getting a bf
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>>8338957
Allah is coming for you!
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>>8338957
girls cry about sad things, dont feel ashamed okay
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>>8338958
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1JRbyym9Onp
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>tfw you know you would've been happier if you'd kept repressing but you hate the idea of being male
idk maybe i was destined to fail
all it took was a few pushy trantrans to fuck with my dysphoria
>>
>>8338954
>>8338960
Okay, then in that case I'm not since I'm pretty much fine with how I look now, but I'd like some A-cups to assist with crossplay.

In that line of thought, I might try a PM 3 month trial, do a record and report back on the effects to confirm for my own satisfaction at least. Unless anyone else has a 3-6 month trial on guys they can share.
>>
>>8338962
why do you care so much
>>8338967
youve been getting counter trolled
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>>8338967
>J-Jokes on you! I was only pretending to be lewd!
If that's your point, how do you explain the first ten seconds of this recording? I really do mean it when I say that it's okay. It's okay to be known as a slut. A lot of people like sluts. I like sluts. And you giving me all this fap material is greatly appreciated.

You don't need to be ashamed. Being lewd is perfectly okay.
>>
>age 20
>go on /pol/
>it's edgy and hilarious
>age 25
>go on /pol/
>brain hurts after 5 minutes
>close tab
Is this what growing up feels like?
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>>8338962
I wish you avatarfag'd as kurisu more
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No one let Amy repress again!
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>>8338978
>If that's your point, how do you explain the first ten seconds of this recording?
Even more joking? idk dude you're pretty autismo if you cant tell when someones fake moaning.
>>
>>8338981
/pol/ got shittier, but yeah, probably.
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>>8338967
dare you to send the first part to your boy friend
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>look at myself in bathroom mirror
>gross man
>car mirrors
>girl
oooookay
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>>8338987
>Even more joking? idk dude you're pretty autismo if you cant tell when someones fake moaning.
Well, obviously you're not about to start 'real' moaning while making a lewd recording on a whim to get me off, are you? But you're putting in the effort. Real or fake, that's what counts.
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>>8338974
hrt will change how you think
even if i wanted to (i don't) there's no way i could stop now

>>8338981
/pol/posting is a form of arrested development
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>>8338991
Lighting.
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>>8338976
I don't actually I'm mostly memes
>>8338982
I wish I could avatarfag as her irl tbqh
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>>8338993
no bully
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>>8338993
who cares dude
~t. me
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>>8338981
Pretty much. Also pol grew out of being ironic shitposting into something lonely neckbeards cling to as a community, just like mlp.
>>
>>8338997
all you need is leather short shorts
>>
>>8338991
You're one of the cutest girls who regularly posts ITT. Definitely in my top 3. Don't be so hard on yourself.
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>>8339002
and red hair
and to be cute and younger

I will never be the kurisu i was always meant to be rip
>>
is it bad if the idea of romantic abuse is one of the only things that can actually make me feel in the mood
i get that fluttery feeling in my chest when i think about it
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>>8338992
>to get me off
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0Ce2VwYnZn9
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>>8338974
Well here's the thing; you are fine with how you look now, well so was I! I was actually okay with being a young skinny smooth-faced boy. As you get older you'll masculinize further and as you clearly value your feminine attributes this will cause you distress. And saying you want breasts is an obvious sign your trans. At least take (real) HRT for 6 months. If you like it, keep taking it, if not, the effects are still reversible and you won't have changed enough for anyone to notice.
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>>8339007
She has brown hair you dum
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>>8338996
I guess so! Also distance. And probably facial expressions. And stuff.
>>8339006
Awww, thanks anon. I'll keep working so I can make it to #1~
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>>8338991
>>8339014
You're super cute. <3
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>>8339012
I believe the word you're looking for is 'auburn'
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>>8339009
I find that imitating your conversation style is all that's needed to convince people I'm braindead, desu.

Jokes aside, I had fun though!
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>>8339007
>red hair
>Her hair, which she prefers to let loose, ranges in ginger shades all the way from mahogany to auburn. The part of her name "Kuri" means chestnut, and so her hair color is most likely to resemble the color of a chestnut.
get it done
>cute
you are
> younger
she was born in 1992
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>>8339018
/1992 masterrace/
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>>8339020
Thats not how you spell 1991
>>8339017
>I had fun though!
we should fake lewd talk more often then its good practice for me to be able to hold my voice through a laugh
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>>8339022
>we should fake lewd talk more often then its good practice for me to be able to hold my voice through a laugh
I'll make you fake cum any time, babe.
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>>8338993

Oh no, I broke a rule on 4chan. Whatever will I do? Surely, I, one of the very few avatar posters, am now in deep trouble.
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>>8339018
Too bad Elanna no longer has her chestnuts.
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>>8339018
hue

wizards of 4chan

how do i protect my web identity and such

like i think my gmail email and hotmail email and like face book

basically everything is fucked

how do i start over?

how do i delete it all and start over?

plz halp
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>>8339018
Are you saying all I need is to git my hair done and get the hot pants and tie and I'm there?

Fuck, I already want a tie anyways

This is sounding like a better idea by the minute
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>>8339024
>I'll make you fake cum any time,
Im glad you're realistic in knowing you could never make me cum for real ;)
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>>8338962
Too late
Telling everyone you're a prancing faggot right now
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>>8339031
when roleplaying goes too far
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>>8339031

Elanna you'll look super hot no matter what you do
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>>8339031
do it!
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>>8338993
baka desu senpai
>>8338981
Same
I guess it's growing up
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>>8339035
>Im glad you're realistic in knowing you could never make me cum for real ;)
No bully!
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>>8338994
Does it like, affect the face noticeably? I dunno if I could live with that.
>>8338974
Nah, I've gotta go into a fairly conservative workplace, and regardless of how 'accepting' they are now, I can't pretend it'll do me any favors. Maybe if the PM doesn't pan out and I'm still feeling dysphoric, because desu I could just get breast forms but those don't help me fap.

I'm just looking to see if there's a genuine study of PM or something like it, because if not I might as well do it just for future fags like myself who wanna get off to traptitties, or who are too cheap or insecure to go full fem.
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>>8339031
Congratulations, you'll finally do what everyone here dreams of, becoming an anime.
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>>8339031
You would actually look really cute with red hair.
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I'm getting a plan for my name change ready! Tomorrow I'm gonna make some calls and budget out how I'm gonna save for it.
I wanna be able to have my name changed in time for college, I REALLY don't wanna go in with my name being my boy name
Though maybe if I speak to my professors about it before class they'll use Grace instead so my classmates dont have to know I'm a trantran
And if they refuse I drop the class
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>no bf
you know the rest
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>>8339050
>And if they refuse I drop the class
>implying they'd ever refuse now that every university in America will bend over backwards to accommodate you
You've got nothing to worry about, sweetness. It'll be okay!
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>>8339047
Fug, meant to reply to >>8339010

Also, is it usually so ERP here? I mean yeah, it's 4chan and shit, but you guys have a discord, and can probably do meetups or whatever.
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>>8339050
i think people might know name change or not honey....
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>>8339022
The Soviet Union existed when you were born, you were basically born in ancient times.
>>8339047
I've been on HRT a year, never been gendered female in public. it wont be apparent so long has you keep your hair short.
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>>8339036
Lesbians don't prance, those are the other ones
And I don't usually prance!
>>8339048
omg the dream is real!
>>8339049
I have considered it before!
I used to have black hair though it kind of put me off having dyed hair but who knows
>>8339038
t-thanks
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>>8339030
wizards plz
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holy fucking shit ive been posting my artwork and short stories for months on tumblr and i post one picture of myself with the tag #hrt and #trans and get more likes, views and followers than ive ever had in my life.

all people care about is looks and appearance, fml im such an idiot and a hack ;_;
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I don't even know why I bother with applying to jobs any more, I'm unemployable as anything but a killer.

Apply for retail, in too qualified, CEO says he's giving me a job, takes it back, CMO of another company says they're making a job for me, no call, told constantly I'm a finalist and they'll call me for the final interview, sitting in an abyss of no responses.
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>>8339058
>meeting 4channers IRL
No thanks
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>>8339057
I hope so, this is all really scary, if I have to be known as my boyname at college I might wait until the spring semester to go.
>>8339059
Oh honey
>>8339065
I mean, sjws, fellow trantrans, and chasers are gonna be interested in you simply cause youre trans
there's a ton of art out there so its hard to get people interested and become discovered
hopefully the new people will like your art!!
>>8339068
its fun!
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>>8339050
Go with the completely androgynous name Chunk instead.
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>>8339061
>tfw all it took for her to stop ignoring you was to change your trip

>>8339046
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1RnbAi7IIdv
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>>8338997
u are the meme queen desu
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>>8339075
People wouldn't take me seriously then, Special K!
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>>8339065
tl:dr

the world are stupid and fucked up place

fuck the white man

>>8339067
escort Faye wen

.

i think they're watching me
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>>8339050
Good girl, being all responsible. <3
>>8339068
>tfw gonna meet my 4channer gf IRL
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>>8338964
Spartan never left the house except to gym tho
I wanna feel safe again...

>>8338965
But it's such an overload and I wanna be numb and not feel so scared and weak and upset
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>>8339076
Is that supposed to sound like a girl
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>>8339081
I'm too old to be an escort
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>>8339084
find a bf

:/

then take good care of him

then

idk

:/

bad feels
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>>8339061
So you're basically saying if I'm andro enough already I might as well just get a wig.

Not really seeing why I can't try PM, and just get my eyebrows threaded and use makeup desu. How's HRT meant to work anyway, you gotta get a doctor to confirm you're healthy and want to do it, get test blockers, and then take supplements right?
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>>8339063
>I have considered it before!
DO IT. Also um.. d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-did you listen to my mix yet?
>>8339085
not on this shitty mic
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>>8339076
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s1RnbAi7IIdv
You wish, desu.
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>>8339068
I've met two 4channers irl
One was a crazy girl
The other was a nice girl who I'm still semi friends with
>tfw never got to meet pleb when she moved to my old town
;_;
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>>8339075
chunk is my favourite meme on here desu.
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>>8339088
cam then
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>>8338986
Emotions are scary for me
I'm used to being numb and being able to bury things
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>>8339088
pffffffffffffft

did you even try boo

did you even try
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>>8339080
But it'll be easier to cheer you on at the college parties when you do a keg stand! Think of the legends they'll tell of Chunk.
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>>8339083
meeting up for an LDR is a trap tho
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>>8339099
How so?
>>
1996 is best birth year desu
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>>8339091
No not yet ;~;
I've tossed it on my phone for when I drive to work tomorrow though I've been hermitting over the weekend
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>>8339074
Imagine if I had met Oryx....
>>8339076
Fun fact: I had never filtered you I just said I did. This is what I usually do unless someone is being a real pain because setting up trip filters seems like a passive aggressive waste-of-time when I could just not read their posts. Also my mum uses my computer sometimes so I have to delete browser history and hence filters.
>>8339081
Why is your gf jealous of me?
>>8339090
>PM
It's snake oil
>How's HRT work
You can just self medicate, it isn't hard or dangerous.
>>8339093
What did she do that was crazy?
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>>8339089

I don't know how to find a nice bf
I end up with guys who make me wanna repress for them and get sad
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>>8339099
LDRs are a trap
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>>8339030
just make new email accounts :S
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>>8339099
I met up with my gf last year and desu the month we spent together was the most amazing and meaningful 30 days of my life.

>>8339104
Its ok i just respect your opinion so i wanted some criticism.

>>8339105
>Fun fact: I had never filtered you I just said I did.
Guess i was bamboozled
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>>8339084
>But it's such an overload and I wanna be numb and not feel so scared and weak and upset
>>8339096
>Emotions are scary for me
>I'm used to being numb and being able to bury things
you will get used to it, its better to cry and get it out than keeping it inside and letting it fester
>>
>>8339047
it'll make your face more feminine

>>8339065
i'd do this but i don't have any motivation to draw and the smut crowd aren't exactly people you'd want to know you're trans
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>>8339105
>It's snake oil
Yeah I see that, and I also see stuff saying it's not, and neither of them are long-term trials.
I mean if I find a study that trialed for the magic 3 months they keep gabbing on about, and it shows fuck-all I'll probably just not bother with supplements at all. Sorry, but you're really not selling me on HRT unless it's literally over-the-counter stuff I can buy, and it won't give me 11 kinds of cancer in 20 something years.
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her pussy bald, call her caillou
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>>8339105
She talked for like 15 minutes about how much she liked guro while we were walking to the store, deleted the Skype message where she gave me her number, and lied about having friends over so I couldn't come back to her dorm because I was a disgusting loser no one wanted to be with
Though I don't blame her for that last part
Also she talked shit about me on /soc/ afterwards lol
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>>8339099
34 days
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>>8339105
cuz she likes me

idk.

i took really good care of her and now she's in love with me i think

like i mean she was head over heels hue for me like two days ago but we've been talking read
>>8337962

and idk shakira cuz she was my gf or something and we were im not gonna say flirting cuz lol but yea she was in the room while i was talking to another trans girl do the math

also i was enjoying chatting with you too much for it to be respectful in a way.
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>>8339074
I guess, I mean im not suprised seeing as my art sucks but it still stings.

>>8339081
Okay.
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A trap named LDR.
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>>8339123
damn she sounds like a bithc
what did she say on soc
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>>8339098
>that picture
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>>8339116
I wish I had a man to cling to
I miss my mean ex, he made me feel safe
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>>8337967
shhh am not a fucking slut ok i am a 21 year old man give me a break fuck off
>>8337980
blahblahblahblah she cares a lot for me i sold her a dream that i knew i couldn't keep

idk i feel fucked up for what i did to her cuz i know what she "needs" in a way

and idk

idkidkidkidk

things get easier as a transexual after like 1/12 years right?
>>
heyo swamp trannies what's up?
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>>8339131
She said how every guy she's hung out with in the area are a bunch of losers, "especially the last one" (which was me)
Another reason I have no self confidence :^)
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>>8339133
Embrace the dfc while dreaming of the mega milks.
>>
>>8339133
Learn to get off on being with girls whose chests are bigger than yours. A lot of girls in here do that when it comes to dicks anyway.
>>
>>8339128
Real life trap? How'd they get titties?

>>8339138
>things get easier as a transexual after like 1/12 years right?
See this is what I'm worried about. Don't wanna start HRT if it'll mess with my brain, moods, and leave me ultimately confused about whether it was a good decision. Just want a more feminine chest for cosplaying that isn't an awkward as fuck breast form, and that I can maybe fap to.
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>>8339139
I'm a rain forest tranny
>what's up?
sad :(
>>
i just saw some gaijin game label "wave", as in like a round of a group of enemies, as 波. Just put ラウンド、周波、or even the obvious ウエーブ

goddamn is it that hard to use an online dictionary
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>>8339139
What tranny am I if not a swamp one?

>>8339141
>tfw gonna need implants
wake me up
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>>8339141
>>8339146
i mean i am super into cowtits
but im still insecure about my dfc!!
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>>8339151
I know nothing about japanese, but maybe it's a character limit thing?
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>>8339148
why sad? :(

>>8339152
sad tranny
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>>8339156
>tfw will never have cowtits
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>>8339152
Man I have weird dreams
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>>8339158
>sad tranny
tfw sad tranny
>>
Who is worse?

Faye
Kayla
Chara
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>>8339156
Drink more milk!
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>>8339156
>i mean i am super into cowtits
>but im still insecure about my dfc!!
Would you like it if a cute girl with a perfect pair of cowtits pressed her massive bust against your washboard chest and lovingly teased you about it while nibbling on your ear before reassuring you that she loves you for who you are~?
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>>8339139
Tellin people to get out me swamp, like most swamp trannies
But for real tho I've been busy helping my parents with shit and I still haven't gone out shopping and I'm internally reee'ing about it
Also tried to stay away from here but I gave up lol
>>8339162
Faye
Definitely Faye
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>>8339160
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>>8339162
http://www.strawpoll.me/13036583
http://www.strawpoll.me/13036583
http://www.strawpoll.me/13036583
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>>8339164
does it really help????
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>>8339157
Maybe actually, because each other character is just one character
>>8339162
me
>>
fuck this is a nightmare
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>>8339166
H-holy
ZNA TAKE NOTES
omg
that sounds perfect
>>
>>8339162
at the moment Faye
Kayla is just being relatively normal in her relationship with her chaser bf.
Chara isnt here anymore.
>>
>>8339106
:(

it will get better amy

:(

it has too.
>>8339110
did this

now what
>>
>>8339158
Aw. I'm not really sad all the time, it's just that depression kicks in the ventposting reflex and I post more shit than I should :<

>>8339160
Was that your post? I fucking love that image.

>>8339162
Chara imo but I guess she's not here anymore so idk. I don't really mind the others.

>>8339174
What hapen anon?
>>
>>8339176
>>8339178
what about each of them being compared when at their worst?

What makes each a piece of shit?
>>
>>8339156
Your tits are the best tits. <3
>>8339175
I can't promise I'll get mega milks thoughhhh. The rest I'll do~.
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>>8339171
I dunno. Probably.

>>8339175
Lewd dfc Grace
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>>8339158
Just one of those days. Dysphoric and feeling like an ugly man again :/
pic not related
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>>8339177
2nd puberty is scary

1st puberty was nice and slow and depressive and stable
>>
>>8339178
>What hapen anon?
i just dont know how to transition or how to do lfie stuff in general
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>>8339181
why must you call me that
>>8339180
i dont really care what you actually haaaaaaaaaaaave
that fantasy sounds 10/10
>>
>>8339157
Japanese is really weird about the way it labels things, so I don't think 波 would be right in that context.
Like the word suu means smoking, as in a cigarette, but to say something is smoking, it's kemuru.

They used the right words for heat and armor though. The word heat has the samething where there's a word that describes the heat in the weather and then a word for the heat of anything else
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>>8339156
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>>8339179
What annoyed me the most about chara was that people kept so adamantly denying that she's a catfisher so I guess it's not directly about the person either. So glad that personality cult moved out of this thread and into r9k.

>>8339186
We're in the same boat mostly, what kinda transition or life stuff are you struggling with? Maybe me or someone else can help you out?
>>
>>8339181
:(
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>>8339147
hahahahahahhahaha

wow.

it's a bad life in a way ph@m

it aint easy.

they don't think it like it is, but it do.

>>8339162
chara can be mean when drake is online and even when he's not but i think she's kinda nice

faye just whants to be fucked really bad

kayla is boring
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>>8339190
Stop or you're going to unlock one of Grace's hidden desires.
>>
>>8339184
i enjoying being a man

i feel bad for others who have to go through this but there is money in being a transexual

but like everything.

it's just fucked up.

fuck the white man

kill the white man

disrespect the white man and if he ever speaks up kill the white man

enslave the white man and burn his history

manipulate the white man

i hate him

why's it so fucked up
>>
>>8339191
my problem is that i don't know how i'm supposed to go from who i am now to a girl
it feels like there's the impossible obstacle of me being too anxious to come out and transition to friends and everyone i know
i wish i could move somewhere else to start this but i don't know how possible it is
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>>8339176
>just here pondering why I didn't get any of the calls back I was promised
>seeing a future of homelessness
>trying not to kill or hurt myself

Welp
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>>8339187
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>>8339190
Mattie is best cow
>>8339198
What hidden desire!?
>>
>>8339118
Well why would you waste money on an unproven drug when you could just buy a proven drug?
HRT isn't dangerous, that's a gatekeeper myth. Lots of us self med and we're all fine.
I've given you my opinion, it's up to you if you want to continue makeing excuses.
>>8339123
Wow what a whacko
>>8339125
I live on another continent.....
>>8339162
Kayla doesn't do much anymore, Chara is psycho but doesn't come here much, Faye is just getting worse.
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>>8339175
I'm glad you like the idea, grace! You and Zna could have a lot of fun together playing with this fantasy! She could make you sit on the edge of the bed with your hands in your lap, as she straddles you and gives you a gentle kiss on the forehead. You're not allowed to move your hands, so touching her is off-limits. She'd tease you a little, grinding against you, before very slowly removing her top. After her nice, big breasts are on display, she'd push you so you're lying on your back. She'd tower over you and ask you what's better: big or small. She'd make you admit that her bigger breasts are better than yours, before taking your top off and trailing kissing along your tummy as she does it. Once your flat chest is on display, she'd pinch and nibble and lick and suck on your flat chest, once again making you admit that hers are better, before pressing her chest against yours and kissing you while you start to take off your panties as commanded.

[spoiler]uwu[/spoiler]
>>
>>8339202
Ah so you struggle with the social aspect. I'm sure most of the girls here went through stuff like that during their transition. My tip would be to practice girlmode stuff by yourself.
>>
>>8339203
>seeing a future of homelessness
I thought you just bought a house :^)
I thought you had hundreds of thousands of dollars :^)
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>>8339200
>kill the white man
Thats some interesting white guilt you got there senpai.
>>
>>8339208
i know and another obstacle is that i don't have money for girlmode stuff
like i'm just living with parents and leeching off them so i can't spend any money on clothes or makeup or anything
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>>8339140
lolololololol

she hangs out with a bunch of losers

but oh no she's not a loser herself

link that bitch here or better link me to her last thread i feel like online bullying some one
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>>8339210
beanboy is hispanic
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>>8339203
Why don't you invest your money in something while you still have it? I don't think you're employable.
>>8339209
Money runs out eventually.
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>>8339205

You should play Corruption of Champions. Lots of cowtits for you there.
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>>8339114
I'm happy to offer it for sure
I don't listen to a ton of DnB so i'm not sure how helpful it will be but I'm sure I'll enjoy it
>>
>>8339212
Ah that does suck. How much money do you have? There are some cheap sites like forever 21 and such and amazon has cheap makeup, though you might need to visit a shop in person for foundation to make sure you get the right color. Voice at least is completely free
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>>>/r9k/37251131
One last post for grace.
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>>8339207
Oh my gosh TEACH HER YOUR WAYS OMG THAT IS PERFECT AAAAAAAAA I WANT IT SO BAD
>>8339217
>implying i havent many times already
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>>8339206
hue we made plans to hang out when and if you got here

idk shakira she also was all like huehuehue now u have two women fighting over you i bet this makes you feel like a bigger ego or something

like i mean a little it did at the time ngl tbqff ph@myli but again.

you like on another fucking continent

and are addicted to coke

hue.
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>tfw got a japanese word right because i recalled it from an anime that said it once
although I don't watch anime often, don't ever let the white man tell you that you can't learn from it
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>>8339220
THAT IS AMAZING I AM DYING I NEED THIS IN MY LIFE
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>>8339214
It was 5 years ago lol
Hopefully she's grown up and not crazy anymore but I haven't talked to get since then oh well
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>>8339221
>>8339226
I'm glad you're enjoying this! I could write more stuff, long and in more detail, but I'm pretty sure that would come across as creepy.
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>>8339209
I put an offer for a house, they said they'd have my answer today, and having money and constantly spending it isn't going to last you until you're 75

But listen I realize suicidal ideation isn't logical
>>8339216
It's invested
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>>8339219
i don't have any money
can't get a job because i can't function in a workplace due to other mental health problems, this is the other life stuff that sucks
i'm seeing a psychiatrist soon and if i can't get any help then idk what i'm gonna do
>>
>>8339217
CoC is like AGP: the game

>>8339218
Dont hugbox me if its shit i wanna get better to impress you!

>>8339215
Suddenly that makes sense.
>>
>>8339216
>Money runs out eventually.
especially if it doesnt exist in the first place
>>
>>8339206
Alright, if I was to work on the assumption that I DID want HRT, as opposed to just small titties, and >>8339194 kind of pointing out there's a chance it'll go wrong as well as other people in this thread, I've got a really good reason.
I'm a student, and HRT isn't available on ebay but PM is, and cheaply. You find me a link to some HRT tablets or however it's taken that I can buy in an over the counter sense, I'll check the drug being used and weigh up the pros and cons, but until then I'd rather try something that's at least easy to get a hold of and to experiment with.

Also I heard HRT can fuck up your facial hair something awful, and that's probably more horrific for me.
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>>8339210
beanboy is Mexican

he is a Chicano who was born in the City of Los Angeles from two hard working illegal immigrants

Fuck You
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>>8339228
>as creepy
We're both creeps, then. Probably shouldn't keep writing it here, though.
Plus now that you're including Zna as the girl idk how she'd feel about this!!!
but i wanna hear moreeeee
uh
maybe i could add you on discord
>>
>>8339235
>beanboy is Mexican
if you were born in the US, shouldn't you be an American?
>>
>>8339235
>two hard working illegal immigrants
ICE has been contacted
>>
>>8339236
Post your Discord or Steam, cutie.
>>
>>8339227
do you of the enjoying of the smoking of the devil's herb?

"ganga"

oui?
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>>8339240
grace #3178
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>>8339231
I can almost guarantee that you're a better DJ than I am but don't worry I don't hugbox

Ooh, I never did ask how you felt about techno and house
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>>8339243
Send. uwu

What's with the face?
>>
>>8339236
Kinda weird but not enough for me to protest, since you *are* actually my girlfriend and all. Were it me with someone else that'd be 2weird.
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>>8339238
nu-uh fuck you yes you're right but fuck you anyway

motherfucker

the police keep circling me staring at what im typing

HELP IM BEING DISCRIMINATED AGAINST WE MISS YOU OBAMA FUCK YOU HILLARY

KILL TRUMP

MARRY MICHEAL

AND.

HE.

DID.

MOTHERFUCKERS.
>>
>>8339241
I've never done any drugs before desu. Always wanted to try weed or lsd. At least weed's legal here now
I'm applying for jobs so it's probably better not to risk failing a drug test
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>>8339247
Wellllllll as long as you're cool with it <3
>>8339246
I'm feeling all embarrassed and stuff but now we can keep it private!!
>>
>>8339223
What's wrong with being addicted to coke?
>>8339233
Jfc Ebay isn't the only online store.
https://www.inhousepharmacy.vu/
https://www.alldaychemist.com/
Buy estrofem or progynova and spironolactone or cypeterone acetate
>>
>grace ERPing with some dude while her girlfriend watches it happen
>>
>>8339256
>What's wrong with being addicted to coke?
there are probably long term health effects but u could OD and die
>>
>>8339256
>implying you could afford to be addicted to coke anyways
>>
>>8339258
Fuck, when you put it like that...
>>
>>8339258
grace is a known slut
what else is new?
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>>8339265
If you're not cool with it I'm not.
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>>8339265
dont be cucked
>>
>>8339244
>felt about techno
I dont listen to a lot of techno so idk really. I like some electo house, somtimes even dead maw five. https://youtu.be/EYMJizj3Qq8?t=1h43s

Also daft punk but thats cheating because everyone likes daft punk. When i was going to school one of my teachers was a semi famous house producer ,atleast for BC, and he would always show us how most of his tracks were laid out. And it made me realize how boring most of the drums are in house.

>>8339258
>>8339265

Cuck her life into pieces
>>
>>8339265
you're such a god damn cuck but not much you can do about it, grace is always whoring for attention here but that's just how she is
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>>8339256
Damn that shit's cheap. Whaddayaknow, I would have been cucking myself with expensive products.

So it's like, any combo of the 2?
estrofem & spironolactone
progynova & cypeterone acetate
Fuck, I'd be looking into a hell of a lot of potential fuckups if I mess the dosage combo on those. You have a personal story on how this is meant to work?
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>>8339265
>when you have to constantly watch a thread on a mongolian basket weaving forum to make sure your "gf" isnt cheating on you
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>>8339256
Coke can fuck up your heart permanently
>>
>>8339274
>>8339277
this lol
>having a gf from mtfg
>wanting a gf that will flirt with other people in the thread
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>>8339272
Yeah I used to like electro quite a bit.
Also yes, even dead mau fiveee

Wtf though house ain't boring, just requires a skilled DJ to build a groove. The range between good and shit house shows that I've seen is pretty high. Same with techno really.
And here I was all set to send you deep groovy stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s21soNog80c
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>>8339260
>u could OD and die
Sounds perfect
>>8339262
>implying I pay cash for it
>>8339275
I told you so
it depends on your baseline levels. spironolactone is the weakest anti androgen so start with that. Get a blood test in a few months, if T is high up dose or switch to cyproterone acetate. Estrofem and progynova it's a matter of personal choice they both do the same thing. I personally prefer estrofem but progynova is cheaper. browse /HRTgen/ here or r/transDIY/ over on redditif youw ant to know more
Good luck!
>>
>>8339284
>>8339284
>>8339284
>>8339284
>>8339284
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>>8339286
>And here I was all set to send you deep groovy stuff
Omg im sorry i didnt mean all house was boring i just meant like when he was showing how it was made it made me realize the drum pattern is so fucking simple.

I still like it tho pls dun hate me il listen to anything you post
>>
>>8339289
>Good luck!
Shit lad, I ain't ordering anything until I'm certain it won't fuck me up for life. Those warning labels aren't for show, and I'm only looking for better titties.
Still, you've made a good show of selling this on me, so I might check those two links though. Still not completely sold on something that's literally hormone replacement, but I'll give it the benefit of the doubt for research.
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>>8339256
hmmm.

it fuels bad people.

but others are gonna buy it anyway

but ur still helping fuel "crime"

hmmm.

.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

i have not learnededed enuf to properly form a solid, conchie opinion on this question you have asked me.
>>8339238
AND I'M MECIAN-AMERICAN MOTHERFUCKER

SO YR ONLY HALF RIGHT AND IM ONLY HALF RIGHT

gf's not texting me back...

think her phone died.

r-right?

but really that's what i think it is...

maybe...
>>
>>8339251
oh ok

how do you have platonic fun with people without weed

;/

answer: i don't.

huehuehueheueheuue

i knew it motherfucker

some one is fucking with my fb account i see you little dick bitch hahahaha i know you read my posts too and maybe you lurk /his/ but idk hahahahahahahaha

and it's more than one

but he doesnt do shit to me cuz i try not to let him

fuck you hahahaha

wew

but my gmail and other accounts are still conprimised WIZARDS OF 4CHAN HELP ME NOT BE HACKED DAMMIT I PAYED MY OP DELIVERIES ON TIME DAMMIT
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